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If this chart doesn't convince him nothing will.
This is actually a pretty good thread. I agree with Jaxvid that this is basically just a fan site. Yeah sometimes people come across as "racist" but if you don't think DWFs don't say racist things all the time youre crazy. At least in closed company. "That n****a can run" etc. Anyway, as discussed in all the Hitler threads, I think its important to keep this site accessible to normal fans and people that might casually stumble on this site and least have the slightest interest in race. I think the site does a good job of that by in large with a few exceptions.
No the posting guidelines here are sufficient in my opinion. However, the more people to visit this site and read a little the better. This site is a "gateway" into bigger and more important issues. At least it was for me.
If you're looking for some bs "statistical analysis" or magical "chart" then you are too stupid to form an independent thought anyway. Do you need a chart to get dressed in the morning or can you figure it out yourself?
This website is chuck full of stats but fools like you will dismiss every form statistical proof. After all it's not scientific or created in a lab with a control group right? Nor could it ever be.
I suppose outside the sports world the anti white agenda is just our imagination too. I suppose affirmative action is a myth, massive nonwhite immigration is good for us, and white people are all privileged. I'm sure you can find bs stats to prove it all. You could probably draw a chart that explains how the world is just a figment of our imagination. Good luck, buzz off and kiss my arse.
Hello...
Do I find it striking how few white players are in the NFL? Yeah, sort of. Do I think one possible cause of this is racist anti-white practices on the part of college and NFL coaches? Sure, it's possible. But do I think that is definitely the cause? Absolutely not...
olp said:Hello. I've checked out these boards from time to time and just recently registered. I'd like to tell you all how the average person probably views this site. You can delete my post or trash me or whatever you'd like, but if you want this website to succeed--and I know a lot of you do--you'd probably be wise to listen.
olp said:What hurts this site most of all, however, is the complete and utter lack of subjectivity among the posters. Black players are called ugly, the n-word is used, posters hope for black players to get injured. It is impossible for any outsider to not think the views of the posters as racist when the posters themselves act in such an absurd manner. An outsider comes to this site, reads that white athletes are being discriminated against, and then reads a post calling RGIII an ugly n*****. What do you expect that person to think? Obviously, they will think you have no good argument because even if black players were getting fair amounts of playing time, you'd still want to see them fail. It is absolutely inexcusable that the moderators do not clean up such posts if they expect this site to be seen as legitimate. Oh, and please stop calling players by such childish nicknames ("Crapernick," etc.); that does't help your cause either.
olp said:I don't care if I'm accepted here. I have no argument. I'm just here with an open mind. If this site doesn't convince me, then I don't believe what it has to say and just move along. The entire point of this site, on the other hand, is to convince people! That's why I wrote the post.
olp said:I have no opinion one way or the other. If you tell me and others to go away then you're missing an opportunity to further this website's mission.
Foobar75 said:We've had a lot solid new additions over the last couple of years, and they've fit right in; none of them came with the proclamation that we had to prove anything to them, they already had it figured out.
I can’t recall a single example of any “newbie” that started off being “skeptical,” only to be “convinced” of the unconcealed racism that whites endure in the realm of athletics (and everyday life in the Western world).
Yup,anyone pretending to be curious/skeptical is merely saying so to hide is true intentions of being an anti-white or a troll."Curious/Skeptics" lurk around...like you and I did.
The only reason someone joins(trolling aside) is because they are already convinced.
Yeah, except Tebow has gotten chances afterwards and has looked horrible. Also, leading a team to the playoffs means nothing. Mark Sanchez took his team to back-to-back AFC Championship games. I'm not saying you're wrong though; that was never the point. The point is that everyone cites random examples and I'm sure anyone could come up with random black players who inexplicably failed and the argument would get nowhere. I want actual hard facts, real studies, not some guy I've never met telling me Tebow is better than every coach seems to think he is.
I scratched the surface for you. If the following reading doesn't at least make you curious enough to dig deeper and decide for yourself one way or the other, then you are either too dumb to think for yourself(I don't think this is case), or you are a willing participant in your own discrimination.
I agree with part of what OP says. You can be "pro-white" without being "anti-black", which a lot of white separatists/nationalists don't seem to understand. When I read posts expressing joy over black players being injured, when I see people calling Russell Wilson "midget" or RGIII "RGScree" or whatever, I'm very disappointed. I think you can be pro-white without being anti-black. Someone pointed out that this is a fan site and sometimes people say some crazy things on fan sites. That's true. But imagine if you were at a Pats/Broncos game cheering for the Pats, and one of your fellow Pats fans starting cheering when a Broncos player didn't get up after the play. You'd find it distasteful and probably tell that person to shush up, because that's taking it a little too far. That's how I feel about this site sometimes. I'm certainly not going anywhere but I definitely feel like this site chases off potential new users because of some of the really awful things that get said here.
This, to my mind, is actually true of virtually ALL sites that are pro-white in nature or express a desire for whites to have a greater racial solidarity amongst ourselves, and is the main reason why white solidarity isn't actually a thing yet in polite society. Simple fact of the matter is that most white folks are good and decent people who don't believe in hating others for their race or being sexist, etc. But, that doesn't mean they wouldn't take part in a white separatist/nationalist group, IF that group could refrain from being hateful and full of anger at minorities all the time, because there's a difference between expressing solidarity and love for your fellow whites, and expressing anti-minority sentiments. You don't HAVE to do the second one just because you do the first, and if any pro-white group or pro-white site could consistently manage that I think they'd have a torrential rainstorm of white folks wanting to take part.
I agree with part of what OP says. You can be "pro-white" without being "anti-black", which a lot of white separatists/nationalists don't seem to understand. When I read posts expressing joy over black players being injured, when I see people calling Russell Wilson "midget" or RGIII "RGScree" or whatever, I'm very disappointed. I think you can be pro-white without being anti-black. Someone pointed out that this is a fan site and sometimes people say some crazy things on fan sites. That's true. But imagine if you were at a Pats/Broncos game cheering for the Pats, and one of your fellow Pats fans starting cheering when a Broncos player didn't get up after the play. You'd find it distasteful and probably tell that person to shush up, because that's taking it a little too far. That's how I feel about this site sometimes. I'm certainly not going anywhere but I definitely feel like this site chases off potential new users because of some of the really awful things that get said here.
This, to my mind, is actually true of virtually ALL sites that are pro-white in nature or express a desire for whites to have a greater racial solidarity amongst ourselves, and is the main reason why white solidarity isn't actually a thing yet in polite society. Simple fact of the matter is that most white folks are good and decent people who don't believe in hating others for their race or being sexist, etc. But, that doesn't mean they wouldn't take part in a white separatist/nationalist group, IF that group could refrain from being hateful and full of anger at minorities all the time, because there's a difference between expressing solidarity and love for your fellow whites, and expressing anti-minority sentiments. You don't HAVE to do the second one just because you do the first, and if any pro-white group or pro-white site could consistently manage that I think they'd have a torrential rainstorm of white folks wanting to take part.
For a stats and facts guy you sure do suck. Tebow has not started a single game since the playoff games he started. Here is a stat: he is one of only two quarterbacks in NFL history (the other being Bob Lee) that won a playoff game one year and then never started another game the rest of his career. So no, he didn't "look horrible afterwards." He just never got another chance to play.
Another FACT: leading a team to the playoffs does mean something. Especially if that team was the worst team in the NFL before Tebow took the reigns. Prior to Tebow the Broncos, in their previous 16 starts, had the worst record in the NFL - something like 2-14. They were 1-4 the season Tebow took over. Fact: Mark Sanchez continued to be the Jets starting QB years after he took them to the playoffs. Your comparison is idiotic, not factual, not hard data, and definitely not scientific. I need to make a bar graph that shows you what an idiot you are but I'm not sure I care to.