There's a good article on Tebow posted on the CF homepage, courtesy of the Stuff Black People Don't Like site.
Tim Tebow
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Guys,
The media build up on Tebows' long awaited start against Miami in 2 weeks is bordering on insane. As I said on the P. Hillis thread, this is going to be an almost impossible situation for a great white athlete. They're are saying he's going to have to win immediately and dwfs are going to buy into this or it's over for Tim Tebow. How crazy is this. Cam Newton is not winning and he's getting a pass.
Again, life is not fair, especially for "Christian White Athletes", Tebow will have to perform immediately or his rise will be short lived. I BELIEVE HE WILL!
Many of you may think I'm nuts, but I will pray for him before his game against Miami.
Whether you're religious or not, he will need our support and prayers, based on what I'm seeing already.
I hope all on CF will put Tim Tebow in your thoughts, building up to his first start in 2011!
Thanks.
The media build up on Tebows' long awaited start against Miami in 2 weeks is bordering on insane. As I said on the P. Hillis thread, this is going to be an almost impossible situation for a great white athlete. They're are saying he's going to have to win immediately and dwfs are going to buy into this or it's over for Tim Tebow. How crazy is this. Cam Newton is not winning and he's getting a pass.
Again, life is not fair, especially for "Christian White Athletes", Tebow will have to perform immediately or his rise will be short lived. I BELIEVE HE WILL!
Many of you may think I'm nuts, but I will pray for him before his game against Miami.
Whether you're religious or not, he will need our support and prayers, based on what I'm seeing already.
I hope all on CF will put Tim Tebow in your thoughts, building up to his first start in 2011!
Thanks.
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Ditka was criticized at the time for having Refrigerator Perry run the ball in from the 1-yard line late in the game instead of letting Walter Payton have the carry. This supposedly kept Payton, an all-time great, from scoring a Super Bowl TD.
In fact, earlier in the game, Payton had several carries inside the NE 5 yard line, but was stuffed each time. Ditka then went to other plays which scored.
Payton wound up with 61 yards in 22 carries and no TDs in Super Bowl XX. He is said to have been "hurt" by not having a big game, but I'm not sure he was as preoccupied with it as media types who think they know what blacks are "feeling."
Jimmy Chitwood
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this author thinks Tebow, or as he refers to him "the best fullback in the league," should play. the author, of course, doesn't think that Tebow is a good quarterback. but he figures, how much worse can things get?
talk about your back-handed endorsement.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Denver-Broncos-nothing-to-lose-by-starting-Tim-Tebow-101011
talk about your back-handed endorsement.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Denver-Broncos-nothing-to-lose-by-starting-Tim-Tebow-101011
TheAnimal
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I've interacted over the years with hundreds of fans from every NFL fanbase and bar none the Denver fans are the best NFL fanbase in America. In general they LOVE clean cut white players like a Tim Tebow, Eric Decker, Peyton Hillis or Brandon Stokley.
Wait and see if John Fox creates a blackout in Denver, that fanbase from Denver to Grand Junction on over to Salt Lake, Casper and Boise and in between will want his head served up on a platter.
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Great comments guys. Also an outstanding article on the front page. I can't wait to see Tebow light up the Dolphins though the air and ground. The guy is just a superstar and they know it. He scares so many people and the jealousy of his accomplishments is just insane. I just might have to get a jersey myself too just as another way to say screw the NFL and it's outlandish treatment of white athletes.
The Broncos are shopping Brandon Lloyd to any team that will trade a middle round draft pick for him. I'm trying to understand why they want to trade him. Lloyd is a journeyman who blew up into a star last year, leading the league in receiving yards. He's a free agent at the end of the season, but why ship him off now? He's the only proven quantity Denver has at receiver other than Eric Decker, who is still very early into his NFL career. Eddie Royal isn't very good, and Demaryius Thomas is always injured and has almost no regular season experience. You'd think they would want to keep Lloyd to help Tebow in the passing game, but it appears just the opposite is the case. Not a surprise at all, just another hurdle for Tim to overcome.
its possible Lloyd hates Tebow. He openly defended Orton. Skip Bayless even suggested he dropped the pass on the 2 pt conversion on purpose. He has also been whining about the decrease in targets under the new system so he is probably whining and causing locker room problems.
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Lloyd is definitely a head case, so it's very possible. If they do trade him Decker should move up to first on the depth chart, though Thomas with his "limitless athleticism" will likely be annointed Lloyd's successor at the top of the pecking order if he can actually stay healthy.
Nate Jackson, the former Denver WR turned beefed-up "TE" who was a victim of the Caste System and is now a writer, has a good view on the situation.
Former Broncos TE weighs in on Tim Tebow
Winning the starting quarterback position in the NFL used to be simple. Do you play well in games?
Not anymore. Now it's about practice. Many quarterbacks, including Kyle Orton, are great practice quarterbacks.
The practice quarterback is an executor of the coach's plan. The coach falls deeply in love with the plan executor and sees him as a guy who gets it, a guy who can operate a system, can punch the clock and calculate the percentages and work the formulas and the probabilities and spit out the right answer at the end of it.
This is what practice is: Every tiny step the quarterback takes is dissected, analyzed and critiqued; his cadence, his drop, his throwing motion.
Every play is scripted, both on offense and defense. The quarterback is never touched. In fact, if you touch the quarterback in practice, you're in trouble. There is no rush and the quarterback will never have to scramble for a first down.
There is no crowd, no electricity, no room for the time-stopping, magic football moment. Everything is laid out neatly in front of you. The defense is running preset cards and it will not stray from the plan on that card.
For a smart quarterback like Kyle Orton, practice is a walk in the park. He knows what is expected, knows what plays they're working on and knows what the coaches want it to look like.
He makes everything tight and clean. The coach rejoices, sighs, "OK, Kyle is our guy."
NFL coaches are, understandably, extremely paranoid and insecure. Nothing puts their worried minds at ease better than efficient practices.
Tim Tebow is the opposite of a practice player. He shines when men are trying to tackle him.
Live bullets, they say. When the bullets are live, all of the scripted, mathematical nonsense goes out the window and the actual game of football is played, by the players, in real time, without the hovering presence of coaches, scripts and probabilities.
Always playing the percentages will land you in a nice middle-class home with a Volvo. Broncos fans don't want a Volvo. They want a Mustang. Everyone does. Football, like life, is about taking chances and trusting your gut, not referring to the instruction manual and playing the percentages.
The last Broncos quarterback to take his team to the playoffs did it in three consecutive seasons, the only three seasons he was the full-time starter. That was Jake Plummer. Say what you will about his demeanor, but he brought the Broncos the most success they have had in the past 12 years. That's not for nothing. Jake played with his gut. He trusted his instinct. He followed his heart. And that got him benched. The Broncos haven't played a postseason game since.
There is a philosophical battle that takes place in the NFL concerning quarterbacks. Do you want Brett Favre or Peyton Manning? I suppose that's an appropriate question. But the Favres of the league are dwindling in favor of the well-polished, look-good-on-tape, mechanical, coachable, moldable, brain-washable young quarterback who will simply do as he is told.
Often, an offensive coach is only happy if the quarterback does exactly what he (the coach) would have done if he (the coach) were out there playing. But he isn't. And usually for good reason.
Certainly NFL coaches are extremely knowledgeable and are, through and through, football men, who can lead football players and teach them the technique and the concepts that are the cornerstones of quality football teams. But the rigidity in some coach's belief systems do not allow them to cede control to a quarterback who may stray away from "the plan," even if the player's instinct may be better than that plan.
Broncos coach John Fox is, from the looks of it, not that kind of coach. He is a defensive specialist. He knows that the unpredictable quarterbacks are the most difficult to prepare for. That's why Tebow is starting this week. Fox is ready to play jazz. And that is brave and admirable of him, and all too rare in the modern NFL.
Every analyst that has defiled Tebow's name on television is self-serving. He was a Heisman Trophy winner and two-time national champ at Florida, but he can't play because why? Because ESPN's Merril Hoge said so?
Most of the former players we see talking about football on television are too heavily invested in their own egos to provide anything resembling real insight. The truth is, nobody knows how good Tim Tebow will be. Not even Tim. Not even God. But God knows, we're all looking forward to finding out.
Nate Jackson, out of tiny Menlo College in Northern California, played tight end for the Broncos from 2003-2008. He played in 41 games, starting four. He caught 27 passes for 240 yards and two touchdowns in his NFL career. He's written inside-the-NFL pieces for The New York Times,Esquire.com and Deadspin.com. He's currently working on a book on the NFL from the perspective of an average player. His book, to be published by Harper Collins, is scheduled to be released in September 2012.
http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_19139125?source=commented-
Former Broncos TE weighs in on Tim Tebow
Winning the starting quarterback position in the NFL used to be simple. Do you play well in games?
Not anymore. Now it's about practice. Many quarterbacks, including Kyle Orton, are great practice quarterbacks.
The practice quarterback is an executor of the coach's plan. The coach falls deeply in love with the plan executor and sees him as a guy who gets it, a guy who can operate a system, can punch the clock and calculate the percentages and work the formulas and the probabilities and spit out the right answer at the end of it.
This is what practice is: Every tiny step the quarterback takes is dissected, analyzed and critiqued; his cadence, his drop, his throwing motion.
Every play is scripted, both on offense and defense. The quarterback is never touched. In fact, if you touch the quarterback in practice, you're in trouble. There is no rush and the quarterback will never have to scramble for a first down.
There is no crowd, no electricity, no room for the time-stopping, magic football moment. Everything is laid out neatly in front of you. The defense is running preset cards and it will not stray from the plan on that card.
For a smart quarterback like Kyle Orton, practice is a walk in the park. He knows what is expected, knows what plays they're working on and knows what the coaches want it to look like.
He makes everything tight and clean. The coach rejoices, sighs, "OK, Kyle is our guy."
NFL coaches are, understandably, extremely paranoid and insecure. Nothing puts their worried minds at ease better than efficient practices.
Tim Tebow is the opposite of a practice player. He shines when men are trying to tackle him.
Live bullets, they say. When the bullets are live, all of the scripted, mathematical nonsense goes out the window and the actual game of football is played, by the players, in real time, without the hovering presence of coaches, scripts and probabilities.
Always playing the percentages will land you in a nice middle-class home with a Volvo. Broncos fans don't want a Volvo. They want a Mustang. Everyone does. Football, like life, is about taking chances and trusting your gut, not referring to the instruction manual and playing the percentages.
The last Broncos quarterback to take his team to the playoffs did it in three consecutive seasons, the only three seasons he was the full-time starter. That was Jake Plummer. Say what you will about his demeanor, but he brought the Broncos the most success they have had in the past 12 years. That's not for nothing. Jake played with his gut. He trusted his instinct. He followed his heart. And that got him benched. The Broncos haven't played a postseason game since.
There is a philosophical battle that takes place in the NFL concerning quarterbacks. Do you want Brett Favre or Peyton Manning? I suppose that's an appropriate question. But the Favres of the league are dwindling in favor of the well-polished, look-good-on-tape, mechanical, coachable, moldable, brain-washable young quarterback who will simply do as he is told.
Often, an offensive coach is only happy if the quarterback does exactly what he (the coach) would have done if he (the coach) were out there playing. But he isn't. And usually for good reason.
Certainly NFL coaches are extremely knowledgeable and are, through and through, football men, who can lead football players and teach them the technique and the concepts that are the cornerstones of quality football teams. But the rigidity in some coach's belief systems do not allow them to cede control to a quarterback who may stray away from "the plan," even if the player's instinct may be better than that plan.
Broncos coach John Fox is, from the looks of it, not that kind of coach. He is a defensive specialist. He knows that the unpredictable quarterbacks are the most difficult to prepare for. That's why Tebow is starting this week. Fox is ready to play jazz. And that is brave and admirable of him, and all too rare in the modern NFL.
Every analyst that has defiled Tebow's name on television is self-serving. He was a Heisman Trophy winner and two-time national champ at Florida, but he can't play because why? Because ESPN's Merril Hoge said so?
Most of the former players we see talking about football on television are too heavily invested in their own egos to provide anything resembling real insight. The truth is, nobody knows how good Tim Tebow will be. Not even Tim. Not even God. But God knows, we're all looking forward to finding out.
Nate Jackson, out of tiny Menlo College in Northern California, played tight end for the Broncos from 2003-2008. He played in 41 games, starting four. He caught 27 passes for 240 yards and two touchdowns in his NFL career. He's written inside-the-NFL pieces for The New York Times,Esquire.com and Deadspin.com. He's currently working on a book on the NFL from the perspective of an average player. His book, to be published by Harper Collins, is scheduled to be released in September 2012.
http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_19139125?source=commented-
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Jackson's writing style reminds me of Pat Toomay, the 70s DE. At one point, Toomay played for 4 teams in four years. The fourth was Al Davis' Raiders, for whom he finished out his career.
Nowadays, Toomay would have been cut and waived out of the league for writing things the coaches and GMs didn't like.
Nowadays, Toomay would have been cut and waived out of the league for writing things the coaches and GMs didn't like.
FootballDad
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The hourlong Tim Tebow special is on ESPN2 right now.
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Just caught the tail end of it, enough to see the "Nazi gathering" at the Tebow home. Seriously though, I can see why that particular scene would seem so threatening to the establishment. There was Tim himself, surrounded by his family and friends, in a diversity free environment. I saw his parents, agent, some young couples, at least one baby in a woman's arm who appeared to be Tim's sister-in-law, plus some more young and old adults, good and decent people who'd all come together to celebrate this joyous occasion. There was no race mixing, no wiggers or mudsharks anywhere in sight, no one dressed and acting like clowns, just some white people having a good time. Oh the horror!
Thrashen
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The most powerful scene featured in ESPN’s “Tim Tebow: Everything In Between†is the one in which Tebow is visiting sick children in the hospital. He holds the hands of the children as well as their parents, uttering a potent and articulate prayer for God to help them in their healing. It is, bar none, the most beautiful piece of cinema ever broadcasted in the filthy history of that repugnant network.
At 24 years old, Tim is already the most influential man to ever play professional football. I hope the Broncos win the remainder of their games.
By the way, here is the lovely family you were referring to…
whiteathlete33
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The most powerful scene featured in ESPN’s “Tim Tebow: Everything In Between†is the one in which Tebow is visiting sick children in the hospital. He holds the hands of the children as well as their parents, uttering a potent and articulate prayer for God to help them in their healing. It is, bar none, the most beautiful piece of cinema ever broadcasted in the filthy history of that repugnant network.
At 24 years old, Tim is already the most influential man to ever play professional football. I hope the Broncos win the remainder of their games.
By the way, here is the lovely family you were referring to…
Keep up the great work, Thrashen. I wish we had more racially aware and intelligent whites like you on the planet.
Thrashen
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Thanks man, it’s much appreciated.
I found the video of Tim Tebow praying alongside the sick children. It’s difficult to imagine such a kindhearted moment was actually permitted to be aired on ESPN. The portion I’m referring to begins at 2:47 seconds…
[video=youtube;Lnvcs15xAbI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnvcs15xAbI&feature=related[/video]
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Thanks for posting that picture, Thrashen.
BTW, here are a couple of links to two pro-Tebow articles that came out today. Has the MSM turned away from their anti-Tebow stance? Time will tell, of course, and a lot will also depend on how much success he has.
From ESPN: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page...os-best-only-choice-quarterback-espn-magazine
From Foxsports: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...ff-to-succeed-in-NFL-believe-it-or-not-101911
Both are good pieces, but I like the one by the female writer from Foxsports. It's written in the form of a letter addressed to Jason Whitlock, who recently wrote a column mocking and bashing Tebow. Whitlock has been known to touch subjects no other sportswriter dare talk about because he's black, however, some of his recent pro-black/anti-white articles leave more to be desired.
In any event, this Sunday will be huge and I'm sure all eyes at CF will be on MIA. Best of luck to Tebow in his first start of 2011.
BTW, here are a couple of links to two pro-Tebow articles that came out today. Has the MSM turned away from their anti-Tebow stance? Time will tell, of course, and a lot will also depend on how much success he has.
From ESPN: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page...os-best-only-choice-quarterback-espn-magazine
From Foxsports: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...ff-to-succeed-in-NFL-believe-it-or-not-101911
Both are good pieces, but I like the one by the female writer from Foxsports. It's written in the form of a letter addressed to Jason Whitlock, who recently wrote a column mocking and bashing Tebow. Whitlock has been known to touch subjects no other sportswriter dare talk about because he's black, however, some of his recent pro-black/anti-white articles leave more to be desired.
In any event, this Sunday will be huge and I'm sure all eyes at CF will be on MIA. Best of luck to Tebow in his first start of 2011.
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That article by the fox writer was good. It was nice for her to mention how Christians and "White Dudes" are allowed to be criticized.
For all of Tebow's supporters he has twice as many detractors both in the media and DWFs. I bet he will be openly mocked by all a majority of those idiot talking heads on all the NFL pregame shows.
I can't wait to see him play, I wish him the best and believe he will not disappoint.
For all of Tebow's supporters he has twice as many detractors both in the media and DWFs. I bet he will be openly mocked by all a majority of those idiot talking heads on all the NFL pregame shows.
I can't wait to see him play, I wish him the best and believe he will not disappoint.
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Let's hope Tebow plays well today. I have been looking forward to this since he was named starting QB 2 weeks ago.
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I read somewhere that Lebron James was tweeting pro Tim Tebow remarks today. I recall him doing this a couple of weeks ago as well. I wonder if this is a P.R stunt from the NBA. They have completely lost a large chunk of their fan base. (Mainly the type of fans that would root for Tim Tebow.)
FootballDad
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No. Athletes in general (affletes?) are for the most part, pro-Tebow. There have been numerous tweets in favor of Tebow, just like there are numerous affletic tweets in support of Jimmer Fredette. The adversary here is the establishment, who unwittingly, like a knee-jerk reaction, reject white athletes trespassing in "black" territory. For the record, I thought that Tebow's performance was pedestian at best. His end-of-game comeback was phenomenal, but his first three-quarters-plus were wince-inducing.
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FootballDad.
Could the first three quarters play selection have hurt Tebow?
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Could the first three quarters play selection have hurt Tebow?
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