The Trump Era Begins

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Yes, interesting counterpoint there, Free. But like he says at the end, if Trump continues doing what he did then all bets are off - because all it takes is one of those missiles to hit a barracks full of Russians and then Russian missiles sink the ship that fired it...and then keep those Vera Lynn records handy, if you know what I mean.

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Yes, interesting counterpoint there, Free. But like he says at the end, if Trump continues doing what he did then all bets are off - because all it takes is one of those missiles to hit a barracks full of Russians and then Russian missiles sink the ship that fired it...and then keep those Vera Lynn records handy, if you know what I mean.

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Odd that this movie/music were on your mind. Mine also.
 

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Prior to, and at about 2012, Assad, and the civil organization of Syria, were in no danger of uprising or upheaval. Tolerance was mostly practiced by all who lived there, women clothed themselves mostly as they wished, there was a large Christain minority, and the Muslims that did profess were mostly of the Shia sect or of no sect (not the psycho-Sunni sect). With their vast highway system, Syrians were freer to travel about than the swaggering military encampment known to the world as Israel. There was no notable strife in Syria before 2012. Syrian terrain is many things, of which are mountains, rivers, lakes, and good arable land. An abundant land, the Syrian economy was sufficient and developing. Israel has plenty of salt and sand, and not enough water so the Israelis took the entire Sea of Galilee for themselves, by force of course, while the Syrians stood back and let them for want of equal force (see 1974 ceasefire lines). Though they had all of the Sea of Galilee, the Israelis have been lowering its water level, and are now in want of more water, and more land.

I know people that went to Syria before 2012, and testimony can be had online, to confirm those few simple facts. The same can be done for Israel, and I know many who have gone to Israel.

Connected to this story is Ukraine, North of the Black Sea. Russia supplies Europe with natural gas via a pipeline through Ukraine. The Ukrainian government, at present, does not want to pay for Russian gas nor accept transit fees for the line. This Ukrainian government, tethered to International Jewish Central Bank Rule, is opposing anything Russians propose. Consequently, Russians are seeking to run a line along the bottom of the Black Sea to Bulgaria and onward to the rest of Europe. This pipeline is known as the "South Stream".

Syria is important to this gas story because natural gas has been found within Qatar, S. Arabia, and perhaps off the Israeli coast. These countries, and possibly others, independently or collaboratively, want to run a gas line through Syria and Turkey to supply Europe. Part of the Turkish line has already been built. Assad, and the Syrian government, are allied with Russia and do not accept any offer to allow pipelines through their territory.

Out of nowhere, in the mostly peaceful country of Syria, Assad was accused of using lethal chemical weapons against the people of Syria back in 2012. Within weeks, a hoard of evil called "ISIS" was invented and began their spree of torture and killing in Syria. Were it not for Russia, and the very firm DO NOT TOUCH that the Russians made, the U.S. armed forces would have shattered Syria in the same way that U.S. armed forces liberated Libya.

Who are these men calling themselves ISIS? Who supplies them? What do they want? For more than four years the Syrian army has been fighting this evil and trying to liberate and protect Syrians. The Syrian soldiers risk wicked torture and death if captured by ISIS evil, and they do so just to help their fellow man. So many Syrian men have deserted their homeland and fled to Europe while only the real men remain. Europe's open door policy has diminished the number of able men to fight ISIS evil. Worse, these same Syrian soldiers face attacks from Israel under the pretext that the Syrian soldiers are arming and training Palestinians to make war against Israel. They also fight Kurdish men who want to separate part of Syria, to form a Kurdistan, and they face U.S. forces who were "accidentally", and now intentionally, bombing them. These Syrian soldiers are as brave and loyal to their women and children as any man on earth ever was.

So, why would the same Syrian soldiers kill the very people they risk everything to protect?


Thank you Ambrose. Your posts are as good as any that I've ever read. This really helps some of us to understand the bigger picture. I'm worried about all of this is going to play out. The last thing we need is to head into World War III.
 

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Paul Craig Robert's dour assessment of our current situation. This was before the missile strikes on Syria:
 

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Many on here have already thrown the towel on Trump. No he is not perfect, far from it. He says some stupid crap on Twitter sometimes that makes even me cringe. I think he should stop using that pile of crap social media platform completely. Yet he has by far been the best president in many areas. He is trying to get jobs back into this country and is at least trying to tackle the huge immigration problem. I mean, what president has done even a tenth of this in our lifetimes? Let us wait and see before calling him a "sellout."
 

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Many on here have already thrown the towel on Trump. No he is not perfect, far from it. He says some stupid crap on Twitter sometimes that makes even me cringe. I think he should stop using that pile of crap social media platform completely. Yet he has by far been the best president in many areas. He is trying to get jobs back into this country and is at least trying to tackle the huge immigration problem. I mean, what president has done even a tenth of this in our lifetimes? Let us wait and see before calling him a "sellout."


As crazy as this world and country is getting, a partial sell out would be an improvement. He needs to stay firm on imigration and improving the economy. I really hope he lowers the corporate tax rate to bring more jobs back to america and keep more of them here in the first place. Going to a 3 level tax bracket would most likely be better for us too or at least I hope so. All we can do is hope for the best. The last thing anyone other than the globalists want is WW3.
 

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Many on here have already thrown the towel on Trump. No he is not perfect, far from it. He says some stupid crap on Twitter sometimes that makes even me cringe. I think he should stop using that pile of crap social media platform completely. Yet he has by far been the best president in many areas. He is trying to get jobs back into this country and is at least trying to tackle the huge immigration problem. I mean, what president has done even a tenth of this in our lifetimes? Let us wait and see before calling him a "sellout."
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I haven't thrown in the towel on Trump, but he deserves the criticism he's getting when it comes to foreign policy. Being so right-on in his critique of the American Empire and the shameful way trillions of dollars has been wasted endlessly bombing Arab countries, and then turn around and do the same thing has rightfully enraged many of his supporters. And other than Bannon, Sessions and Ben Carson, the people he's surrounded himself with is not reassuring. Bannon has called his son-in-law Jared Kushner and another Jewish advisor "West Wing Democrats," and they're well on the way to purging Bannon.

It's too early to draw definitive conclusions but right now it doesn't look promising. It's fair to say that very few of Trump's supporters thought they were voting for a "centrist." That's what Jeb Bush was supposed to be.


Trump plans centrist push and Priebus is on board

Steve Bannon, the engine and soul of President Trump's hard-edged approach to his first months in office, is increasingly isolated and will be forced out unless he can adopt a more cooperative approach, a top source told me.

On both style and substance, Bannon got crosswise with Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump, who are pushing for a more competence- and results-driven focus for the West Wing.

In their view, Bannon is too inclined to want to burn things down and blow things up. They want a more open process driven by the interests of the president, not ideology.

A senior official said Chief of Staff Reince Priebus is "with the program" of a more inclusive style, and will stay. Insiders have been feverishly discussing possible replacements and Trump considered a change, but the official said: "Reince is staying."

The latest from the "Game of Thrones," on location in Mar-a-Lago this weekend:

The changing culture: Here are the two crucial words to understand the outgoing style and incoming style: We're told that rather than "nationalist" vs. "globalist," think of "combat" vs. "collaboration."

How the Bannon bubble burst: The last straw for his internal critics: news stories portraying Bannon as the keeper of the Trump flame, in opposition to Jared, Ivanka and economic adviser Gary Cohn — all New Yorkers.

Playing defense: Bannon's allies both inside and outside the White House are scrambling to try to save his job, Axios' Jonathan Swan reports. They argue that getting rid of Bannon will cost Trump among his "America First" constituency, and that Trump's key to victory is to keep his base motivated.


What's next: This weekend, Bannon, Kushner and Priebus are having discussions about whether the marriage can be saved: "Either Steve becomes a team player and gets along with people, or he'll be gone."

https://www.axios.com/how-steve-bannon-lost-his-mojo-2350891180.html
 

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You may want to take a few minutes and read through Ann Coulter's tweets and retweets from the last couple of days. She pulls no punches and is very critical with the direction Trump is going and it's not just about the Syrian situation.

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter


Also, here's another disheartening article from a few days ago that I haven't seen reported anywhere else:

BORDER AGENTS UPSET BY TRUMP PICK OF OBAMA HOLDOVER
'All of the things we fought against happened under this guy's watch'

Published: 3 days ago

(BREITBART) — The Trump Administration rewarded Border Patrol agents for their support of Trump as president by picking an Obama holdover whom they despise to be their boss.

Trump chose the Obama-hired Customs and Border deputy who was tasked with enacting Obama’s open border vision to lead the parent agency of Border Patrol, Customs and Border Protection (CBP). All of the Border Patrol agents who spoke with Breitbart Texas Managing Director Brandon Darby from all nine Southwest border sectors expressed feeling betrayed or otherwise hurt by Trump choosing a man who did so much damage to them to be their new boss.

Many expressed regret for having supported Trump in the first place
and for having believed he would actually listen to them and care about what they experienced while risking their lives for other Americans.


The feelings of betrayal come just days after the announcement of Obama-hire Kevin McAleenan as the next Commissioner of CBP. While the organization that represents the agents, the National Border Patrol Council (NBPC) has not spoken about the nomination, Darby spoke about how the line agents feel let down. His comments were made on the Texas radio show The Pursuit of Happiness.


It's not a coincidence that all of this started happening right after Jared and Ivanka become members of his administation.
 

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Thank you Ambrose. Your posts are as good as any that I've ever read. This really helps some of us to understand the bigger picture. I'm worried about all of this is going to play out. The last thing we need is to head into World War III.

Thanks for reading Lightning.
 

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You may want to take a few minutes and read through Ann Coulter's tweets and retweets from the last couple of days. She pulls no punches and is very critical with the direction Trump is going and it's not just about the Syrian situation.

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter


Also, here's another disheartening article from a few days ago that I haven't seen reported anywhere else:

BORDER AGENTS UPSET BY TRUMP PICK OF OBAMA HOLDOVER
'All of the things we fought against happened under this guy's watch'

Published: 3 days ago

(BREITBART) — The Trump Administration rewarded Border Patrol agents for their support of Trump as president by picking an Obama holdover whom they despise to be their boss.

Trump chose the Obama-hired Customs and Border deputy who was tasked with enacting Obama’s open border vision to lead the parent agency of Border Patrol, Customs and Border Protection (CBP). All of the Border Patrol agents who spoke with Breitbart Texas Managing Director Brandon Darby from all nine Southwest border sectors expressed feeling betrayed or otherwise hurt by Trump choosing a man who did so much damage to them to be their new boss.

Many expressed regret for having supported Trump in the first place
and for having believed he would actually listen to them and care about what they experienced while risking their lives for other Americans.


The feelings of betrayal come just days after the announcement of Obama-hire Kevin McAleenan as the next Commissioner of CBP. While the organization that represents the agents, the National Border Patrol Council (NBPC) has not spoken about the nomination, Darby spoke about how the line agents feel let down. His comments were made on the Texas radio show The Pursuit of Happiness.


It's not a coincidence that all of this started happening right after Jared and Ivanka become members of his administation.

"Imagine what we can accomplish in the first 100 days."
 

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"Imagine what we can accomplish in the first 100 days."


And meanwhile the dregs of the third world still come flooding in. Trump pretended to put forth an ineffectual bill to stop them and that was absurdly blocked by two com lib a-holes dressed up in judge suits and so that's the end of that?


Who is Bringing in These Disease Riddled Savages and Why

Rex Tillerson’s U.S Department of State!...


http://www.rense.com/general96/DtRH44ermg.pdf



Trump doesn't deserve to be given the benefit of any doubt at this point. Let him do something to deserve it, but instead I just hear more noises from his cabinet about how this cowardly sneak attack on behalf of ISIS Israeli Secret Intelligence Service was just the start.


Pentagon Gave Israel Front Row Seats to US Missile Strikes in Syria
Israel's intelligence minister said Tel Aviv was given box seats for Trump's missile attack, which "restored" US prestige in Middle East

http://russia-insider.com/en/israel...ke-restores-us-leadership-middle-east/ri19494




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And meanwhile the dregs of the third world still come flooding in. Trump pretended to put forth an ineffectual bill to stop them and that was absurdly blocked by two com lib a-holes dressed up in judge suits and so that's the end of that?


Who is Bringing in These Disease Riddled Savages and Why

Rex Tillerson’s U.S Department of State!...


http://www.rense.com/general96/DtRH44ermg.pdf



Trump doesn't deserve to be given the benefit of any doubt at this point. Let him do something to deserve it, but instead I just hear more noises from his cabinet about how this cowardly sneak attack on behalf of ISIS Israeli Secret Intelligence Service was just the start.


Pentagon Gave Israel Front Row Seats to US Missile Strikes in Syria
Israel's intelligence minister said Tel Aviv was given box seats for Trump's missile attack, which "restored" US prestige in Middle East

http://russia-insider.com/en/israel...ke-restores-us-leadership-middle-east/ri19494




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So...WW I guess You are on the train to smash Trumpy. I am not surprised here on CF. But at least consider one year in, before your disparage him. Really? it's like not even 100 days in. Before you guys pile on. WTF!!!
 

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The past few days there's been terrorist attacks in Sweden and now this morning, in Egypt, by ISIS or ISIS sympathizers.

So far I don't see Trump commenting or tweeting on either, especially the one in Sweden a couple of days ago. Just a month or so ago he tweeted on the situation in Sweden and was ridiculed on it by the MSM and the Swedish govt. Well, now that an actual terror attack did occur that killed or badly injured many, he's silent on it...at least on Twitter. Has he even said anything on it or offered any condolences? His disposition has seemed to change quickly in the past week.

Stefan Molyneux tweet: You saw the bodies in Syria. Did you see the bodies in Sweden? That’s all you need to know.

Molyneux's twitter feed is another excellent source of information, along with Coulter's. Paul Joseph Watson's is great too. All highly active and informative.
 

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It is somewhat positive that according to some accounts the reason for Trumps displeasure with Bannon was more personal, petty and non-political. I hope this is so.
 

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So...WW I guess You are on the train to smash Trumpy. I am not surprised here on CF. But at least consider one year in, before your disparage him. Really? it's like not even 100 days in. Before you guys pile on. WTF!!!



At this rate we might not last a year. Reports say he's now got the navy heading towards North Korea.

Trump's son in law and senior advisor Jared Kushner's connection with Giorgy Schwartz alias George Soros, the founder and financeer of Black Lives Matter and many other terrorist outfits and financial supporter of the immigration invasion of all the white western countries: This from the Forward, formerly known as The Jewish Daily Forward!

Soros Rips ‘Would-Be Dictator’ Trump, Lends Money to His In-Laws, the Kushners

George Soros has been a fierce critic of President Donald Trump, denouncing him at a recent conference in Switzerland as a “would-be dictator.” But that doesn’t mean he’s above doing business with the president’s in-laws — the billionaire investor is said to have given $250 million in credit to Jared Kushner and Joshua Kushner’s real estate startup Cadre.

“Soros has had a long and productive relationship with the Kushner family,” an unnamed source told the Real Deal, which broke the story on Friday.

Read more: http://forward.com/fast-forward/361...rump-lends-money-to-his-in-laws-the-kushners/
 

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I'm wondering how to rank the sabre rattling over North Korea. Is this something the Neocons approve of as well? Wouldn't there be the danger of the US and Trump administration getting too focused on North Korea and then not being as likely to intervene in the Middle East on Israel's behalf?
 

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The Wolf man's gallows humor-(Vera Lynn's " The White Cliffs Of Dover" and "at this rate we may not last the year" does get a chuckle out of me. But he touches on a scary truth that both Russia and North Korea present unimaginable horrors if things go amiss. I don't think they will but one can't underplay the danger either.
 

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Now the rumors on Twitter are that Gen. Neocon McMasters(replaced Flynn)wants 150k troops for a ground assault in Syria. Just because we threw our support behind Trump does not mean we have to blindly follow him into another war, he deserves every ounce of criticism he's getting, It seems he's duped us all. No deportations or a wall and he's ushering us into WW3 2 months into his presidency, and we're supposed to wait and see?! When the MSM is praising him for his latest move it's time to worry.
 

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War is peace, peace is war.
 

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Trump has done a compete 180 since he pushed Bannon to the side and given in to his son-in-law. Kushner is a democratic Jew and all of the sudden he is pulling the strings.
 

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Now the rumors on Twitter are that Gen. Neocon McMasters(replaced Flynn)wants 150k troops for a ground assault in Syria. Just because we threw our support behind Trump does not mean we have to blindly follow him into another war, he deserves every ounce of criticism he's getting, It seems he's duped us all. No deportations or a wall and he's ushering us into WW3 2 months into his presidency, and we're supposed to wait and see?! When the MSM is praising him for his latest move it's time to worry.

A major invasion of Syria is complete insanity.
 
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