The Confederate Flag

[Thrashen]

This thread reminded me of something that occurred this past summer. I attended a “demolition derby” at a well-known fair in rural Pennsylvania. The derby is one of the most competitive in the state and every seat was “sold out” in the packed arena. There were probably 2,000-3,000 in attendance (plus hundreds standing outside watching), with probably 99.9% of those in attendance being white.

Anyway, one driver created an orange car to resemble the “General Lee” from “Dukes of Hazzard” fame. On the roof, he’d painted a giant Confederate Flag and had many other Rebel flags festooning the car. As he was introduced in front of the grandstand, he reached his arm out of the driver’s side door and kept pointing to the flag on the roof…and the crowd went insane cheering for him. He did this repeatedly after winning various heats (which elicited raucous applause) and eventually made it to the final round, which he also won. After winning #1 place in the derby, he exited the car, climbed onto the roof, hoisted the trophy, and pointed to the flag once more, which caused the crowd to erupt and give the guy a standing ovation that seemed to never end. It was awesome.

It would be one thing if this was occurring somewhere in the southern U.S., but this was a good half-day drive from the Mason-Dixon line, in the heart of “Union” territory during the Civil War. It goes to show that American whites, who are forced to behave and tow the (Marxist) party line for their entire lives, secretly adore white “rebels” and would likely respond well to pro-white politics, so long as the presenter was unapologetic, bold, brash, and charismatic enough.

When was the last time that any white American, of any level of fame, uttered anything pro-white in a public place? Former Pantera frontman, Phil Anselmo, gave a “white pride” speech back in 1995, which prompted a great reaction from the fans…

[video=youtube;cxQk3DC3gL0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxQk3DC3gL0[/video]

Around rural PA, the “Rebel” flag is everywhere, especially on cars and trucks. Since it makes little sense to fly a flag from a foreign land from several states away, with no connection whatsoever to their locality, I take it to mean that they are disillusioned with modern America and wish that the Confederacy had instead won the war. Every guy in PA I’ve ever met who flies the “stars and bars” holds a degree of racial consciousness well above the national average.

I’ve always been an “SS” and “Swastika” kind of guy myself, but I wouldn’t mind donning the Rebel flag on my car or truck, as the message is quite clear. Plus, I find it to be far more visually pleasing than the corporate “Stars and Stripes”...

 

[jaxvid]

This thread reminded me of something that occurred this past summer. I attended a “demolition derby†at a well-known fair in rural Pennsylvania. The derby is one of the most competitive in the state and every seat was “sold out†in the packed arena. There were probably 2,000-3,000 in attendance (plus hundreds standing outside watching), with probably 99.9% of those in attendance being white.

Anyway, one driver created an orange car to resemble the “General Lee†from “Dukes of Hazzard†fame. On the roof, he’d painted a giant Confederate Flag and had many other Rebel flags festooning the car. As he was introduced in front of the grandstand, he reached his arm out of the driver’s side door and kept pointing to the flag on the roof…and the crowd went insane cheering for him. He did this repeatedly after winning various heats (which elicited raucous applause) and eventually made it to the final round, which he also won. After winning #1 place in the derby, he exited the car, climbed onto the roof, hoisted the trophy, and pointed to the flag once more, which caused the crowd to erupt and give the guy a standing ovation that seemed to never end. It was awesome.

It would be one thing if this was occurring somewhere in the southern U.S., but this was a good half-day drive from the Mason-Dixon line, in the heart of “Union†territory during the Civil War. It goes to show that American whites, who are forced to behave and tow the (Marxist) party line for their entire lives, secretly adore white “rebels†and would likely respond well to pro-white politics, so long as the presenter was unapologetic, bold, brash, and charismatic enough.

When was the last time that any white American, of any level of fame, uttered anything pro-white in a public place? Former Pantera frontman, Phil Anselmo, gave a “white pride†speech back in 1995, which prompted a great reaction from the fans…

[video=youtube;cxQk3DC3gL0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxQk3DC3gL0[/video]

Around rural PA, the “Rebel†flag is everywhere, especially on cars and trucks. Since it makes little sense to fly a flag from a foreign land from several states away, with no connection whatsoever to their locality, I take it to mean that they are disillusioned with modern America and wish that the Confederacy had instead won the war. Every guy in PA I’ve ever met who flies the “stars and bars†holds a degree of racial consciousness well above the national average.

I’ve always been an “SS†and “Swastika†kind of guy myself, but I wouldn’t mind donning the Rebel flag on my car or truck, as the message is quite clear. Plus, I find it to be far more visually pleasing than the corporate “Stars and Stripesâ€...

That's awesome. It's clear the confederate flag is becoming a backlash symbol used by those people that wish to express a white consciousness even if not understood clearly.

My son and his friends have some T-shirts and belt buckles with the flag on it, and these are kids that don't even listen to country music. They are doing it to flash a big middle finger to the current anti-white, anti-male, social agenda. It sends a message to other kids, and blacks, that they aren't buying what society is selling. I think they are becoming the cool kids on this issue. What could be more uncool and boring then the ideas coming from teachers, ghetto losers and old white liberals.

I sense a tipping point in the average Joes attitudes. The "conservative-right" type of people are getting constantly educated by more and more radical information on the internet. Hardened attitudes by some mainline conservative mouthpieces like Limbaugh and Coulter, heck Savage has a drive time radio show in my market, is beginning to take it's toll. I was talking to a typical conservative couple I know yesterday, Romney/McCain voters, and the subject turned to the police issues around the country. These people were pissed. I mean really pissed.

We know how easy it is to have this kind of paradigm hijacked--the Tea Party is exhibit A. But I think we are headed for interesting times. The pendulum swings.

 

[Freethinker]

It would be one thing if this was occurring somewhere in the southern U.S., but this was a good half-day drive from the Mason-Dixon line, in the heart of “Unionâ€￾ territory during the Civil War. It goes to show that American whites, who are forced to behave and tow the (Marxist) party line for their entire lives, secretly adore white “rebelsâ€￾ and would likely respond well to pro-white politics, so long as the presenter was unapologetic, bold, brash, and charismatic enough.

When was the last time that any white American, of any level of fame, uttered anything pro-white in a public place? Former Pantera frontman, Phil Anselmo, gave a “white prideâ€￾ speech back in 1995, which prompted a great reaction from the fans…

Good observation. This energy needs to be harnessed.

I remember watching that Phil Anselmo video years ago on CF. It got me pumped up then and I feel the same excitement now. Looks like it's gonna be a metal music day!

 

[Matra2]

The Confederate Battle Flag fight was probably lost when Southerners threw in their lot with the Republicans. In 2000 Texas Governor George W Bush removed confederate plaques from the lobby of the Texas Supreme Court because they were offensive to minorities. Yet instead of holding it against Dubya Southerners put him in the White House and spent the next 8 years worshipping him.

The Georgia flag dispute in the early 2000s was important. Even after the election of Sonny Perdue, partly due to the flag controversy, the old Battle Flag was not restored. The Stars & Bars is less well known - Hollywood hasn't gone after it, yet - so it is less controversial than the Confederate Battle Flag:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Georgia_(U.S._state)

Unless Southerners are willing to separate from the US the next generation of white Southerners will look at all Southern symbols the way the average white today looks at the KKK. Unfortunately, Southerners seem to me - someone observing from abroad - to be the most diehard American patriots. For instance they are heavily overrepresented in the Union, oops, make that the US army. I doubt secession will ever become an issue in that part of the US.

 

[Average American]

Phil Anselmo.. Looks like it's gonna be a metal music day!

FreeT, I'm with ya.. I also liked the stuff Anselmo did w/his side band Down, even more than Pantera. Down released a killer album in the mid-90s 'NOLA'. If you haven't heard it, and liked Pantera, check it out..

Per this thread, Anselmo had another side project, Superjoint Ritual, where he utilized the Confederate battle flag in their t-shirts and album cover for 'Use Once and Destroy'. Anselmo's clarified in the subsequent years after his Montreal speech that he's not a bigot, just pointing out our societal double standard on ethnic pride. And I remember he's been candid & real about his drink & drug abuse.

 

[Average American]

A moment of levity, from the culture clash over Confederate flags, (unauthorized Rebel flag raised over a New Hampshire senior's center): http://www.vnews.com/home/16404211-95/confederate-flag-flown-in-Lebanon

On cue, an indignant, low-information critic of the Confederacy is quoted, "This is 2015, not 1815 !"
(Not sure there were many Confederate flags flying 45 years prior to secession.)

 

[davidholly]

Some guy in my town flies a pretty large confederate flag in his yard. It's the actual flag of the confederacy though, not the battle flag. So the professional complainers being history challenged don't even realize he's flying a confederate flag.

 

[Average American]

Some guy in my town flies a pretty large confederate flag in his yard. It's the actual flag of the confederacy though, not the battle flag. So the professional complainers don't even realize he's flying a confederate flag.

Yeah, reminds me of the alterations made to Georgia's state flag. You remember, about 15 years ago, GA dropped the battle flag from their state flag design.. to appease the NAACP & other assorted cultural Marxists. Georgia then proceeded to replicate the First National Confederate flag as the base of their new design.
The cultural Marxists, and other low-information critics of the Confederacy, didn't realize they had been had.. because they've only been programmed to emotionally resent the battle flag. Most have probably never objectively researched the Confederacy, & it's various symbols.. so they were unaware of GA's flag bait-and-switch.


The 13-star First National, replicated in the current GA flag

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Yeah, reminds me of the alterations made to Georgia's state flag. You remember, about 15 years ago, GA dropped the battle flag from their state flag design.. to appease the NAACP & other assorted cultural Marxists. Georgia then proceeded to replicate the First National Confederate flag as the base of their new design.
The cultural Marxists, and other low-information critics of the Confederacy, didn't realize they had been had.. because they've only been programmed to emotionally resent the battle flag. Most have probably never objectively researched the Confederacy, & it's various symbols.. so they were unaware of GA's flag bait-and-switch.

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The 13-star First National, replicated in the current GA flag

Good post, Average American! Often times the stars and bars is unrecognized while the battle flag is reviled. I like the current Georgia flag, but I like the 1956-2000 flag much better, since the cultural Marxists hate it.

 

[Average American]

An NYPD officer, never meanin' no harm, drives to work in his contemporary replica of the General Lee.

A local, with no life, proceeds to sic the local news on him..

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/04...o-cops-general-lee-car-with-confederate-flag/

 

[Nelson]

Anyway, one driver created an orange car to resemble the “General Lee†from “Dukes of Hazzard†fame. On the roof, he’d painted a giant Confederate Flag and had many other Rebel flags festooning the car. As he was introduced in front of the grandstand, he reached his arm out of the driver’s side door and kept pointing to the flag on the roof…and the crowd went insane cheering for him. He did this repeatedly after winning various heats (which elicited raucous applause) and eventually made it to the final round, which he also won. After winning #1 place in the derby, he exited the car, climbed onto the roof, hoisted the trophy, and pointed to the flag once more, which caused the crowd to erupt and give the guy a standing ovation that seemed to never end. It was awesome.

It would be one thing if this was occurring somewhere in the southern U.S., but this was a good half-day drive from the Mason-Dixon line, in the heart of “Union†territory during the Civil War. It goes to show that American whites, who are forced to behave and tow the (Marxist) party line for their entire lives, secretly adore white “rebels†and would likely respond well to pro-white politics, so long as the presenter was unapologetic, bold, brash, and charismatic enough.

I have to tell you, Thrashen, that that is one of the best CBF stories I can remember in a long, long, time -- and CBF stories are my babies. An incredibly meaningful scene and you've written it up to a perfection! I can't say I'm "pumped up" by Mr. Anselmo at all, however. "If you're a gentleman...." so why is every other word "****ing" with him? just thinking out loud here. Proud to say I have no "****ing" idea who he is other than this.

THANKS for the Pennsylvania news. Please update it often -- start a thread or even a blog on it, will you?

 

[Nelson]

PS I see the site censors the F-word and that's FINE with me.

 

[Thrashen]

That's awesome. It's clear the confederate flag is becoming a backlash symbol used by those people that wish to express a white consciousness even if not understood clearly.

My son and his friends have some T-shirts and belt buckles with the flag on it, and these are kids that don't even listen to country music. They are doing it to flash a big middle finger to the current anti-white, anti-male, social agenda. It sends a message to other kids, and blacks, that they aren't buying what society is selling. I think they are becoming the cool kids on this issue. What could be more uncool and boring then the ideas coming from teachers, ghetto losers and old white liberals.

I sense a tipping point in the average Joes attitudes. The "conservative-right" type of people are getting constantly educated by more and more radical information on the internet. Hardened attitudes by some mainline conservative mouthpieces like Limbaugh and Coulter, heck Savage has a drive time radio show in my market, is beginning to take it's toll. I was talking to a typical conservative couple I know yesterday, Romney/McCain voters, and the subject turned to the police issues around the country. These people were pissed. I mean really pissed.

We know how easy it is to have this kind of paradigm hijacked--the Tea Party is exhibit A. But I think we are headed for interesting times. The pendulum swings.

Some excellent observations here, Jax, especially about how “uncool and boring†it is for any man with attached testicles to bolster the lame, PC ideas espoused by the government, the dinosaur media, the “education†system, big corporations, Marxists, Communists, Socialists, Jews, Zionists, “feminists,†and the homosexual agenda.

Just a few weeks ago, the dinosaur Z0G-Media were lamenting “controversy†that arose when a group a white kids from a suburban area of Denver was “caught†posing with guns alongside the Stars and Bars…

CAPTION: The Cool Kids

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/06/confederate-flag-prom-photo_n_7219802.html

Naturally, after having their lives ruined and becoming race pariahs, several of the kids apologized and begged for forgiveness.

What doesn’t the media understand? You can only push a group of people so far until they find their spine and lash out at their oppressors. Just this past weekend, we attended three different Memorial Day parties and the sheer number of Rebel Flags on vehicles and clothing was fascinating. My friend from work rented a tent and hosted a huge party on Sunday that was attended by no less than 100 people. I was playing football with a guy (he was 26) that I just met that day and he was wearing a sleeveless Rebel Flag t-shirt. We got to talking and I told him I loved his shirt and that I was a White Supremacist / White Nationalist / White Separatist / Racialist / Neo-Nazi. I asked why he had the shirt and he said something like: “because I’m from the country and I don’t feel like America represents me anyone.†He said nothing racial/racist, so of course I hit all the “high points†and wholeheartedly agreed that we have absolutely no representation.

 

[Average American]

Thrashen, yeah.. the kids' prom photo is'nt a real controversy. It's a media witch hunt, utilized to uphold their panopticon of political correctness. I believe the Marxist-media seek & select these accounts to humiliate @ large, everyone who they feel is not in compliance w/their cultural-Marxist worldview. They estimate if they can publicly humiliate random Rebel flag fliers, it will cow thousands of others into taking down their flags, & surrendering their values. Which unfortunately may be effective..

These kids didn't commit a crime, they weren't engaged in a political activity.. Just young ppl having fun, and reflecting who they are. They were used as sacrificial lambs by bigots in the media, who want all opposition to their Marxist ideology erased. Media recently did the same thing (harassing), a private citizen in MI, who was legally flying a Battle Flag on his private property.. other than a potential home owners association, who cares (?) Just another case of media bullying the public they're supposed to be serving.
(Deo Vindice)

 

[Colonel_Reb]

(Deo Vindice)

God will vindicate for sure brother!

 

[Average American]

Battle Flags come to the 'hood.

http://www.metro.us/philadelphia/co...n-camden-for-music-fest/zsJofa---haUhDwrEzTs/

A country music festival brings Battle Flag waving patrons to the shell-shocked, Beirut-esque toilet of Camden, New Jersey. On cue, a community activist criticizes the city's guests, and irrelevantly opines on economic injustices, etc. Honest lot attendant defends the concert goers, probably understands that any tourists to Camden are a good thing.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

Battle Flags come to the 'hood.

http://www.metro.us/philadelphia/co...n-camden-for-music-fest/zsJofa---haUhDwrEzTs/

A country music festival brings Battle Flag waving patrons to the shell-shocked, Beirut-esque toilet of Camden, New Jersey. On cue, a community activist criticizes the city's guests, and irrelevantly opines on economic injustices, etc. Honest lot attendant defends the concert goers, probably understands that any tourists to Camden are a good thing.

LOL! No doubt that 100% of Camden is like most "Amerikon'd" sheeple...totally ignorant of the origin of the CSA battle flag...which is based on the cross of St.Andrew & represents a Godly stand against (unlawful) tyranny.

 

[Average American]

Capitulating to anti-Southern (and in some cases, additionally anti-White) bigots.. eBay, Amazon, Sears, and WalMart are pulling their Confederate items/sales listings.
The anti-White bigots in our cultural-Marxist media, have spent the last several days conflating everyone who possesses Confederate merchandise, w/the acts, and ideology, of a lone mass murderer. The media Marxists are bigoted Fascists who want to erase everything they deem objectionable.

I don't want to drive traffic to some of the news sites who are cheerfully reporting on this development, but the reports are easily found. It's sick, the politically correct panopticon that is being constructed in America. The American flag will be marked for extinction (& eventually criminalization) next, but thankfully there is some outspoken resistance to that happening. The fate of the US flag hinges on a defense of the Confederate & Gadsden flags first tho (imo).

 

[jaydeedubya]

Capitulating to anti-Southern (and in some cases, additionally anti-White) bigots.. eBay, Amazon, Sears, and WalMart are pulling their Confederate items/sales listings.
The anti-White bigots in our cultural-Marxist media, have spent the last several days conflating everyone who possesses Confederate merchandise, w/the acts, and ideology, of a lone mass murderer. The media Marxists are bigoted Fascists who want to erase everything they deem objectionable.

I don't want to drive traffic to some of the news sites who are cheerfully reporting on this development, but the reports are easily found. It's sick, the politically correct panopticon that is being constructed in America. The American flag will be marked for extinction (& eventually criminalization) next, but thankfully there is some outspoken resistance to that happening. The fate of the US flag hinges on a defense of the Confederate & Gadsden flags first tho (imo).

I agree entirely! It's just a crying shame the that political correctness is tearing down one tradition after another right before our eyes. But at least there is still one good old boy who hasn't been neutered by the media/Hollywood/academia crowd. And that would be Ben 'Cooter' Jones of Dukes of Hazzard fame! He's defending the Southern flag and all things Dixie! He says confederate items will always be for sale at his stores 'Cooters Place'. God bless Cooter!

 

[Quiet Speed]

Beauvoir director: Confederate flag means so many things, 'just like a cross does'

By MARY PEREZ


TIM ISBELL/SUN HERALD Since momentum has grown to remove the Confederate battleflag in South Carolina and on the Mississippi flag, Greg Stewart, executive director at Beauvoir has been interviewed by national and international media. TIM ISBELL — SUN HERALD |Buy Photo


BILOXI -- Greg Stewart led the charge in 2001 for a referendum to let Mississippi voters decide whether to keep Mississippi's flag. Now as executive director of Beauvoir, the last home of Jefferson Davis, he is defending the Confederate Battle Flag as a symbol of the state's history and heritage.

He calls the attacks against the flag since nine people were murdered in a South Carolina church "a perfect storm," and said the outrage against the Battle Flag is being driven by emotion and political agendas.

The alleged killer was "obviously a lone wolf," he said, adding the media and the early presidential primary in South Carolina are behind the flag controversy.

The flag means so many different things to people, "just like a cross does," he said. The rush to condemn the flag should be disturbing to the public, said Stewart, a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans. Instead of a knee-jerk reaction to an event, he said changing a state flag should receive thorough debate.

Brad DeCorte visited Beauvoir on Wednesday for the history. Originally from Michigan, he now lives in Florida and said the Confederate Battle Flag does offend him, especially on a government property. "Changing state flags is a whole different issue," he said.

Stewart said there will never be a time when the Battle Flag doesn't fly at Beauvoir. "I am firm on that." Take it down, he said, and Beauvoir would have the same appeal to tourists as Grass Lawn, a Gulfport landmark that was rebuilt after Hurricane Katrina to host weddings and events.

Beauvoir flies a huge Battle Flag from the front porch of Beauvoir three times a year -- Fall Muster, Jefferson Davis' birthday and Confederate Memorial Day. The practice causes controversy in the community, where some people see it as a racial symbol, but Stewart said good news or bad news on the front of the newspaper translates to more visitors.

"What I did see was an uptick in the gate," he said.

Many black visitors come to the home and Jefferson Davis Library each year, he said, and Beauvoir just hosted a wedding. The groom was black and his ushers were dressed in white tuxedos. The bride was white and her bridesmaids were dressed in black dresses, he said. A black minister preaches at Beauvoir every Sunday and Stewart said visitors to Beauvoir often attend the service.

At every Sons of Confederacy meeting, held at Beauvoir, the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag is followed by the pledge to the Confederate flag, in what Stewart says is paying homage to ancestors.

He said the Battle Flag was misused by the Ku Klux Klan, but he said the group used and is still using the American flag.

Take away the Confederate flag, and "is your United States flag next?" he said.

Read more here: http://www.sunherald.com/2015/06/24...r-defends-confederate.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy

http://www.beauvoir.org/

 

[jaxvid]

I'm sure Jefferson Davis would be heartened to know that a black man was married to a white woman at his last home. Great way to celebrate his memory. Really nothing else needs to be said when guys like this are guarding the flame.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

I have nothing but utter disdain & defiance for the vile cultural Marxists & their globalist masters. When it comes to honoring TRUE patriots & their legacy, I'll remain unrepentant, unapologetic & unreconstructed. Sic semper tyrannis!

 

[Leonardfan]

Once the cultural Marxists succeed in getting rid of the confederate flag will they then stfu about slavery?

 

[celticdb15]

Once the cultural Marxists succeed in getting rid of the confederate flag will they then stfu about slavery?

No and black on black crime will not decrease. Truly do live in a circus.

 

[werewolf]

RACIST HATE GROUP MAPS CONFEDERATE MONUMENTS TO BE TORN DOWN

http://dailykenn.blogspot.com/2015/06/racist-hate-group-maps-confederate.html