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one very positive accent in this Super Bowl was the superb play of Chase Blackburn, who was out of work few months ago! good drive stopping tackles and a crucial interception (although Gronk probably would have had it if healthy). Congrats to him!

You know its funny......having watched BSPN this morning for awhile, I think I have seen the Welker drop replayed 50 times.....I have yet to see the Blackburn interception or hear any of the talking heads mention that this was a crucial play......no post game interviews of Blackburn. The outpouring of hate toward Welker this morning is beyond anything I have ever seen in sports.
 

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Even with the loss, this season has added to Brady's legacy. Only John Elway has started five Super Bowls at quarterback, winning two. The three Super Bowls that Brady won were all decided by 3 points. The two he lost have been decided by 3 and 4 points. All five games have come down to a couple of plays that could turn the game either way. The disappointing part for me is that the Patriots had far better regular seasons than the Giants both years.

On a side issue, I don't like that Belichik always defers when he wins the toss. The Patriots defense is so bad that it seems like the Patriots barely get the ball in the first quarter. You have to go with your strength when you start the game. I'm pretty sure that no team that wins the toss against the Patriots gives the ball to Brady. Apparently, Belichik has always deferred since Brady was hurt after electing to receive in the first game of the 2008-09 season.
 
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Eli's taken so much undeserved crap over the years. All the vicious jokes about him being "inbred," the early proclamations that he was a "bust," criticism from DWFs and the media that he isn't a leader, his own teammates periodically saying things about him, most notably Tiki Barber but others as well. I'm really happy for him even though I was rooting big time for the Patriots to win. He prevailed over all the other big-name quarterbacks for the second time in five seasons. Enough can't be said about how well he played all season and through the playoffs. He truly carried the Giants on his back all the way to the championship.

Absolutely. A few years ago Eli was far more despised by the DWFs than Tom Brady. They eagerly proclaimed him to be be a bust.
 
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You know its funny......having watched BSPN this morning for awhile, I think I have seen the Welker drop replayed 50 times.....I have yet to see the Blackburn interception or hear any of the talking heads mention that this was a crucial play......no post game interviews of Blackburn. The outpouring of hate toward Welker this morning is beyond anything I have ever seen in sports.

Regarding Welker's drop, a great receiver has to make that catch with the Super Bowl on the line.
 

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Well, it seems as if the card-carrying members of DWF-Nation received a mightly gift, as the most “diverse” offensive football team in the NFL over the past 25 years was rendered completely ineffective, humiliated, and thoroughly thwarted by a more Africanized foe. I can only fathom the sense of passionate jubilation that most American whites experienced whilst watching Brady, Welker, Gronkowski, Woodhead, Edelman, Light, Mankins, Connolly, Vollmer, Solder, Ninkovich and Fletcher walking off the field, downtrodden, as confetti littered Lucas Oil Stadium. Yes, in this perfect moment, their white-loathing, indoctrinated, inoculated, inebriated glee must’ve reached a “red-line” of race-trading merriment.

For instance…a guy at my company was very disappointed when the Patriots barely defeated the Ravens two weeks ago. When I told him that I was rooting for the Patriots in said game, he asked: “How could you possibly like New England!?” I said: “Because they have a white quarterback, a white offensive line, two white receivers, a white tight end who just had the best season in NFL history, a white running back, and a white cornerback.” He was overwhelmed with confusion. I suppose that a lifetime of cradle-to-grave anti-whiteness can subpoena such tribal languor. Last night, during the “big game,” he must’ve been more content than a pig wallowing naked in its own filth. No, wait; pigs are useful and highly intelligent creatures.

Regrettably, aside from Woodhead’s touchdown catch and several other clutch receptions, the game did little to help our cause or display or athletes’ talents to a national audience...

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CAPTION: Woodhead Scores in Patriot Loss

Welker played well but had a tremendously critical drop (albeit on a difficult pass) in the second-to-last drive in the 4[SUP]th[/SUP] quarter that could’ve won the game. Edelman didn’t play on offense or defense; I guess Belichick was worried about him getting “burned” (sort of like the Patriots’ black defenders). Gronkowski was obviously still injured, and had only 3 targets. The Patriots’ line was above average, allowing only a few coverage sacks. Ninkovich played well, but had a critical offsides penalty. Fletcher played exactly one snap on defense. Brady completed loads of short passes, but obviously wasn’t too sharp in the 4[SUP]th[/SUP] quarter. The Giants splendidly-dull offense, led by the undeniably-clutch Eli “Silver Spoon” Manning, utterly dominated T.O.P., a trademark of seemingly every Patriot loss with Brady at the helm over the past 10 years.

Oh well, at least one of our playoff teams (Patriots, Packers, and Texans) was still standing for the final act…otherwise, we would’ve had no reason to watch. Do you all remember how incredibly close we came to a Ravens-49ers Super Bowl? Therefore, congratulations to New England for helping to expose the Caste System this season through the utilization of white athletes at various skill positions. It’s unfortunate that they lost, but the alternatives could’ve been so much worse.

The Super Bowl commercials, surprisingly, didn’t feature too much smut, or too many half-naked women, or too many effeminate white males, or too many “stupid white guys” getting hurt and humiliated, or too many testicle-kicking, female chauvinist “misandry babes.” If not for the shameless celebrity camoes, they didn’t seem too different from normal TV commercials. That’s a good thing, I think.

The halftime demonstration, featuring “Granny the Lip-Syncing Sex-Icon Extraordinaire,” flawlessly fit the new prototype of artless American mass-entertainment. Bright lights, explosions, Zulu dance numbers, colossal TV-screens, perpetual costume changes, a stage with hydraulic lifts that is constantly transforming, a laughable mixture of old / new pop “artists,” a myriad of annoyingly-interconnected old / new pop “songs,” a cast of literally thousands of backup performers, and the ubiquitous placement of blacks. I noticed that the old “Bag-O-Bones” did manage to slip in her (it’s) trademark “crotch flashing” routine on several occasions [yawns deeply]. The whole “performance” reeked of an elderly, leather-faced has-been trying far too hard to prove she’s still relevant. And by “relevant,” I’m referring to the Mass-Existance sense of the word...

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CAPTION: Shock is Dead

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CAPTION: Ma-Donning Make-Up for the Soul

Then, another utterly contrived “Super Bowl controversy” occurred when black British rapper, “MIA,” showed her middle finger during the show. What a “bad ass.”

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CAPTION: Pre-Planned Flip-Off

All in all, not the greatest night for white athletes or white American culture...but it could've seen so much worse.
 
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Regarding Welker's drop, a great receiver has to make that catch with the Super Bowl on the line.

I don't understand your logic. Does that mean that Welker is no longer a great receiver for not making a leaping twisting fingertip catch? Does it mean that Brady is no longer a "great" QB because he didn't hit a wide open Welker instride for a long gain/possible TD? Is a career worth of great play, including in Super Bowl's past negated because of one non-great play. That's a pretty high bar. You sound like everyother MSM commentary on the play.
 

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One thing about the Welker drop discussion from what I've read on yahoo is what makes it such a big deal is that Welker did it. The implication is that he is in essence such a great receiver that thats what makes it a big deal. At least that could be one interpretation you could get.
Also, lets not forget, Pats were almost not in this game at all, as their victory over Baltimore was a close run thing.
 

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I don't understand your logic. Does that mean that Welker is no longer a great receiver for not making a leaping twisting fingertip catch? Does it mean that Brady is no longer a "great" QB because he didn't hit a wide open Welker instride for a long gain/possible TD? Is a career worth of great play, including in Super Bowl's past negated because of one non-great play. That's a pretty high bar. You sound like everyother MSM commentary on the play.



I don't think that's what sports historian is saying. WW is still a great receiver, but we can't have it both ways. We want our guys in there , but when they fail to make great catches, it should be open for discussion.

There's been many fine catches in the history of the Super Bowl, Clark, Biletnikoff, Swann, etc. WW failed to make what would have been a great catch period.

Obviously, the MSM is making too much into that one play. There's atleast a half a dozen other reasons for the Patriots losing the game, but this takes nothing away from Brady or Welker's greatness!
 

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I don't think that's what sports historian is saying. WW is still a great receiver, but we can't have it both ways. We want our guys in there , but when they fail to make great catches, it should be open for discussion.

There's been many fine catches in the history of the Super Bowl, Clark, Biletnikoff, Swann, etc. WW failed to make what would have been a great catch period.

Obviously, the MSM is making too much into that one play. There's atleast a half a dozen other reasons for the Patriots losing the game, but this takes nothing away from Brady or Welker's greatness!

Let's not forget that both Hernandez and Branch dropped crucial passes that would have given the Patriots an opportunity to win the game. Bottom linem the whole team played poorly. I was hoping for a Patriots win but somehow the Giants managed to win.
 

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I don't think that's what sports historian is saying. WW is still a great receiver, but we can't have it both ways. We want our guys in there , but when they fail to make great catches, it should be open for discussion.

There's been many fine catches in the history of the Super Bowl, Clark, Biletnikoff, Swann, etc. WW failed to make what would have been a great catch period.

Obviously, the MSM is making too much into that one play. There's atleast a half a dozen other reasons for the Patriots losing the game, but this takes nothing away from Brady or Welker's greatness!
Yes but pretty much all of those catches were because of knowing they would have to make an adjustment in the air due to where the defenders were around them, and they were aware would have to go up and get it because it would be thrown to only where they could get it, sometimes having to make acrobatic moves to stay in bounds for a 1st down or a td. That was a blown coverage, despite what Mangini says about Phillips, he was not close enough to make a play on the ball, Welker was running full speed straight ahead and turned his body to the right expecting it to be there in stride only to see it going the complete opposite way having to adjust in milliseconds which is why he had to spin around, he jumped too soon and his hands mainly only touched the nose of the ball, he is capable of catching it but its very hard and I doubt he would have gotten many props for it.

Id say most receivers don't make that catch, even most of the top ones would probably miss it some of the time under the same circumstances. The average receiver wouldn't even try to adjust like that to get their hands on it. If he doesn't make the adjustment his hands never get on the ball and everyone sees it for what it is, a ball thrown behind him. Maybe even some of today's so called elite receivers don't even try to catch it.

The game wasn't even on the line, they were up by 2 with 4 minutes left, it was 2nd and 11 because Lawfirm lost a yard. Then Branch dropped the next pass. The reason why you see Wilfork put his hands on his head because he knew it would be on him and the defense to try and stop the Giants from scoring, and the defense would have to win with the game on the line.



question is, Is Welker known for making acrobatic catches? I see him as a receiving runningback, who mostly gets extended handoffs. He has mostly been a yac guy.

I wonder what is wrong with Brady though, his wife was made fun of because she sent out an email to friends saying pray for Tom, saying she feels he really needs "our prayer, support and love at this time" which was somehow changed by the media saying that she wanted friends to pray that he win the Superbowl. He played like crap in the Ravens game. Granted there were a bunch of drops in this game but he didn't look like himself, some say his left shoulder has been bothering him for a while and it was obviously hurt even more in the game.

and I can't understand what the big deal is about the Manningham catch. It was good but not spectacular.
 
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I don't think that's what sports historian is saying. WW is still a great receiver, but we can't have it both ways. We want our guys in there , but when they fail to make great catches, it should be open for discussion.

There's been many fine catches in the history of the Super Bowl, Clark, Biletnikoff, Swann, etc. WW failed to make what would have been a great catch period.

Obviously, the MSM is making too much into that one play. There's atleast a half a dozen other reasons for the Patriots losing the game, but this takes nothing away from Brady or Welker's greatness!

Thanks for the comment. That's what I meant.

It should also be pointed out that the Patriots lost this game in the FIRST quarter. The safety put them in a hole and they did nothing on offense in the first quarter, falling behind 9-0.
 

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Thanks for the comment. That's what I meant.

It should also be pointed out that the Patriots lost this game in the FIRST quarter. The safety put them in a hole and they did nothing on offense in the first quarter, falling behind 9-0.

Agreed. The Pats have the ability to dominate from the whistle against good teams. Their shaky start, like in the playoff game aginst the Jets, led to their demise. The visable nervousness of the Pats in the postseason sharply contrasts with the loose, ****y style they exhibit in the regular season, where they often go for and make 4th and 3s.

Their defense holds teams to a decent amount of points, but can NEVER be relied on to stop a team when it really matters. They also give up a ton of yards and keep the Pats offense on the bench. Here's hoping Bilichik drafts some white studs like Harrison Smith or Jared Crick and they can make another run at it.
 

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A nice article called "Biggest play of Super Bowl XLVI belongs to unlikely hero Blackburn".

http://www.cbssports.com/print/nfl/...-bowl-xlvi-belongs-to-unlikely-hero-blackburn

All in all, I thought the game was entertaining and White athletes for both teams made many plays. The most positive aspect was seeing a White running back star in a Super Bowl. When was the last time that was seen (not counting Kuhn last year)? John Riggins?
 

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I don't think that's what sports historian is saying. WW is still a great receiver, but we can't have it both ways. We want our guys in there , but when they fail to make great catches, it should be open for discussion.

I know what he is saying. And it sounds like what all the other MSM outlets are saying. Welker cost the Pats the game by not making a great catch. I disagree.

I also don't understand your: "We want our guys in there , but when they fail to make great catches, it should be open for discussion" comment? So then we're supposed to be like the caste clowns and dump on our guys when they don't make "routine" tremendous plays when the vast majority of black receivers that make more money and get more positive publicity drop pass after pass without nary a media comment? I call BS on that and I think Welker should be defended by us on this one as it was a tough catch and I would feel the same about it even if it was a black receiver.
 

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Wes Welker's drop has to be the most shown and discussed "drop" that did not occur on a third down or TD throw. If Deion Branch makes the catch on the next play (third down I believe) then the drive stays alive and WWs drop would have been significantly less important to the outcome of the game.
 

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I know what he is saying. And it sounds like what all the other MSM outlets are saying. Welker cost the Pats the game by not making a great catch. I disagree.

I also don't understand your: "We want our guys in there , but when they fail to make great catches, it should be open for discussion" comment? So then we're supposed to be like the caste clowns and dump on our guys when they don't make "routine" tremendous plays when the vast majority of black receivers that make more money and get more positive publicity drop pass after pass without nary a media comment? I call BS on that and I think Welker should be defended by us on this one as it was a tough catch and I would feel the same about it even if it was a black receiver.


I am defending Welker. It was a very difficult catch to make. 9 out 10, he makes it. All I said was he failed to make it. Most of the media shows this over and over. It in no way cost them the game. I said it doesn't take away from his greatness. Re-read my post. I said the MSM is making too much of this one play! I will be the first to defend Welker. He just didn't hang on to the ball period.

I agree, the media continuing to show this play is ridiculous and uncalled for, but I believe we can have a rational discussion when one of ours drops a pass. The discussion is; the Patriots made mistakes and dropped numerous passes. Welker's drop was just one of those, that's it. That should be all. I just thought that's what sports historian was trying to convey.

We at CF should be able to critique and discuss, because we of all people understand that the black players get a pass when they fail. We shouldn't give ours a pass when they fail. That makes us no better than them.

If every player on the field were white, there would still be mistakes and dropped passes. What would we say then? We would have a discussion of key plays or mistakes that occured in the game.
 
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I've been hearing how great the Manningham catch was all day, but I haven't heard how even more remarkable the throw by Manning was. Eli is clutch, has been killed by DWFs and the media for YEARS, yet, somehow he has two Super Bowl rings, two Super Bowl MVPs. The fact that Eli Manning will now be in Canton one day despite being labeled a bust since year one is a nice consolation prize. Oh, and Danny scored a TD-- really think about that...Years ago we didn't even think he'd be in the league at this point. All is not bad...
 

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I don't feel too bad about the Patriots losing. If you had to pick one team that is the most likely to remain competitive in the next few years, which one would you pick? I'll take the Patriots. 14-2 last year, 13-3 this year, they've been in the hunt for the Super Bowl every year for over a decade now. The year Brady went out with the knee injury in the season opener they still went 10-6 with the inexperienced Matt Cassel at QB.

The NFL has been designed for parity; the league doesn't want dynasties and it wants every team to be in playoff contention every few years or so. New England is the only team that has threatened that parity in recent years and as long as Belichick is the coach I don't see it changing. The weak link on the team is the defense, but I also don't see Belichick addressing it the way Houston has, he'll continue to try and do it through mostly time-honored Caste System means -- unless he truly wants to challenge the Caste System, which I don't see happening.

The best thing that can happen is that other NFL organizations incrementally give more White players a fair shake, which seems to be happening a bit at WR, TE, LB, DE and safety, but the way college recruiting and playing remains it's going to have to start at a lower level than the NFL before the league's now long-established racial breakdown starts to noticeably change.

I think the best thing we have going for us now is a shrinking pool of black talent, reflecting the ever-growing dysfunction of urban blacks. The force-feeding of blacks through extreme affirmative action becomes more obvious every year; there are many more highly drafted black busts now while more Whites succeed no matter where they were drafted (or not drafted at all). Time is on our side but it will remain very slow going for now.
 
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The reason why the Welker catch is receiving so much coverage is obvious. We all know if that had been Randy Moss in the same situation a few years ago, it would have been just as ignored as Branch's and Hernandez' drops were. But that's the way it is in this league- even the most successful white skill players have no margin for error. It's ironic, of course, that the most high profile white WR in decades is being scrutinized for a dropped pass, something all black receivers are renowned for. That's kind of like tracking down the only white pimp in existence and using him to complain about the exploitation of women.

I find it curious that no one else has questioned the safety, which really was crucial in setting the tone for this game. I've been watching NFL games for nearly as long as Sport Historian, and can't remember a single example of a QB being called for intentional grounding on a play where a deep bomb was overthrown. On the contrary, I've seen QBs overthrow the field like that multiple times over the years, where no receiver is anywhere in sight. The fact that this unprecedented call occurred on a pass out of the end zone, resulting in a safety, only compounds things.

Brady played well on the two drives that resulted in the Pats scoring 17 straight points. Other than that, he looked like he has most of the time in the playoffs since the Pats lost to the Giants in the Super Bowl four years ago. He doesn't look elite, doesn't look clutch. Holds the ball way too long, and his passes are off just enough to matter. Welker and Branch both dropped passes that were thrown behind them and they were both wide open targets. If that had been Tebow throwing those passes, we all know how many comments would have been made about his lack of accuracy. I've never seen any QB have such great success in the post-season early on, only to backslide as much as Brady has. Who else has gone from cool and collected to shaky and indecisive in the clutch?

I fully expect to see a massive campaign on the part of the media for the Pats to "get some real weapons" for their offense. There will be no calls for any upgrades to that atrocious defense, and I fully expect Belicheck to keep drafting the same affletes he has been for a decade now. I just don't think there are any positives coming out of this game, as some of you do.
 

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The Patriots lack of run game really hurt them. They were calling runs up the middle with Woodhead, he is hard to pick up behind the line and is a very capable between the tackles runner but it would of been nice for the Pats to either spread the field with 4 WR sets and then let Woodhead gash the defense or let him run to the outside.

If I was giving Belicheck some advice it would be:
Draft Jared Crick/Harrison Smith this year. Make Dane Fletcher a full time starter over Brandon (If he was white running a 5.0 40 would be out of the league) Spikes. It wouldn't hurt if they also picked up another mauling physical presence on o-line to replace the veteran Waters.

Blackburn's INT was a hell of a play...great story too. It's a shame the Giants did not think enough of him to keep him on the opening day roster. Hynoski was an unsung hero to, making some catches, blocks and a key fumble recovery. Eli Manning also played very well.

Let's also not forgot that Jerry Reese has drafted black o-linemen the past few years to replace what was once a 4/5th white o-line yet Diehl who was kicked into guard at the beginning of the season went back to his natural position of LT to close out the year and through the playoffs due to injury and played very well. It would be nice if the Giants got a little whiter but I am pretty sure Reese is going to continue blackening the team.
 

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I don't feel too bad about the Patriots losing. If you had to pick one team that is the most likely to remain competitive in the next few years, which one would you pick? I'll take the Patriots. 14-2 last year, 13-3 this year, they've been in the hunt for the Super Bowl every year for over a decade now. The year Brady went out with the knee injury in the season opener they still went 10-6 with the inexperienced Matt Cassel at QB.

The NFL has been designed for parity; the league doesn't want dynasties and it wants every team to be in playoff contention every few years or so. New England is the only team that has threatened that parity in recent years and as long as Belichick is the coach I don't see it changing. The weak link on the team is the defense, but I also don't see Belichick addressing it the way Houston has, he'll continue to try and do it through mostly time-honored Caste System means -- unless he truly wants to challenge the Caste System, which I don't see happening.

The best thing that can happen is that other NFL organizations incrementally give more White players a fair shake, which seems to be happening a bit at WR, TE, LB, DE and safety, but the way college recruiting and playing remains it's going to have to start at a lower level than the NFL before the league's now long-established racial breakdown starts to noticeably change.

I think the best thing we have going for us now is a shrinking pool of black talent, reflecting the ever-growing dysfunction of urban blacks. The force-feeding of blacks through extreme affirmative action becomes more obvious every year; there are many more highly drafted black busts now while more Whites succeed no matter where they were drafted (or not drafted at all). Time is on our side but it will remain very slow going for now.



Yes Don it has to start at a lower level, really low, like elementary school! I was at a high school combine on Sunday and once again, I would say 80% of the participants were black. Even the linemen were mostly black.

I know I sound like a broken record, but I will keep preaching the truth. Obviously I don't know ages of the CF posters, but I would advise anyone here at CF, if you're planning to have children and you plan on letting them play sports, get started early and often.

Keep them off the sofa! Get them started early on a sport like soccer, that teaches foot speed or have them work on plyometrics and speed, technique, and proper form in sprinting. Also, start them on an upper body exercise such as push-ups as early as 5-6 years old. Nothing wrong with core work either such as crunches and leg lifts.

I have found if you start early on the importance of physical fitness, it will stay with them and they won't be so far behind by the time they reach junior high or high school.

We will never get an advantage or even equality as long as the ambitious white parents keep ignoring their children in favor moving up the corporate ladder.

Parents spend time with your children and encourage them to do well academically!
 
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The reason why the Welker catch is receiving so much coverage is obvious. We all know if that had been Randy Moss in the same situation a few years ago, it would have been just as ignored as Branch's and Hernandez' drops were. But that's the way it is in this league- even the most successful white skill players have no margin for error. It's ironic, of course, that the most high profile white WR in decades is being scrutinized for a dropped pass, something all black receivers are renowned for. That's kind of like tracking down the only white pimp in existence and using him to complain about the exploitation of women. I find it curious that no one else has questioned the safety, which really was crucial in setting the tone for this game. I've been watching NFL games for nearly as long as Sport Historian, and can't remember a single example of a QB being called for intentional grounding on a play where a deep bomb was overthrown. On the contrary, I've seen QBs overthrow the field like that multiple times over the years, where no receiver is anywhere in sight. The fact that this unprecedented call occurred on a pass out of the end zone, resulting in a safety, only compounds things. Brady played well on the two drives that resulted in the Pats scoring 17 straight points. Other than that, he looked like he has most of the time in the playoffs since the Pats lost to the Giants in the Super Bowl four years ago. He doesn't look elite, doesn't look clutch. Holds the ball way too long, and his passes are off just enough to matter. Welker and Branch both dropped passes that were thrown behind them and they were both wide open targets. If that had been Tebow throwing those passes, we all know how many comments would have been made about his lack of accuracy. I've never seen any QB have such great success in the post-season early on, only to backslide as much as Brady has. Who else has gone from cool and collected to shaky and indecisive in the clutch?I fully expect to see a massive campaign on the part of the media for the Pats to "get some real weapons" for their offense. There will be no calls for any upgrades to that atrocious defense, and I fully expect Belicheck to keep drafting the same affletes he has been for a decade now. I just don't think there are any positives coming out of this game, as some of you do.

On this Bigunreal and I agree, namely the safety against Brady. I've never seen a safety called on a pass far down the field. It surprised me when the officials called it a safety. They might have given Brady the benefit of the doubt, but they didn't.

As for the coverage of Welker's drop, he did lead the league in receptions, didn't he? If the league's leading pass receiver drops a key pass in the Super Bowl and his team loses, it's going to be noticed. Haven't we been saying for years that Welker wasn't just another player?
 

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Oddly enough, just as he was one of Tim Tebow's earliest and most vocal supporters this season, Michael Irvin empathized with Welker. Must be a receiver thing, but he was literally broken up on the NFL Network post-game show, and called Welker the top receiver in the league.
 

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Yes, Irvin really earned a bit of respect from me by sticking by his "controversial" statement earlier this year that Welker was the best receiver in the NFL. That really says a lot about the state of sports "journalism," when we have to look to the likes of Michael Irvin for enlightenment, doesn't it?

SH, you're right- Welker absolutely has to make that catch, especially in that situation. My only point was that obviously the reaction from the DWFs and jock sniffing journalists was going to be predictably harsh. As for Brady, I think he is gradually turning into Peyton Manning- great regular seasons, but a clear and noticable diminished performance in the playoffs.
 
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how is this a loss?

i dont really see this as a loss for white supporters. i mean, the pats start 8-9 white players and the giants start 7 whites. chase blackburn had a great performance, and bear pascoe and henry hynoski had good games receiving and blocking. also the quarterbacks got all the attention. if it was the steelers who only start 3-4 whites i could understand the dissapointment from you.
 
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