David Haye: The Great Black Hype

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Westside and Parody, you are two great posters and you shouldn't be arguing.

Back to the subject, I believe Wladimir was drugged once before so in reality a "fix" already occured. That was the Brewster fight. I also believe the Ross Purrity fight was very fishy as well. So in reality, Wlad's only legit loss was to Corrie Sanders who was in his prime at the time and would have given any heavyweight a problem.

The pricks at HBO have said time and time again that the Klitschko brothers are boring and they refuse to show their fights. Of course they want the diva Haye to win so that the division will have a brutha as champ and the DWF's will start to get interested in boxing again. Then again like Lost said, the Klitschkos' are huge in Europe and that certainly works in their favor.



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whiteathlete33 said:
Westside and Parody, you are two great posters and you shouldn't be arguing.

Back to the subject, I believe Wladimir was drugged once before so in reality a "fix" already occured. That was the Brewster fight. I also believe the Ross Purrity fight was very fishy as well. So in reality, Wlad's only legit loss was to Corrie Sanders who was in his prime at the time and would have given any heavyweight a problem.

The pricks at HBO have said time and time again that the Klitschko brothers are boring and they refuse to show their fights. Of course they want the diva Haye to win so that the division will have a brutha as champ and the DWF's will start to get interested in boxing again. Then again like Lost said, the Klitschkos' are huge in Europe and that certainly works in their favor.
The Brewster fight I feel was Wladimir's only suspicious match and clearly his wasn't in on any fixing. What I call a "Fix" is when both fighters know and go along.
 

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And I also want to thank Parody and Whiteathlete for their support of me! I know I'm not the best poster but I do try....

You have a lot of boxing knowledge, especially from the older fights decades ago.
 

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lost said:
And I also want to thank Parody and Whiteathlete for their support of me! I know I'm not the best poster but I do try....[/QUOTE<div>
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Alexander79 said:
lost said:
And I also want to thank Parody and Whiteathlete for their support of me! I know I'm not the best poster but I do try....[/QUOTE


From personal experience, you are by far the most friendly guy in here and a big fan of our great European race.
Thank you and welcome Alexander!
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One day away. I bet the mouthy mulatto is crying with fear right now.Edited by: Liverlips
 
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Parody said:
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So you've finally figured out that "they" would have fixed the Klitschkos to lose years ago if it were possible? Did you think the Klitschkos would take a dive if promoters and/or TV people told them to?

Of course they did not think that, and of course the Klitschkos would not.

When you post in the boxing section, "sport historian", please be more respectful and refrain from sarcastically attacking our regular boxing posters like lost and whiteathelete33. If you really are a supporter of white athletes yourself, you should be able to recognize and appreciate their support for these boxers.

I have been rooting for white fighters in heavyweight bouts since Ingemar Johansson in 1959.
 

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lost said:
And I also want to thank Parody and Whiteathlete for their support of me! I know I'm not the best poster but I do try....

You are definitely one of our best posters - you unflinchingly support white boxers!

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lost said:
And I also want to thank Parody and Whiteathlete for their support of me! I know I'm not the best poster but I do try....



You are definitely one of our best posters - you unflinchingly support white boxers!



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Alexander79 said:
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I agree Laszlo Papp is the greatest amateur boxer ever, and it is indeed Marcel Cerdan in my avatar.
 

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David Haye, circa round two:

"Oh-muh-GAWD, dawg! You dun'socked me in muh NUTS! I goin'down, man! You cheated, Whitey! If it weren't for my paralyzing fear -- er, pain in my balls, I'd have whupped you! And now... to tell everyone else who will listen that same story. I will also claim victory on my TOTALLY GAY twitter page..."
 

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GiovaniMarcon said:
David Haye, circa round two:



"Oh-muh-GAWD, dawg! You dun'socked me in muh NUTS! I goin'down, man! You cheated, Whitey! If it weren't for my paralyzing fear -- er, pain in my balls, I'd have whupped you! And now... to tell everyone else who will listen that same story. I will also claim victory on my TOTALLY GAY twitter page..."
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Honest article on upcoming fight

Why Wladimir Klitschko will make quick work of David Haye
by Geoffrey Ciani (Photo by Stefan Hoyer) - Many observers are expecting a competitive matchup when IBF/WBO champion Wladimir Klitschko (55-3, 49 KOs) and WBA title holder David Haye (25-1, 23 KOs) square off in a highly anticipated heavyweight unification bout on July 2. In fact, not only are a lot of viewers seeing David Haye as Wladimir's toughest foe since his first fight with Sam Peter, some are even actually expecting Haye to win! While the event itself will no doubt draw a lot of attention, is this fight itself going to live up to expectations? Is David Haye really going to represent a difficult challenge for Wladimir Klitschko?

When you break this fight down to its bare essentials, we are left with a good big man fighting a good little man. Historically, this does not bode well for Haye. The reality is Haye's best chance is a mere puncher's chance. It is true that Klitschko has been knocked out in the past, and it is also true that questions have long surrounded his chin. Therefore, it is not out of the realm of possibility to see a scenario unfolding where Haye lands a big shot and Wladimir is out for the count. This, however, is an extremely unlikely outcome. Yes, Haye has a "puncher's chance"Â￾ but in order to capitalize on that, he has to actually take chances, especially early. As a heavyweight, Haye is not big on taking chances though, and it would be surprising if he suddenly changed his tune against the best boxer he has ever faced.

If you look at David Haye's victory against Nicolai Valuev when he captured the WBA title, it was hardly an impressive performance. The majority of onlookers agree that a 45 year old version of Evander Holyfield put forth a better effort against the seven foot giant. Haye would finally land a big shot in the final round, but through eleven rounds of "action"Â￾ he refused to take the type of chances that he needs to take if he is to have any chance of success against Wladimir. It is doubtful his approach will change. Even looking at his most recent effort against undeserving challenger Audley Harrison, Haye started off cautious and timidly. The point is that David Haye is unwilling to take risks unless he feels safe.

In his fight against John Ruiz, it is true that he beat Ruiz from pillar to post with relative ease, but Ruiz always made the inexplicable mistake of trying to box when paired off against naturally smaller and quicker opponents like Roy Jones and James Toney. While Haye showed undeniable power in that fight, it was only after he had assessed what Ruiz brought to the table and was confident in landing his power shots, and even in that fight he could have taken ‘The Quiet Man' out earlier had he pressed more and taken more risks.

Klitschko has been like a fine-oiled machine in recent years, using his superior reach and size to systematically break down foes both mentally and physically before usually scoring a late round stoppage. He has a telephone pole jab and deceptive hand speed. Once he establishes his jab, big right hands and snappy left hooks soon follow, and before long Klitschko has reduced his opponent into a helpless shell of survival as he essentially has his way with them. The only reason to believe that David Haye will not suffer the same fate as Klitschko's recent opponents is that he has a puncher's chance. Having a puncher's "chance"Â￾ requires one to take risks, however, and Haye has not shown an inclination to do so since moving to heavyweight and orchestrating this event through the use of clever PR tactics and smart matchmaking.

At the end of the day, Klitschko has every advantage going into this fight. He is bigger, faster, stronger, more experienced, better skilled, and a naturally more gifted athlete. Making matters worse, according to Klitschko's head trainer Emanuel Steward, Wladimir has not been this perturbed with an opponent since winning his rematch with Chris Byrd. Expect David Haye to go down as soon as Wladimir lands his first big power shot, whether it be a big right hand or a quick hook off the jab. Either way, once Klitschko lands big this one will essentially be over. In all likelihood, when all is said and done this one will end up looking like an utter mismatch.

OFFICIAL PREDICTION: Wladimir Klitschko KO2 David Haye
 

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Excellent article and it's 100 percent true. The DWF"s think that Haye is the faster man when Wladimir moves like a light heavyweight at 240lbs.
 
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lost said:
whiteathlete33 said:
Excellent article and it's 100 percent true. The DWF"s think that Haye is the faster man when Wladimir moves like a light heavyweight at 240lbs.
You're not alone in your view. Adamek feels people will be shocked at how little difference in speed thereis between Wladimir and Haye....
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Which heavyweight today wouldn't look fast against Old Man Ruiz and Valuev?
 

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These Brits are a curious lot. I recall similar enthusiasm when Bruno challenged Tyson and defended Tyson. I also remember Bruno being an immobile statue in the first fight and crossing himself a thousand times before he entered the ring in the rematch...
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These Brits are a curious lot. I recall similar enthusiasm when Bruno challenged Tyson and defended Tyson. I also remember Bruno being an immobile statue in the first fight and crossing himself a thousand times before he entered the ring in the rematch...
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From the video.. when Wlad was weighing-in, I heard those weaklings shouting "roider, roider, roider." Maybe they haven't heard of such things as fitness, conditioning and weight-training? Oh, and a man having self-respect?..

If Wheaties is sold in the UK, those "folks" certainly need to eat some!
 

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If Wheaties is sold in the UK, those "folks" certainly need to eat some! [/QUOTE]
 

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white is right said:
These Brits are a curious lot. I recall similar enthusiasm when Bruno challenged Tyson and defended Tyson. I also remember Bruno being an immobile statue in the first fight and crossing himself a thousand times before he entered the ring in the rematch...
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Yeah, WIR, the Brits have a weird affection toward their black boxers. I remember how they loved Bruno and Chris Eubanks. Just like American DWFs laud guys like Ochosinko and the like. The only White that compared or even exceeded their hysteria was Ricky Hatton, who cut short his career by pounding Guiness in excess.
 

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"...who cut short his career by pounding Guiness in excess."

Not to mention cocaine. The UK is a degenerate cesspool that gets worse by the minute ever since they "won" WW2.

I hope the German police don't treat the drunken English hooligans with kid gloves this time because they'll be creating mayhem in the streets after their heroine gets KO'd. I think they should just lock them up and deport them back to where they came from the minute they flop off their train or plane, as a preventive measure.
 

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The Brits are indeed prolific drinkers. They are the ones who spawned DWFs in America. Ricky Hatton, sank his career due to utter lack of discipline. The night he beat Kosta Zsyue(spelling?) was when he was at his peak. Shortly thereafter, he became a slave to the dark beer, and subsequently stumbled around his city chasing the "dark brown drink."
 
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