Christophe Lemaitre "White Lightning" 9.92 and 19.80!

jacknyc · Aug 24, 2014

Ujah clearly beat Lemaitre today, and he beat him in Paris in July.
Right now Lemaitre is the 5th best European 100m sprinter after Vicaut, Dasaolu, Gemili, and Ujah.

elispeedster · Aug 24, 2014

The Master said:
In France we speak french so english is not our mother tongue so maybe you should calm down and understand that Rcsman used a wrong word to describe the same thing as you....

We all agree Lemaitre did not improve, and I admit he has regressed, but elitespeeder that talks about mediocrity, it's a shame. 10'13 and 20'08 is far from mediocrity, and we should have respect for all athlets whatever their levels, especially when we haven't acomplished anything.

I'm pretty sure none of us is able to run a 100m under 11sec btw

For Christophe, what can we say ? He and his coach know perfectly that he is not as fast as before, they tried but he did not work.

Will he change coach ? Will it be better considering Christophe seems to be very atatched to Carraz? I don't know.

I understand we are all sad to not see him doing like before but it's probably way harder to accept for him

Let s cross fingers that next year will his.

Wow! the stubbornness of some of you is mind boggling...what is so difficult to understand? He has regressed 3+years! In the 60, in the 100 and his supposed strength, the 200....common sense states when something is not working you must change in order to make some progress or at least try a new approach 360...my god what ignorance!

The Master · Aug 24, 2014

elispeedster said:
Wow! the stubbornness of some of you is mind boggling...what is so difficult to understand? He has regressed 3+years! In the 60, in the 100 and his supposed strength, the 200....common sense states when something is not working you must change in order to make some progress or at least try a new approach 360...my god what ignorance!

We all agree Lemaitre did not improve, and I admit he has regressed

You even quoted me...anyway, don't want to start a fight with you....

Carraz has assistants to help him, he does'nt train Lemaitre alone.

What if,

What if the true, the sad true, but what if the prime of Christophe was 3 years ago, and that he just regressed naturally, whatever training, powerlifting he does...

We have a lot of examples that illustrate this phenomenom, that strange thing that made some guys peak at a very early age and then they struggle to be as good as when they were young.

The best example is obviously Shirvo, that was 10'03 at 19 and then...

I obviously hope am wrong and next year Christophe will be a sub-10 guy again

elispeedster · Aug 24, 2014

The Master said:
We all agree Lemaitre did not improve, and I admit he has regressed

You even quoted me...anyway, don't want to start a fight with you....

Carraz has assistants to help him, he does'nt train Lemaitre alone.

What if,

What if the true, the sad true, but what if the prime of Christophe was 3 years ago, and that he just regressed naturally, whatever training, powerlifting he does...

We have a lot of examples that illustrate this phenomenom, that strange thing that made some guys peak at a very early age and then they struggle to be as good as when they were young.

The best example is obviously Shirvo, that was 10'03 at 19 and then...

I obviously hope am wrong and next year Christophe will be a sub-10 guy again

I hope Im wrong too!

Don't compare Shirvo to Lemiatre, Shirvo was a straight power short distance guy, he did not have that natural top end speed like Lemaitre. Shirvo was also very strong, doing Squats with over 400 pounds at a bodyweight of 175. Also, Lemaitre ran sub 10 more than once and sub 20 more than once...he should not have regressed this quickly

jastral · Aug 24, 2014

I think Lemaitre is a very unique and rare talent:

First and only sub 10 white sprinter.
2011 World Championship: 100m final (only non black athlete)
2012 Olympic Games: 200m final (only non black athlete)
2013 World Championship: 100m final (only non black athlete)

I think sometimes we are too hard with the kid (included myself).

2011 100m final

2012 200m final

Usain+Bolt+Olympics+Day+13+Athletics+QSgCU__vMKPl.jpg

2013 100m final

RCSMAN · Aug 25, 2014

elispeedster said:
I hope Im wrong too!

Don't compare Shirvo to Lemiatre, Shirvo was a straight power short distance guy, he did not have that natural top end speed like Lemaitre. Shirvo was also very strong, doing Squats with over 400 pounds at a bodyweight of 175. Also, Lemaitre ran sub 10 more than once and sub 20 more than once...he should not have regressed this quickly

"he should not have regressed this quickly" :faint2:

you are a clown

elispeedster · Aug 25, 2014

RCSMAN said:
"he should not have regressed this quickly" :faint2:

you are a clown

3+ years and counting of regression under the guidance of a Amateur Coach and Club...yet I'm the clown.....LMFAO!

Izwal · Aug 28, 2014

Christophe runs 200m in Zurich today, 20h31 local time, 18h31 GMT.
http://www.diamondleague-zurich.com/en/Results/Overview/200m-men/
Expected weather: no rain, low wind, 19Â°C.

Start list:

1.	James Ellington	20.42 PB	20.44 SB
2.	Serhiy Smelyk	20.30 PB	20.30 SB
3.	Curtis Mitchell	19.97 PB	20.13 SB
4.	Rasheed Dwyer	20.04 PB	20.04 SB
5.	Christophe Lemaitre	19.80 PB	20.08 SB
6.	Nick Ashmeade	19.85 PB	19.95 SB
7.	Alonso Edward	19.81 PB	19.84 SB
8.	Churandy Martina	19.85 PB	20.37 SB

lactatking · Aug 28, 2014

ZÃ¼rich Diamond League

1	EDWARD Alonso	PAN	19.95		0.200	19	1
2	ASHMEADE Nickel	JAM	20.01		0.127	18	2
3	DWYER Rasheed	JAM	20.21		0.172	3	4
4	LEMAITRE Christophe	FRA	20.24		0.129	4	3
5	MARTINA Churandy	NED	20.25	SB	0.150
6	MITCHELL Curtis	USA	20.26		0.157
7	SMELYK Serhiy	UKR	20.61		0.162
8	ELLINGTON James	GBR	21.00		0.131

RCSMAN and elispeedster ....
Your statements please

trackster · Aug 28, 2014

I've seen the video. Let's just say it's "too graphic for young viewers." Every bit as dreadful as the time and finish would indicate. Horrendous turn, then he started making up ground, then on the last few steps his form broke down so completely it was just bizarre. He used to wait until the races were over before he got disgusted with himself, but now he gets disgusted well before the end of the race, and it shows.

I'm not as obsessed with weights as the rest of you guys, but, whatever the problem is, he's messed up. He's simply nowhere near the runner that he once was, and he's only got a year or two left in his prime (after that, the only way to keep running at a high level is to eat Jamaican "yams."). Given how few real races he runs each year, he's realistically only got maybe 10 races left and he'll undoubtedly run all ten in rainy, cold conditions.

elispeedster · Aug 28, 2014

lactatking said:
1
EDWARD Alonso
PAN
19.95
0.200
19
1

2
ASHMEADE Nickel
JAM
20.01
0.127
18
2
3
DWYER Rasheed
JAM
20.21
0.172
3
4
4
LEMAITRE Christophe
FRA
20.24
0.129
4
3
5
MARTINA Churandy
NED
20.25
SB
0.150
6
MITCHELL Curtis
USA
20.26
0.157
7
SMELYK Serhiy
UKR
20.61
0.162
8
ELLINGTON James
GBR
21.00
0.131

RCSMAN and elispeedster ....
Your statements please

Well it is not as Bad as it looks! IGNORANT! The race was done aganist the wind at -.09 which equates to a .14 of added time due to the positioning of the sun while the earth was rotating at a slower pace in contrast to the solar flares. The Barometric pressure was .19828 which would deduct another .00001 off his time, that, plus, the socks he wore for this race was bright yellow rather than yellow/orange, again deduct .001 off his time, so technically Lemaitre has made progress as his real time would of been 20.001 meaning best for the year! IGNORANT XENOPHOBE!

PS: Lemaitre added 2 pounds to his squat and ran the cones .0001 faster against the wind. He is on pace for a great 7th place in the 100 and 5th in the 200 come RIO 2016...that is if he makes past the 1st round

RCSMAN · Aug 28, 2014

elispeedster said:
Well it is not as Bad as it looks! IGNORANT! The race was done aganist the wind at -.09 which equates to a .14 of added time due to the positioning of the sun while the earth was rotating at a slower pace in contrast to the solar flares. The Barometric pressure was .19828 which would deduct another .00001 off his time, that, plus, the socks he wore for this race was bright yellow rather than yellow/orange, again deduct .001 off his time, so technically Lemaitre has made progress as his real time would of been 20.001 meaning best for the year! IGNORANT XENOPHOBE!

PS: Lemaitre added 2 pounds to his squat and ran the cones .0001 faster against the wind. He is on pace for a great 7th place in the 100 and 5th in the 200 come RIO 2016...that is if he makes past the 1st round

Christophe says he's tired (8 races in 6 days in european championship), so 20.24 (-0.9) it's a good race, congratulation to Christophe and Carraz

Izwal · Aug 28, 2014

RCSMAN said:
Christophe says he's tired (8 races in 6 days in european championship), so 20.24 (-0.9) it's a good race, congratulation to Christophe and Carraz

Euro champs were 1 or 2 weeks ago.
Why is he still tired? Lack of motivation? He should be happy to run.

Also I heard him complaining about his calves burning very early when running.

elispeedster · Aug 28, 2014

RCSMAN said:
Christophe says he's tired (8 races in 6 days in european championship), so 20.24 (-0.9) it's a good race, congratulation to Christophe and Carraz

LOL! LOL! LOL! how could I predict your response....so sad.... but funny! LOL!

icsept · Aug 28, 2014

elispeedster said:
Well it is not as Bad as it looks! IGNORANT! The race was done aganist the wind at -.09 which equates to a .14 of added time due to the positioning of the sun while the earth was rotating at a slower pace in contrast to the solar flares. The Barometric pressure was .19828 which would deduct another .00001 off his time, that, plus, the socks he wore for this race was bright yellow rather than yellow/orange, again deduct .001 off his time, so technically Lemaitre has made progress as his real time would of been 20.001 meaning best for the year! IGNORANT XENOPHOBE!

PS: Lemaitre added 2 pounds to his squat and ran the cones .0001 faster against the wind. He is on pace for a great 7th place in the 100 and 5th in the 200 come RIO 2016...that is if he makes past the 1st round

That was hilarious. RCSMAN is a joke.

lactatking · Aug 29, 2014

RCSMAN said:
Christophe says he's tired (8 races in 6 days in european championship), so 20.24 (-0.9) it's a good race, congratulation to Christophe and Carraz

Adam Gemili started at Commonwealth Games and the European Championships .. he wasn't tired.

RCSMAN · Aug 29, 2014

Izwal said:
Euro champs were 1 or 2 weeks ago.
Why is he still tired? Lack of motivation? He should be happy to run.

Also I heard him complaining about his calves burning very early when running.

Why is he still tired ?

Christophe ran 6 X100M and 4X200M in 2 WEEKS !!

"his calves burning very early when running" yes because he's tired

Christophe want run fast in bruxelles, in rieti next week, and in Marrakech

RCSMAN · Aug 29, 2014

elispeedster said:
LOL! LOL! LOL! how could I predict your response....so sad.... but funny! LOL!

yes ELITE SPORT is more tiring than track and fields (video game)

sorry for your ignorance :whistle:

ZELLGADISS · Aug 29, 2014

elispeedster said:
Well it is not as Bad as it looks! IGNORANT! The race was done aganist the wind at -.09 which equates to a .14 of added time due to the positioning of the sun while the earth was rotating at a slower pace in contrast to the solar flares. The Barometric pressure was .19828 which would deduct another .00001 off his time, that, plus, the socks he wore for this race was bright yellow rather than yellow/orange, again deduct .001 off his time, so technically Lemaitre has made progress as his real time would of been 20.001 meaning best for the year! IGNORANT XENOPHOBE!

PS: Lemaitre added 2 pounds to his squat and ran the cones .0001 faster against the wind. He is on pace for a great 7th place in the 100 and 5th in the 200 come RIO 2016...that is if he makes past the 1st round

Yes 20.24 -0.9 is a good race, it is 20.1 with tailwind.
But yes, i think that Lemaitre should to try new things in his training for to improve more in the next season.

RCSMAN · Aug 29, 2014

RCSMAN said:
yes ELITE SPORT is more tiring than track and fields (video game)

sorry for your ignorance :whistle:

http://france3-regions.francetvinfo...s-christophe-lemaitre-4e-sur-200m-540028.html

elispeedster · Aug 29, 2014

RCSMAN said:
http://france3-regions.francetvinfo...s-christophe-lemaitre-4e-sur-200m-540028.html

LOL! at the excuses

Izwal · Aug 30, 2014

RCSMAN said:
Why is he still tired ?

Christophe ran 6 X100M and 4X200M in 2 WEEKS !!

Euro championships ended on august 17th. Ten days is not enough to recover?

Remember, Carraz said before the champs that Christophe was not totally ready because they were late on their planning but Christophe would peak just after the champs. And now that the champs are over we are told that Christophe is tired. Disappointing...

The Master · Sep 1, 2014

Izwal said:
Euro championships ended on august 17th. Ten days is not enough to recover?

Remember, Carraz said before the champs that Christophe was not totally ready because they were late on their planning but Christophe would peak just after the champs. And now that the champs are over we are told that Christophe is tired. Disappointing...

Obviously he is tired, do we have to remind that he is drug-free ? How can we expect always the best from someone who is natural ?

He wants to do his best and then after the race, he just said how he felt. You can perfectly think you are in good shape and then be tired during the race....

20'24 with the wind and all the races he did in 2 weeks is a crazy performance, he is not 20 anymore, and the recovery is longer at 24.

lactatking · Sep 2, 2014

The Master said:
20'24 with the wind and all the races he did in 2 weeks is a crazy performance, he is not 20 anymore, and the recovery is longer at 24.

I think you have the highest testosterone level at 23/24. Afterwards it's going downhill.
I think Christophe is mental(ly) tired, not only phyiscal(ly) ("burning calfs").

RCSMAN · Sep 2, 2014

lactatking said:
I think you have the highest testosterone level at 23/24. Afterwards it's going downhill.
I think Christophe is mental(ly) tired, not only phyiscal(ly) ("burning calfs").

BIG 200M

ATHLETE	DATE OF BIRTH	NATION	PB	SB
BAILEY Ryan	13.04.1989	USA	20.10	20.37
EDWARD Alonso	08.12.1989	PAN	19.81	19.84
GATLIN Justin	10.02.1982	USA	19.68	19.68
LEMAITRE Christophe	11.06.1990	FRA	19.80	20.08
MAKWALA Isaac	29.09.1986	BOT	19.96	19.96
MITCHELL Curtis	11.03.1989	USA	19.97	20.13
OGUNODE Femi	15.05.1991	QAT	20.06	20.06
SMELYK Serhiy	19.04.1987	UKR	20.30	20.30
ZALEWSKI Karol	07.08.1993	POL	20.41	20.42

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