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As for Leo's point about Trubisky my general rule of thumb on white athletes declaring is very conservative. In the case of Christian Mac after three great seasons he is ready and roaring to go. Plus the general public is fully aware of him and he will be ready to contribute day one. As for a highly rated QB like Trubisky , who will likely declare, I actually think it would be better if he stayed at NC one more year. Wide receiver Proehl will still be there. He would likely raise his national profile through the roof and people will see an athletic white QB in their living rooms every week and Heisman talk etc. If he jumps he might be holding a clip board for a year or two and that doesn't help the cause here at caste much at all. The key, and this goes for basketball players too, is national exposure whatever the level .We want national audiences seeing white athletes excel and for many white football and basketball players they would get a lot more positive exposure if they stayed in college. And if anything waiting just a bit longer will help their pro careers in the long run. Sure it is always nice to see white guys announced as first round picks come draft day but to me exposure is more important in the long haul.
Like I mentioned I will be reading the NFL draft posts here but won't chime in until the combine because I want to concentrate on the NBA, college basketball , tennis ( Australian Open soon) and maybe some hockey.
That said it looks like four WR's will be invited to the combine. Switzer and Kupp are virtual locks and Trent Taylor was just invited so that leaves Hansen as a possible fourth WR combine invite . Is there a fifth one lurking? I doubt it but we can always hope.
But back to Christian Mac for a second. I think he will perform well at the combine but he is real important. He is the first star white pure running back ( no half ass fullback mix here) to be talked about in ages. He also has rightly been out spoken about how white athletes are often unjustly perceived as stiffs so his future success will do wonders for young white athletes down the road. They will have a "white" athlete to look up to and emulate just like Larry Bird back in the day. So more and more white kids will say to themselves 'I don't want to be the kicker or quit sports I want to shine at a skill position just like Christian Mac'.
I do sense ( can't get too optimistic) a slight resurgence of the white running back at the college level in the next few years but as C Mac as the point man that number could spike. Even at the pro level the last few weeks we have seen Zenner and Burkhead get a chance ( albeit through attrition) and perform well.
This will be a very important combine to say the least.
 
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Totally off topic, but recently I heard someone on here include O lineman with kickers and punters. Don't really remember the word he used, but something like glorified clip board holders. Now, everybody can agree than kickers and punters are just specialties and not really true football players, but O lineman should not be included here. O lineman have to be physical, strong, and athletic with a mean streak. I value white o lineman very much, maybe not as much as skill players, because their's not as many white ones. Hopefully we'll see Ramczyk, Bolles, and Dan Feeney (who is a guard) all drafted in the first round. CBS sports projects all 3 to go in the 1st.
 

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I value white o lineman very much, maybe not as much as skill players, because their's not as many white ones.

I disagree with this sentiment. If anything I value white O-Linemen MORE than I ever have (same with white QB's) since there is a systematic assault to purge them from the league. If you look at teams like Oakland and Miami, their O-Lines are entirely black (Miami's depends on whether or not Pouncey is in there) Look at all the sumos like Greg Robinson. They're almost always overdrafted and in many cases (like Robinson) turn out to be complete busts. They go high in the draft because of that magic word and I think you all know what that word is. It starts with a U.
 

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Speaking of upside, Weenieworld outdid themselves with this one. Phil Taylor's yet another huge bust, a first round pick as a DT in 2011 who has 7, count 'em 7, career sacks in the NFL and missed all of 2015 and 2016 with knee problems. Yet he's still got dat magical upside:

Redskins signed NT Phil Taylor to a reserve/future contract. Taylor has missed the last two years with chronic knee issues. He's an upside stash for Washington going into the offseason. Redskins NT Ziggy Hood is a free agent.

(And Hood is himself another first round bust.)
 

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As for Leo's point about Trubisky my general rule of thumb on white athletes declaring is very conservative. In the case of Christian Mac after three great seasons he is ready and roaring to go. Plus the general public is fully aware of him and he will be ready to contribute day one. As for a highly rated QB like Trubisky , who will likely declare, I actually think it would be better if he stayed at NC one more year. Wide receiver Proehl will still be there. He would likely raise his national profile through the roof and people will see an athletic white QB in their living rooms every week and Heisman talk etc. If he jumps he might be holding a clip board for a year or two and that doesn't help the cause here at caste much at all. The key, and this goes for basketball players too, is national exposure whatever the level .We want national audiences seeing white athletes excel and for many white football and basketball players they would get a lot more positive exposure if they stayed in college. And if anything waiting just a bit longer will help their pro careers in the long run. Sure it is always nice to see white guys announced as first round picks come draft day but to me exposure is more important in the long haul.
Like I mentioned I will be reading the NFL draft posts here but won't chime in until the combine because I want to concentrate on the NBA, college basketball , tennis ( Australian Open soon) and maybe some hockey.
That said it looks like four WR's will be invited to the combine. Switzer and Kupp are virtual locks and Trent Taylor was just invited so that leaves Hansen as a possible fourth WR combine invite . Is there a fifth one lurking? I doubt it but we can always hope.
But back to Christian Mac for a second. I think he will perform well at the combine but he is real important. He is the first star white pure running back ( no half ass fullback mix here) to be talked about in ages. He also has rightly been out spoken about how white athletes are often unjustly perceived as stiffs so his future success will do wonders for young white athletes down the road. They will have a "white" athlete to look up to and emulate just like Larry Bird back in the day. So more and more white kids will say to themselves 'I don't want to be the kicker or quit sports I want to shine at a skill position just like Christian Mac'.
I do sense ( can't get too optimistic) a slight resurgence of the white running back at the college level in the next few years but as C Mac as the point man that number could spike. Even at the pro level the last few weeks we have seen Zenner and Burkhead get a chance ( albeit through attrition) and perform well.
This will be a very important combine to say the least.


I would like to see Trubisky declare. Next year there will be a ton of very good white QBs in the college ranks. We need our guys gets getting drafted every year and Trubisky right now is viewed as the top QB prospect for 2017 so his stock will likely never go higher.
 

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Looks like Gerry and Steelhammer are going to be only 2 white Dbs with a shot at getting drafted. Every one of our other prospects have been neglected during the pre draft process...
 

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Looks like Gerry and Steelhammer are going to be only 2 white Dbs with a shot at getting drafted. Every one of our other prospects have been neglected during the pre draft process...

It will be interesting to see how many get combine invites. There have to be at least 10 draft eligible DBs who will find their way to NFL rosters as UDFAs.
 

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It will be interesting to see how many get combine invites. There have to be at least 10 draft eligible DBs who will find their way to NFL rosters as UDFAs.

Yeah pretty frustrating hopefully of those ten a couple can stick around the league for a while.
 
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The sharp reduction in the whiteness of college QBs is going to have consequences for the NFL. If too few young White QBs enter the NFL to replace the aging, retiring quarterbacks and the position darkens too much, the NFL will see a massive ratings drop that will make this season's drop look like nothing. No matter how "anti-racist" (which we all know is just a code word for anti-white) people claim to be, the majority-Whiteness of the QB position is the one thing that's preventing the NFL from turning into an NBA clone.

For me, black (and Polynesian) quarterbacks are just not watchable, unless the team has a strong running game with a White running back.
 

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Pretty excited about Trubisky - he changes the whole feel to the draft for me. It means in 2016/2017 4 white qbs will be first rounders (Goff, Wentz, lynch in 2016).

Christian and the 10+ white WRs is also an exciting proposition.
 

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Jackson is not eligible for this year's draft, but I thought this gem was funny and interesting:

ACC coach: L. Jackson has no shot at the NFL
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SI's Pete Thamel spoke with one ACC coach who believes Louisville sophomore Lamar Jackson "has no shot at playing quarterback in the NFL. None."

It is worth noting that this coach faced Jackson this season (which almost certainly means Jackson torched the team's defense). "He can’t make the throws and can’t read coverages. He’s not going to have a chance," he concluded. These comments were made when the coach was asked about Deshaun Watson's ability, but it seems Jackson was the preferred topic. Jackson just turned 20 years old.
 

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Here is an idea, probably stupid but I'll throw it out there. To save the precious reputations of the GMs, coaches and the cuck media an on the fringe of the draft white RB should advertise himself as special teams ready instead of RB. Plenty of room in the NFL for the usual team mascot special teams demon role. Otherwise the crazy racial bigots and their black supremacist prejudices take over and the usual gaggle of no accounts get drafted because of black privilege while better white RBs go get jobs.

Anyway I just say that because if I were a productive RB at the second tier of college ball the only place that will take a white man to run the ball I would use the ST angle even if it meant I filled the Travis Jervey roll as ST demon slash 4th RB.

Any way I think the Caste System is so ridiculous that we could own it as Alinsky suggested
 

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http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/01/04/...and-browns-mitch-trubisky-san-francisco-49ers

McCaffrey to the patriots in this mock draft. Very black hardly any whites but McCaffrey to Patriots would be great.

http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2017/01/03/2017-nfl-mock-draft-post-regular-season-projections/

Also the patriots in this draft. Too much of a dream come true though. Looks like Wisconsin tackle Ramcysk and Qback Trubisky also first round but thats it.

Tj Watt I imagine will go first round anyone else certainties?



The most recent mock draft from BleecherReport also has McCaffrey going to the Pats in the late 1st round...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...dictions-top-prospects-after-cfp-championship

Every single year, all the "mock drafts" have the Pats drafting a white player in the 1st and 2nd rounds. It never happens and it won't this time, either.

I'd like to see McCaffrey go to a team that has the least amount of talent/competition at RB and truly needs him the most. I think he could be a similar RB to LeVeon Bell or Jamaal Charles.
 

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Every single year, all the "mock drafts" have the Pats drafting a white player in the 1st and 2nd rounds. It never happens and it won't this time, either.

I'd like to see McCaffrey go to a team that has the least amount of talent/competition at RB and truly needs him the most. I think he could be a similar RB to LeVeon Bell or Jamaal Charles.

I'd say Indy has the greatest need for a running back of any team, given that Frank Gore (who has had an outstanding career and is someone I respect as a team player and for the way he conducts himself) is ancient for the position.

Other teams with a strong need at RB are KC (assuming Charles is done, as is likely), Minnesota (Peterson is likely done or close to it), both New York teams (Forte is getting up there in years and is injury prone), Oakland (Murray is nothing special), New England (Blount is getting older), Philly, Tampa, and Washington. Only New England and Minnesota are "white friendly," while Philly, Indy and Washington are middle of the pack.
 

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I'd say Indy has the greatest need for a running back of any team, given that Frank Gore (who has had an outstanding career and is someone I respect as a team player and for the way he conducts himself) is ancient for the position.

Other teams with a strong need at RB are KC (assuming Charles is done, as is likely), Minnesota (Peterson is likely done or close to it), both New York teams (Forte is getting up there in years and is injury prone), Oakland (Murray is nothing special), New England (Blount is getting older), Philly, Tampa, and Washington. Only New England and Minnesota are "white friendly," while Philly, Indy and Washington are middle of the pack.

Seeing as he's very similar to Jamaal Charles (in both style of play and techniques, and they're virtually the same height and weight) I reckon the chiefs would be into him, but obviously going to the Pats, Vikes, or Redskins would be the best case scenario, or maybe the Colts. Would certainly love him at the niners, hopefully the change in ownership and coaching means a change or ways and we start giving chances to guys that don't have overflowing "upside" like Lattimore, Jenkins, James, and Mays (note: horrific busts taken in the first two rounds recently, all black) and although our RB is decent enough he's always injured.
 
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I just listened to 2 DWF's posing as draft gurus talking about McCaffrey and where they think he will go in the draft. " McCaffrey is fast, and can get through the hole but he is not strong or elusive and he does not have the size to be an every down back". I sh#t you not. Christian may be the most elusive rb in football history at any level. Not strong? He breaks so many tackles from guys that are much bigger than him. They also said he has poor acceleration. WTF?????? McCaffrey can accelerate with the best if he is not the best plus has there ever been a back in the history of football that can cut back and find a hole in the line through the play was not designed to go that way. He does it quite often.
Whatever NFL team that goes to draft by best player available they should be taking CM. The second best rb ever to live other than the great Barry Sanders.
 

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Perfect example of the caste system. I have yet to see invites for Tanner Gentry, Drew Morgan, Thomas Sperbeck, Jake Maulhardt, Brandon Reily to any of the "all star" games. Ken Griffey Jr's kid:

Arizona WR Trey Griffey accepted an invitation to the East-West Shrine Game.

The 6-foot-3, 209-pounder has 4.5 wheels and a famous, baseball-playing father, but he never quite panned out for the Wildcats. Griffey logged a 23-382-2 line this year. He never scored more than two touchdowns in a season, nor did he top 405 yards receiving.
 

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Perfect example of the caste system. I have yet to see invites for Tanner Gentry, Drew Morgan, Thomas Sperbeck, Jake Maulhardt, Brandon Reily to any of the "all star" games. Ken Griffey Jr's kid:

Arizona WR Trey Griffey accepted an invitation to the East-West Shrine Game.

The 6-foot-3, 209-pounder has 4.5 wheels and a famous, baseball-playing father, but he never quite panned out for the Wildcats. Griffey logged a 23-382-2 line this year. He never scored more than two touchdowns in a season, nor did he top 405 yards receiving.

Pathetic.
 

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There are about 15 underclassmen at the WR position that have declared all because it has been labeled a "weak position" in this year's draft class. Hoping most of these bums do not get drafted - every year so many overrated blacks enter the draft at all positions and it knocks out better white players from getting drafted at all.
 

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GREAT NEWS Leonardfan!

4 LBs just invited to Senior Bowl!!

Florida's Anzalone
Linedenwood's Harris
Michigan's Gedeon
Clemson's Boulware

BAD NEWS= Savage invited another sumo from Mississippi St, and 2 more polys. And our plethora of DB prospects continue to be ignored.

http://www.seniorbowl.com/news-highlights-detail.php?news=601
 
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Jackson is not eligible for this year's draft, but I thought this gem was funny and interesting:

Damn, Jackson may be the ugliest black man I've ever seen in my life. From a heterosexual standpoint, I always thought guys like Michael Vick, EJ Manuel, Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott and even Idler Arm Taylor were at least, decent looking black dudes. But when I look at Jackson, holy crap! That thing doesn't even look human! And we're supposed to believe THIS mutant will be able to play QB in the NFL? He's even uglier than the Toucan if you can believe it.
 
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Damn, Jackson may be the ugliest black man I've ever seen in my life. From a heterosexual standpoint, I always thought guys like Michael Vick, EJ Manuel, Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott and even Idler Arm Taylor were at least, decent looking black dudes. But when I look at Jackson, holy crap! That thing doesn't even look human! And we're supposed to believe THIS mutant will be able to play QB in the NFL? He's even uglier than the Toucan if you can believe it.

Anybody see his Heisman acceptance speech? Guy struggles to speak basic English too. Has there ever been a 0 on the Wonderlic?

Deshaun Watson is pretty damn ugly looking too. That's another thing he and Jackson share, in addition to having no chance of NFL success despite being given every possible chance to.
 
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