2017 NFL Draft

[celticdb15]

Another walk-on turned draft prospect. Ryan Glasgow

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/c...0/13/michigan-football-ryan-glasgow/92035976/

Jeremy Sprinkle is number2 TE behind Butt imo.

http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2016/...-getting-plenty-of-attention-from-nfl-scouts/

 

[Leonardfan]

Check out this total admission of the caste system by an analyst at scout.com. He doesn't mention that they ignore record setting white players every year and white players who test better than black players. What a clown.

It's been hard for a white WR, RB or any skill player to get recruited for the past 35 years.

Chad Hansen - WR - Golden Bears
Asked about Cal redshirt junior WR Chad Hansen, Scout.com national recruiting analyst Greg Biggins said: "We blew it."

"I honestly think it’s harder for a white wide receiver than it is a black quarterback to get recruited at a high level in this day and age," Biggins said. "Unless you have an extreme skill set that jumps out." Hansen wasn't a three- or four-star recruit out of Moorpark High in Ventura, Calif. No -- he was a no-star recruit with zero major college offers. "I don’t know how we missed him," said Biggins. "It was a bad evaluation on our part." Nicknamed "The Llama" by teammates because of his laid-back nature, Hansen has come out of nowhere to post 59 catches for 770 yards and eight touchdown catches. "Just the way he walks around off the football field and the way he acts is similar to a llama," QB Davis Webb said. "And then on game day, he’s a monster. It’s a light switch. He becomes the most competitive human on the face of the earth."

 

[Leonardfan]

We are just beyond the halfway point of the season. Some of the good news is that it looks as one of the caste jock sniffing media black quarterback favorites Brad Kaaya is beginning to be looked at unfavorably and a negative buzz is being generated about him. He was supposed to excel in Miami's offense under Mark Richt but has been exposed against better competition the past two weeks.

 

[Leonardfan]

Just figured I would through out some masturbatory midseason thoughts on the draft:

Looking over my initial prospect watch list back a few pages on all of the draft eligible seniors. I do not see much difference between the beginning of the season and now besides Davis Webb probably moving up draft boards and Leidner being who he thought he was going to be. The current 2018 QB class looks like it will be more highly touted if none of them decide to come out this season with junior UNC QB Mitch Trubisky rising up the ranks this year in terms of draft stock and Mason Rudolph has also really solidified himself as a 1st round pick. Both of these guys are juniors and could stay for their final seasons and be surefire 1st rounders in 2018. The two Mac QBs Cooper Rush and Zach Terrell are risers IMO. Kelly is a 1st rounder in a fair world and has done alot with not much around him. Beathard has been somewhat of a letdown (I think that can be attributed to losing Matt Vandenberg).

As far as the skill position players - WRs Ryan Switzer, Trent Taylor and Cooper Kupp should be top 100 picks. The TE position is somewhat bare with Jake Butt being projected as the third best TE in the class (which is a total joke, he is the best and most complete TE in the class). Other than Butt no other white TEs are really emerged as prospects according to the "experts". I do think George Kittle out of Iowa has a shot at being a riser as he has impressed me when I have watched Iowa during the season. At RB we have Christian McCaffrey who has had an off year with the loss of Hogan and injury issues but who knows if he is going to declare. Other than that their are some FCS white RBs like Kade Harrington and Derrick Craine but they face a huge uphill battle. Va Tech FB Sam Rogers might be a surprise come draft time as he is a pesky Jacob Hester type who is just a "football player".

 

[Tannehill17]

We are just beyond the halfway point of the season. Some of the good news is that it looks as one of the caste jock sniffing media black quarterback favorites Brad Kaaya is beginning to be looked at unfavorably and a negative buzz is being generated about him. He was supposed to excel in Miami's offense under Mark Richt but has been exposed against better competition the past two weeks.

I'm not nearly as optimistic as you are. The powers that be in the football establishment are going to force these black quarterbacks down our throats by hook or by crook. I keep hearing reports that the black quarterback trio is struggling, yet every mock draft I look at has all 3 of them going in the top 10. I really can't make any sense of this. I don't really follow college ball too much so perhaps someone on here can give their perspective on how they think this draft is going to play out. In many cases mock drafts end up being totally wrong. I hope that's the case here.

 

[celticdb15]

I'm not nearly as optimistic as you are. The powers that be in the football establishment are going to force these black quarterbacks down our throats by hook or by crook. I keep hearing reports that the black quarterback trio is struggling, yet every mock draft I look at has all 3 of them going in the top 10. I really can't make any sense of this. I don't really follow college ball too much so perhaps someone on here can give their perspective on how they think this draft is going to play out. In many cases mock drafts end up being totally wrong. I hope that's the case here.

They've been propping up black QBs for last 25 years now and they've had minimal success at the next level in the NFL. Despite almost half the 120+ teams in FBS starting black Qbs. This is just the latest wave of black Qbs "revolutionizing the position." So basically saying just ignore the hype it won't last, might take some time but these guys will be exposed. As far as them still being top10 picks despite obviously struggling just shows the media's bias.

- Lamar Jackson=RGknee clone. Better athlete than QB. Inaccurate.

-Watson, again admittedly a good athlete from a gimmicky offense. Better thrower than Jackson but still question his accuracy/turnovers

-Kizer is a joke turnover machine and sporadic passer. I think Kaaya returns to Miami for another season as he's far from polished product media thought he was.

 

[Tannehill17]

They've been propping up black QBs for last 25 years now and they've had minimal success at the next level in the NFL. Despite almost half the 120+ teams in FBS starting black Qbs. This is just the latest wave of black Qbs "revolutionizing the position." So basically saying just ignore the hype it won't last, might take some time but these guys will be exposed. As far as them still being top10 picks despite obviously struggling just shows the media's bias.

- Lamar Jackson=RGknee clone. Better athlete than QB. Inaccurate.

-Watson, again admittedly a good athlete from a gimmicky offense. Better thrower than Jackson but still question his accuracy/turnovers

-Kizer is a joke turnover machine and sporadic passer. I think Kaaya returns to Miami for another season as he's far from polished product media thought he was.

I guess the only saving grace is that if you go on sites like Walterfootball and read some of the comments underneath his mock draft, it appears some of the fans just aren't buying the idea that these are first round caliber QB's. The only question is, do NFL talent evaluators feel the same way or are they still DWF's at heart.

 

[celticdb15]

I guess the only saving grace is that if you go on sites like Walterfootball and read some of the comments underneath his mock draft, it appears some of the fans just aren't buying the idea that these are first round caliber QB's. The only question is, do NFL talent evaluators feel the same way or are they still DWF's at heart.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out. At one point Tajh Boyd was considered a 1st rd pick so much for that theory! As Leonardfan mentioned the hype for these guys has already cooled quite a bit from what it was beginning of the year.

 

[Leonardfan]

I guess the only saving grace is that if you go on sites like Walterfootball and read some of the comments underneath his mock draft, it appears some of the fans just aren't buying the idea that these are first round caliber QB's. The only question is, do NFL talent evaluators feel the same way or are they still DWF's at heart.

The second half of the season still has to play out. The "experts" are grasping for straws when it comes to trying to explain the short comings of their beloved black quarterbacks so far this season. Last year at this time Carson Wentz and Paxton Lynch were not yet being talked up as 1st round picks so it will be interesting to see which one of our guys may rise up during the second half of the season and heading into the draft season. I try my best not to project underclassmen until they officially declare.

Here is a pretty decent article on Luke Falk who could be one of those risers. Good read and entertaining with quotes from the eccentric Mike Leach regarding the Air Raid system and the NFL offenses.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/10/19/nfl-draft-2017-luke-falk-washington-state-air-raid-qbs

 

[celticdb15]

The second half of the season still has to play out. The "experts" are grasping for straws when it comes to trying to explain the short comings of their beloved black quarterbacks so far this season. Last year at this time Carson Wentz and Paxton Lynch were not yet being talked up as 1st round picks so it will be interesting to see which one of our guys may rise up during the second half of the season and heading into the draft season. I try my best not to project underclassmen until they officially declare.

Here is a pretty decent article on Luke Falk who could be one of those risers. Good read and entertaining with quotes from the eccentric Mike Leach regarding the Air Raid system and the NFL offenses.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/10/19/nfl-draft-2017-luke-falk-washington-state-air-raid-qbs

Enjoyed that article. Falk, Davis, and Trubitsky are all benefiting from some of the subpar play from the hyped AAQBs, hopefully they can keep it up!

 

[Leonardfan]

I mentioned Brady Gustafson back in April (before all the "experts" caught on) on this site. I have not watched any of his games this year and probably won't be able to until the FCS playoffs if Montana makes it. However it does look like he is having a strong senior campaign. His stats thus far are 199 comp/302 att 2195 yards, 22 tds, 5 ints. Last week he was named to the FCS Offensive Player of the year watch list. With a strong finish to the season, a senior bowl invite and combine invite he may be one of the "unknown" QBs to climb up the draft rankings like Wentz, Lynch and Bortles before him in recent years. The Carson Wentz effect can only help IMO.

 

[Leonardfan]

Just an observation - all of the "experts" from CBS Sports, BleacherReport, Pauline put out weekly prospect notes and it almost seems like it is a concerted effort to not mention white players at all. It seems to be much worse than years past.

 

[celticdb15]

Just an observation - all of the "experts" from CBS Sports, BleacherReport, Pauline put out weekly prospect notes and it almost seems like it is a concerted effort to not mention white players at all. It seems to be much worse than years past.

Not to mention they all focus on the same select group of prospects! Rarely do they go outside the box(lesser known/small school prospects)with their "scouting"

**Was surprised to read Dane Brugler call Jack Cichy a future 1st rd LB after his performance against Buckeyes. High praise from this anti white draft dweeb. It's too bad he tore his pectoral, but apparently he's squarely on radar as a top LB kn next year's draft.

 

[Tannehill17]

Every time I see Watson, Kaaya or Kizer mocked to the Dolphins I want to punch a wall. I don't blame people for mocking them to the Dolphins because Tannehill does have a few question marks, but notice once the line actually decides to block for him, he's been highly effective. The Fins biggest needs are at RG, CB, DE, and DT. I just don't see the hype with Watson, Kaaya, or Kizer as top ten picks, other than the fact that they're black. Kizer especially. The dude is completing less than 60% of his passes and is in danger of being benched. That's Blaine Gabbert territory in terms of completion percentage.

 

[white is right]

Well the experts finally decided the emperor had no clothes when it comes to Kizer has he has slipped badly to the edge of the first round or the second round(it's still to high for a qb of his quality). It looks like Trubisky has risen to the top qb of this class. Kizer's fall has been slow and gradual, first he was the number one pick overall(laughable), then he was the first quarterback, now he is free falling out of the first round.....http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2017/QB

 

[Tannehill17]

Well the experts finally decided the emperor had no clothes when it comes to Kizer has he has slipped badly to the edge of the first round or the second round(it's still to high for a qb of his quality). It looks like Trubisky has risen to the top qb of this class. Kizer's fall has been slow and gradual, first he was the number one pick overall(laughable), then he was the first quarterback, now he is free falling out of the first round.....http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2017/QB

The Kizer hype is entirely fictitious. These same caste stooges that hyped Geno Smiff to the moon despite no actual NFL teams being high on him.

 

[Leonardfan]

Well the experts finally decided the emperor had no clothes when it comes to Kizer has he has slipped badly to the edge of the first round or the second round(it's still to high for a qb of his quality). It looks like Trubisky has risen to the top qb of this class. Kizer's fall has been slow and gradual, first he was the number one pick overall(laughable), then he was the first quarterback, now he is free falling out of the first round.....http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2017/QB

The so called draft "experts" are anything but. Year after year they make predictions about players that never come true. The piss poor NFL product is proof positive that these ******** don't know what they are talking about and on top of that they don't need to - no credibility is needed and they just move on to the next year without having to answer for all of the misses they made the year prior. They are just "journalists" spewing out an agenda just like their mainstream counterparts who try to mold, cultivate and present the false reality to society on a daily basis.

Not that it means much but I plan on going to war with all of these experts this year during draft season as well as the NFL teams as well via Twitter. I figure it is better than nothing and maybe it will catch the attention of others who see what we see but stay silent.

 

[icsept]

Every year I point out the absurdity of "draft experts" who supposedly analyze thousands of players and somehow independently arrive at the exact same top 10 or however many and then act like they're arguing over the order. The "experts" lay the groundwork for the rigged draft and then the teams select from the prepackaged list of "draftworthy" players. After the draft, each team is judged by how many of the "top rated" players they managed to select. No GM would dare go outside the box other than to select a "4th round talent" in the 3rd round, or vice versa.

But teams want to win, so only the best players get selected...just like our political system, only the cream rises to the top, lol.

 

[Leonardfan]

SI has been churning out the most readable scouting/draft articles out of any of the major websites thus far. Here is a pretty good article chronicling Chad Kelly's winding college career. He addresses his mistakes, seems to be honest and looks intent at moving forward with his career at the next level. I liked his uncle - the former Bills great Jim Kelly's comments as well. Graham Glasgow's commentary about his brother Ryan is also a good read. Suprisingly enough they are also highly complementary of Florida LB Alex Anzalone.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/10/26/nfl-draft-2017-chad-kelly-ole-miss-quarterback-red-flags-field

 

[Leonardfan]

Gentlemen,

Just like clockwork the first "expert" has jumped off the black quarterback train for this year and it is none other than Mel Kiper stating that Mitch Trubisky is his pick for the best QB prospect in the 2017 draft. This comes as no surprise to us who all know the score when it comes to bogus black quarterback hype jobs. I don't think Trubisky will commit after this season but if he does I expect his stock to rise. If not look for him and Mason Rudolph (who could also declare this year) to be the top two quarterbacks in 2018. It's great to see the season play out and these experts jump ship on their beloved black QBs when the results on the field don't match the hype.

http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2016/...nas-mitch-trubisky-top-qb-for-2017-nfl-draft/

 

[celticdb15]

I read an article recently where crazy Jim Harbaugh predicted double digit Wolverines will be drafted. I'm hot and cold on Harbaugh, I think he's a spazz, but obviously a good coach and recruiter. Normally I'd roll my eyes at a comment like this but quite a few of these Wolverines are white athletes(Butt,Glasgow, Gideon) of top of my head. Something to pay attention to come draft season.

 

[celticdb15]

South Dakota State WR Jake Wieneke getting some positive press! This writer believes he's the next FCS prodigy.. We'll see but between him and Kupp that's 2 big athletic outside FCS WRs generating draft buzz.


http://nflmocks.com/2016/10/27/jake-wieneke-next-big-fcs-star-enter-nfl/

 

[TwentyTwo]

The second half of the season still has to play out. The "experts" are grasping for straws....Last year at this time Carson Wentz and Paxton Lynch were not yet being talked up as 1st round picks so it will be interesting to see which one of our guys may rise up during the second half of the season and heading into the draft season. I try my best not to project underclassmen until they officially declare.

THIS!!! Exactly what i was thinking! A long time between now & next April....no one this time last year had Wentz or Lynch anywhere near the 1st Round....The fact these so-called experts consider the pedestrian Brad Kaaya at #3 ahead of Chad Kelly is completely laughable....

Seth Russell 6'-3" 220...4.6 with 41" Vertical should be Rising up the Charts in time for April.... the scare with neck injury would be only thing holding him back

Wisconsin OT Ryan Ramczyk should land in the 1st Round with his crazy journey is probably the Most Athletic O-Lineman in CFB

 

[celticdb15]

Westerkamp with a big catch and run off of a wobbly pass from Armstrong. He was Corraled by Musso, got up gimpy.

 

[La France Blanche]

Quite an improvement from Deshaun and Deshone. I can imagine hordes of anti-white writers just waiting to put those names to blackworship song, Da Deshaun N' Deshone Sho', especially since last year's draft started out as the Jared, Carson, and Joey Show.