2015 NFL Draft

[Twinkle Toes]

Garrett Grayson and Ty Sambrailo both have received invites to the Senior Bowl:

http://www.csurams.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/112914aab.html

Just my 2 cents. In a caste free world Varga goes in the first round Zenner in the third but in the real world Varga goes in the 5th and Zenner gets cut early as a free agent signing.

 

[Leonardfan]

Just my 2 cents. In a caste free world Varga goes in the first round Zenner in the third but in the real world Varga goes in the 5th and Zenner gets cut early as a free agent signing.

Zenner reminds me of Bernard on the Bengas - a three down back equally dangerous in the passing and running game. I hope somehow both of these guys defy the system that is stacked against them and are drafted fairly high and become contributors to teams next year.

 

[Leonardfan]

The senior bowl made 16 more roster invites today. Ty Sambrailo and Rob Havenstein where the only white players announced in this group. They did invite a white long snapper as well - yippee.

Garrett Grayson was not announced this week, I am assuming that the link i posted was correct so they are probably waiting to announce it formally.

This looks to be just another total coal fest only 2 white defensive players announced so far, no white skill position players either out of 63 players announced to date. No one with a straight face can say the playas getting invites are all worthy of an invitation.

Phil savage seems to have become the person who makes decisions on the invites and is running the senior bowl. He was a bust as Gm with the browns but now appears to serve the eagles in some capacity scouting the southeast (surprise surprise because that's where all dat upside exists).

The whole draft process is such a farce and essentially just the icing on the cake of the caste system. "Scouting" is essentially just throwing out racial stereotypes, making up arbitrary words like upside for supposed personnel experts/scouts to use as a crutch when they get a player wrong (which they do more often then not) and speaking in cliches.

The only tangible things used when drafting a player are 40 time and arm length. The only intangible they use is upside/potential. I wonder how many scouts and gm's feel like ******** because they passed over Chris Borland this year.

Minimal stock is put into productivity at the college level. No stock is put into the most important tangible of all which is instinct (all white defensive players are described to have this) If a white player runs a tenth of a second slower or has an arm length an 1/8th of an inch shorter they are ignored. When a white player puts up a huge number of bench reps at the combine it is attributed to incorrect technique or having short arms. The agility tests are widely discarded.

It's the same bull**** year after year. The best players do not get invites to the senior bowl or the combine, their pro days mean nothing and blacks get drafted based solely on skin color.

 

[woody39]

The senior bowl made 16 more roster invites today. Ty Sambrailo and Rob Havenstein where the only white players announced in this group. They did invite a white long snapper as well - yippee.

Garrett Grayson was not announced this week, I am assuming that the link i posted was correct so they are probably waiting to announce it formally.

This looks to be just another total coal fest only 2 white defensive players announced so far, no white skill position players either out of 63 players announced to date. No one with a straight face can say the playas getting invites are all worthy of an invitation.

Phil savage seems to have become the person who makes decisions on the invites and is running the senior bowl. He was a bust as Gm with the browns but now appears to serve the eagles in some capacity scouting the southeast (surprise surprise because that's where all dat upside exists).

The whole draft process is such a farce and essentially just the icing on the cake of the caste system. "Scouting" is essentially just throwing out racial stereotypes, making up arbitrary words like upside for supposed personnel experts/scouts to use as a crutch when they get a player wrong (which they do more often then not) and speaking in cliches.

The only tangible things used when drafting a player are 40 time and arm length. The only intangible they use is upside/potential. I wonder how many scouts and gm's feel like ******** because they passed over Chris Borland this year.

Minimal stock is put into productivity at the college level. No stock is put into the most important tangible of all which is instinct (all white defensive players are described to have this) If a white player runs a tenth of a second slower or has an arm length an 1/8th of an inch shorter they are ignored. When a white player puts up a huge number of bench reps at the combine it is attributed to incorrect technique or having short arms. The agility tests are widely discarded.

It's the same bull**** year after year. The best players do not get invites to the senior bowl or the combine, their pro days mean nothing and blacks get drafted based solely on skin color.

http://www.csurams.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/112914aab.html Rams website says he is in both senior bowl and east west shrine mate so fingers crossed.

Your right about the poor numbers of whites but i dont know l as much about college football as you so i dont know whether alot of high profile players that are mentioned on here in the weekly threads are not eligible because there juniors etc.

Is nelson spruce a senior??

 

[Leonardfan]

http://www.csurams.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/112914aab.html Rams website says he is in both senior bowl and east west shrine mate so fingers crossed.

Your right about the poor numbers of whites but i dont know l as much about college football as you so i dont know whether alot of high profile players that are mentioned on here in the weekly threads are not eligible because there juniors etc.

Is nelson spruce a senior??

Spruce is a junior.

Here are skill position guys that deserve invites:
Matt Miller WR Boise St - assuming he is recovered from injury.
Jaxon Shipley WR Texas
J.J. Worton WR UCF
Jordan Taylor WR Rice...
Michael Bennett WR Georgia
Zach Laskey RB Ga Tech
Mark Weisman RB Iowa

 

[Extra Point]

The whole draft process is such a farce and essentially just the icing on the cake of the caste system. "Scouting" is essentially just throwing out racial stereotypes, making up arbitrary words like upside for supposed personnel experts/scouts to use as a crutch when they get a player wrong (which they do more often then not) and speaking in cliches.

The only tangible things used when drafting a player are 40 time and arm length. The only intangible they use is upside/potential. I wonder how many scouts and gm's feel like ******** because they passed over Chris Borland this year.

Minimal stock is put into productivity at the college level. No stock is put into the most important tangible of all which is instinct (all white defensive players are described to have this) If a white player runs a tenth of a second slower or has an arm length an 1/8th of an inch shorter they are ignored. When a white player puts up a huge number of bench reps at the combine it is attributed to incorrect technique or having short arms. The agility tests are widely discarded.

It's the same bull**** year after year. The best players do not get invites to the senior bowl or the combine, their pro days mean nothing and blacks get drafted based solely on skin color.

True.

One of the classic tactics of the anti-whites is to say things such as "He doesn't play as fast as he times."

For example, when Luke Kuechly came out they were saying he was slow. When Kuechly showed he was very fast at the combine they started saying, you guessed it, "He doesn't play as fast as he times."

Whites are seen as slow and unathletic and nothing a white man does will alter this viewpoint in the minds of the anti-whites.

 

[Riddlewire]

Spruce is a junior.

Here are skill position guys that deserve invites:
Matt Miller WR Boise St - assuming he is recovered from injury.
Jaxon Shipley WR Texas
J.J. Worton WR UCF
Jordan Taylor WR Rice...
Michael Bennett WR Georgia
Zach Laskey RB Ga Tech
Mark Weisman RB Iowa

If Jimmy Garoppolo was the engine that made the train run at Eastern Illinois (as NFL types believe due to his high draft position), then what does that say about now SR WR Adam Drake, who lost not only his elite quarterback, but also his entire coaching staff (HC replaced by career defensive coordinator), and still had a huge season for the Panthers?

Adam finished 2014 with 93 catches for 1,321 yards (14.2avg) and 12TDs.

His career numbers:
202 rec, 2979 yards (14.75 avg), 26 TDs

I'm not sure any FCS player is more deserving of an invite than Adam Drake.

 

[Leonardfan]

If Jimmy Garoppolo was the engine that made the train run at Eastern Illinois (as NFL types believe due to his high draft position), then what does that say about now SR WR Adam Drake, who lost not only his elite quarterback, but also his entire coaching staff (HC replaced by career defensive coordinator), and still had a huge season for the Panthers?

Adam finished 2014 with 93 catches for 1,321 yards (14.2avg) and 12TDs.

His career numbers:
202 rec, 2979 yards (14.75 avg), 26 TDs

I'm not sure any FCS player is more deserving of an invite than Adam Drake.

Nice find Riddlewire. I have to plead ignorance as I have never heard of him. He should be right in the conversation with Zenner and Varga as Fcs players that should be viewed as high draft prospects.

 

[Extra Point]

If Jimmy Garoppolo was the engine that made the train run at Eastern Illinois (as NFL types believe due to his high draft position), then what does that say about now SR WR Adam Drake, who lost not only his elite quarterback, but also his entire coaching staff (HC replaced by career defensive coordinator), and still had a huge season for the Panthers?

Adam finished 2014 with 93 catches for 1,321 yards (14.2avg) and 12TDs.

His career numbers:
202 rec, 2979 yards (14.75 avg), 26 TDs

I'm not sure any FCS player is more deserving of an invite than Adam Drake.

I looked up Adam Drake and he had a good season in 2013, too, with 85 catches, 5th in the NCAA in yardage.

Based on production he should go in the first 3 rounds of the draft.

I wonder if he'll go undrafted. Look what happened to Connor Vernon.

 

[Leonardfan]

I looked up Adam Drake and he had a good season in 2013, too, with 85 catches, 5th in the NCAA in yardage.

Based on production he should go in the first 3 rounds of the draft.

I wonder if he'll go undrafted. Look what happened to Connor Vernon.

I noticed that Vernon's undersized black teammate Crowder received a senior bowl invite. Vernon was the more prolific wr at duke over his career yet he was screwed over during the draft process.

 

[celticdb15]

Worton tore his acl! Damn it no.combine for him if he even were to receive an invite.

 

[Leonardfan]

Worton tore his acl! Damn it no.combine for him if he even were to receive an invite.

Damn that sucks. I hope Miller is recovering ok from his surgery. I think he is the closest thing to Jordy Nelson since Jordy himself was a prospect.

 

[Leonardfan]

Sounds like white Yale Rb Tyler Varga got a senior bowl invite. That's going to get him such great exposure prior to the draft. They need to invite Laskey and Zenner. Zenner is probably one of the best and most dominant players in all of college football and has the most complete body of work over his career to back it up.

 

[woody39]

I thought a quick breakdown of invitees for the senior bowl thus far might be useful

Of the 62 announced so far

Quarterbacks 1 from 1 : Shane Carden East Carolina University (4309 yards 2nd in the FBS 28TD 8INT)

Running Backs 0 from 3

Wide Recievers 0 from 10

Tight Ends 1 from 2 : Nick Boyle Delaware (From Division 2 of College Football could be a draft riser)

Offensive Lineman 5 from 8 : Reese Dismukes Auburn (Centre), Jake Fisher Oregon (Tackle - Only going third round in some mocks but has been excellent at both left and right tackle protecting Mariota could be a riser in the draft process), Hronis Grassu Oregon (Centre), Rob Haverstein Wisconsin (Tackle), Ty Sambrailo Colorado State (Tackle)

Defensive Lineman 1 from 14 : Louis Trinca Pasat Iowa (Defensive Tackle)

Linebackers 1 from 6 : Mike Hull Penn State (Outside Linebacker - 134 tackles 2 sacks 10 TFL and 1 Interception One of the best linebackers in college football)

Safeties 0 from 7

Cornerbacks 0 from 9

Specialists 2 from 2 : Joe Cardona Navy (Long Snapper) and Andrew East Vanderblit (Long Snapper)


Total 62 players so far and no white running back, wide reciever or safety selected yet. I guess the number will go up with the QB nominations but it sits at 11 whites from 62 and which sits at a pitiful 17% of the attendees.

 

[Average American]

I've been a fan of Old Dominion's QB Taylor Heinicke. His game reminds me a lot of Manziel & Fran Tarkenton. Found this article, which I think is basically a fair overview of Heinicke's career & future (he's currently ranked as the #9 QB prospect).
http://www.maceandcrown.com/2014/11/19/taylor-heinicke-fcs-nfl/

He has great legs, an accurate pass, & field awareness, but the level of competition ODU faces makes it kind of difficult to evaluate his skills against the highest level..

Looked @ his stats against bigger programs this season:
vs. NC State- 274 yards, 71% completion, 2 TDs and 1 pick
vs. La. Tech- 300+ yards, 72% completion, but 4 picks
vs. Marshall (where ODU got stomped)- 40% completion, 1 touchdown and 1 pick..

I'm thinking/hoping he can come in as a reliable back-up, and develop from there, any thoughts (?)

 

[celticdb15]

I've been a fan of Old Dominion's QB Taylor Heinicke. His game reminds me a lot of Manziel & Fran Tarkenton. Found this article, which I think is basically a fair overview of Heinicke's career & future (he's currently ranked as the #9 QB prospect).
http://www.maceandcrown.com/2014/11/19/taylor-heinicke-fcs-nfl/

He has great legs, an accurate pass, & field awareness, but the level of competition ODU faces makes it kind of difficult to evaluate his skills against the highest level..

Looked @ his stats against bigger programs this season:
vs. NC State- 274 yards, 71% completion, 2 TDs and 1 pick
vs. La. Tech- 300+ yards, 72% completion, but 4 picks
vs. Marshall (where ODU got stomped)- 40% completion, 1 touchdown and 1 pick..

I'm thinking/hoping he can come in as a reliable back-up, and develop from there, any thoughts (?)

He's a stud I'd take him as a developmental prospect any day. I've heard he still might get a senior bowl invite which would be great exposure!! As for scouts knocking his lack of competition, its not his fault bigger schools didn't covet him. Can't tell MD that either Virginia or VA Tech couldn't have his used skills but were to ignorant to offer a scholarship.

 

[Leonardfan]

The Senior Bowl announced 11 more invites. Only 3 are white - 2 O-linemen and Tyler Varga who is listed as Fullback. How can it not be so painfully obvious to the average fan of the racial slotting that takes place? Varga is a 6'0 220 lb running back who had a great season and has a ton of athletic ability yet that caste stooge phil savage is trying to pigeonhole him in at fullback.

 

[celticdb15]

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The Senior Bowl announced 11 more invites. Only 3 are white - 2 O-linemen and Tyler Varga who is listed as Fullback. How can it not be so painfully obvious to the average fan of the racial slotting that takes place? Varga is a 6'0 220 lb running back who had a great season and has a ton of athletic ability yet that caste stooge phil savage is trying to pigeonhole him in at fullback.[/QUOTE

Screw The senior bowl! Not going to bother watching that black panther fest! Oldest trick in caste whores book is to list big white rbs as fullbacks...

 

[TwentyTwo]

Despite rushing for OVER 2,000 yards THREE CONSECUTIVE seasons!!
RB Zach Zenner 5'-11" 220 is pegged as the #3 Fullback by so-called experts from NFL Draft Scout; What a complete JOKE!!! And project him to go Round 6 or 7...

Zach Laskey at 6'-1" only 218 (Georgia Tech) is also listed as a Fullback (#14th)....Can't even find Tyler Varga....about same size as Zenner...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/FB

The Top 30 Fullbacks on this list easily weigh an average of about 240-245lbs....Yet the 2 LIGHTEST players listed by far are at 218 & 220 are BOTH WHITE! Sure it's all just some big coincidence huh:icon_confused: Yet some RB's(non FB's) on the list weigh 229, 238, 232, etc

Also the LUMBERING Ron Dayne at 5'-10" 245 & Jerome Bettis (250) were NEVER technically listed as Fullbacks...but Running Backs instead....If they had been more pale no doubt the would have been listed as Fullbacks too!

As far as RB's are concerned(according to NFL Draft Scout)...Cam McDaniel is so far down the list at #65 it looks doubtful he'd even get a spot as a undrafted rookie-free agent in training camp. Listed at 5'-9" 207 all he would have to do is gain 10lbs and i'm sure Draft Scout would find a place for him at Fullback...what a JOKE!

 

[BeyondFedUp]

Despite rushing for OVER 2,000 yards THREE CONSECUTIVE seasons!!
RB Zach Zenner 5'-11" 220 is pegged as the #3 Fullback by so-called experts from NFL Draft Scout; What a complete JOKE!!! And project him to go Round 6 or 7...

Zach Laskey at 6'-1" only 218 (Georgia Tech) is also listed as a Fullback (#14th)....Can't even find Tyler Varga....about same size as Zenner...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/FB

The Top 30 Fullbacks on this list easily weigh an average of about 240-245lbs....Yet the 2 LIGHTEST players listed by far are at 218 & 220 are BOTH WHITE! Sure it's all just some big coincidence huh:icon_confused: Yet some RB's(non FB's) on the list weigh 229, 238, 232, etc

Also the LUMBERING Ron Dayne at 5'-10" 245 & Jerome Bettis (250) were NEVER technically listed as Fullbacks...but Running Backs instead....If they had been more pale no doubt the would have been listed as Fullbacks too!

As far as RB's are concerned(according to NFL Draft Scout)...Cam McDaniel is so far down the list at #65 it looks doubtful he'd even get a spot as a undrafted rookie-free agent in training camp. Listed at 5'-9" 207 all he would have to do is gain 10lbs and i'm sure Draft Scout would find a place for him at Fullback...what a JOKE!

Zach Zenner should be a Top 10 draft choice. Nobody can touch him in his consistent butt-kicking running and he is overlooked and dismissed entirely because he is White. Screw the NFL and their "experts", and screw the College system that also weeds out great, and I mean great White players coming out of H.S. loaded with potential at every single position. Heck, I won't even be watching the "final four" because it is entirely a fraud, with black quarterbacks starting for all four teams. What a lying sham agenda.

This is one godless, anti-White Caste system.

 

[dwid]

yeah its all a joke the "talent" they wind up drafting, go look at the draft 3 years and 4 years ago, most of those guys stink. They have no problem picking up a small school kid that is black. Teams that are majority White, teams will pick up the one black guy on the team. They do it for FBS too, like Boise St back in the day.

They will use competition against Zenner, but Melvin Gordon who everyone is hyped up about, only got stopped one game so far, it was against Western Illinois, an FCS team, not even a powerhouse like the teams SDSU has to face (NDSU being the main one), they held him to 38 yards on 17 carries. 2.2 ypc.

 

[Leonardfan]

yeah its all a joke the "talent" they wind up drafting, go look at the draft 3 years and 4 years ago, most of those guys stink. They have no problem picking up a small school kid that is black. Teams that are majority White, teams will pick up the one black guy on the team. They do it for FBS too, like Boise St back in the day.

They will use competition against Zenner, but Melvin Gordon who everyone is hyped up about, only got stopped one game so far, it was against Western Illinois, an FCS team, not even a powerhouse like the teams SDSU has to face (NDSU being the main one), they held him to 38 yards on 17 carries. 2.2 ypc.

Level of competition is only a negative if the player is white.

For example - WR Donatella Lockett received an invite today from Harding Unversity. This is the note they have on him: Has 23 receptions for 602 yds and 5 tds in a run oriented offense (the best year of his career). Wow so a great YPC and is overaged for a draft prospect at 24 years old, has mediocre production at a small school over a career that goes back to 2011 - 1625 yds and 15 TDs over his whole career but he is of course more than worthy to get invited to the senior bowl. However Matt Miller and Jordan Taylor are not even worthy of invite and are considered fringe prospects. Every year it becomes more and more obvious what is really going on.

Let's not forget Devon Cajuste who has a great size/speed ratio playing in a run heavy Stanford offense. He managed 30 catches for 510 yds with 4 TDs for 17 ypc playing in the PAC 12. Last season he had 28 receptions for 642 yds and 5 tds with a YPC of 22.93. I guess those number's are not that impressive for a white WR.

 

[celticdb15]

Scooby wins Nagurski award!

 

[Leonardfan]

Scooby wins Nagurski award!

Finally a little good news. Should be in the college football section though since Scooby is only a sophomore and not draft eligible. C'mon Celtic you should know better! Lol jk

 

[celticdb15]

Finally a little good news. Should be in the college football section though since Scooby is only a sophomore and not draft eligible. C'mon Celtic you should know better! Lol jk

Lol my bad!! You're right though. Scooby does have potential as a 1st rd pick for the 2016 draft!