2010 NFL Draft

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Chad Kackert, RB New Hampshire, signs FA contract with Jaguars.
Congrats, but... ugh. No chance he'll ever play for them.
 

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Thanks for the website! Props to the Falcons Draft + FA signings too..

Still waiting to hear...Sharp & McCarthy

What's up with the Eagles with the WR's?? Hope they give them a fair chance...

Wonder where Kevin Curtis will land??

Blair White can easily Hank Baskett...

LB-Jacob Cutrera to the Jags

Disapointed in Packers draft..FA's Zombo & Knicky could make some noise!
 
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To be fair to ol' Porky Reid, he did draft Jeremy Bloom one year(didnt give him much of a chance to develop, but he did draft him), signed Kevin Curtis, drafted Riley Cooper, and signed 3 FA WRs.
Thats6 more whiteWRs than 90% of the NFL teams are willing to sign...

But he does LOOOOOVE his black, sumo lineman, let me tell you!!!

Blair White, Im sure, had a lot of FA offers. Even the Caste pundits were suprised he wasnt drafted. He probably figured his best shot was with Colts, who have a relatively white friendly offense. If he doesnt catch on there, he ll get a "chance"(AKA5th WR/WSTD)somewhere I bet
 
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Don Wassall said:
Deadlift said:
You mentioned before how you met some NFL players, and that they weren't "larger than life" - they weren't giants. You said that you were next to a Center that was short and had a fat stomach, something like that? Do you have more stories?
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<div>I saw Hines Ward at a baseball card show.  He was average sized, and he's regarded as maybe the toughest wide receiver in the NFL.</div>
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<div>Saw a bunch of black Steelers once at a club.  Very unimposing physically, other than the 400 pound blubberball Casey Hampton.  RB Duce Staley was short and chubby, the d-backs were short and scrawny.  Certainly didn't look like the "world's best athletes" to me.  Or does that honor go to black NBA players?</div>

I saw Vince Young two weeks ago. He was traveling on the "Titan Caravan" which stopped at a Kroger store for an autograph session. Young is a big man, every bit 6-4.

I met Benny Perrin, a (White) Cardinal safety from 1982-85. It was about a dozen years ago at a restaurant Perrin owned. He talked to me a few minutes, Walter Payton was the best RB he ever faced, next was John Riggins whom he said was a good friend, and then Earl Campbell. Benny Perrin was listed at 6-2, 180. He looked to be still at his playing weight when I met him some 10 years after his football career.

I knew slightly a black man who was on the Steeler taxi squad in 1976. He was an undersized DT. Another black man (I worked for the same big corporation) I met, Macdonald Oden, was a backup TE in the NFL and started in the USFL. Oden was around 6-3 and yes, physically imposing.

I saw Billy Cannon (then 64 years old), Bo Jackson, and Eddie George at a card show. Bo was standing next to Eddie George, who towered over him. I told a man that Billy Cannon was a bigger star in his day than Bo Jackson was in his. This shocked him.
 

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Gotta give props to Mike Tomlin and Kevin Colbert for taking the Steelers in such an anti-caste direction. Through the draft and PFAs, they had the guts and courage to draft/sign one white player, A.J. Trump, the white tackle out of The U. Congrats guys!

Also, DT John Fletcher was signed by Baltimore, and LB Kyle Bosworth was scooped up by Jax.

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It was another disastrous draft for White players, but a good one for the site -- almost 11,000 views and counting in just2 days for this thread. Pretty impressive.
 

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I think there are a number of NFL teams that will be facing real trouble if they don't improve soon.


I would watch Kansas City, St. Louis, Oakland, Seattle, Buffalo and Jacksonville closely.

Cinci might or might not screw our guys, but, either way, I think last season was a fluke. I could be wrong.

Detroit: Hopefully, Stafford can stay healthy and perform well, but he's in a pretty bad situation. Will the Lions' "defense" even show up?
 

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Was just checking back on my draft ranking list (edited it for grammar) and saw that 6 of the 8 white WRs I had in my top 20 were drafted. I hope somehow that these following undrafted white offensive skill players (that I value as a 4th/5th round picks or above) make a team's roster this year as UFAs:
WR: Blair White (#7 WR), Chris McGaha (#13 WR), Kevin Jurovich (#22 WR), Bryan Anderson (#25 WR)
RB: Jake Sharp (#9 RB)

I'd have to disagree with some of you guys on your scouting of Dexter McCluster. As a RB- HE IS NOT AS GOOD as Toby. McCluster is small, but McCluster could be a potentially great slot WR- who brings versatility to run the ball as well. McCluster has some Welker like qualities to his game- as far as elite short area quickness. He can be a situational ball carrier. I had McCluster as my 8th best WR!

A very disappointing draft overall. I'm even a little disappointed in the WR situation- since this was supposed to be "the year of the white WR". I had 13 or 14 white WRs on my board as guys who should have been drafted.
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We seem to want to adopt a team that we think is somewhat on "our side" -- and I think that that's where a lot of the disappointment comes from.

For instance, the Patriots' could have drafted Blair White or Riley Cooper, but they drafted mulatto Taylor Price instead. There isn't really a trend of any teams' getting Whiter.

Also, I'm just as suspicious as some other posters when dark-as-night teams draft a White receiver. If a team is pretty much black at every position, can they really be trusted?... Why do they "suddenly" draft a White?
 

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Haven't heard any news on Sharp yet. The situation is pathetic! Sharp had a productive jr. season- as an all purpose threat- in the Big 12. Even though he only got the starting RB job for the last 8 games that yr. he had 1,100 all purpose yards and averaged almost 6 YPC down the final stretch. AND if you want to talk about guys who blaze the track (and impress on film and in agility drills)- well here you go.Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
 

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Glad to hear that Rose got signed, he will be a great player if he's given half a chance.
 

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celticdb15 said:
One white drafted for the Packers. They started off the draft good but quickly back tracked to cover their butts. I can't believe Mariani and Toone were drafted over Blair White and McGaha. Go figure, neither of them attended the combine but were picked ahead of guys who went to Arizona State and Michigan State? Someone mentioned before that the NFL deliberately cuts out the best white players and signs lesser known\skilled white players on purpose. It may have some truth..
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<div>Hopefully some of our guys can catch on as UDFA, if they want to play in this league they'll have to be persistent as hell and go through a lot of highs and lows. </div>

I think Mariani was taken because Coach Fisher of the Titans is very familiar with him since Fisher's boy plays for UM. Mariani is an excellent receiver and special teams guy. Today, I read a story that Mariani is not very fast or quick. Try telling that to all those black corners he burned for the past 2 seasons. Very impressive player, but you wouldn't know if you haven't watched him play every week. You can be assured that Fisher saw ALOT of Mariani. I follow UM football, so I saw him play almost every game last year. Since I went to ASU, I also follow ASU football, too, but not as much in the past because of what I've seen of them over the past few years. Personally, I think Mariani is a better player than McGaha, but McGaha is also a very good, dependable receiver and could easily make it the NFL if given a decent chance. But, the 2 M's are making the big mistake of playing white in a very black league at this point.
 

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A few more anecdotes I'd forgotten. Redskins WR Roy Jefferson used to live down the street from me when I was a teenager. Don't remember him as being physically imposing at all, but his love of pot was what we all paid attention to. A bunch of my friends got high with him a couple of times. Also, we laughed at the fact that he had no curtains hanging in the windows of his large house- instead using sheets! I was up close and personal with some Redskins' players who played in a charity basketball game at my high school in the early '70s. Chris Hanburger (9 time Pro Bowler who is somehow not in the HOF) was pretty muscular but not big, Jack Pardee was not imposing at all, backup TE Mack Alston looked kind of pudgy and RB Larry Brown looked like an average sized guy (I saw him again some years later, when he gave a speech, and he was even less impressive physically and also very unfriendly to everyone).

When we went to Redskins Park during the strike of '87, my buddy (who was a star high school RB) was more physically imposing than the vast majority of players, at 6 ft., 250 pounds. Most of the players seemed intimidated by him (I think they thought he was a replacement player). Jeff Bostic, listed at 6'2, 265 or so, was about my size (5'9, 175), but with a big gut. Injured kicker Jeff Atkinson looked like a 12 year old, as he sat in a lounge chair, waited on hand and foot by idiotic DWFs. LB Rich Milot was tall, but very thin and unathletic looking. LB Neil Olkewicz was shorter than me and a little chubby. Gary Clark, Darrell Green and the rest of the WRs/DBs were small and frail. I don't know how they could survive all those allegedly bone-crushing hits.

On a side note, I met a lot more Washington Capitals NHL players up close, and their sizes were really exagerated. Few of them looked like athletes at all. Also, ex-Duke guard Tommy Ammaker is really small in person. Not sure what he was listed at, but it had to be greatly exagerated. Finally, I met ex-Redskins smurf WR Virgil Seay numerous times. He is not only one of the surliest guys (can't imagine what a jerk he'd be if he'd had any kind of memorable career), but incredibly small. If that guy could play in the NFL, and survive all those bone-crushing hits, then no one at any size could ever be considered too small. Btw, his very nice wife told me, in a conversation we had, that the NFL pension was such a gold mine that Virgil's only job was as a wide receivers coach at a local high school. This guy barely played long enough to qualify for it.

Even at that time (1980s), no team had employed a white WR as tiny as Alvin Garrett, Seay or Gary Clark for many years (Tommy McDonald is the only white WR of comparable size I can think of). Obviously, there have been countless other black "smurf" types during the same time frame.
 

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Highlander said:
Kackert ran a very sick 4.31 40 at Pro Day.http://www.theunionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=UNH%27s+Kackert+signs%3B+Sicko+to+call+it+a+career&articleId=e00e170d-c040-4b66-8734-10e81768e7cd"The Jaguars, he said, plan to give him a shot as kick and punt returner
and as a third-down back in long yardage situations. He'll go there on
Friday for a mini-camp next weekend."
Again, if Kackert was black and ran a 4.31, he would've been drafted.

How do you run a 4.31 and not get drafted?

How many 40 times were faster than his?
 

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Toby Hillis said:
To be fair to ol' Porky Reid, he did draft Jeremy Bloom one year(didnt give him much of a chance to develop, but he did draft him), signed Kevin Curtis, drafted Riley Cooper, and signed 3 FA WRs.
<div>Thats6 more whiteWRs than 90% of the NFL teams are willing to sign...</div>
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But he does LOOOOOVE his black, sumo lineman, let me tell you!!!</div>
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<div>Blair White, Im sure, had a lot of FA offers. Even the Caste pundits were suprised he wasnt drafted. He probably figured his best shot was with Colts, who have a relatively white friendly offense. If he doesnt catch on there, he ll get a "chance"(AKA5th WR/WSTD)somewhere I bet</div>

Ahh Jeremy Bloom. A kid with world class speed who is now out of the league. The life of a white wide receiver.
 

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Jake Sharp was the talk of this forum a few years back. Just incredible that he may not be signed by anyone in the league.
 

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Toby Hillis said:
http://blog.timesunion.com/mcguire/in-a-stunner-scott-sicko-says-no-thanks-to-nfl/7547/
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<div></div>WOW! We couldve of used him for our cause but who can blame him!!!!

I read the article and the comments. Playing TE, which is not off limits to whites yet, and having multiple teams offer to sign him as a FA , he made a mistake. The Cowboys before the draft ended contacted his agent with an offer if he wasn't drafted. He had a decent chance to play in the NFL. He plans to get a masters and doctorate in History and then teach history.
 

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The drunk at Walterfootball continues his bashing of Tim Tebow. According to him Denver had a terrible draft. Tebow is worthless and Zane Beadles is a reach as well. He actually likes Eric Decker though. Here is his "analysis".

Denver: I hope Denver fans enjoyed the good ole' days when they won
because they aren't winning with Josh McDaniels in town. Like the 2009
NFL Draft, this one was highly pathetic. McDaniels simply puts too high
of a marker on character. Demaryius Thomas can't catch the football or
run routes. He was highly thought of because of his size and rumored 40
time. Tim Tebow is an undraftable prospect as a quarterback on my board
- he can't even throw a spiral. At least the Broncos have the Virgin
Mary on their side. Zane Beadles had a horrendous Senior Bowl and truly
was an enormous reach. J.D. Walton and Eric Decker were picks I actually
liked in the third round. McDaniels is a joke, and while Denver fans
love this draft now, get back to me in two years when you run McDaniels
out of town.





Grade: D-
 

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I nominate Jevan Snead for the Mike Hass award (annually given to the white player who gets screwed the most in the NFL draft).

Snead doesn't even get drafted. How does that happen?
 

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Here is a rundown of draft picks by position

QB-13 out of 15 white but the two blacks drafted will almost definitely not play that position in the NFL.

RB- 1 out of 14 white.

WR- 7 out of 27 white. Surprising to see Mcgaha, White, and Jurovich get snubbed.

TE-8 out of 20 white if we count Aaron Hernandez. Disappointing to see Colin Peek left on the board.

Offensive linemen- 13 out of 35. This is just despicable. That's just under 40%.

Defensive linemen-3 out of 59. They can't be serious!!!!!!!!

Linebackers- 9 out of 36. That's exactly 25 %.

Cornerback- 0 out of 35. The same as every year.

Safeties- 1 out of 16. Don't know if Kurt Coleman is white but if he is it would be 2 out of 16.
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Shann Schillinger is the only white safety drafted.
 

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Blair White and Kyle MCcarthy are also candidates for the Mike Hass award. I still can't find anything on Jake Sharp.Edited by: green fire317
 
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