Christophe Lemaitre "White Lightning" 9.92 and 19.80!

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  1. jacknyc

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    Ujah clearly beat Lemaitre today, and he beat him in Paris in July.
    Right now Lemaitre is the 5th best European 100m sprinter after Vicaut, Dasaolu, Gemili, and Ujah.
     
  2. elispeedster

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    Wow! the stubbornness of some of you is mind boggling...what is so difficult to understand? He has regressed 3+years! In the 60, in the 100 and his supposed strength, the 200....common sense states when something is not working you must change in order to make some progress or at least try a new approach 360...my god what ignorance!
     
  3. The Master

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    We all agree Lemaitre did not improve, and I admit he has regressed

    You even quoted me...anyway, don't want to start a fight with you....

    Carraz has assistants to help him, he does'nt train Lemaitre alone.

    What if,

    What if the true, the sad true, but what if the prime of Christophe was 3 years ago, and that he just regressed naturally, whatever training, powerlifting he does...

    We have a lot of examples that illustrate this phenomenom, that strange thing that made some guys peak at a very early age and then they struggle to be as good as when they were young.

    The best example is obviously Shirvo, that was 10'03 at 19 and then...

    I obviously hope am wrong and next year Christophe will be a sub-10 guy again
     
  4. elispeedster

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    I hope Im wrong too!


    Don't compare Shirvo to Lemiatre, Shirvo was a straight power short distance guy, he did not have that natural top end speed like Lemaitre. Shirvo was also very strong, doing Squats with over 400 pounds at a bodyweight of 175. Also, Lemaitre ran sub 10 more than once and sub 20 more than once...he should not have regressed this quickly
     
  5. jastral

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    I think Lemaitre is a very unique and rare talent:

    • First and only sub 10 white sprinter.
    • 2011 World Championship: 100m final (only non black athlete)
    • 2012 Olympic Games: 200m final (only non black athlete)
    • 2013 World Championship: 100m final (only non black athlete)
    I think sometimes we are too hard with the kid (included myself).

    2011 100m final
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    2012 200m final
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    2013 100m final

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  6. RCSMAN

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    "he should not have regressed this quickly" :faint2:

    you are a clown
     
  7. elispeedster

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    3+ years and counting of regression under the guidance of a Amateur Coach and Club...yet I'm the clown.....LMFAO!
     
  8. Izwal

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    Christophe runs 200m in Zurich today, 20h31 local time, 18h31 GMT.
    http://www.diamondleague-zurich.com/en/Results/Overview/200m-men/

    Expected weather: no rain, low wind, 19°C.

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  9. lactatking

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    Zürich Diamond League

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    RCSMAN and elispeedster ....
    Your statements please :biggrin:
     
  10. trackster

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    I've seen the video. Let's just say it's "too graphic for young viewers." Every bit as dreadful as the time and finish would indicate. Horrendous turn, then he started making up ground, then on the last few steps his form broke down so completely it was just bizarre. He used to wait until the races were over before he got disgusted with himself, but now he gets disgusted well before the end of the race, and it shows.

    I'm not as obsessed with weights as the rest of you guys, but, whatever the problem is, he's messed up. He's simply nowhere near the runner that he once was, and he's only got a year or two left in his prime (after that, the only way to keep running at a high level is to eat Jamaican "yams."). Given how few real races he runs each year, he's realistically only got maybe 10 races left and he'll undoubtedly run all ten in rainy, cold conditions.
     
  11. elispeedster

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    Well it is not as Bad as it looks! IGNORANT! The race was done aganist the wind at -.09 which equates to a .14 of added time due to the positioning of the sun while the earth was rotating at a slower pace in contrast to the solar flares. The Barometric pressure was .19828 which would deduct another .00001 off his time, that, plus, the socks he wore for this race was bright yellow rather than yellow/orange, again deduct .001 off his time, so technically Lemaitre has made progress as his real time would of been 20.001 meaning best for the year! IGNORANT XENOPHOBE!

    PS: Lemaitre added 2 pounds to his squat and ran the cones .0001 faster against the wind. He is on pace for a great 7th place in the 100 and 5th in the 200 come RIO 2016...that is if he makes past the 1st round
     
  12. RCSMAN

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    Christophe says he's tired (8 races in 6 days in european championship), so 20.24 (-0.9) it's a good race, congratulation to Christophe and Carraz
     
  13. Izwal

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    Euro champs were 1 or 2 weeks ago.
    Why is he still tired? Lack of motivation? He should be happy to run.

    Also I heard him complaining about his calves burning very early when running.
     
  14. elispeedster

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    LOL! LOL! LOL! how could I predict your response....so sad.... but funny! LOL!
     
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    That was hilarious. RCSMAN is a joke.
     
  16. lactatking

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    Adam Gemili started at Commonwealth Games and the European Championships .. he wasn't tired.
     
  17. RCSMAN

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    Why is he still tired ?

    :smile: Christophe ran 6 X100M and 4X200M in 2 WEEKS !!


    "his calves burning very early when running" yes because he's tired


    Christophe want run fast in bruxelles, in rieti next week, and in Marrakech
     
  18. RCSMAN

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    yes ELITE SPORT is more tiring than track and fields (video game)


    sorry for your ignorance :whistle:
     
  19. ZELLGADISS

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    Yes 20.24 -0.9 is a good race, it is 20.1 with tailwind.
    But yes, i think that Lemaitre should to try new things in his training for to improve more in the next season.
     
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    Euro championships ended on august 17th. Ten days is not enough to recover?

    Remember, Carraz said before the champs that Christophe was not totally ready because they were late on their planning but Christophe would peak just after the champs. And now that the champs are over we are told that Christophe is tired. Disappointing...
     
  23. The Master

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    Obviously he is tired, do we have to remind that he is drug-free ? How can we expect always the best from someone who is natural ?

    He wants to do his best and then after the race, he just said how he felt. You can perfectly think you are in good shape and then be tired during the race....

    20'24 with the wind and all the races he did in 2 weeks is a crazy performance, he is not 20 anymore, and the recovery is longer at 24.
     
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    I think you have the highest testosterone level at 23/24. Afterwards it's going downhill.
    I think Christophe is mental(ly) tired, not only phyiscal(ly) ("burning calfs").
     
  25. RCSMAN

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