Wow - There is something rotten in t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶D̶e̶n̶m̶a̶r̶k̶ Sandy Hook!!!

[werewolf]

...
Anyway, as a reminder of what "our" government can be capable of, including the murder of innocent children, please remember Waco. The far-from-perfect, but often brilliant and insightful, Bill Hicks, shortly before his death from pancreatic cancer, certainly knew what they were capable of from this incident (after viewing it firsthand.) He and his friend relay their (firsthand) story about it here. I can't say it any better than this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywDAUzkHybU

They burned down Waco "to save the children". Now they want to disarm the American people "to save the children".

 

[Menelik]

Am I the only one around this place who knows how to ask questions, like why this TROLL here chose to name itself after what's now being hyped as...

"Menelik: Black Jewish Prince"

zzz nice ad hominiem and straw-man zzz

 

[Thrashen]

zzz

Ahh, another profound, articulate, fact-filled riposte from our resident “G.I. Jew.” Instead of posting facetious, insult-ridden, curse-laden, 2-3 word posts, why don’t you at least answer his question about your bizarre screen name?

Like Highlander, I too appreciate Werewolf’s fantastic research and unique insights. There’s a reason that “conspiracy theories” exist…because events such as 9/11, Pearl Harbor, U.S.S. Liberty, JFK’s Assassination, the OKC Bombing, Operation Northwoods, Bin Laden’s “death” at the hands of Seal Team 6, the Holocaust, Sandy Hook, and countless others questionable events either don’t make sense or don’t match what’s being disgorged from the throat of the NewsJews and the Z.0.G.

 

[Menelik]

Ahh, another profound, articulate, fact-filled riposte from our resident “G.I. Jew.†Instead of posting facetious, insult-ridden, curse-laden, 2-3 word posts, why don’t you at least answer his question about your bizarre screen name?

Like Highlander, I too appreciate Werewolf’s fantastic research and unique insights. There’s a reason that “conspiracy theories†exist…because events such as 9/11, Pearl Harbor, U.S.S. Liberty, JFK’s Assassination, the OKC Bombing, Operation Northwoods, Bin Laden’s “death†at the hands of Seal Team 6, the Holocaust, Sandy Hook, and countless others questionable events either don’t make sense or don’t match what’s being disgorged from the throat of the NewsJews and the Z.0.G.

Im not a jew you black son of a b!tch. As Ive stated before the explanation for my name has been explained; you were probably still in middle school. Now go back to sucking wolf boy nuts.

 

[Thrashen]

Im not a jew you black son of a b!tch. As Ive stated before the explanation for my name has been explained; you were probably still in middle school. Now go back to sucking wolf boy nuts.

Haha, right...you do realize that I joined Caste Football a whole 2 months after you did.

Last week, in the “Women in Combatâ€￾ thread, you randomly showed up and called Freethinker a “stupid S.O.B.â€￾ and insulted myself, Werewolf, and others. I tried to ignore it because you’ve been here so long, but you’re being a real prick lately and I’m not sure why.

 

[Menelik]

Haha, right...you do realize that I joined Caste Football a whole 2 months after you did.

Last week, in the “Women in Combatâ€￾ thread, you randomly showed up and called Freethinker a “stupid S.O.B.â€￾ and insulted myself, Werewolf, and others. I tried to ignore it because you’ve been here so long, but you’re being a real prick lately and I’m not sure why.

Then you should know why I chose the name I did. I called Freethinker a S.O.B. because he posted a crass, boorish, and mean spirited post knocking vets. My slur wasn't random at all. I'm not a prick btw but the remarks about vets really pissed me off. Whether you sympathize or not I could care less. Btw where I live at you call someone a Jew you better be able to back it up.

 

[Don Wassall]

Look if you are going to say that the whole thing was a phony fake event and that nobody was killed which is exactly the point that ww was making--among many others--he was spitballing all kinds of alternative theories--then you are in fact showing NO sympathy for the parents of those dead children. You are saying they are faking their misery. Or they aren't even really the parents of kids who died. So you are wrong on that point.

Furthermore the accusation that "sympathy" is feminine is ridiculous. It's a human emotion. I'm sympathetic to the plight of the White athlete. Is that feminine too?

And there is no comparison to WACO. They killed those kids at Waco in the full light of day with TV cameras running. That was not an elaborate conspiracy, with a misleading press and actors faking scenes, that was outright murder. Anybody who followed that even a little bit knows exactly what happened. I would say I have sympathy for the plight of the people killed at Waco but I wouldn't want to be accused of being feminine.

That's one of the points that's been brought up, including by me -- show me one parent who is actually crying. One and two days after the event every parent interviewed is composed and often smiling, incredible. I've yet to see a tear shed, which goes against all common sense and intuition given what supposedly happened. As I wrote earlier in the thread, two of my relatives lost young children, and it devastated them for years.

The whole thing about disrespecting the people involved is a straw man. Was it respectful to have the "Sandy Hook chorus" singing at the Super Bowl? No exploitation involved there at all.

The more I've looked into this event the more suspicious it seems. The Aurora Colorado theater shooting also raises many interesting questions. If you don't believe the government's official conspiracy theory concerning 9/11, why is it a stretch to think other events didn't happen the way we've been told? Do you buy the government's official version of the JFK assassination, the Gulf of Tonkin incident, Pearl Harbor, the sinking of the Maine, etc.? This has been the constant m.o. of the U.S. government going back to the 19th century, using/creating events to further a pre-existing agenda.

Werewolf invites hostility by being too quick to call those who disagree with him names. Questioning someone's motives is a very weak way to argue. We should be able to discuss an event that is being used to go after the Second Amendment, but everyone needs to be civil about it.

 

[Don Wassall]

The author might be overly optimistic but there's no question that Second Amendment advocates have been activated like never before to battle the gun grabbers.


How the post-Sandy Hook gun control push spectacularly backfired in America


http://www.naturalnews.com/038970_gun_control_backfired_America.html#ixzz2K9mLyLgf

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

Like Highlander, I too appreciate Werewolf’s fantastic research and unique insights. There’s a reason that “conspiracy theories” exist…because events such as 9/11, Pearl Harbor, U.S.S. Liberty, JFK’s Assassination, the OKC Bombing, Operation Northwoods, Bin Laden’s “death” at the hands of Seal Team 6, the Holocaust, Sandy Hook, and countless others questionable events either don’t make sense or don’t match what’s being disgorged from the throat of the NewsJews and the Z.0.G.

+1, Fully agreed. I enjoy werewolf's comments and insights in this thread. And I certainly believe there is atleast partial truth to many conspiracy theories.

For this Sandy Hook incident, it's hard to say what I believe. The only thing I can say comfortably is that I am somewhat suspicious of the "offical account" of things, and this incident is being politicized to no end.

I do think there is certainly a political motive to stage this as a hoax, or to even perpetrate it as a false flag operation.

If you don't believe the government's official conspiracy theory concerning 9/11, why is it a stretch to think other events didn't happen the way we've been told? Do you buy the government's official version of the JFK assassination, the Gulf of Tonkin incident, Pearl Harbor, the sinking of the Maine, etc.? This has been the constant m.o. of the U.S. government going back to the 19th century, using/creating events to further a pre-existing agenda.

+1, great comments you make, and you can add lying about WMD in Iraq for entering an illegal war under false pretenses to that list.

The American Government and its media are confirmed liars. It's really that god damn simple. I'm not saying they lie about everything, but when it suits them, they have literally fabricated information to push their agendas and the media backs them 100% in those lies.

How anyone can just naively believe what the government or television says is just mind-numbing for me. The American Government and its media are confirmed liars in many instances, so it's hard for me to believe anything they say.

At the very least, I'd say that I am suspicious about Sandy Hook and it'd be nice to have a truly independent, objective investigation of it (though, don't hold your breath, we won't get one). The way this issue is being politicized, there certainly exists a political motive for the left to have staged this as a hoax or some sort of false flag op.

 

[jaxvid]

That's one of the points that's been brought up, including by me -- show me one parent who is actually crying. One and two days after the event every parent interviewed is composed and often smiling, incredible. I've yet to see a tear shed, which goes against all common sense and intuition given what supposedly happened. As I wrote earlier in the thread, two of my relatives lost young children, and it devastated them for years.

I just watched plenty of you tube videos of parents crying. But each and everyone of them was followed by comments on how they were faking it, or they were actors, or they didn't cry enough, or didn't seem sincere. I wouldn't bother posting them here because the response would just be the same.

While I agree there are some serious questions about what happened there, it's still not farfetched to think that it could have happened as it is described. For example, if all the parents are fakes or acting then why didn't they put more emotion into it? Is the claim that the govt. set up this big false flag operation but screwed up by hiring poor actors? That's the evidence? The govt. efficiently convinced all media and politicians and police and emergency workers that a huge massacre occurred but OOPS they didn't do a good job hiring fake parents and coaching them on the proper fake crying. And WHOOPS they wanted to make it about AR-15's but gosh darn it forgot to include one in the actual or faked assault. Oh and they messed up with the casting and used the same little girl twice.

The conspiracy makes less sense then an actual nut job doing it with the addition of bad reporting of the incident.

 

[Don Wassall]

How many of the videos showed actual tears? And red eyes? The first person I saw "crying" was the President of the United States, but strangely there were no tears even though he rubbed his eyes as if he was crying. I would like to see a few of the videos you watched with tears streaming out of the eyes of parents.

Crying genuine tears on command is not easy for the best of actors. Crying is a very deep emotion. I've read many times about how in movies tears were added to an actor or actress in a scene because they couldn't summon them without such aid. But it should be hard for any parent not to cry non-stop just a day or two after their young child was murdered.

At any rate, yes it could have happened as described. But what's wrong with bringing up the many anomalies in the reporting, and the curious reactions and claims of some of the people interviewed, from the goofy coroner to the apparent tall tales of the neighbor who claimed to have gathered some of the fleeing children on his driveway, to how a 100 pound weenie -- who there is no trace of for the past three years and who was unknown by anyone even on the street he supposedly lived on -- suddenly turned into Rambo?

 

[dwid]

The conspiracy makes less sense then an actual nut job doing it with the addition of bad reporting of the incident.

it all makes sense, so many holes so we sit here and argue and fight amongst ourselves while they go about their business. Yes the government lies to us and has in the past. We might never know the truth. I take offense to werewolf claiming that many on here are just like slack jawed dwfs who happen to notice the racial makeup of sports leagues. It goes further than that. If this site is just about getting more Whites on the field then that is simply not enough. Insulting anyone who isn't on the same page as you is pathetic. Yes you picked up on the 9/11 thing, what, a year ago or so? I was questioning it soon after it happened, where I didn't have access to the internet that much, and not much support and called crazy. Yet now all of these people coming out of the woodworks the past few years saying they knew the government was lying from the beginning. Many of the same people who said I was crazy a decade ago.

 

[Highlander]

Furthermore the accusation that "sympathy" is feminine is ridiculous. It's a human emotion. I'm sympathetic to the plight of the White athlete. Is that feminine too?

You're right, it was a poor choice on my part to use that word. I regretted using it shortly after posting it. I could have phrased it better than I did. My apologies. I've just read so many comments by mostly female posters on other discussion boards accusing those questioning the official story with lacking sympathy for the victims when in my view they are two separate things. I shouldn't be posting so late when I'm clearly tired and then too lazy to make corrections.

Yes you picked up on the 9/11 thing, what, a year ago or so? I was questioning it soon after it happened, where I didn't have access to the internet that much, and not much support and called crazy. Yet now all of these people coming out of the woodworks the past few years saying they knew the government was lying from the beginning. Many of the same people who said I was crazy a decade ago.

I found this clip yesterday of 9/11 Commissioner, Bob Kerry, admitting it was a 30-year conspiracy?! Bizarre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDfm3NroVG8

 

[jaxvid]

The author might be overly optimistic but there's no question that Second Amendment advocates have been activated like never before to battle the gun grabbers.


How the post-Sandy Hook gun control push spectacularly backfired in America


http://www.naturalnews.com/038970_gun_control_backfired_America.html#ixzz2K9mLyLgf

That's true, I came across a letter written to the website VDARE.com that brought something up I hadn't considered.

[h=1]A Few Other Reasons They'll Never Get Our Guns—From an Observer Uncomfortable with Gun-Worship
[/h] By Anonymous Attorney on February 5, 2013 at 7:12pm



For one, guns are a lonely victorious issue for conservatives. They've lost—or are losing—abortion, immigration, prayer in schools, taxes, spending, marijuana, pornography, regulation, gay marriage, tort reform, you name it. We're surrounded by crime-committing Hispanics of questionable citizenship, Christianity has been chased from most corners, and every third show on TV is now about how cool gay people are.


But the NRA has been a strong defender of the Second Amendment, scaring Congressmen left and right. The Supreme Court has affirmed an individual right to firearms. On a field of fallen conservative causes, guns remain standing. So it's almost as if Conservative America is saying, "You've got to be kidding, right? You're going to whip us soundly on every single issue, and now you want to take away the only success we've had for the past half-century?"


In short, guns are the conservatives' abortion. It's been won. For now.
Add to that the fact that we don't have to discuss race when defending guns, and the incentive to go rabid is even stronger.


And yes, back to race. I got my handgun after Hurricane Katrina. I imagined defending myself and my family against roving bands of looters in the event of some natural (or man-made) disaster. I didn't imagine most of them would be white.
I can assure you the same thought lurks in the back of many other minds.
So there you have it. Guns are seen as the "last stand", ideologically and literally. Pry those cold, dead fingers.


http://www.vdare.com/posts/a-few-ot...om-an-observer-uncomfortable-with-gun-worship

 

[werewolf]

That's one of the points that's been brought up, including by me -- show me one parent who is actually crying. One and two days after the event every parent interviewed is composed and often smiling, incredible. I've yet to see a tear shed, which goes against all common sense and intuition given what supposedly happened...

The kids too. This little girl "survivor" seems remarkably sanguine about the whole thing - and everybody up there seems to be smiling a whole lot, including her, and including the "parents" waiting in line to be interviewed by the tv cams on the next news video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddF...SiBUvLLYTByCL7W25kHc2fBg&feature=results_main

 

[werewolf]

Looks like they may have photoshopped the allegedly deceased Emilie Parker into this Parker family photo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtp_A4Q_EAg

 

[werewolf]

Look if you are going to say that the whole thing was a phony fake event and that nobody was killed which is exactly the point that ww was making...

All my posts are still here. Show me where I said that. I'm waiting. Show me.

What I did say was I don't know what happened up there, but what they're showing us and telling us is suspicious as hell, especially when taken in context of their immediately implemented agenda.

 

[werewolf]

The kids too. This little girl "survivor" seems remarkably sanguine about the whole thing - and everybody up there seems to be smiling a whole lot, including her, and including the "parents" waiting in line to be interviewed by the tv cams on the next news video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddF...SiBUvLLYTByCL7W25kHc2fBg&feature=results_main

"Did you hear any gun shots?" No, she didn't. Just says something about police officers right outside the door. Likewise when they asked the teachers and other kids in the school if they heard gunshots. No, they didn't. But they were originally trying to tell us that the alleged bug eyed 80 pound maniac (who vanished in 2009) shot off 150 rounds with his AR-15 (which they now admit he didn't even have) . That gun is extremely loud indoors! People couldn't possibly not hear that noise or just gloss over it.

 

[frederic38]

shot off 150 rounds with his AR-15 (which they now admit he didn't even have) .

the only thing that i saw mentionning that was the video where the TV misreported something, do you have another link than this one? if not it's probably just a misreport and he had an AR 15 with him

 

[frederic38]

"Did you hear any gun shots?" No, she didn't.

i don't think that she answered "no", and does a girl this age knows what a gunshot is anyways?
she was probably away from the shooter (that's why she's still alive) and the thing she noticed the most is the police around the school

 

[werewolf]

the only thing that i saw mentionning that was the video where the TV misreported something, do you have another link than this one? if not it's probably just a misreport and he had an AR 15 with him

I already posted links above showing the media admitting that he had no AR-15 with him, only hand guns, which you, of course, ignored.

The controlled media was widely reporting about 150 bullets fired at Sandy Hook. It's already been put down the Orwellian memory hole. Here is CBS News reporting that "multiple 30-round magazines and hundreds of bullets were found". They'll probably disappear that page soon.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162...llets-multiple-30-round-clips-at-conn-school/

No, the little girl didn't answer "no" to the question about whether she heard gunshots, but she didn't say yes either. She just kind of ignored the question and said something about police outside the door. Likewise when they were asking the teachers about gunshots. None of them seemed to say much about it. I rememeber one saying she just heard something on the "intercom". In reality, "hundreds" of large caliber bullets indoors would be deafening and your ears would be ringing and you wouldn't be glossing over it. And why wasn't that little girl teary eyed and hysterical? Instead she was cracking jokes about how it would have been better if she had a stomach ache and didn't go to school that day.

None of this rings true.

 

[werewolf]

... I take offense to werewolf claiming that many on here are just like slack jawed dwfs who happen to notice the racial makeup of sports leagues. It goes further than that. If this site is just about getting more Whites on the field then that is simply not enough. Insulting anyone who isn't on the same page as you is pathetic. Yes you picked up on the 9/11 thing, what, a year ago or so?...

I wasn't talking about you. If the shoe doesn't fit don't try to wear it. As for 911, I was telling people that the official story was bull right from day one. Two things tipped me off that they weren't being truthful right on 911. Countless more were to follow.

 

[werewolf]

Haha, right...you [Menelik] do realize that I joined Caste Football a whole 2 months after you did.

Last week, in the “Women in Combat” thread, you randomly showed up and called Freethinker a “stupid S.O.B.” and insulted myself, Werewolf, and others. I tried to ignore it because you’ve been here so long, but you’re being a real prick lately and I’m not sure why.

I was noticing The Black Jewish Prince gratuitously cursing at people before I had anything to do with him. Then he comes on here with his "zzz" trolling.

 

[jaxvid]

All my posts are still here. Show me where I said that. I'm waiting. Show me.

What I did say was I don't know what happened up there, but what they're showing us and telling us is suspicious as hell, especially when taken in context of their immediately implemented agenda.

You just posted 5 times that no one said they definitely heard any shots: the kid wasn't a witness to anything, the teacher heard something on the intercom. The reports of weapons are all wrong, there are no signs of lots of shots being fired. The kid in the photo is a fake. What are you getting at then? Were some kids killed there or not? Was it all a fake or not? You must have spent a lot of time looking into this. Are you ready to say what you think happened or are you going to keep saying you don't know but keep posting generic rants that the government did something bad so we should all accuse them of some kind of unspecified wrong doing.

Is it really possible that out of the hundreds of people associated with that school that no one would come forward and say, "I don't know of any kids that were killed" if that was the case. Have you ever had a kid in Kindergarten? You get to know all the other kids and their parents. If they make up a fake kid and post their pictures on line, hundreds of people would know about it. And you think not one of them would say "I know every kid in that class--none of them have been killed and all the "grieving parents" are strangers to me.

I have trouble buying that. Not that the govt. would do something heinious, but that so many would know about it and not say anything.

 

[frederic38]

I already posted links above showing the media admitting that he had no AR-15 with him, only hand guns, which you, of course, ignored.

no, i looked at the links you posted:

http://www.castefootball.us/forums/...-Sandy-Hook!!!?p=269375&viewfull=1#post269375

there are 3 youtube links, and in those 3 links there is that report by a journalist who says that apparently the shooter had only handguns on him
obviously it's a misreport, otherwise show me a link from the mainstream media where they state that the killer had no assault rifle