nevada said:
You are simply wrong. UFC has invested millions of dollars into Liddell. They absolutely wanted him to win. If you think otherwise, you don't know much about business. It's really that simple. UFC lost millions of dollars in future pay per view revenue tonight.
(I can see where what I wrote earlier was setting people off by the way)
No. Chuck was at the tail end even if he'd won. He's old. Period. Take the big picture in. If you are really going to see ESPN and motion picture money and sponsorship come in, these people will eh, want to negotiate some changes they think will make the sport better, more diverse. And their cash will talk. I doubt White or the UFC is immune to this or you wouldn't see marginal white fighters being lined up against black retreads they didn't really match up with. Anyway, with possible outside money pouring in, promises of more and better promotion if more "marketable" champs are in place, then all kinds of fun things could start happening. Rogan right off was jabbering about how marketable Rampage is. Considering the way other sports and athletes are marketed, Rampage is what corporations know is the type of face that is rubber stamped approved by the MSM.
I do have to wonder why anyone thinks the announcers have control over the fights or the UFC. They're paid to talk. And they are told to present things in a certain way when / if possible. Like getting incredibly excited over caste approved wins. The comments about Goodridge ring true, as back in the day the announcers would fawn all over him and then quickly fail to point out Goodridge's penchant for tapping the second things weren't going his way in the Octagon. If you hear any talking head anywhere ever remark honestly about a black athlete not actually having the stuff to match the hype they receive, send up a flare. All I generally see are nut huggers and jock chewers when it comes to remarks about blacks or any non-white.
The remarks about White being noncommital regarding Fedor aren't surprising. Emelianenko would trounce anyone in the UFC right now. Of course no one is unbeatable, especially in NHB where there are so many variables. It's the number of variables that I think make it harder for a lot of black fighters at the very top of the game when it's honest and if it's kept honest. To me it seems they get confused when fighting top all-around mixed martial artists. Like black QB's facing a blitz. Back to Fedor, if the UFC is under pressure to come into line with the rest of the major sports in the US, they won't be in a hurry to get him. They will be trying to mine the country for decent black fighters and digging up cannon fodder amongst second and third tier white fighters as was done in boxing for decades.
What happened in boxing has been amusing, as it seems the scramble is on to "correct" things. It appeared to me the sport had been "ignored" by certain "interests" while white Americans lost interest and that allowed non-caste approved champs to rise. The white Americans who spend money lost interest in boxing for a lot of reasons, including a) NHB/MMA is more exciting b) Boxing had become full of overrated ghetto and barrio thugs c) Those thugs had gotten away with many years of avoiding truly good white fighters (who wouldn't have been given a decent shot anyway) Much of the white disinterest in boxing was probably subconscious as the majority of whites are still hypnotized sheeple like most of the trolls that stop by here. (Most of the trolls. I do realize some of the trolls are guys doing their Hillel House or whatever mandated 8 hrs per week of discussion board trolling, reporting, disruption)
Henderson is getting up their age wise, but he should beat Rampage if he simply goes out there and tackles him right away.
Another thing about last night's fights. They reminded me of what a trainer (a Mexican guy) had said to me back during my little foray into boxing as a teen. I've brought this guy up before in the boxing forum when I mentioned why he thought Mexicans were the best boxers etc. He said to me that a lot of white fighters go into the ring "cold", that they should go into the ring sweating, ready. (I know a lot of you guys already know about warming up etc for fights) He said the easiest time to get knocked on your ass was the first round and it was even more dangerous when you go in cold. He said it seemed to him a lot of white guys warmed up and then sat around resting too long before the bell. Ever since then I've paid attention to this and to me it seems a lot of white guys do go into fights cold while admittedly a lot more hispanic and black guys will go in sweating. Not all the time of course, but it just seems this way. I bring this up because lousy Jardine and Chuck both look like they'd wandered in from the street, dry as a bone. If you've ever boxed you probably noticed you do handle punches a lot better when you are "hot", really warmed up. When you're cold you can be tagged and go loopy right away, while the same punch wouldn't even affect your legs after several minutes of fighting.
I know this sounds idiotic, but after Chuck got up and went to his corner after the fight, the way his belly was bulging and such makes me wonder about his real conditioning. A fighter ten years older than him should have a harder mid-section. He looked very soft, softer than usual.
Chuck's remarks after the fight were bizarre, almost like he felt he would be told to hit the road if he loses. We'll see what kind of promotion Rampage gets. They'll test the waters. If he can be hyped like the ghetto morons in other sports then he's on his way. If he doesn't "take" then it will be off to someone else. The next 12 - 18 months will show if the UFC has been co-opted, decided to take the dollars and get in line with the big boys in more way than one. If you start to see more and more ****** with third rate grappling skills moving up in the ranks you can bet the farm that White and crew have taken the money.
By the way, I'm not sure it's correct to think blacks are "tougher" than everyone else. They (and mestizos) are more
impulsively violent than whites hence the state of their neighborhoods and every other majority black or brown area, region, country, whatever. But their perceived toughness vs whites is based on a white population that has been brainwashed into not fighting back when accosted - and a lot of whites know if they thump a black thug on the streets they'll be the bad guy while the black walks. It's also a group thing as groups of blacks and latinos harrass lone whites or whites who are in small groups from kindergarten to the day the dark kids are kicked out of HS by age 21 or so. Growing up around mexicans and blacks in L.A., I can honestly say that as soon as things would get really tough, meaning a fair fight or their numbers were suddenly not superior they'd run like hyenas being chased by lions. As far as ring toughness, we've seen 40 or so years of stacked fights and relaxation of rules that catered to black strengths in boxing, kind of like the NBA tailoring things for blacks. In recent years we've seen a lot of whites marching right through the "tougher" blacks, never mind what we usually see in MMA. Keep in mind the media is the entity that started the dipsh*t lies that the "talent pool" (meaning black and brown) in boxing is now smaller when in fact it's larger than ever. It's just that those ghetto and barrio dwellers have to fight a lot more Europeans these days.
Enough of my usual rambling. Obviously I see some sports as an extension of politics, due to the way they're controlled. Look at the NFL and how players are "selected" and others, white, selectively ignored. Look at the NBA's make-up, then look at how the cream of their crop perform against European and South American teams. Look at who really ran boxing for decades and who was promoted. The UFC has become hot, and that has attracted the attention of those who pull a lot of strings, not only the purse strings I might add. We'll see if the organization can for the most part stay honest or not in short order.
