UFC 71

[C Darwin]

For those wondering about Black beauty pageants and what not, they
sprung up because as a RESPONSE to segregation, not to segregate at the
outset. There is a big difference.

Why have black beauty pageants not RESPONDED to the elimination of Jim Crow laws? They just keep on segregating. Oh wait, I know, they are not forced to integrate like whites are. There is a big difference now. Whites are second-class citizens in the US and are not entitled to the opportunity that blacks are. Thanks again DX.

 

[JD074]

"Didn't want any" was and is forced segregation.

That it's not forced segregation.

In other words, when they "don't want any" black athletes, that's "forced segregation." But when they don't want any white athletes, it's not forced segregation, because the white athletes are simply not good enough. Is that what you're saying?

Pretty much. You take out 30% (or more) of the toughest fighters of a certain population and you will have a degridation of it's fighting talent.

In other words, white champs are frauds because they haven't faced all the black thugs in prison. You're basically saying that black athletes are superior.You're trying to say it in a discrete way so you won't get banned.

 

[JD074]

The issue of warming up was brought up earlier. Here's an interesting passage from that article that Joe Sixpack posted:

We know that Kelly can't start slow in this fight. We want to get him good and warmed up [in the dressing room] so he's ready to go. After the first two rounds we feel this will be Kelly's fight."

http://www.fightwriter.com/?q=node/910

 

[Sean]

The Russians took over the Heavyweight Class in 10 years and the excuse was all the blacks were now playing football-now the excuse is the best fighters are in jail

.I'll take Wlad, Chagaev, Fedor and Povetkin to any prison in the world and these Russians will beat the snot out of anybody!!!
I'll take the best athletes from Europe and put them against the best in Africa in any sport-soccer,boxing,wrestling,basketball,weightlifting,etc and the Europeans win very,very easy.Both summer/winter Olympics prove that. No contest really!!

Edited by: Sean

 

[Bart]

The Russians took over the Heavyweight Class in 10 years and the excuse was all the blacks were now playing football-now the excuse is the best fighters are in jail

.

Very good!

 

[Gary]

Joe Pignuts mentioned his prison buddy Ron Lyle. Lyle was a bum who rarely ever won a big fight. He lost to Ali, Foreman, Quarry, Jimmy Young twice, was belted out by Gerry Conney and who can forget his 2nd round ko lost to the great Lynn Ball who was 10-4 at the time

. If Lyle is the best from prison you better come up with a better excuse. Lyle was comparable to Rahman of todays heavyweights which means Maskaev would knock him out and most likely out of the ring!

 

[jaxvid]

Lemme understand: The Redskins didn't want black players so that's FORCED SEGREGATION, teams today don't want white players but that's VOLUNTARY SEGREGATION.

The Miss America pageant didn;t want black women years ago and that was FORCED SEGREGATION, the Black Miss America pagent doesn't want white women today but that's VOLUNTARY SEGREGATION.

Memo to Sixpack, cut back to a quart of malt liquer and read up on voluntary vs. forced. Forced is when the government mandates it, voluntary is when the owners want to do it. Simple really.

 

[jaxvid]

Here's some pics to cheer everyone up.

I liked this one so much I made it my avatar.

 

[dkr77]

Hey Josephine sixpack! I worked in a maximum security prison for over 10 years and the most feared group in any major prison is not the black males you speak of; It's the Aryan brotherhood. Whether it's skin on skin or shank's the AB's are the alpha male's in a facility filled with alpha male syndrome. Edited by: dkr77

 

[Alpha Male]

Joe Sixpaxk: "Since street fights and MMA are an even better fit one can only imagine what would happen if some enterprising MMA gym owner opened up a gym in the ghetto and started grooming fighters. A high-risk propisition considering the tinderbox that is the contemporary black male, but one that has a good chance of paying off."

News Flash! I live in NYC and have perused the various MMA gyms. There is way more opportunity for minorities to learn MMA, often free of charge, where they live, then say working class whites from upstate NY who may have to travel for some time to reach one.

 

[guest301]

Well I am back from my extended memorial day weekend and the Liddell loss and all the subsequent media attention to it really just proved everything I have previously posted on the ramifications of a Liddell loss. ESPN just loved it and showed more replays than I care to mention. I hope Chuck comes back strong from this, learns from his mistakes and gets another shot at Rampage whether Henderson beats him or not. UFC 71 was just a bad night all around for us...I think we were due for one of those.

 

[Colonel Callan]

This sums up the way Chuck looked - and his attitude: http://
www.lvrj.com/news/7714592.html http://www.aolsportsblog.com/
2007/05/28/report-too-much-partying-led-to-loss-for-chuck-li ddell/

Jackson may not be all that great as we've seen him get his clocked
cleaned, but it's doubtful he was putting more into being seen than
getting ready for the fight. We'll see how he maintains his regimen now
that he's got the belt. I also still think that the smaller Henderson, if age
hasn't caught up with him, will give Rampage a beating. I hope Saturday's
pean to the PC gods is indeed a bump in the road and not a trend we're
going to see continue with stacked fights featuring old or weak white
fighters who can't hang with second rate blacks, never mind good white
fighters who will be ignored if the sport is to become State Approved.

The troll remarking on opening an MMA gym in the middle of rathole
ghettos and barrios is just trying to get people's goat. Here in L.A. (and
every other big city) there are far more gyms and chances for "minority"
youth to learn MMA. Many of those opportunities are at white taxpayer
expense at "subsidized" facilities who have part, most or all of the tab
picked up by Tio Sam because they are helping the "disadvantaged".
Helping them become more efficient bullies and robbers on the street in
most cases.

Yeah, ESPN loved showing the highlights over and over. First time I
remember them doing that for UFC bouts. But there's no agenda. Nope.
None at all.

 

[Guest]

Why have black beauty pageants not RESPONDED to the elimination
of Jim Crow laws? They just keep on segregating. Oh wait, I know, they
are not forced to integrate like whites are. There is a big difference
now. Whites are second-class citizens in the US and are not entitled to
the opportunity that blacks are. Thanks again DX.

They aren't forced to integrate because A.) No white person cares to
integrate with them. If they (we?) forced the issue, they would
be forced to integrate and B.) starting in RESPONSE to segregation is
not the same as starting segregation.



And are you SERIOUS about white people being second class citizens in
the United States? I mean really? Or is it just
hyperbole? Because it's pretty silly either way. Go ahead,
bring up BET next...

 

[Guest]

Is that what you're saying?

That's EXACTLY what I'm saying. Keeping blacks out because you
are intimidated by their skills is not the same as keeping whites out
because they don't have skills. Many whites that is, not all.

You're basically saying that black athletes are
superior.You're trying to say it in a discrete way so
you won't get banned.

Would I get banned for saying that? I don't think I've been
discreet in saying that, on average, blacks are better athletes than
whites. Because that's what I believe and that's what history has
shown...

 

[Guest]

Joe Pignuts mentioned his prison buddy Ron Lyle. Lyle was a bum
who rarely ever won a big fight. He lost to Ali, Foreman, Quarry, Jimmy
Young twice, was belted out by Gerry Conney and who can forget his 2nd
round ko lost to the great Lynn Ball who was 10-4 at the time

.
If Lyle is the best from prison you better come up with a better
excuse. Lyle was comparable to Rahman of todays heavyweights which
means Maskaev would knock him out and most likely out of the
ring!

Joe Pignuts didn't mention Ron Lyle. He was mentioned by
another. I pointed out that, despite starting late in his career,
Ron Lyle turned out to be an above average boxer, going 11 rounds with
Ali and knocking him down twice when he was 34 years old. Chuck
Wepner knocks Ali down once on the way to being knocked out in the 15th
round and his picture rates a mention on this thread. Affirmative
Action like a motherf**ker.

 

[White Shogun]

Hey Joe, when are you going to throw a few posts out in support of white athletes? Most of the trolls who stick around for a while at least write a token post or two supporting white athletes, just to make themselves seem legit. What about you?

 

[Guest]

Forced is when the government mandates it, voluntary is when the owners want to do it. Simple really.

Excuse me then. What you have today is ABILITY segregation for
less-talented black and white athletes compared to CHARACTERISTIC
segregation against darker-skinned players in the past, many of whom
had more ability than the professional white athletes.

 

[Guest]

Hey Josephine sixpack! I worked in a maximum security prison for
over 10 years and the most feared group in any major prison is not the
black males you speak of; It's the Aryan brotherhood. Whether it's skin
on skin or shank's the AB's are the alpha male's in a facility filled
with alpha male syndrome.

Well, I don't know the prison you work at, and you obviously seem like
a fan of the Aryan Brotherhood, so I won't argue your point about your
jail.



But the AB is a very small gang, comprising a minority of the prison
population and, indeed, a minority of white inmates. The
alledgedly tough guys in the Aryan Brotherhood would probably not
change the white success in combat sports by too high a percentage if
they were let out. Alas, the majority of whites in prison, I'm
sad to say, do not have an easy time and are bullied, beaten, or
worse. Not a good turn of events.

 

[Guest]

News Flash! I live in NYC and have perused the various MMA gyms.
There is way more opportunity for minorities to learn MMA, often free
of charge, where they live, then say working class whites from upstate
NY who may have to travel for some time to reach one.

Often for free? The f**k you say!



MMA gyms are incredibly expensive just 90 miles south of NYC. Way
too expensive for even me and I make a (slightly) above-average living.

 

[Guest]

Hey Joe, when are you going to throw a few posts out in support of white athletes?

Umm, I'm sure they're nice people.

I've said over and over again that blacks are better athletes ON
AVERAGE. This doesn't mean every black is better than every
white. There are many fine white athletes out there.

 

[White Shogun]

Hey Joe, when are you going to throw a few posts out in support of white athletes?

Umm, I'm sure they're nice people.

I've said over and over again that blacks are better athletes ON
AVERAGE. This doesn't mean every black is better than every
white. There are many fine white athletes out there.

Wow, don't go all out Joe! You don't have to lay it on so thick! Spare us the superlatives, will ya?

You're just another troll, and not a very entertaining one at that. You must not be a full-grown troll yet.

Edited by: White Shogun

 

[PitBull]

Whites have fewer rights under the law in America than blacks. That is
indisputable. Whites do better than blacks because they are smart, work
hard, build decent, safe neighborhoods, and are family-oriented. There
is no excuse for blacks doing more poorly than whites at all in this
country, given the unlimited handouts and excuses, unless you simply
admit that they are inferior as a group.

Blacks have to force people to hire them with governmental coercion,
have to force people to include them in their neighborhoods and schools
through governmental coercion, etc, becaue they simply cannot thrive on
their own. They are always trying to be included with whites because they
feel inferior as a group.

As far as the integration of sports is concerned, I would say that blacks
and whites are competitive with each other--you can look at many sports
and see this, standout athletes of both races. But sports are just games.
They hold importance for those who think they are important. In the rest
of everyday life, which is far more important to most people than sports,
blacks are grossly inferior. Segregation was due to this factor, which
carried over to sports, as it did all aspects of american life. Integration of
sports was successful (or a mixed bag, depending on whom you ask), but
the integration of soceity has been a disaster.

Without forced integration and affirmative action, blacks would sink far
lower than they were before the 1960's. There's too much competition
now for labor, both here and globally. Add in the rejection of white
culture, the dissolution of the family and "community" (for the "authentic
black experience" of the ghetto), and its a disaster. Affirmative action will
end. Companies and the country just can't afford to have a bunch of
sandbaggers and compete globally. And non-white foreign owners of
companies won't buy into it.

Anybody who makes statements about superior this or that in sports, in
an age of affirmative action, performance enhancing drug use (since the
early 1960's), and advertising media's desire to pander to as many groups
as possible, is just nuts. That's the money, and the money does the
talking.

I'm not one of the posters who thinks whites are best at all sports. I think
they are just as good, and in many cases, not given a fair opportunity,
just like they are outside of sports in the general society. The only
reason I tune in here is its a pro-white site, period.

In the end, sports are just games. They hold mportance for those who
think they are important. It is critical for the leftists who tried to
integrate society to prove that somehow, blacks really are just as good or
better, and to keep everyone's eyes away from all the ways they are not.
That's where the bias comes from. And it seems to me that as whites are
increasingly waking up the the fact that integration has failed, and that
they are becoming minorities in their own country, it makes the job of all
the leftist integrationists even more urgent.

Don asked whether or not you should be banned. I vote yes. Take your
black supemacy BS and shove it back where it came from. You need
whites like the air you breathe. We don't need you at all. If society were
segregated, including sports, the sports would be poorer, but in every
other way whites would be immeasurably better off. That's what matters.
See you later.

 

[Guest]

Whites have fewer rights under the law in America than blacks. That is

indisputable.

No, it's not. In so many cases, financial, educational, in the
criminal justice system, your (our?) white skin is a BONUS.
Something that makes it easier to get that loan, avoid that ticket or
prison time, and live in a better neighborhood with better
schools. Open your eyes or read a book, life will confirm this
much.

Blacks have to force people to hire them with governmental coercion,

have to force people to include them in their neighborhoods and schools

through governmental coercion, etc, becaue they simply cannot thrive on

their own.

Well, to have to FORCE someone to include them, they must be actively
prevented in the first place. And I would say that, in this case,
it's the people actively preventing them that are to blame for keeping
them out, not black people themselves.

Add in the rejection of white culture, the dissolution
of the family and "community" (for the "authentic black
experience" of the ghetto), and its a disaster. Affirmative action will
end. Companies and the country just can't afford to have a bunch of
sandbaggers and compete globally. And non-white foreign owners of
companies won't buy into it.

I very much agree with this.

Don asked whether or not you should be banned. I vote yes. Take your

black supemacy BS and shove it back where it came from. You need

whites like the air you breathe. We don't need you at all.

A pity. I'm not black though.

Edited by: JoeSixpack

 

[C Darwin]

What you have today is ABILITY segregation for less-talented
black and white athletes compared to CHARACTERISTIC segregation
against darker-skinned players in the past, many of whom had more
ability than the professional white athletes.

Actually what we have today is characteristic discrimination against
whites.

No, it's not. In so many cases, financial, educational, in the
criminal justice system, your (our?) white skin is a BONUS.
Something that makes it easier to get that loan, avoid that ticket or
prison time, and live in a better neighborhood with better schools.
Open your eyes or read a book, life will confirm this much.

Have any real data, or just anecdotes and liberal propaganda?

Well, to have to FORCE someone to include them, they must
be actively prevented in the first place. And I would say that, in this
case, it's the people actively preventing them that are to blame for
keeping them out, not black people themselves.

The Redskins were always competitive as an all white team. The
most talented blacks were always allowed to play for other teams,
and the Redskins would often beat the integrated teams.

Joe 6pack: You should apply to ESPN for a job as a sportscaster.
They are looking for people JUST like you.

 

[Bart]

... But sports are just games.
They hold importance for those who think they are important. In the rest
of everyday life, which is far more important to most people than sports,
blacks are grossly inferior. Segregation was due to this factor, which
carried over to sports, as it did all aspects of american life. Integration of
sports was successful (or a mixed bag, depending on whom you ask), but
the integration of soceity has been a disaster.

Excellent post!Politically incorrect, but true to the core.