Leonardfan said:
Anyone else notice that white offensive tackles at the college level get projected to become interior linemen in the nfl?
yes, either that or right tackle, i have a draft guide i bought, waste of money
same garbage written about every player
I will write some of the excerpts of what they wrote. Writing all of the negatives and "the way we see it will take too long, so i will try to some it up.
rated tackles top 20
5. ebon britton 6'6 310: "not a great foot athlete, average lateral quickness.
a bit mechanical. Lumbers in space. Not explosive."
"The way we see it: Britton has a skillset better suited for the right side in the pros and may even wind up inside. Does not look pretty but usually gets the job done and possesses day-one starter potential."
So despite having natural strength and being a "solid technicician, very durable and has not missed time to injury, plays hard and competes" "smart and plays with awareness and discipline" he is not rated higher than 4 other tackles and will be moved to the inside, or right side.
8. Troy Kropog Tulane 6'5 316 negatives : "average hip snap -- does not generate much movement" "too lean"
positives: ositives are "good athlete with natural movement skills" "plays smart" "very good work ethic, football is important to him." "good lateral agility" "good blitz recognition"
11. T.J. Lang Eastern Michigan 6'4 305 negatives : "shows some
tightness in his movement
The way we see it : a 3 year starter at LT could wind up being best playing inside."
positives "tough competitor, very good effort and stamina" "good intensity and football temperament." "Physical, has enough agility to handle the edge"
12. Garrett Reynolds 6'7 7/8th 310 negatives :
"
Tight-hipped, a bit heavy footed and flat assed"
positives "plays with awareness and adjusts to stunds and blitzes. Flashes some nastiness and finishes blocks." "solid technician. "tough, plays hard with good energy. Good energy and active hands"
"The way we see it: overacheiver will need help to survive on the right side"
19. Alex Boone 6'7 330 Ohio St. negatives:
is on the ground too much. average lateral quickness. exposed by edge speed. lacks discipline. very questionable character- has maturity issues and easily could be distracted by the trappings that come with the NFL. Could struggle to stick on a roster
positives "looks the part with great size, long arms and good growth potential. Good workout numbers. 4 year starter in a big time program"
Wow, a White guy that "looks the part" he has the long arms and is better than the guys going 18 spots ahead of him, it must be his average lateral quickness, oh wait, Michael Oher was said to have that. It must be his maturity issues, wait Andre Smith had that and so did Phil Loadholt. I wonder what else could it be?
Guards (some who have played tackle)
1. Andy Levitre 6'2 3/8th 306 Oregon st, negatives: "lacks ideal arm length to handle the edges and does not play with good extension.
The way we see it: converted left tackle who lackes the size and arm length desired on the outside and projects to the left guard spot."
positives "very smart and has great feel for game. Strong functional athlete. takes good angles. works his hips and maintains positioning. Good base and balance to sustain and finish blocks"
so he has the hip snap but his arm length is hindering him even though it says "plays with very active hands and steers and controls defenders"
3. Kraig Urbik 6'5 323 Wisconsin negatives: "not a great athlete and struggles to handle counters and movement once he turns his shoulders."
positives "can snap his hips and drive defenders off the ball. Flashes explosive power to jolt defenders. Has all the intangibles"
so hes got the "hip snap" and the "explosiveness. but he will still project either the 3rd or 4th round as a guard
9. Andy Kemp 6'5 318 Wisconsin negatives: marginal contact balance, can do a better job sinking his hips.
The way we see it: "A thick, slow-footed mauler with some upside to develop. Shows he can get the job done but doesnt look pretty doing it."
positives: " has good overall size and frame. can get positioning and wall off blockers. Can anchor in pass protection and hold his ground when he bends his knees"
so i guess he projects in the 6th or 7th round as guard because he doesnt look pretty when gets the job done and doesnt have that "hip snap"
11. Ryan Stanchek 6'3 1/8th 305 West Virginia negatives : "does not sink his hips with ease or play with natural bend."
The way we see it: "A good tough, football player who lined up at left tackle in college but projects inside in the pros. Not overly athletic or powerful. Lacks agility to handle edge speed."
positives : "plays with enough agility to pull and trap. A smart player with great awareness and an understanding of blocking angles"
so he projects as a 7th rounder as a backup.
So all of these guys get the job done but "dont look pretty doing it" and they all are not athletic despite dominating in college, have average lateral quickness and some form of problems with "hip snap"
now here are some of the top rated black left tackles
1. Eugene Monroe Virginia 6'5 310 negatives: "uses too much finesse and is not overpowering as a run blocker. Too jumpy anticipating the snap and will open his shoulders and leave the inside susceptible to counter moves. Can punch with more authority and do a better job uncoiling his hands. Not elected a team captain and is not a vocal leader. Durability and mental toughness to play through pain will require further evalauation. but he has 'prototypical size with long arms and looks every bit the part.'"
The number 1 rated left tackle isnt tough physically or mentally! Yes this is the guy i want protecting my quarterbacks left side!
2. Jason Smith Baylor 6'4 305 negatives : "technique is spotty after and will need refining. Could play with more consistent pad level and leverage."
"loaded with upside, excellent athlete"
3. Andre Smith Alabama 6'3 340 negatives : "Weight has fluctuated too often and he tends to balloon in the offseason. Not a foot technician and tends to shuffle and slide instead of kicksliding. Can be late off the ball and tends to get lackadaisical and sloppy with technique. Not a polished protector. Wears down late in games. Questionable makeup to handle distractions that come with the NFL. Questionable character, suspended for sugar bowl against Utah for dealing with an agent."
but they say he has "excellent overall mass with very good hip quickness and agility"
So Andre Smith has questionable character, sloppy, not polished and not disciplined, yet his going slotted at 3 compared to Alex Boone who they said lacked maturity issues and fail to say why they think that he will struggle mentally and is ranked 19.
4. Michael Oher Ole Miss 6'5 305: negatives "Average lateral quickness to slide, shuffle and mirror. Inconsistent hand placement and punch. Technique will need refinement. Looks distinterested at times and can be late to recognize the blitz. Has been coddled throughout college and his desire and passion for the game are iffy. Questionable football intelligence."
but they say "has the physical talent to line up at left tackle"
wait we have a black tackle with average lateral quickness but also doesnt have desire to play the game, but i guess he deserves to be rated higher just because. What a bunch of crap. He must also be rated high because he "looks the part"
7. William Beatty Connecticut negatives 6'6 291 pounds : "plays too soft. Does not have passion for the game. "needs to be challenged". lacks mental toughness. Does not play with power or nastiness. Does not have a mean bone in his body. Not competitive, plays like a cake eating chardonay drinker who does not want to get his finger nails dirty" (thats their analysis not mine)
but they say "he looks the part with a big long armed frame and agility" "extremely athletic"
Yet with all of these negatives hes ranked higher than Troy Kropog whose positives are "good athlete with natural movement skills" "plays smart" "very good work ethic, football is important to him." "good lateral agility" "good blitz recognition"
9. Jamon Merdith South Carolina 6'4 289 pounds "not tough, lacks passion for the game and is motivated for the wrong reasons. Locker-room lawyer" "does not like to condition his body. Too many mental lapses show up in his game. Needs to play with more awareness and do a better job sustaining blocks. Cake-eater, users too much finesse and does not like to get dirty. Does not play with explosion or use his hands with authority, cannot play through pain, lacks mental toughness, was benched as a senior."
but "has good athletic ability
10. Phil Loadholt Oklahoma 6'8 343 pounds, negatives "does not have foot quickness or agility to consitently handle edge speed, struggles to strike a moving target. Not nasty and does not finish blocks the way scouts like. Consistently late into blocks and does not power off the ball or move defenders the way hes expected." "Character needs to be examined with two alcohol related arrests."
but he has "excellent size with long arms"
I cant believe people are getting paid to write this crap. Its just a bunch of garbage
All of these soft guys projected to go in the first or second rounds because they "look the part" and have "upside" despite most of them having no desire to play football
Edited by: dwid