NFL 2014 Week 2

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League Leaders Snapshot

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Wow, when is the last time we have seen or next time we'll ever see this image???? Nice week so far. Too bad Gerhart is sucking so far. Hopefull, my birds win tonight and add Coop, Ertz and Foles to the mix. Riley's due for a biggie tonight.
 

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Wow, when is the last time we have seen or next time we'll ever see this image???? Nice week so far. Too bad Gerhart is sucking so far. Hopefull, my birds win tonight and add Coop, Ertz and Foles to the mix. Riley's due for a biggie tonight.

Great screen shot!

Earlier in the season, I wrote that after Toby Gerhart, Jordy Nelson was the most important white athlete to our cause in 2014. After two weeks, this former walk-on (go figure) at Kansas State is already leading the NFL in receiving by a large margin. The closest a white WR has come to leading the league in receiving yards was Wes Welker in 2011-2012, however, Calvin Johnson eclipsed him in the final game. This son of a farmer in rural Kansas is our best chance…

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I believe that Johnson is the only WR on the planet who is better than Nelson. That said, Jordy seems to have better straight-line speed after catching the ball, whereas Johnson frequently gets caught from behind on long receptions.

The aspect of Jordy’s game that separates him from almost every other white WR of the past is that he doesn’t seem to take many big hits. Let’s hope for a record-breaking, injury-free campaign!
 

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Wow, when is the last time we have seen or next time we'll ever see this image???? Nice week so far. Too bad Gerhart is sucking so far. Hopefull, my birds win tonight and add Coop, Ertz and Foles to the mix. Riley's due for a biggie tonight.
MrPoon and fromhungary (a big welcome to CF by the way), I was going to post the same screen shot but you guys beat me to it. It really is great to see! Maybe I was being too cynical about the season so far. Whites are kicking butt and blacks are getting injured or suspended at high rates. Let's hope Philly dominates tonight.
 

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Great start of the year for Jordy Nelson. He now has 30 targets in 2 games = 15 targets per game. Prior to this year, he had career 445 targets in his first 89 games = 5 targets per game. Even the 3 years previous to this, while he was already a known pro bowl receiver, he only had 295 targets in 44 games = 6.7 targets per game. At 29 years old, he is finally getting his targets, and he should have a monster year.
 

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It's to early for me to start worrying about Gerhart. The jags oline needs to sync up and mesh as a unit. They gave up a ton of sacks. I think they also need to hand the reins over to bortles. Defenses don't seem to respect henne so they seem to be stacking the line and daring henne to beat them with his arm.

Hillis not having a single touch through 2 games is a little more maddening. He established himself as a reliable receiver and safety blanket for Eli. The giants other running backs are nothing special.

Woodhead was utilized and the chargers beat the coal black Seahawks yesterday which is an early season caste victory IMO.

I can't get enough of conte's Int. What a great play. I hope his injury isn't serious.
 

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It's to early for me to start worrying about Gerhart. The jags oline needs to sync up and mesh as a unit. They gave up a ton of sacks. I think they also need to hand the reins over to bortles. Defenses don't seem to respect henne so they seem to be stacking the line and daring henne to beat them with his arm.

Hillis not having a single touch through 2 games is a little more maddening. He established himself as a reliable receiver and safety blanket for Eli. The giants other running backs are nothing special.

Woodhead was utilized and the chargers beat the coal black Seahawks yesterday which is an early season caste victory IMO.

I can't get enough of conte's Int. What a great play. I hope his injury isn't serious.

It just stinks the Patriots or some other team with an O-line didn't grab him first. The Jaguars could ruin a potentially great career.
 

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With only his 6th reception of the year, TE Jason Witten (885 rec.), moves past Keenan McCardell for 16th on the all time receiving list. Next up, Torry Holt, 920. Would like to see Witten get into the top 10 before his career is over, but it will be a slow process if Dallas stops utilizing his talent!

The top active white reception leaders:

16. Witten, 885
25. Welker, 841
117. Clark, 505, I thought Clark retired?
141. H. Miller, 473
207. Stokley, 397, still listed as active?
210. G. Olsen. 395, Moves past Owen Daniels fro 210th
213. O. Daniels, 394, Any news on him?

You need 367 recs. to crack the top 250. Next to make the list is: to the best of my knowledge.

Zach Miller, 326
Jordy Nelson, 320
Brian Hartline, 266
Rob Gronkowski, 234
Eric Decker, 231
Edelman, 186
Pitta, 135

I hate that the likes of Ryan Spadola was cut as well as several other great white WR's. We need more young white WR's to fill the shoes of Nelson, Decker, Hartline, etc. as they are fast approaching their 30's!

I have been focusing a lot my attention on MLB and the PGA. Who are some of the under 25 white WR's currently on NFL teams. I know about Dallas' Cole Beasley. Who else?
 
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Rex Ryan on Jordy during the post-game interview: “He was Jerry Rice out there today.”

A nice compliment, for sure. But fear not, for the ignorance of the Caste System’s DWF minions never ceases to mystify. Check out this obtuse quote from some brainiac named “Justis Mosqueda” writing for Bleecher Report…

Why isn't Nelson getting the respect he deserves for his production? Sure, he's not as big as Vincent Jackson or Marshall. Sure, he's not as fast as Julio Jones or Antonio Brown. Comparable players based on height and speed are Bryant, Alshon Jeffery and Josh Gordon. They all made the 2013 Pro Bowl.

Jordy isn’t as fast as Antonio Brown? Nelson ran a 4.51-second 40 and Brown ran a 4.47-second 40. 4/100 of second difference.

And he continues to administer backhanded compliments/digs whilst comparing Jordy to Jerry Rice...

In Jerry Rice, Willie Totten—Rice's quarterback at Mississippi Valley State—said that Rice "wasn't that fast, but he worked real hard. If you were the fastest guy on the team, he wanted to race you. He lost a lot of races, but he ran the best routes and was the hardest worker on the team."

That's Nelson. He's not flashy, but he's consistently good. That should be respected.

Ahh, I see! Jordy “isn’t the fastest guy on the team” and he’s “not flashy,” but he makes up for it by being the best route-runner and the hardest worker on the team. He is a white WR, so that is the only logical explanation for his endless humiliation of black athletes. For God's sake, how many top cornerbacks/safeties does this guy have to burn for 80+ yard scores before he’s considered a top NFL deep threat?

Link:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...to-nfls-elite-with-monster-week-2-performance
 
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I wouldn't worry about Gerhart's starting job being in jeopardy yet. Jacksonville's offense has been horrible in all phases. Teams are stacking the box to stop the run, and Toby has been playing on a sore ankle, which hopefully will continue to get better. Even Weenieworld is still writing positively about Gerhart.

Was just reading the sports section, which, like the rest of all sections of all large newspapers in the U.S., is filled with articles by Associated Press, the monopoly "news service" that is very important in steering the party line on every issue of the day.

The headline of the AP article on the Chargers-Seahawks game (newspapers have discretion to title AP articles as they wish) is "Chargers' Open Gates Takes Down Seahawks." It's filled with hosannas to Antonio Gates, who had three TD receptions with his third being a particularly outstanding catch. Philip Rivers' role in the big upset is minimized by comparison, even though Rivers played masterfully the entire game.

So to be consistent, one would think that the Packers-Jets game would similarly focus on Jordy Nelson's performance. Well, no. "Rodgers Rallies Packers vs. Jets" is the headline, with Nelson's 80 yard TD being mentioned early along with the obligatory quote about how Jordy "gets overlooked." Still overlooked in spite of his magnificent talent and production.

Nelson isn't mentioned again until the end of the article, where we read, "Rodgers finished 25 of 42 with 346 yards, Nelson had nine catches and Randall Cobb finished with five catches for 39 yards. Cobb caught two short scoring strikes. . ."

Nelson's 200 plus yards receiving weren't deemed worthy of mention by AP anywhere in the article. Such "subtle" (not subtle at all to those who are awake) steering of perceptions and attitudes is ingrained in virtually all newspaper articles, TV "news," commercials, mass entertainment, etc.
 

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The Cleveland Browns’ win with their White o-line over New Orleans was delightful. At one point prissy Sean Payton was screaming at defensive coordinator, Rob Ryan. :biggrin: Paul Kruger made a huge play when he hit Drew Brees causing his pass to sail and be intercepted and then return for a TD.
 

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I would've never expected a blurb like this from Roto:

Toby Gerhart rushed seven times for eight yards and caught two passes for nine yards in Sunday's 41-10 Week 2 loss at Washington.


It's not pretty for Gerhart right now. The Jaguars offensive line is playing like a bottom-five unit, the box is getting stacked because of Chad Henne's ineptitude, Gerhart's athleticism has been sapped by an ankle issue and the Jags aren't sustaining drives into the red zone. Through two games, he's rushed 25 times 50 yards (2.0 YPC) with no touchdowns. The good news is that Gerhart remains the clear-cut three-down back and gets to face the Colts at home next week. There's some buy-low appeal here as we anticipate Blake Bortles getting into the lineup.

My personal opinion is that despite the play of the Oline and a lack of passing game, 1.1 yards/carry is simply unacceptable. Great RBs find ways to make things happen, and while we cannot expect Gerhart to average 5.0 ypc, he needs to break a run here and there, which may help the passing attack, and vice-versa.
 

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I would've never expected a blurb like this from Roto:

Toby Gerhart rushed seven times for eight yards and caught two passes for nine yards in Sunday's 41-10 Week 2 loss at Washington.


It's not pretty for Gerhart right now. The Jaguars offensive line is playing like a bottom-five unit, the box is getting stacked because of Chad Henne's ineptitude, Gerhart's athleticism has been sapped by an ankle issue and the Jags aren't sustaining drives into the red zone. Through two games, he's rushed 25 times 50 yards (2.0 YPC) with no touchdowns. The good news is that Gerhart remains the clear-cut three-down back and gets to face the Colts at home next week. There's some buy-low appeal here as we anticipate Blake Bortles getting into the lineup.

My personal opinion is that despite the play of the Oline and a lack of passing game, 1.1 yards/carry is simply unacceptable. Great RBs find ways to make things happen, and while we cannot expect Gerhart to average 5.0 ypc, he needs to break a run here and there, which may help the passing attack, and vice-versa.

i agree on both counts, a completely unexpected blurb from rotoworld and Toby somehow needs to find a way. it's not going to get much easier for him, realistically. so he needs to help himself.

on RG3, reading NFL.com comments today under the article that his ankle injury is not that serious, so it's positive for Redskins most, and I'd say 80% said it is positive, for their opponents.. .looks like most everyone is on board of Cousins train!
 

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If Griffin were white, he'd be getting the Tebow treatment

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He should NOT have turned his shirt inside out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH MANY SO-CALLED CHRISTIANS!! WIMPS BACKING DOWN. Discusting!
 

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I would've never expected a blurb like this from Roto:

Toby Gerhart rushed seven times for eight yards and caught two passes for nine yards in Sunday's 41-10 Week 2 loss at Washington.


It's not pretty for Gerhart right now. The Jaguars offensive line is playing like a bottom-five unit, the box is getting stacked because of Chad Henne's ineptitude, Gerhart's athleticism has been sapped by an ankle issue and the Jags aren't sustaining drives into the red zone. Through two games, he's rushed 25 times 50 yards (2.0 YPC) with no touchdowns. The good news is that Gerhart remains the clear-cut three-down back and gets to face the Colts at home next week. There's some buy-low appeal here as we anticipate Blake Bortles getting into the lineup.

My personal opinion is that despite the play of the Oline and a lack of passing game, 1.1 yards/carry is simply unacceptable. Great RBs find ways to make things happen, and while we cannot expect Gerhart to average 5.0 ypc, he needs to break a run here and there, which may help the passing attack, and vice-versa.
well in order for Gerhart to bust out a run he kind of has to get more than 7 carries. He got more in the first week but hurt his ankle and probably shouldnt have came back in the game, but then there is the catch 22 for White players, do they play hurt and risk injuring it further and or playing poorly ? or risk losing their job to some afflete? because weve seen Whites lose their starting job to injury, and a White rb wouldnt be any different, probably a bigger chance. Denard Robinson might have 1 fluke play and thats all she wrote (although it might be hard given the situation), so hopefully Gerhart is the one to break off a big run soon, although he is known more for breaking off a ton of 10 to 20 yarders he has had some big runs in the NFL. I remember Leonard having a low ypc for the Rams with Bulger out and FOUR starting olinemen out, Steven Jackson came in and averaged a similar ypc for that situation and never started again as a halfback, always a "passing back" that blocked and caught a few checkdowns.


and how exactly is Calvin Johnson better than Jordy? in what way? Jordy is the best wr in the NFL right now in my personal opinon. He might be a few inches shorter but hes still like 6'3, blazing speed to take it deep, great hands, great leaping ability, quickness to make guys miss (something dwfs...I mean draft gurus dissed him on because he had track speed they said ""he can run in a straight line fast but it takes sun dial to time him changing directions") can make acrobatic catches where its unbelievable how he got 2 feet in bounds. I dunno how he timed 4.51 (although i thought it was 4.49) Iwhen he ran a 10.6 100 meter dash in high school (which is the same time as Hester) oh and not to mention his route running and work ethic combined with his athleticism is what makes him elite but those 2 are mentioned way too much and not enough about athleticism. HOFer but who knows if he gets in being White and the numbers that people are putting up now in the passing game. If he is targeted like this he will definetly stand out from the rest, on pace for 2296 yards right now, highly unlikely to keep having 200 yards a game but would need 140 per game, would be cool to see him break the 2k mark which is what calvin johnson was close to doing. He would have to average around 123 per game for the rest of the season to break 2k

Maybe im just racially biased though ;)
 
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He should NOT have turned his shirt inside out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH MANY SO-CALLED CHRISTIANS!! WIMPS BACKING DOWN. Discusting!


Hold on BeyondFedUp! I respect you and your stand for Christ, but this doesn't necessarily mean RGIII is a so-called Christian.

Jesus said to Peter, "Truly, I tell you, this very night, before the rooster crows, you will deny me three times." Matthew; 26:34.

Even Peter denied Christ in his lifetime.

We all are sinners and at one time or another most Christians if they're honest, have not made a stand for Jesus. I know in my own life, I haven't always been there for HIM, but the good news is he's always there for us.

"And be sure of this: I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Matthew; 28:20.

I have gained some respect for RGIII for even attempting to wear a JESUS shirt.
 

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Eagles offense appears to have 7, maybe 8 whites! Colts defence entirely black except for one, I think.
 

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The announcers seem hell bent to continually remind everyone that Foles struggled for one half of football in the first game of the season and are trying their hardest to write him off as a one year wonder.
 

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Hold on BeyondFedUp! I respect you and your stand for Christ, but this doesn't necessarily mean RGIII is a so-called Christian.

Jesus said to Peter, "Truly, I tell you, this very night, before the rooster crows, you will deny me three times." Matthew; 26:34.

Even Peter denied Christ in his lifetime.

We all are sinners and at one time or another most Christians if they're honest, have not made a stand for Jesus. I know in my own life, I haven't always been there for HIM, but the good news is he's always there for us.

"And be sure of this: I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Matthew; 28:20.

I have gained some respect for RGIII for even attempting to wear a JESUS shirt.

I agree with you CS and know you are my brother in the faith, in that we all have not stood at one time or another. However, Peter was probably more worried about getting arrested and possibly killed that night of Christ's arrest, whereas RG3 on Sunday at the press conference was more worried about offending Jews in the media, not being PC, and losing endorsement deals $$$. Tebow was much bolder.
 

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Eagles offense appears to have 7, maybe 8 whites! Colts defence entirely black except for one, I think.

Bjoern Werner is the lone saltine on the Colts' D.
 

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Sproles and McCoy being outclassed by Richardson is screwing Foles over. Though its also making Luck look better than he has this game.
 

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Has Griff Whalen always returned punts and kicks for the Colts?

Looks like this may be a blow out for the Colts. Foles should have looked Cooper's way more often.
 

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Has Griff Whalen always returned punts and kicks for the Colts?

Looks like this may be a blow out for the Colts. Foles should have looked Cooper's way more often.

Scratch that blowout. I forgot how pathetic black defenses are. Some butter fingers by our fellas is making Foles look bad. Two easy drops, one for a TD, but Philly still scored.
 

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Matthews makes brief appearance then yanked for someone darker.
 

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Great win by PHI! This team winning it all is the best team for our cause. It has to be said, Sporels is the the best pound for pound RB in the league right now.
 
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