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The boxing schedule this weekend. Alimkhanuly vs Mikhailovich is the headliner. It should be a good fight. Nick Ball is also fighting this weekend. He is always in an action fight.

Oct. 4: Sydney, Australia (ESPN+)​

  • Title fight: Janibek Alimkhanuly vs. Andrei Mikhailovich, 12 rounds, for Alimkhanuly's IBF middleweight title
  • Mea Motu vs. Shannon O'Connell, 8 rounds, women's featherweights
  • Charlie Kazzi vs. Lui Magaiva, 8 rounds, lightweights
  • Wayne Telepe vs. Bashir Nassir, 4 rounds, lightweights

Oct. 5: Liverpool, England (ESPN+)​

  • Title fight: Nick Ball vs. Ronny Rios, 12 rounds, for Ball's WBA featherweight title
  • Jack Rafferty vs. Henry Turner, 12 rounds, for the British junior welterweight title
  • Jack Turner vs. Gonzalo Corinaldesi, 6 rounds, bantamweights
  • Jadier Herrera vs. Oliver Flores, 10 rounds, lightweights
  • Walter Fury vs. Dale Arrowsmith, 4 rounds, junior middleweights
  • Andrew Cain vs. Lazaro Casseres, 12 rounds, bantamweights
  • Joe Cooper vs. Lukasz Barabasz, 4 rounds, middleweights
  • Brad Strand vs. Marvin Solano, 10 rounds, junior featherweights
  • James McGivern vs. Reuquen Arce, 8 rounds, lightweights
  • Nelson Birchall vs. Mark Butler, 6 rounds, junior lightweights
  • Boma Brown vs. Amine Boucetta, 6 rounds, heavyweights
  • Lucas Biswana vs, Jakub Laskowski, 4 rounds, junior welterweights
 

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Alemkhanuly stops Mikhailovich in the 9th round. He had Mikhailovich out on his feet in the 2nd, but he hung tough until the 9th. The ref stopped after Miikhailovich took a left putting him into the ropes.
 

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Alemkhanuly stops Mikhailovich in the 9th round. He had Mikhailovich out on his feet in the 2nd, but he hung tough until the 9th. The ref stopped after Miikhailovich took a left putting him into the ropes.
I saw a pirate copy of this fight and the referee was well within his rights to stop the fight in the 2nd round as aside from fatigue and punishment the naturalized Kiwi looked worse in that situation than he did in the 9th round IMO.

Yes Nick Ball fights tomorrow and should be in another all action fight with his build and dimensions he cannot help but brawl with naturally longer opponents.

The Ball fight is the only world level bout on the card and the rest of the card is filled with prospects if I watch the card I could comment on a prospect with world level potential.

Updating the Ball fight and Ball stopped his veteran opponent in a showcase bout. I missed the bout but from what I read from the wire reports he scored two knockdowns but he had a bit of lull in intensity and his Mexican-American opponent won a few middle rounds and bloodied his nose before Ball cranked up the intensity and stopped Rios.

Rumors are Ball may fight the Monster in 2025 if the Japanese sensation decides to test the waters at 126 pounds. The fight could be an instant classic if Ball can whether the power of the Japanese pound for pound fighter.
 
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It's a great card this weekend that everyone has been looking forward to, Beterbiev vs Bivol. For me, it is one of the most exciting LHW fights since the 80s. A great weekend of boxing, I hope. Boxer vs puncher and anything can happen.

OCTOBER​

Oct. 12: Riyadh, Saudi Arabia (Main event on ESPN+, undercard on DAZN)​

  • Title fight: Artur Beterbiev vs. Dmitry Bivol, 12 rounds, for Beterbiev's WBC, WBO and IBF light heavyweight titles and Bivol's WBA light heavyweight title
  • Fabio Wardley vs. Frazer Clarke, 12 rounds, for the British heavyweight title
  • Title fight: Jai Opetaia vs. Jack Massey, 12 rounds, for Opetaia's IBF cruiserweight title
  • Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Kamil Szeremeta, 12 rounds, middleweights
  • Title fight: Skye Nicolson vs. Raven Chapman, 10 rounds, for Nicolson's WBC featherweight title
  • Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron, 10 rounds, light heavyweights
  • Mohammed Alakel vs. Jesus Gonzalez, 4 rounds, lightweights

Oct. 12: Aichi, Japan​

  • Title fight: Sivenathi Nontshinga vs. Masamichi Yabuki, 12 rounds, for Nontshinga's IBF junior flyweight title
  • Roldan Aldea vs. Ei Go, 8 rounds, lightweights
  • Ryo Mandokoro vs. Alvin Camique, 8 rounds, junior banatamweights
  • Hayate Hanada vs. Denmark Quibido, 8 rounds, junior bantamweights
  • Anucha Tongbau vs. Tom Mizokoshi, 8 rounds, junior featherweights
  • Perapol Puangkeaw vs. Kenta Kamimura, 6 rounds, junior middleweights
  • Rikito Irita vs. Kumpha Aryamueang, 6 rounds, flyweights
  • Shoichiro Tsukita vs. Kenta Nakazato, 4 rounds, lightweights
  • Shota Fujimoto vs. Shunta Miyazato, 4 rounds, featherweights

Oct. 12: Newark, New Jersey​

  • Emmanuel Rodriguez vs. Khalid Twaiti, 10 rounds, bantamweights
  • Michael Anderson vs. TBA, 10 rounds, welterweights
  • Terell Bostic vs. Michael Lee, 8 rounds, junior welterweights
  • Anthony Johns vs. TBA, 6 rounds, flyweights
  • Jean Pierre Valencia vs. TBA, 4 rounds, junior middleweights
  • Justin Palmieri vs. TBA, 4 rounds, lightweights

Oct. 13: Tokyo (ESPN+)​

  • Takuma Inoue vs. Seiya Tsutsumi, 12 rounds, bantamweights
  • Title fight: Shokichi Iwata vs. Jairo Noriega, 12 rounds, for the vacant WBO junior flyweight title
  • Title fight: Kenshiro Teraji vs. Cristofer Rosales, 12 rounds, for the vacant WBC flyweight title
  • Seigo Yuri Akui vs. Thananchai Charunphak, 12 rounds, flyweights
 

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It's a great card this weekend that everyone has been looking forward to, Beterbiev vs Bivol. For me, it is one of the most exciting LHW fights since the 80s. A great weekend of boxing, I hope. Boxer vs puncher and anything can happen.

OCTOBER​

Oct. 12: Riyadh, Saudi Arabia (Main event on ESPN+, undercard on DAZN)​

  • Title fight: Artur Beterbiev vs. Dmitry Bivol, 12 rounds, for Beterbiev's WBC, WBO and IBF light heavyweight titles and Bivol's WBA light heavyweight title
  • Fabio Wardley vs. Frazer Clarke, 12 rounds, for the British heavyweight title
  • Title fight: Jai Opetaia vs. Jack Massey, 12 rounds, for Opetaia's IBF cruiserweight title
  • Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Kamil Szeremeta, 12 rounds, middleweights
  • Title fight: Skye Nicolson vs. Raven Chapman, 10 rounds, for Nicolson's WBC featherweight title
  • Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron, 10 rounds, light heavyweights
  • Mohammed Alakel vs. Jesus Gonzalez, 4 rounds, lightweights

Oct. 12: Aichi, Japan​

  • Title fight: Sivenathi Nontshinga vs. Masamichi Yabuki, 12 rounds, for Nontshinga's IBF junior flyweight title
  • Roldan Aldea vs. Ei Go, 8 rounds, lightweights
  • Ryo Mandokoro vs. Alvin Camique, 8 rounds, junior banatamweights
  • Hayate Hanada vs. Denmark Quibido, 8 rounds, junior bantamweights
  • Anucha Tongbau vs. Tom Mizokoshi, 8 rounds, junior featherweights
  • Perapol Puangkeaw vs. Kenta Kamimura, 6 rounds, junior middleweights
  • Rikito Irita vs. Kumpha Aryamueang, 6 rounds, flyweights
  • Shoichiro Tsukita vs. Kenta Nakazato, 4 rounds, lightweights
  • Shota Fujimoto vs. Shunta Miyazato, 4 rounds, featherweights

Oct. 12: Newark, New Jersey​

  • Emmanuel Rodriguez vs. Khalid Twaiti, 10 rounds, bantamweights
  • Michael Anderson vs. TBA, 10 rounds, welterweights
  • Terell Bostic vs. Michael Lee, 8 rounds, junior welterweights
  • Anthony Johns vs. TBA, 6 rounds, flyweights
  • Jean Pierre Valencia vs. TBA, 4 rounds, junior middleweights
  • Justin Palmieri vs. TBA, 4 rounds, lightweights

Oct. 13: Tokyo (ESPN+)​

  • Takuma Inoue vs. Seiya Tsutsumi, 12 rounds, bantamweights
  • Title fight: Shokichi Iwata vs. Jairo Noriega, 12 rounds, for the vacant WBO junior flyweight title
  • Title fight: Kenshiro Teraji vs. Cristofer Rosales, 12 rounds, for the vacant WBC flyweight title
  • Seigo Yuri Akui vs. Thananchai Charunphak, 12 rounds, flyweights
Yes it is the first undisputed fight since Spinks vs Braxton in 83'. That one was a dud but this fight does not have the size difference between the two fighters.

Traditionally champions have avoided each other in this division because of the poor pay for unification fights. Also compared to the heavyweight division so more champions have been prone at the feet of heavyweight champions than have defended their titles due to the higher pay for challenging for the heavyweight title rather than defending the light heavyweight title. Among my earliest boxing memories was watching Bob Foster getting repeatedly dropped by Ali in is quest for a heavyweight title fight.

For those that are thinking of betting the fight historically the better boxer beats the better puncher but it is hard to bet against Beterbiev and his perfect knockout streak.


Jack Massey is in tough against Opetai and in theory his best hope would be to jump on the smaller boxer but I have not seen the knockout power against European level opponents to think this a realistic scenario. He may have to turn this fight into dog fight and make it ugly similar to his upset of Chamberlin to have a chance at winning this one.

The Pole is probably a human target against Eubank. The greatest line I have heard about Eubank is when are they taking off the training wheels and he is 34 years old and still is reluctant to fight elite opponents. Eubank is rumored to be a Alvarez opponent if Alvarez signs with the Saudi promotional company headed by the crown prince.

PS Kevin Lerena was upgraded to full WBC Bridgerweight champion as Okolie vacated the title to chase a big money heavyweight fight. This could be a golden ticket for Lerena if the rumors are true that Wilder will fight on as I could see Wilder challenging the South African for this strap as the winner of this fight could leap frog less known opponents into a big money fight. Either way Lerena would get paid well if the Saudi promotional company is involved.
 
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I think Beterbiev should win, he is a very strong puncher but also a good technician in his own right, but hes getting older, I am slightly biased towards Beterbiev in this matchup.
 

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I'm going with Beterbiev. Joe Smith really hurt Bivol. Beterbiev hits harder than Smith, and no matter how good a boxer Bivol is, he is not going to get through an entire fight with Beterbiev without getting hit hard. Beterbiev is underrated as a boxer.
 

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I'm going with Beterbiev. Joe Smith really hurt Bivol. Beterbiev hits harder than Smith, and no matter how good a boxer Bivol is, he is not going to get through an entire fight with Beterbiev without getting hit hard. Beterbiev is underrated as a boxer.
That's what I've been thinking. But I think Beterbiev has been buzzed a time or two so with Bivol's skills the chance that Beterbiev catches a punch he doesn't see coming is there.

Great match-up.
 

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Beterbiev by close decision.

Beterviev is due to age out while Bivol's stock took no big hit with this debatable loss.
This honestly should've been Bivol's win, especially after the 12th round where he landed flush a lot of combinations and the body shot that hurt Beterbiev
This was a 7-5 Bivol or a draw
 

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Bivol probably slightly won, he was courageous and took the fight to Beterbiev landing clean combinations, I had it a draw immediately after, my opinion may change again.

Maybe Bivol goes to 168 or rematch.
 

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Great fight. I had Beterbiev the rightful winner in a close fight.

That's what elite boxing is all about.
 

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I can't believe people could watch that fight and think Bivol won. Beterbiev clearly won. I think people are afraid of Beterbiev. They lose their objectivity when they watch him fight.

Bivol survived because, as said above, Beterbiev has aged out.
 

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I had Beterbiev barely edging this one out or a draw but I only scored this roughly in my head. It seemed after the first 3 rounds Bivol slowed down and the Chechen bomber started to dictate the terms of the bout and that made the difference in the end IMO. You have to give Bivol credit for going the distance as nobody has withstood this much punishment from the Chechen before.

If ever a fight warranted a rematch it was this fight and the financial terms will be easy to finance for the Saudis as it was rumored that both boxers earned 10million US for their bout.

PS I never thought Frazer Clarke had any brain cells to spare but after the violent beating he took in his first round tko loss he may not know what is up or down anymore. Could someone offer him his old security job for Copper Box Arena events, he should never go near a ring with gloves on again after that ghastly loss against Wardley.

I missed most of the undercard bouts less the Clarke massacre but if I have time I could summarize the White boxers results on the Saudi card.
 

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I scored the Beterbiev Bivol fight a draw but I'd have to go back and rewatch in order to score round by round. I think Beterbiev looked his age in this fight as it seemed like he was passive at times and choosing when to be aggressive in order to conserve his energy. Bivol looked every bit of an elite fighter but I think the power was too much for him to do what he did against Canelo. Beterbiev definitely had Bivol hurt in one of the earlier rounds with a body shot and it seemed like he didn't go back to the body until later in the fight which was a mistake in my opinion. Either way it was a great fight and as much as I want to see a rematch, I think Bivol would be better to put this one to rest. Going the distance against a puncher like Beterbiev can take a lot out of a fighter and shorten their career. I think Bivol still has some good years left and would prefer to see him move on and win some caste matchups.

The Frazer knockout was pretty embarrassing as he looked like a slack jawed zombie sitting against the ropes. I agree that he shouldn't be anywhere near a ring after that performance. I don't see Wardley being a world beater as he will be easily out boxed by an Usyk type, but he is being hyped by the Brits who are always hungry to have world level boxers at heavyweight.

I only caught 2 other fights on this card which were the Massey/Opetaia and Eubank Jr/Szeremeta fights. Both white fighters lost, looking like punching bags so not much to comment on. Eubank Jr beat up on an older Polish fighter who has a decent resume but is way past his prime and has very little power. Tall lanky white Brit Jack Massey lost to Jai Opetaia with his corner throwing in the towel in the 6th. Opetaia is a very good cruiserweight in my opinion and I thought Jack Massey would put up more of a fight but he seemed to just fold after a few rounds and give up.
 

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British LHW Ben Whittaker faked his way out of a loss by pretending to be hurt after falling over the top rope with Cameron on top of him. Replays show that his foot was never landing on or hit the floor. He then was taken to the locker room in a wheelchair.
 

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I scored the Beterbiev Bivol fight a draw but I'd have to go back and rewatch in order to score round by round. I think Beterbiev looked his age in this fight as it seemed like he was passive at times and choosing when to be aggressive in order to conserve his energy. Bivol looked every bit of an elite fighter but I think the power was too much for him to do what he did against Canelo. Beterbiev definitely had Bivol hurt in one of the earlier rounds with a body shot and it seemed like he didn't go back to the body until later in the fight which was a mistake in my opinion. Either way it was a great fight and as much as I want to see a rematch, I think Bivol would be better to put this one to rest. Going the distance against a puncher like Beterbiev can take a lot out of a fighter and shorten their career. I think Bivol still has some good years left and would prefer to see him move on and win some caste matchups.
The Frazer knockout was pretty embarrassing as he looked like a slack jawed zombie sitting against the ropes. I agree that he shouldn't be anywhere near a ring after that performance. I don't see Wardley being a world beater as he will be easily out boxed by an Usyk type, but he is being hyped by the Brits who are always hungry to have world level boxers at heavyweight.

I only caught 2 other fights on this card which were the Massey/Opetaia and Eubank Jr/Szeremeta fights. Both white fighters lost, looking like punching bags so not much to comment on. Eubank Jr beat up on an older Polish fighter who has a decent resume but is way past his prime and has very little power. Tall lanky white Brit Jack Massey lost to Jai Opetaia with his corner throwing in the towel in the 6th. Opetaia is a very good cruiserweight in my opinion and I thought Jack Massey would put up more of a fight but he seemed to just fold after a few rounds and give up.
I never bothered to comment on the two White fighters losses as I basically concurred with you on what unfolded.

I just finished watching the Whitaker debacle against the Scottish journeyman. We will find out what his management team views of his ability, if this Saturday was viewed as an off night they will probably give Cameron a rematch. Otherwise it will be weaker journeyman than the Scot in the future for the prospect.

PS The crown prince released the video of the main event...

PS2 This is what I speculated about this weekend Lerena has an open invitation for Wilder to challenge him for the Bridgerweight division title. There is a previous case of Leon Spinks having similar results to Wilder and his recent run at heavyweight and challenging Qawi for his WBA Junior Heavyweight title(Spinks failed miserably). One difference is Wilder will be compensated well for trying to win the newly formed title and he will not have weight draining problems that Spinks had as he has basically weighed in at Bridgerweight weight totals for most of his career.

Lerena will have a very winnable fight with the form Wilder has shown recently and the Wilder camp will feel that this might be the only opponent that Wilder can beat at the moment. https://www.boxingscene.com/deontay-wilder-invited-bridgerweight-face-kevin-lerena-wbc-title--186491
 
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A full weekend of boxing this week featuring Tszyu vs Murtazaliev on Amazon Prime. Peacock and Sky Sports will also carry a card this week featuring Azim vs Ohara Davies. Vladlimir Shishkin vs William Scull for vacant IBF LHW Championship.
 
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A full weekend of boxing this week featuring Tszyu vs Murtazaliev on Amazon Prime. Peacock and Sky Sports will also carry a card this week featuring Azim vs Ohara Davies. Vladlimir Shishkin vs William Scull for vacant IBF LHW Championship.
The Tszyu vs Murtazaliev fight will be on Prime and is in Orlando Florida at a casino I assume. It's a strange venue considering neither fighter is based out of the area (as far as I know). The Muslim Russian is a bit of mystery to me in terms of his ability but he did win his title in Germany against a local favorite so he is a road warrior. This fight should be the best fight of the weekend.

Azim vs Davies doesn't have many White prospects on it and the time conflicts with the Scull vs Shiskin clash which will be on DAZN. Both Scull and Shiskin are mysteries to me but Scull is promoted by German promoters so if the fight is close and hears the final bell Shiskin will probably get the short end of the stick against the Afro-Cuban.

PS The legendary Kotsya Tszyu will be in the entourage for Tim for his title bout. I don't know whether this will be a distraction or a boost but this is the first time Tim physically saw his father since he left Australia to start a new life in Russia with a new wife and Kotsya has been coaching amateur boxers and pro prospects and is a favored citizen of Putin.

Earlier today I saw the Scull vs Shishkin fight while watching another broadcast so my view was weak at best but it seemed that Shiskin was having problems finding the Cuban early and then seemed to win the 3rd and 4th round with the middle rounds being being a toss up but the Russian based out of Detroit seemed to start to rock Scull late in the fight and had Scull ready to go in the 12th round but the Cuban spit out his mouth piece and saved a good 30 seconds and then feigned rabbit punches for any head shot that landed after that.

Even if the referee deducted a point for blatantly spitting out the mouth piece according to the official cards Scull would have still won a unanimous decision. Since I wasn't fully paying attention to the bout I really can't say if the judging was hometown cooking but the referee should never officiate a world level bout again as that scene in the 12th round was either wildly incompetent or corrupt.

Tonight the unification of the Tszyu clan in Orlando was sullied with a one sided beating of Tim by his Chechen opponent who dropped the aggressive Tszyu 3 times in the 2nd and had him on rubbery legs and ready to go in the 3rd round when his corner stopped the fight.

I completely missed this one as I thought the main event was starting at 11pm EST but the main event started shortly after 10pm and just as I tuned in the ring announcer was announcing the victor and shockingly it was not Tszyu.

He will have a tough rebuild as the first loss could be excused as a boxing equivalent of black swan event but this was an old fashioned beat down. His pops had a similar loss to veteran Vince Phillips 25+ years ago and came back better than ever, this will be a true test on the junior Tszyu as this could not be easily explained away like the other loss.

PS I saw the replay and it seems that Tszyu lost a shootout to the Chechen champion based out of Greater Los Angeles. The fact that Murtazaliev was around 2 " per arm longer might have made the difference in the shoot out as he scored a violent knockdown in the 2nd out drawing Tszyu and then had him on the defensive and scored two subsequent knockdowns while Tszyu was on skates. Tszyu never stopped trying for the knockout and even rocked the Chechen twice in the 3rd round before receiving a near fight ending knock down and securing the Tszyu corner intervention.
 
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Tim Tszyu took it on the chin, on the head, on the body and he went to the canvas 4 times. He took some powerful shots from Murtazaliev. As White is right said Tszyu tried some shots, but it wasn't enough.
 

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The other guy just had Tszyu's number. He took advantage of Tszyu's lack of footwork and head movement and Tim was a sucker for that left hook.

I've seen a lot of guys start dropping off after a loss like this.
 

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A light boxing schedule this weekend, starting tonight. It looks like the Catterall vs Prograis is the main event this week.

October 25: Massachusetts (DAZN)​

  • Rashidi Ellis vs. Brian Chaves; Super welterweight
  • Francis Hogan vs. Elvina Ayala; Middleweight
  • Tommy Hyde vs. Aro Schwartz; Super middleweight
  • Mike Fontanez vs. Bruno Leonard Romay; Super welterweight
  • Joe Bush vs. Keenan Raymond; Welterweight
  • Matt Doherty vs. Eric Palmer; Lightweight
  • Tevin Regis vs. Yeison Berdugo; Lightweight

October 26: Manchester (DAZN)​

  • Jack Catterall vs. Regis Prograis; Super lightweight
  • Reece Bellotti vs. Michael Gomez Jr; Super featherweight
  • Campbell Hatton vs. James Flint; Super lightweight
  • Pat McCormack vs. William Andres Herrera; Welterweight
  • Junaid Bostan vs. Maico Sommariva; Super welterweight
  • William Crolla vs. Lorenzo Grasso; Super welterweight
  • Ste Clarke vs. Mateusz Pawlowski; Middleweight
  • Joe McGrail vs. Lewis Morris; Featherweight
  • Emily Whitworth vs. Sara Orszagi; Bantamweight
 
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