Heisman Trophy Candidate Christian McCaffrey

[Westside]

Too bad McCaffrey didn't win it he was certainly deserving. I saw many posts on the intranet saying he was robbed. Most are attributing it to an SEC and East Coast bias rather than a racial bias. I however think there is a racial basis that creeps into the thinking of the voters in that if a competition is close white'swill generally give blacks the benefit of the doubt as fear of having a white racial bias.

I hope McCaffrey continued success in the future. I worry that his team overused him which can result in the future. I also have concerns for him getting a fair shot in the NFL . He will sure have to overcome the white running back bias and perhaps a Stanford running back bias. Arguably the 2 biggest white running back flops in recent memory are Tommy Vardell and as much as we hate to admit it on this site Toby Gerhart. Both of whom played for Standford. And yes Gerhart did have injuries and a bad offensive line in Jacksonville, but aside from that he has been terrible on Jacksonville. Even Robinson and Yeldon have had some limited degree of success running behind that same line. As much as we would hate to admit it Gerhart has been the poster boy as to why there are no white running backs in the NFL.

Newguy Toby did prove himself when Peterson was injured. He had a number of good games. But, the stars DID NOT align when he signed that contract almost 2 years ago. It will be interesting to see if he wants to play next year.

 

[Don Wassall]

BSPN re-ran the Stanford-USC game from September the other night. I watched for a bit, and the early (anti-white communist) party line as expressed on that broadcast by the always pathetic Todd McGay and the "white" color announcer, didn't catch his name, was that McCaffrey was a nice complimentary piece in that he could "do a little of everything," with blocking of course prominently mentioned. Meanwhile they were both waxing poetic about a black freshman RB, calling him the only big play weapon on the Stanford offense.

I think this stereotyping/downgrading of McCaffrey was mentioned on CF in the weekly thread at the time of the game. But McCaffrey overwhelmed all season long and had so many big plays that eventually the caste media had to begin reluctantly recognizing him, with the bs excuses about playing on the West Coast, etc., none of which were a handicap when they were drooling for years over Reggie Bush.

Christian was complimented a lot on BSPN's endless Heisman show, packed of course with tons of black worshipping -- hell I thought Eddie George was a fourth finalist -- but the continued talk of McCaffrey's ability to "do it all" is a red flag for me. I can see him being pigeonholed in the NFL as an upgraded Rex Burkhead -- runs the ball some, catches the ball as a receiver some, and wow, is he ever a good blocker and just watch him use his non-stop motor and run down the field and make tackles on special teams! Basically a "tweener" of some sort the way Alstott, Burkhead, Leonard and others were not allowed to be pure halfbacks.

 

[Westside]

BSPN re-ran the Stanford-USC game from September the other night. I watched for a bit, and the early (anti-white communist) party line as expressed on that broadcast by the always pathetic Todd McGay and the "white" color announcer, didn't catch his name, was that McCaffrey was a nice complimentary piece in that he could "do a little of everything," with blocking of course prominently mentioned. Meanwhile they were both waxing poetic about a black freshman RB, calling him the only big play weapon on the Stanford offense.

I think this stereotyping/downgrading of McCaffrey was mentioned on CF in the weekly thread at the time of the game. But McCaffrey overwhelmed all season long and had so many big plays that eventually the caste media had to begin reluctantly recognizing him, with the bs excuses about playing on the West Coast, etc., none of which were a handicap when they were drooling for years over Reggie Bush.

Christian was complimented a lot on BSPN's endless Heisman show, packed of course with tons of black worshipping -- hell I thought Eddie George was a fourth finalist -- but the continued talk of McCaffrey's ability to "do it all" is a red flag for me. I can see him being pigeonholed in the NFL as an upgraded Rex Burkhead -- runs the ball some, catches the ball as a receiver some, and wow, is he ever a good blocker and just watch him use his non-stop motor and run down the field and make tackles on special teams! Basically a "tweener" of some sort the way Alstott, Burkhead, Leonard and others were not allowed to be pure halfbacks.

Don the freshman RB they were blabbering about was non other than Barry Sander's son, Christian's back up. LOL

 

[wile]

The overarching issue and concern is the one of LEGITIMACY and the caste whores are losing it. Not even the ineffectual conservatives can seem to save the caste whores legitimacy issues, they are all a joke. They are losing legitimacy, we if you choose to believe it or not are gaining legitimacy.

I'll even script out a possible course of action for those of you obsessed with the latest comings and goings of the clowns on BSPN. Our ideas that an anti-white caste system exists will work upwards into every sport and the inevitable witch hunt against the forces of good (that is us) will do more to spread our ideas than we can. From that our top athletes can start passively resisting by freezing out the worst caste offenders and destroying the caste whores reps within the athletes little sphere.

 

[Leonardfan]

BSPN re-ran the Stanford-USC game from September the other night. I watched for a bit, and the early (anti-white communist) party line as expressed on that broadcast by the always pathetic Todd McGay and the "white" color announcer, didn't catch his name, was that McCaffrey was a nice complimentary piece in that he could "do a little of everything," with blocking of course prominently mentioned. Meanwhile they were both waxing poetic about a black freshman RB, calling him the only big play weapon on the Stanford offense.

I think this stereotyping/downgrading of McCaffrey was mentioned on CF in the weekly thread at the time of the game. But McCaffrey overwhelmed all season long and had so many big plays that eventually the caste media had to begin reluctantly recognizing him, with the bs excuses about playing on the West Coast, etc., none of which were a handicap when they were drooling for years over Reggie Bush.

Christian was complimented a lot on BSPN's endless Heisman show, packed of course with tons of black worshipping -- hell I thought Eddie George was a fourth finalist -- but the continued talk of McCaffrey's ability to "do it all" is a red flag for me. I can see him being pigeonholed in the NFL as an upgraded Rex Burkhead -- runs the ball some, catches the ball as a receiver some, and wow, is he ever a good blocker and just watch him use his non-stop motor and run down the field and make tackles on special teams! Basically a "tweener" of some sort the way Alstott, Burkhead, Leonard and others were not allowed to be pure halfbacks.

The absolute minimization of McCaffrey's talents in the face of his actual athletic ability and production is downright astounding. McGay is telling outright lies because he can't believe that a white RB can do all these things because his mind is so perverted by the false notion of black athletic superiority and is a parrot just like all the other talking heads and supposed experts over the past 30 years that preach and believe the false caste system gospel they have been taught. McCaffrey is not a blocking back by any means - did they ever say that about Reggie Bush, CJ Spiller etc? It's a damned joke and it hasn't ever been a funny one.

I do agree that McCaffrey will be somewhat downgraded. Reggie Bush was hailed as a once a generation talent, a Gale Sayers type player who actually never lived up to the hype yet seems to get a somewhat free pass after a fairly average career. CJ Spiller was another back in the same mold as McCaffrey who has not had a great career but manages to evade criticism. I wonder if those two players who seem to evade criticism themselves will be used against McCaffrey during the pre-draft hoopla.

 

[Leonardfan]

Don the freshman RB they were blabbering about was non other than Barry Sander's son, Christian's back up. LOL

I think it is actually Bryce Love. Barry Sanders is a senior - has had a very underwhelming career and may be transferring out to Oklahoma St. as a grad transfer. I said this earlier in either this thread or another - if it was Barry Sanders kid and not Ed McCaffrey's kid putting up those numbers at Stanford the media would of put a whole different spin on this year's Heisman race.

 

[white lightning]

I'm so disgusted even a day after the vote. It's very hard to not just go off on a tangent. Hoping that people in this country will wake the f*** up to what is going on. Not only in sports but in every day life.


Anyone with half a brain knows Christian McCaffrey was the best player in the country last year and will the real heisman winner please stand up. Voting was rigged as usual. The kid is the best football player in college. End of argument. Hope he runs away with the award next year.

 

[whiteathlete33]

The question is what will they do with this kid when he gets drafted. They have him listed as third best running back for 2017. Yes third, no white player could ever be first at a "black position." It just worries me that they will say this kid is not fast enough or explosive enough for the next level and try and bulk him up as a fullback. Or he may only be used as a third down back.

 

[Riggins44]

The question is what will they do with this kid when he gets drafted. They have him listed as third best running back for 2017. Yes third, no white player could ever be first at a "black position." It just worries me that they will say this kid is not fast enough or explosive enough for the next level and try and bulk him up as a fullback. Or he may only be used as a third down back.

Could you imagine how ridiculous it would be if they tried to say he is only suited to be an NFL fullback?

Now that would seriously wake some people the f**k up.

 

[Westside]

I think it is actually Bryce Love. Barry Sanders is a senior - has had a very underwhelming career and may be transferring out to Oklahoma St. as a grad transfer. I said this earlier in either this thread or another - if it was Barry Sanders kid and not Ed McCaffrey's kid putting up those numbers at Stanford the media would of put a whole different spin on this year's Heisman race.

Rog I stand corrected. thanks Leonardfan

 

[white is right]

Guys they will either project him as either a third down Woodhead type or a slot receiver. Maybe if he adds some muscle to his frame and it doesn't hurt his quickness the scouts will project him as an every down feature back.

Ps I too was puzzled by the Alabama back winning all of the secondary player of the year awards and the Doak Walker. All McCaffrey won was the Hornung award and that really hasn't been won by great players (until now).

 

[Ambrose]

I'm so disgusted even a day after the vote. It's very hard to not just go off on a tangent. Hoping that people in this country will wake the f*** up to what is going on. Not only in sports but in every day life.


Anyone with half a brain knows Christian McCaffrey was the best player in the country last year and will the real heisman winner please stand up. Voting was rigged as usual. The kid is the best football player in college. End of argument. Hope he runs away with the award next year.

Am I the only one here that completely saw this coming? Of course he was going to lose because of the position he plays. The industry has just woven a narrative for the past 30 years that they simply can not let some 19 year old kid re-tell. If he is not injured next year, if he repeats what he did or betters it, he will quietly win the award, be offered employment by an NFL franchise, and get buried by injury or held on the sidelines until he is forgotten like Gerhart, Hillis, and others are if he works the running back position. The only way he can become a star and make it is at another position. Mark that!

 

[sport historian]

In addition to the usual skepticism, Christian McCaffrey was unknown nationally before the 2015 season. Reggie Bush, by contrast, was a big name All-American going into the 2005 season.

Next year McCaffrey might win if he has another big year and Stanford does well. Then again, he might not.

 

[jacknyc]

Next year Stanford's QB, Kevin Hogan, will be gone.
So a new, inexperienced QB will take his place.
This might mean more touches for McCaffrey, but might hurt him as well because defenses will be more keyed in on him than ever.

 

[Kaptain]

voting rigged

I have just discovered that 16% of the Heisman vote was in BEFORE McCaffrey played his final game. How is this allowed in the biggest award in college football. McCaffrey won nearly every fan vote that I saw as well as most of the large media votes. He lost be about 16%. How many points did he lose because voters didn't care to watch the final games and mailed in their vote ahead of time? He may not have made many of those 16% ers list at all.

 

[celticdb15]

Ed believes his son could dominate NFL right now!!

http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...isagree-on-nfl-draft-eligibility-rules-121415

 

[Ambrose]

Does anyone here know what the average size of a starting NFL RB is? I ask because the chirping is well under way that McCaffrey should convert to slot receiver as he's too small to be a starting RB.

 

[jacknyc]

Does anyone here know what the average size of a starting NFL RB is? I ask because the chirping is well under way that McCaffrey should convert to slot receiver as he's too small to be a starting RB.

From the article in the above link, Ed McCaffrey says about his son:
"He’s the same size as Jamaal Charles, he’s taller than Barry Sanders, he’s a little heavier than Reggie Bush. He’s not a bigger back like some of the backs you see in the league, but that’s not his game. His game is speed and quickness and finesse.â€￾

 

[davidholly]

Does anyone here know what the average size of a starting NFL RB is? I ask because the chirping is well under way that McCaffrey should convert to slot receiver as he's too small to be a starting RB.

Here are some players who have similar BMI to McCaffrey. Size is fine, his color is the issue.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

From the article in the above link, Ed McCaffrey says about his son:
"He’s the same size as Jamaal Charles, he’s taller than Barry Sanders, he’s a little heavier than Reggie Bush. He’s not a bigger back like some of the backs you see in the league, but that’s not his game. His game is speed and quickness and finesse.â€￾

Ed is right on the money. Besides, Christian can add some bulk. He's a tailback if there ever was one!

 

[Kaptain]

Ed would never let his son go the milk shake route and bulk up to satisfy the stereotype he fits into. Ed wore the smallest shoulder pads he legally could, no knee pads, and even cut the end off of his shoes so he could fit his feet into smaller and lighter shoes.

 

[Ambrose]

Ed is right on the money. Besides, Christian can add some bulk. He's a tailback if there ever was one!

Alright, so he's big enough, but, on the other hand...

Running backs take the most hits and tackles and pile-ons than any other player -I presume that is why they have the shortest careers of all positions. If he gets only 2/3's the money playing a receiving position but plays 3x longer -say 9 years- would he not be 5x richer? Is money not the only reason why anyone would work with all those azzholes who comprise the NFL?

 

[Carolina Speed]

Ed would never let his son go the milk shake route and bulk up to satisfy the stereotype he fits into. Ed wore the smallest shoulder pads he legally could, no knee pads, and even cut the end off of his shoes so he could fit his feet into smaller and lighter shoes.

He shouldn't have to. Unlike some white parents who hold their kids back a year and black kids who fail or don't know how old they really are, McCaffrey has a late birthday, (June, 6). He's still just 19 years old. He should naturally put on more weight without losing any speed and quickness!

He's listed at 201lbs. He should put on another 10-20 lbs. before he leaves Stanford in 2 1/2 years

I was 155lbs. at 19. 175lbs. at 22.

 

[PHillisFan]

Ed is right on the money. Besides, Christian can add some bulk. He's a tailback if there ever was one!

I wonder if Ed will raise a **** storm if his son gets labeled as a woodhead type back. In other words a utility back.
How does McCaffrey compare to Zenner when he was scouted?

 

[Heretic]

McCaffrey wins the "AP Player of the Year" award