For argument's sake - White NFL Players with 4.3 Speed

[Don Wassall]

I was doing some research on Keith Poole yesterday. He was a big star at Arizona State and was beginning to become one in the NFL. In 1999, his third season, Poole wasn't officially a starter but was used enough by the Saints to record a 42/796/6 line, his 19 yards per reception ranking second in the league, and Poole was named the team's most valuable offensive player. His coach was Mike Ditka, one of the fairer head coaches to White players with the Saints and Bears. But the next season Ditka was replaced by the loathsome Jim Haslet, who immediately conducted a racial purge (including installing Aaron Brooks at quarterback).

In Poole's own words, this is what happened next: "The first thing (new coach Haslett) said to me was, 'We want you to take pay cut. You're making too much for a No. 3 guy,' " Poole said. "I was the team's offensive MVP the year before. I'm thinking, 'I haven't even met you yet and this is what you're saying?' " http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/fo...e-finds-happiness-outside-ruthless-nfl.30292/ Poole had just 21 receptions in 2000, then in '01 ended up with Denver where he had only 5 catches, then was out of the league for good, a total screwing of a great talent.

Haslet has to rank right up there with Black Jack Del Rio in any list of the most anti-White coaches. He played at a small school (Indiana U. of Pennsylvania) but carved out a nice career in the NFL as a linebacker. Yet he had no sympathy for the underdog when he was White.

Here's a 12 second clip of Poole scoring a long touchdown. I don't know what his official 40 time was, but he was very fast running on a football field.

 

[white lightning]

I remember watching this kid and he was very talented. So fast and he had excellent hands. He reminded
me a little of Ricky Proehl. When Proehl was with the AZ Cardinals, they used to call him "Rock N Roll Ricky Proehl".

Both of these guys were run to watch and could have had much more productive careers. Proehl played longer and was treated a little better overall though to be fair.

 

[celticdb15]

Cool thread! Unfortunately I don't remember a lot of these guys as I was a young buck barely ten when Poole and Jeffers were tearing up coal black NFL secondaries in late 90s.

Classic statement by Grade A caste whore Jim Hasslett. Guy's a real douche, like Del Rio he has no sympathy for plight of white athlete, despite themselves being white athletes and working their way up to position of power as a coach! Self hating anti whites are just about the worst of worst. It's sad how many of or guys get their careers derailed purely because of their skin color. It should be about who can get the job done the best, but it's not.

 

[celticdb15]

I remember watching this kid and he was very talented. So fast and he had excellent hands. He reminded
me a little of Ricky Proehl. When Proehl was with the AZ Cardinals, they used to call him "Rock N Roll Ricky Proehl".

Both of these guys were run to watch and could have had much more productive careers. Proehl played longer and was treated a little better overall though to be fair.

Proehl was a real pro! Always enjoyed watching him. His son Austin is pretty talented as well. Not as big as Ricky but great route runner, and hands. He played Great against tough Stanford Defense yesterday. Another white WR to keep an eye on next year! His role should increase as Switzer heads to league.

 

[Deceptive Speed]

The fastest and most explosive Player I ever saw has got to be Sam McGuffie. Not just the most explosive white guy, but most explosive player regardless of color period. His high school highlights were out of this world. Then he went to Michigan and got fazed out, probably because he was white. I just can't believe somebody like him could not make the NFL

 

[Deceptive Speed]

I decided to bump this thread with some new updates...

Whether they were timed at the combine or at a pro-day event, the following is an incomplete list of White football athletes with "legitimate" 4.3 speed or better:

1. Matt Jones
2. Danny Woodhead
3. Jeremy Bloom
4. Kevin Curtis
5. Done Beebe
6. Jason Sehorn
7. Chris Hogan
8. Colin Jones
9. Travis Jervey
10. Tim Dwight
11. Jake Locker
12. Chris Prosinski
13. John Wendling
14. Dan Depalma
15. RJ Kors
16. Don Boyd Odegard
17. Brian Rowley
18. Scott Lockwood
19. Gary Wellman
20. Brad Lamb
21. Dave Klemic
22. Brad Pyatt
23. Derek Abney
24. Tom Crowder
25. Matt Cutaia
26. Troy Bergeron -
27. James Lukowiak - Southern Connecticut State; 4.37 at Pro Day
28. Scott Mayle
29. Jesse Wendt
30. Roger "the Rabbit" Robinson
31. Stan Zwinggi
32. Nate Soelberg
33. Brandon Heaney
34. Jake Sharp
35. Jeremy Ebert
36. Devon Whylie
37. Ryan Swope
38. Sam Mcguffie
39. Cody Pearcy
40. Josh Lenz
41. Ben Ericksen

Please feel free to update.


Respectfully,

The Sapient

I would rate Sam McGuffie much higher. Most explosive player I ever saw regardless of color period!

 

[DixieDestroyer]

I take it back. My Iowa guy whose name I forget off the top off my head is second I believe. White wr and totally casted in the NFL Oregon's Jeff Maehl holds the record. Braxton Berrios is the Miami receiver.

Tim Dwight? He also ran a 10.3 in the 100 meters & 6.8 in the 60 meters.

 

[celticdb15]

Tim Dwight? He also ran a 10.3 in the 100 meters & 6.8 in the 60 meters.

Could have been Dwight. Kevin Kasper was another freaky fast white wideout from Iowa!

 

[Carolina Speed]

If this guy is on the list and I missed him, please accept my apologies. I remember a guy named Doug "white lightning" Donley as he was called by both his Ohio State teammates and the name stuck when he was drafted by the Dallas Cowboys in the early 80's. A standout football player at Ohio State, Donley went on to a short career in the NFL because of chronic hamstring and shoulder injuries. He did average over 20 yards a catch in 1984. It was reported that he consistently ran 4.3, 40 times at Ohio State!

 

[Leonardfan]

Vinny Sutherland out of Purdue was another white speedster I vaguely remember watching back in the late 90s/early 00s right before my proper racial awakening.

 

[MrPoon]

How did the 40 become the speed determination standard BTW? If you look at 10 and 20 speed, whites are generally faster. In fact I believe that the Patriots value those stats and cone drills much more than the 40.

 

[Phall]

The fastest and most explosive Player I ever saw has got to be Sam McGuffie. Not just the most explosive white guy, but most explosive player regardless of color period. His high school highlights were out of this world. Then he went to Michigan and got fazed out, probably because he was white. I just can't believe somebody like him could not make the NFL

McGuffie transferred out of Michigan to Rice after his true freshman season despite leading the team in carries. He put up decent numbers for some bad Rice teams, but dealt with some injuries and eventually couldn't get past the practice squads in just one year with the NFL. Obviously a very gifted athlete - McGuffie competed in just about every track and field event during his college career (his pro day 40 time was 4.32). After pro football didn't work out, he's since moved on to olympic bobsledding and professional rugby.

I don't remember exactly if the timing of his injuries was a legitimate factor in his NFL snubbing, but that's eventually where he hit the wall as a fast white guy (not in college).

 

[Phall]

The fastest and most explosive Player I ever saw has got to be Sam McGuffie. Not just the most explosive white guy, but most explosive player regardless of color period. His high school highlights were out of this world. Then he went to Michigan and got fazed out, probably because he was white. I just can't believe somebody like him could not make the NFL

McGuffie transferred out of Michigan to Rice after his true freshman season despite leading the team in carries. He put up decent numbers for some bad Rice teams, but dealt with some injuries and eventually couldn't get past the practice squads in just one year with the NFL. Obviously a very gifted athlete - McGuffie competed in just about every track and field event during his college career (his pro day 40 time was 4.32). After pro football didn't work out, he's since moved on to olympic bobsledding and professional rugby.

I don't remember exactly if the timing of his injuries was a legitimate factor in his NFL snubbing, but that's eventually where he hit the wall as a fast white guy (not in college).

 

[Deceptive Speed]

Thats right Rice, i couldn't think of the name.

 

[PHillisFan]

I used to love Tim Dwight's TD celebration. So much white talent wasted in the NFL for overhyped afleets that never amounted to anything.

 

[Thrashen]

Kevin Curtis (as a member of the Rams) was once playing in a game against the Panthers on Fox. Curtis scored a long TD, showing electrifying speed. Troy Aikman remarked that he had spoken to Mike Martz prior to the game that Martz told him that "Kevin Curtis is the fastest WR I've ever seen." I believe he said this during a broadcast in 2005 or 2006.

Curtis ran a hand-timed 4.21 40 and a 4.35 40 at the combine.

 

[The Sapient]

Bumping thread:

1. Matt Jones

2. Danny Woodhead

3. Jeremy Bloom

4. Kevin Curtis

5. Done Beebe

6. Jason Sehorn

7. Chris Hogan

8. Colin Jones

9. Travis Jervey

10. Tim Dwight

11. Jake Locker

12. Chris Prosinski

13. John Wendling

14. Dan Depalma

15. RJ Kors

16. Don Boyd Odegard

17. Brian Rowley

18. Scott Lockwood

19. Gary Wellman

20. Brad Lamb

21. Dave Klemic

22. Brad Pyatt

23. Derek Abney

24. Tom Crowder

25. Matt Cutaia

26. Troy Bergeron

27. James Lukowiak

28. Scott Mayle

29. Jesse Wendt

30. Roger "the Rabbit" Robinson

31. Stan Zwinggi

32. Nate Soelberg

33. Brandon Heaney

34. Jake Sharp

35. Jeremy Ebert

36. Devon Whylie

37. Ryan Swope

38. Sam Mcguffie

39. Cody Pearcy

40. Josh Lenz

41. Ben Ericksen

42. Vinny Sutherland

43. Marc Mauro

44. Jeff Query

45. Doug Donley

46. Bill Schroeder

47. Jeff Janis

48. Max McCaffrey

49. Riley McCarron

50. Troy Apke

 

[Extra Point]

Bumping thread:

1. Matt Jones

2. Danny Woodhead

3. Jeremy Bloom

4. Kevin Curtis

5. Done Beebe

6. Jason Sehorn

7. Chris Hogan

8. Colin Jones

9. Travis Jervey

10. Tim Dwight

11. Jake Locker

12. Chris Prosinski

13. John Wendling

14. Dan Depalma

15. RJ Kors

16. Don Boyd Odegard

17. Brian Rowley

18. Scott Lockwood

19. Gary Wellman

20. Brad Lamb

21. Dave Klemic

22. Brad Pyatt

23. Derek Abney

24. Tom Crowder

25. Matt Cutaia

26. Troy Bergeron

27. James Lukowiak

28. Scott Mayle

29. Jesse Wendt

30. Roger "the Rabbit" Robinson

31. Stan Zwinggi

32. Nate Soelberg

33. Brandon Heaney

34. Jake Sharp

35. Jeremy Ebert

36. Devon Whylie

37. Ryan Swope

38. Sam Mcguffie

39. Cody Pearcy

40. Josh Lenz

41. Ben Ericksen

42. Vinny Sutherland

43. Marc Mauro

44. Jeff Query

45. Doug Donley

46. Bill Schroeder

47. Jeff Janis

48. Max McCaffrey

49. Riley McCarron

50. Troy Apke

Excellent list!

Yet the anti-whites continue to promote the lie that white men can't be fast.

 

[Avante]

The big difference is that size with speed we see in the black athletes. So many of them are 225 pounds and can run or 6-3 and can motor. We don't really see that in others.


Not sure about 4.3 but am sure they had great speed.

John Roderick 9.3 100 yards SMU
Lance Alworth Arkansas 9.6 I think
Hugh "The King" McElhenny HS hurdles champ
"Jaguar' Jon Arnett placed in the NCAA long jump
Jerry Tarr the top ranked hurdler in the world,
Richmond Flowers world ranked hurdler

 

[dolphins15]

The big difference is that size with speed we see in the black athletes. So many of them are 225 pounds and can run or 6-3 and can motor. We don't really see that in others.


Not sure about 4.3 but am sure they had great speed.

John Roderick 9.3 100 yards SMU
Lance Alworth Arkansas 9.6 I think
Hugh "The King" McElhenny HS hurdles champ
"Jaguar' Jon Arnett placed in the NCAA long jump
Jerry Tarr the top ranked hurdler in the world,
Richmond Flowers world ranked hurdler

Avante. I went back and looked at the last 10 NFL combines. There were four guys that weighed 225 or more and ran 4.39 or better.

Those four are. Shaquem Griffin, Knile Davis, Mario Fanin, and Josh Barrett. The jury is still out on Griffin but the other 3 really did nothing in the NFL. So not only are there very few guys who did what you claim but they aren't really good at football either.

 

[Avante]

Avante. I went back and looked at the last 10 NFL combines. There were four guys that weighed 225 or more and ran 4.39 or better.

Those four are. Shaquem Griffin, Knile Davis, Mario Fanin, and Josh Barrett. The jury is still out on Griffin but the other 3 really did nothing in the NFL. So not only are there very few guys who did what you claim but they aren't really good at football either.

Olympic sprinter Ollie Matson a HOF RB in the early 50's was around 220 pounds, then here came big Jim Brown. NCAA 100 champ/Rams WR Bob Boyd was around 220 pounds.

Herschel Walker, Marcus Dupree, Bo Jackson, Todd Gurley, Homer Jones, all big and fast. We just don't see big fast white guys. Tall and fast like Randy Moss, Usain Bolt, Tommie Smith, Calvin Johnson.

I''m trying to figue out what is really going on here. I like everybody else else thinks white athletes get a raw deal but I can't just ignore things. I've already been compared to some guy for some reason.....?

 

[Extra Point]

Olympic sprinter Ollie Matson a HOF RB in the early 50's was around 220 pounds, then here came big Jim Brown. NCAA 100 champ/Rams WR Bob Boyd was around 220 pounds.

Herschel Walker, Marcus Dupree, Bo Jackson, Todd Gurley, Homer Jones, all big and fast. We just don't see big fast white guys. Tall and fast like Randy Moss, Usain Bolt, Tommie Smith, Calvin Johnson.

I''m trying to figue out what is really going on here. I like everybody else else thinks white athletes get a raw deal but I can't just ignore things. I've already been compared to some guy for some reason.....?

Todd Gurley didn't run at the Combine or his pro day so I don't know what his real speed is.

Matt Jones ran a 4.37 at 6-6 242 at the Combine in 2005. I can see that he was a big, fast white guy.

 

[Avante]

Todd Gurley didn't run at the Combine or his pro day so I don't know what his real speed is.

Matt Jones ran a 4.37 at 6-6 242 at the Combine in 2005. I can see that he was a big, fast white guy.

Gurley ws a HS track star, a state champion in the hurdles. And remember he returned kickoffs


My thing with black people is how the father bails on his kids, that sucks. And how unfair it is to white athletes to be thought of as lesser. But........I can't pretend we don't see some great black athletes, which seems to be a no no here.

 

[NWsoccerfan]

Gurley ws a HS track star, a state champion in the hurdles. And remember he returned kickoffs


My thing with black people is how the father bails on his kids, that sucks. And how unfair it is to white athletes to be thought of as lesser. But........I can't pretend we don't see some great black athletes, which seems to be a no no here.

If you want to celebrate the athletic achievements of blacks, then this site probably isn't for you.

 

[Avante]

If you want to celebrate the athletic achievements of blacks, then this site probably isn't for you.

We aren't allowed to simply keep it real? I can't stand black people, but I'm not blind either.