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Sean Lissemore DT William and Mary is a guy teams have been taking a look at. I heard the Jaguars had a private work out for him. I think he could go to them later in the draft...they draft a CB from that school last year so that could give him exposure.
 

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Arkansas safety Matt Harris was the most impressive overall athlete at the Razorbacks' Pro Day, which is "weird" considering that, since he set foot on campus, all the Drunken White Hog Fans have been insisting he didn't have enough affleticism to play ...
a total of 15 Draft hopefuls from Arkansasperformed for scouts.

at 6-2, 193-pounds Harris ran the 40 in 4.58 (the second fastest of all performers present behind wide receiver London Crawford), ran the shuttle in 4.10 seconds (the second fastest by one-hundredth of a second to the 5-7, 165-pound Reggie Fish), tiedfor the top broad jump at 10-0 (with linebacker Wendel Davis), and had a 33-inch vertical. he had a disappointing bench press, however, with only 5 reps. while Harris looks more like a basketball player than a football player with his long arms (except he's White, so the comparison will never be made by anyone else), this was still a poor performance.

Lucas Miller (6-3, 205) had the highest vertical at 35.5 inches. but i thought White men couldn't jump ...
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he also had a 4.75 40, was 4.33 in the shuttle, 6.82 in the 3-cone, and had a 9-10.5 broad jump.

Mitch Petrus also performed and looked impressive.

here's a link to the complete numbers for all participants. besides the complete dominance by White athletes despite their small numbers, there was one other interesting bit of info that i noticed ... 3 black athletes (a wide receiver and two tailbacks) measured in at 5-8 or shorter, yet all were on scholarship ... this, despite one not running and the other two running 4.6 forties.

isn't it "funny" that tiny, slow affletes are "somehow" good enough to receive scholarships, yet bigger, faster "hustling blue-collarplayers" aren't?
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some more Pro Day performances:

Blair White (who was mentioned yesterday) ran a 4.4, broad jumped 10-0, had a 33.5-inch vertical, and didn't drop a pass in performance drills. also, he's looking ripped.

Penn State tight end Mickey Shuler put up eye-popping numbers. at 6-4, 251-pounds, Shuler ran in the 4.6s, broad jumped almost 11 feet, had a 37-inch vertical, and had 28 reps on the 225-bench press.

this may have been mentioned already, but Eric Decker scored a 43 on the Wonderlic. the 6-3, 215-pound wideout's score was the highest of anyone at the Combine.

also, in no surprise to any of us, Toby Gerhart posted the highest Wonderlic score of any running back. the Stanford standout scored a 30. conversely, Clemson "graduate" CJ Spiller scored a lowly 10.
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there are several other notables who have their scoreslisted at the link.
 

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According to Wonderlic, a 10 is "literate". I dunno, but I guess that being a (barely) literate dumba** is good enough for RB in the NFL nowadays.....
 

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According to Wonderlic, a 10 is "literate".  I dunno, but I guess that being a (barely) literate dumba** is good enough for RB in the NFL nowadays.....

LOL!
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I figured ol' "BJ Spilla" would be lucky to eek out a 5! I'm sure the Caste "lords" won't allow his sub-par intelligence to hurt his draft status.
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The caste clowns will use it as an argument FOR Spiller, saying that it makes him "more instictive" and will get through holes without "thinking too much"
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In all fairness though, he's a really good running back for a dumba$$.
 

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i've played rugby with some pretty thick people that kind of instinctively understood the game, i guess Spiller is one of them, never really saw him play.
 
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I think RB is the least cerebral position on offense. That's a major reason white players are shut out. A coach can see how intelligence translates to success at the WR position; thus they sometimes stereotype a white WR as "just knowing how to get open," which will help the team. Thus, white guys who fit that profile (being incredibly intelligent) are allowed to slip through. Exceptionally talented white guys who may not be that smart are pushed to TE or overlooked because coaches can't comprehend a white WR using his athleticism to succeed. Just look at the struggles Matt Jones has faced. We all know that if he were black, teams would be drooling over him, he'd be the #1 receiver on some team and probably would have been in a Pro-Bowl by now.
 
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Great work guys, updated front page again. Let me know if i'm missing anyone or pro days that have already happened.
Also, link to Toby Gerharts Pro Day:
Toby Pro Day

Stood by combine numbers but "was outstanding in the position drills".
 

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I just realized that Matt Szczur is only a junior. He graduates in 2011 and didn't declare for this draft. I'll have to remove him from my list.
 

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DixieDestroyer said:
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Ryan D'Imperio according to this DWF ran a pedestrian 4.65 40 and 241 pounds at his pro day. What a dumbass. I made sure to send him an e-mail pointing out how uninformed he is. http://blogs.mycentraljersey.com/rutgers/2010/03/13/dimperio-munoz-impressing-nfl-scouts/

CDB15, unload on that DWF douchebag! 4.6 is NOT slow for a LB. That caste lackey be off-kilter from sniffin' too many "afroletes'" jock straps.
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Haha Dixie you crack me up man. Seriously thats the type of writer who thinks he knows about football, but with ignorant statements like that shows his idiocy. How hard is it to look up the avg time for the 40 yard dash for the linebackers at the recent combineand see what the average is? If he actually did any research before he wrote this, he would know 4.6 is actually a stellar time!
 

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"somehow" this guy played Division II ball. "weird" how that happened, huh?
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Trevor Harris shines at Ohio State pro day. here's an excerpt:

Harris, a 2005 graduate of Pleasant High School who recently finished a standout career as quarterback for the Edinboro University of Pennsylvania gridiron squad, is trying to impress his way into the NFL draftwhich begins on April 22.
Last weekend he was invited to the pro workout day in The Ohio State University's Woody Hayes Athletic Center where scouts from 29 of the 32 NFL teams judged him along with other pro hopefuls.
It was his first pro workout, and there may be others on the horizon.
Harris, 23, had been on many scouts' radar for several years while producing his dominating performances at Edinboro.
Thanks to the interest of enough of those scouts and the association his local trainer, Brock Meadows of the Power Factory in Marion, had with Ohio State, Harris was invited to attend the pro day at OSU. At least two NFL teams have to request to see a player in order for him to be eligible to attend a pro day.
Harris was one of only eight players from schools other than OSU who were asked to perform. Seventeen Ohio State players went through their own pro day for the scouts at the same event.
"It was nice to know I was wanted," Harris said while noting four teams which he would not identify contacted OSU and wanted to see him in the pro day. "It was also very generous of coach (Jim) Tressel to allow kids in here, to give kids who have a dream a chance."
His tryout session included bench press, jumps, a 40-yard dash and cone drills in the morning along with afternoon passing drills.
Harris stood out during the morning session. He pulled off 24 reps at 225 pounds in the bench press, went 35.5 inches in the vertical leap and 9 feet, 7 inches on the standing broad jump, and was timed in 4.71 seconds in the 40 and in 4.17 seconds in the cone drills.
Each of those efforts placed him well into the top five and in a couple of instances at the top of all pro day numbers posted by quarterbacks through March 12, including the exclusive NFL combine in Indianapolis ...
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Gil Brandt posts some info on Blair White that we've mentioned before. it's nice to see him getting some attention.

Spartans White has another remarkable workout.

One of the most impressively athletic receivers at the NFL Scouting Combine was Michigan State's Blair White. He backed up that outstanding performance with another eye-opening workout at the Spartans' pro day on March 17.


White (6-foot-2 1/8, 205 pounds) ran the 40-yard dash in 4.42 and 4.46 seconds, had a 35 1/2-inch vertical jump, a 10-foot broad jump and did position drills.
also, lest we forget, Blair White had to begin his career as a walk-on.
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It's B.S that Blair White started as a walk-on. I must give complements to Javon Ringer- where it is due. Ringer was friends with Blair and advocated for him to get more playing time and a scholarship. He told the Spartans coach that he believed White could be one of the best receivers in the entire NCAA.

Sounds like a fair judge of talent to me!
 

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From Walterfootball:

Dane Fletcher, DE/OLB, Montana State

Height: 6-1. Weight: 245.
Projected 40 Time: 4.68.
Pro Day 40
Time: 4.61.
Benchx225: 29. Vertical: 36.
Projected
Round (2010): 6-7.



3/21/10: One of the all-time sack leaders in Big Sky Conference
history, Dane Fletcher had a solid Pro Day, running a 4.61 and leaping a
36-inch vertical.
 
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ToughJ.Riggins said:
It's B.S that Blair White started as a walk-on. I must give complements to Javon Ringer- where it is due. Ringer was friends with Blair and advocated for him to get more playing time and a scholarship. He told the Spartans coach that he believed White could be one of the best receivers in the entire NCAA.

Sounds like a fair judge of talent to me!
Amazing that a teammate could see this, but all the experts who make a living judging talent could not because they were blinded by his white skin. Ringer also voted for White as MVP in 2008, even though Ringer was the clear MVP of the team and White wasn't even the team's leading receiver. I think it was Ringer just trying to make a point as the most famous player on the team. That point being: THROW HIM THE BALL!

edit: going to rant some more. It is absolutely sick that Ringer even had to feel compelled to advocate for White to the coaches and media just to get him a fair shot. As an MSU fan, there were multiple times in the media Ringer specifically used the word "athletic" or "athleticism" to describe White, seeming to consciously counter the many statements that he wasn't athletic enough to be the #1 receiver. Just from what I saw on the field, I thought he was clearly the most athletic receiver overall, which he proved at the combine and on his pro day. And if it wasn't for MSU's 2nd best receiver going down with an injury early--then struggling to overcome it--White may never had been given the chance to show that he has NFL talent, which he clearly has. It's sick and a disgrace the type of breaks some white players have to get in order to be given a fair shot and to succeed. The guy ran a 4.37 40, yet all I heard from the fan base was how he was too slow and not athletic enough to be the #1 receiver.
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And this is in a position where things seem to be opening up a little for white athletes, unlike RB and DB. Many fans will point to the successful white WRs and say, "see, they don't face discrimination." Yet look at what Blair White had to go through.Edited by: Fightingtowin
 

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All good points Fightingtowin. It seems like Ringer is a great guy, from what I've read on the web.

The thing that impresses me most about Blair, isn't that he has slightly above average speed- for a WR getting playing time in the NFL his size- it's his agility numbers. He was third amongst WRs in the 3-Cone at the combine (a great time of 6.69) and first in the short shuttle (a blazing 4.03 at his size and the 2nd fastest time at the entire combine). And yes, he can broad jump 10 feet too- showing swivel agility!
 
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ToughJ.Riggins said:
All good points Fightingtowin. It seems like Ringer is a great guy, from what I've read on the web.

The thing that impresses me most about Blair, isn't that he has slightly above average speed- for a WR getting playing time in the NFL his size- it's his agility numbers. He was third amongst WRs in the 3-Cone at the combine (a great time of 6.69) and first in the short shuttle (a blazing 4.03 at his size and the 2nd fastest time at the entire combine). And yes, he can broad jump 10 feet too- showing swivel agility!
Thanks and same here. I excepted an excellent 40 time, because I saw him blowing by many DBs on the field. However, the quickness times were a great surprise. White almost almost made the first guy miss with a sharp cut--often with the DB tripping over himself--but then he usually just ran in a straight line as fast as possible. It was efficient, yet he rarely made multiple cuts, so I wasn't sure how good his quickness was. I also knew he was a good and powerful leaper--which the broad jump demonstrates--because of his ability to go up and make catches in traffic. His coordination while in the air was also some of the best I've seen. He's going to make some team very happy. And besides his athleticism, actually is a white receiver who "just knows how to get open." He was on track for DENTAL SCHOOL before people realized he was a pro prospect.
 

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another White wide receiver who wasn't invited to the Combine blows up at his pro day. this time, it's San Jose State's Kevin Jurovich.

The star of the day was wide receiver Kevin Jurovich, said an NFL scout who asked to remain anonymous.

"He ran some crisp routes and caught everything thrown his way," the scout said.

Jurovich posted workout numbers that would rank him within the top ten wide receivers posted on the NFL Scouting Combine Web site.

"Jurovich, the receiver, caught the ball well," said Sammy Seale, a scout for the Green Bay Packers.

He showed good straight line speed by running the 40-yard dash in 4.43 seconds, showed his ability to change directions by doing the 20-yard shuttle in 4.2 seconds and showed off his leaping abilities with a 37.5-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot-2-inch broad jump.

"I've been working hard for this for a long time," Jurovich said. "I was out in Arizona training for the past two months, and I feel like it all paid off. These were all things that I expected to do, but it's good to just (kind of) do it."

Seale, the scout from Green Bay, wasn't there to look at Jurovich, though. he was there looking at some reel afflete prospects.
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i've been a fan of Vanderbilt defensive end Steven Stone for several years. he is very talented (in addition to being all-everything in football, he was also an All-State basketball player), and despite being from Arkansas and growing up a Razorback fan, "for some reason" former Arkansas head coach Houston Nutt didn't even look at him. now it looks like he should get a shot at the NFL ... he's certainly got the physical tools, anyway.

DE Steve Stone (6-5, 277) looked good and turned in a fine all-around workout, including a 35-inch vertical jump, 9-foot 9-inch broad jump, a 4.4-second short shuttle, a 7.1-second 3-cone drill and a 4.9-second 40-yard dash. After struggling with injuries during his college career and then flashing NFL talent as a senior, Stone's performance could wind up getting him drafted.
 

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Fightingtowin said:
ToughJ.Riggins said:
It's B.S that Blair White started as a walk-on. I must give complements to Javon Ringer- where it is due. Ringer was friends with Blair and advocated for him to get more playing time and a scholarship. He told the Spartans coach that he believed White could be one of the best receivers in the entire NCAA.

Sounds like a fair judge of talent to me!
Amazing that a teammate could see this, but all the experts who make a living judging talent could not because they were blinded by his white skin. Ringer also voted for White as MVP in 2008, even though Ringer was the clear MVP of the team and White wasn't even the team's leading receiver. I think it was Ringer just trying to make a point as the most famous player on the team. That point being: THROW HIM THE BALL!

edit: going to rant some more. It is absolutely sick that Ringer even had to feel compelled to advocate for White to the coaches and media just to get him a fair shot. As an MSU fan, there were multiple times in the media Ringer specifically used the word "athletic" or "athleticism" to describe White, seeming to consciously counter the many statements that he wasn't athletic enough to be the #1 receiver. Just from what I saw on the field, I thought he was clearly the most athletic receiver overall, which he proved at the combine and on his pro day. And if it wasn't for MSU's 2nd best receiver going down with an injury early--then struggling to overcome it--White may never had been given the chance to show that he has NFL talent, which he clearly has. It's sick and a disgrace the type of breaks some white players have to get in order to be given a fair shot and to succeed. The guy ran a 4.37 40, yet all I heard from the fan base was how he was too slow and not athletic enough to be the #1 receiver.
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And this is in a position where things seem to be opening up a little for white athletes, unlike RB and DB. Many fans will point to the successful white WRs and say, "see, they don't face discrimination." Yet look at what Blair White had to go through.

It's rare to see an "afflete" give compliments to a White team mate, much less go to bat for more PT (for the White player). Ringer earned some respect from me for backing White.
 
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