Draft Prospect Database

[Jack Lambert]

That's what I was thinking when I read a similar blurb on Rotoworld this morning, Don. What about Trent Williams or Bruce Campbell. Williams couldn't keep Bradford upright last year, and he's the reason Sam got hurt. Campbell couldn't stay healthy at all in college. I didn't think Williams was that good against Big 12 competition, but since he has the black skin, he'll get drafted high and bust.

 

[whiteathlete33]

The one White tackle expected to be drafted high just happens to be "the most over-rated player in the draft" according to SI's Don Banks

, who then comparesBryan Bulagato Robert Gallery. Gallery didn't fulfill all expectations but he's still a starter in the league. Since Gallery was drafted there have been a number of outright busts at tackle selected in the first round, however all of them are black so that's why Banks didn't mention any of them:
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Things look to be a bit better in 2011 at least at the offensive tackle position. As of now the top ranked tackle for 2011 is Gabe Carimi, followed by Nate Solder and Anthony Castonzo, and Lee Ziemba is 5th. 4 of the top 5 tackles for next year are white, at least for now. Clint Boling from Georgia is another good tackle that could shoot up draft boards by the next draft.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

WA33, Boling & Ben Jones are All-American caliber/potential OLs for the Dawgs. Jones is nasty in the trenches. I saw a few nice leg-whips & chop blocks last year on some "affletic" SEC DLs.

 

[celticdb15]

Gabe Carimi isa Jew and nearly had to miss a game last year b\c it fell on a Jewish holy day. For our purpose he's white though..

 

[Deadlift]

It seems like Eric Berry is being touted as the 1st or 2nd "safest" pick in this Draft.

A corner or safety would have to be INCREDIBLY INCREDIBLY good to be "worthy" of a Top 5 selection. Even with the Caste media, the higher you get picked, the higher the expectations are.

He's more a "finesse" player, rather than a physical tackling-machine, and I just don't see that changing.

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Sorry to repost guys. I made a few changes to my rankings since I rushed a bit through the first list. The first rankings were one of the last posts on page 8. Hope you guys enjoy my final rankings. A couple white players moved up!

I updated the previous list and now put together rankings for each offensive skill position. I tend to watch mostly offense and mostly guys who get the ball, so I didn't rank o-line or defense. I didn't rank FB because true FBs aren't used much anymore. I ranked H-Backs in their place. These are guys that can catch balls as TEs or swinging out from the backfield. H-Backs also run and pass block and could run the ball a bit when the situation calls for it. I have ranked each player that I feel should be drafted without the caste system and then continued with a short list of the top PFAs.

A few things to note:
1. A player will drop down if he isn't all that productive even if he is a workout warrior.
2. Productive players with pedestrian measurables (ie. Freddie Barnes, David Sinisi) will drop down in rankings. Freddie Barnes may be the best example of this in years. Barnes performed this season on level of Mike Hass when Hass won the Biletnikoff award. However Barnes does not jump as well and isn't as agile, quick or fast as Hass. ie. Hass's best tested measurables for the '06 draft: 4.58 40, 4.15 SS, 6.52 3-Cone, 9'8" BJ 36.5 VJ; Barnes: 4.67 40 (reported by NFLdraftscout as his best hand-timed 40 out of a range), 4.55 SS, 7.16 3-cone, 8'11" BJ, 30.5 VJ.
3. Injured players like Eric Decker and Demaryius Thomas tend to drop in rankings no matter how talented they are. For instance, Eric Decker would probably have been ranked my #1 or #2 WR if healthy, but I have him ranked 3rd right now.
4. Players with questionable work ethic or character issues will drop down in the rankings as well. This is even if they have serious talent. Among the aforementioned are Dez Bryant, Brandon Lafell, Mike Williams and Jevon Snead.
5. Productive players in the FBS stand out to be ranked higher than productive players in the lower levels.
6. This list is not literally without the caste system, because there are unfortunately lots of talented whites who fall victim to caste coaching and never got the chance to produce. And freakish talents like Nile Knapp disappear to Division III, NAIA or stop playing football all together every year- after H.S- due to lack of scholarships.

Here's the list:
QB:
1. Sam Bradford
2. Tim Tebow
3. Jimmy Clausen
4. Colt McCoy
5. Tony Pike
6. Dan Lefevour
7. Jonathan Crompton
8. Zac Robinson
9. John Skelton
10. Jarrett Brown
11. Mike Kafka
12. Joe Webb
13. Darryl Clark
14. Jevan Snead
Top PFAs:
15. Levi Brown
16. Tim Hiller
17. Sean Canfield
18. Matt Nichols
19. Max Hall
20. Thaddeus Lewis


RB:
1. Toby Gerhart
2. Jahvid Best
3. C.J Spiller (I dropped him down after watching extensive highlights of him because he's too much like Reggie Bush. He might be a little bit better of a rusher than Bush up the middle, but like Bush isn't an "elite" rusher. He's a phenom receiver out of the backfield and a crazy good returner though.
4. Ryan Mathews
5. Ben Tate
6. Montario Hardesty
7. Jonathan Dwyer
8. Joe McKnight
9. Jake Sharp
10. Anthony Dixon
11. James Starks
12. Lonyae Miller
13. Andre Dixon
14. Deji Karim
15. Chris Brown
16. Joique Bell
17. Blake Smolen
18. Luke Lippincott
19. Stafon Johnson
20. Curtis Steele
Top PFAs:
21. Charles Scott
22. Chad Kackert
23. Pat Paschall
24. Trevyn Smith
25. LeGarrette Blount

H-Backs:
1. Dorin Dickerson
2. Jameson Konz
3. Clay Harbor
4. John Connor
5. Rashawn Jackson
6. Richard Dickson
7. William Rose
Top PFAs:
8. Cody Slate
9. Manase Tonga
10. Jack Corcoran

WR:
1. Golden Tate
2. Dez Bryant
3. Eric Decker
4. Damian Williams
5. Demaryius Thomas
6. Jordan Shipley
7. Blair White
8. Dexter McCluster
9. Arrellious Benn
10. Riley Cooper
11. Mardy Gilyard
12. Carlton Mitchell
13. Chris McGaha
14. Brandon Lafell
15. Taylor Price
16. Jacoby Ford
17. Marc Mariani
18. Andre Roberts
19. Kerry Meier
20. Tim Toone
21. Dezmon Briscoe
22. Kevin Jurovich
23. Emmanuel Sanders
24. Mike Williams
25. Bryan Anderson
26. Jeremy Williams
27. Marcus Easley
28. Armanti Edwards
29. Ryan Wolfe
30. Scott Long
31. Andrew Brewer
32. Antonio Brown
33. Shay Hodge
34. Pat Simmonds
35. Freddie Barnes
Top PFAs:
36. Danario Alexander
37. Kyle Williams
38. David Reed
39. Stephan Williams
40. David Gettis
41. Max Komar
42. Tim Brown
43. Donald Jones
44. Duke Calhoun
45. Chris Carter

TE:
1. Rob Gronkowski
2. Jermaine Gresham
3. Jimmy Graham
4. Aaron Hernandez
5. Dennis Pitta
6. Anthony McCoy
7. Ed Dickson
8. Garrett Graham
9. Tony Moeaki
10. Andrew Quarless
11. Michael Hoomanawanui
12. Jeff Cumberland
13. Scott Sicko
14. Fendi Onobun
Top PFAs:
15. Nate Byham
16. Mickey Shuler
17. Colin Peek
18. Michael Palmer
19. Nathan Overbay
20. Steve Maneri

Lastly, I figure I may take heat for ranking Eric Decker 3rd. The reason for that is that Decker's injury to a ligament in his foot is rather significant. If not for this injury Decker would probably be my #1 WR. Decker is a slightly richer version of Michael Crabtree without the headcase baggage. I spent a lot of time watching football last season and watching Youtube and Yahoo video highlights to make this list, so if you don't like it make your own list lol! Cheers guys.

Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Not sure if it's accurate b/c I'm yet to see an official Weber State Pro Day report, but it seems NFLdraftscout changed Trevyn Smith's 40 time from 4.54 to 4.68 on their CBS draft page. If this is the case I will drop Smith down to a 7th rounder or PFA.

Trevyn Smith had a GREAT career for Weber State, (but with a little decrease in production as a senior). When I've watched Smith play he looks as good as Joique Bell and slightly better than Pat Paschall on film. I enjoyed seeing him play once on t.v in the FCS tournament and I've watched some clips on Youtube. However, if he doesn't have better measurables than those two (than he's not a better prospect than Bell) I'll have to drop him in my rankings- b/c those two guys had DOMINANT senior years!

Regardless, I wish Trevyn luck. I don't think we'll see him play in the NFL with a caste system b/c he's probably only a 7th round/PFA guy w/o one all things considered.

Maybe he'll go the CFL route like Tre Smith and dominate there- and then get an NFL shot later on- as Gerhart helps weaken the caste system a bit for white RBs! Tre is a RB with a similar physique and name!

 

[Don Wassall]

The one White tackle expected to be drafted high just happens to be "the most over-rated player in the draft" according to SI's Don Banks

, who then comparesBryan Bulagato Robert Gallery. Gallery didn't fulfill all expectations but he's still a starter in the league. Since Gallery was drafted there have been a number of outright busts at tackle selected in the first round, however all of them are black so that's why Banks didn't mention any of them:


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[Don Wassall]

Here's another one, this time from Caste clown Mike Lombardi

. Apparently alot of folks would love to see a White-free first round, with the exception of "Indian" Sam Bradford.

Mike Lombardi of the National Football Post is "hearing" that Iowa OT Bryan Bulaga will not be a top-10 pick. Like Jimmy Clausen's, Bulaga's stock is falling at the absolute wrong time. Another recent report claimed some NFL evaluators consider him the most overrated prospect in this year's draft class. Lombardi does hear that Bulaga is "loved" by the Niners, and that Green Bay might trade up to select him.

 

[Deadlift]

Don,


Apparently, Clausen can't possibly be better than Jamarcus, Akili Smiff, Byron Leftwich...


Mock: Clausen, Thomas, Bryant sink like stones

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/13266000?tag=pageRow;pageContainer


I like this post:

April 22, 2010 3:28 am

Arizona passes on him at #26?

They roll with DA and Lienart?

Raiders,browns,bills,

SF and Seattle pass twice!!!!

Get Real, this guy is not going out of the top ten.........


Campbell, Anthony Davis and JPP are all overated pieces of trash and while I am at it .....Throw Trent Williams in there too

I'm not agreeing with his idea that Arizona needs a new QB, but everything else was solid!




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[whiteathlete33]

Here's another one, this time from Caste clown Mike Lombardi

. Apparently alot of folks would love to see a White-free first round, with the exception of "Indian" Sam Bradford.
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Don, several sites I checked stated that his stock is falling because of his short arms. Hmm!