Coming Financial Crisis Worse Than ’29?

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more signs of the "recovery" that the government assures us is real ... New home sales unexpectedly decline to record low.
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<div>"unexpectedly," that's a good one. </div>
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<div>and in related news, i think the below video is a concise, accurate analysis of the mental capacity of our fellow countrymen. sadly, it's not complimentary.
Nice one, JC. Thanks for sharing. Sums it up pretty well. The television "programming" (literally) of the past 20-30 years has been a major contributor to this. I remember the good, well-written, and mostly-wholesome shows of the 60's and 70's. This changed (in my perspective) around 1984 (coincidence?). There also used to be some very good investigative journalism back then, whether it be in print or television news...even local news, without any hint of "sensationalism"...just old-school straight-up journalism.

Jersey Shore vs. Little House on the Prairie
Lady Gaga vs. Karen Carpenter
Michael Vick vs. Roger Staubach
"Eminem" vs. John Denver
New "Disney" vs. Walt Disney
Lil' Kim vs. Diana Ross
"Boy Bands" vs. The Eagles
The Green Hornet vs. The Godfather Part II

Just for some perspective...could go on and on...

Also, from time to time, men like Jessie Ventura somehow slip through the facade and onto some obscure Cable TV channel (like Tru TV) and have a series that provides some really good information to the people as to what's really going on. It became the highest-rated series ever on the channel. That being the case, you'd expect the reruns to be replayed, right? Nope...right down the rabbit hole. In fact, cable and satellite companies were told by "officials" in "our" government to actually go into the DVRs of their subscribers and remove certain episodes. Only "Bread &amp; Circuses" will be allowed for the stupefied masses of the Money-Changers/Empire-Builders.
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I think we need another forum, maybe called "Preparedness" or something, where the fellow CF'ers can share prep ideas with one another. I'm 100% convinced that things are about to get really worse, with a combination of nature, economic, and other calamities such as the Middle East revolutions creating the perfect storm.

I'm not a hardcore prepper by any stretch, but have been doing my best to prepare for the upcoming collapse. I'd be interested in hearing what others are doing. This is really the only forum online where I actively participate and there's a good sense of comraderie here, so such bouncing of ideas should be very helpful. Just IMO.
 

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foobar75 said:
I think we need another forum, maybe called "Preparedness" or something, where the fellow CF'ers can share prep ideas with one another. I'm 100% convinced that things are about to get really worse, with a combination of nature, economic, and other calamities such as the Middle East revolutions creating the perfect storm.

I'm not a hardcore prepper by any stretch, but have been doing my best to prepare for the upcoming collapse. I'd be interested in hearing what others are doing. This is really the only forum online where I actively participate and there's a good sense of comraderie here, so such bouncing of ideas should be very helpful. Just IMO.



in my opinion, this is an EXCELLENT idea.
 

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Jimmy Chitwood said:
foobar75 said:
I think we need another forum, maybe called "Preparedness" or something, where the fellow CF'ers can share prep ideas with one another. I'm 100% convinced that things are about to get really worse, with a combination of nature, economic, and other calamities such as the Middle East revolutions creating the perfect storm. I'm not a hardcore prepper by any stretch, but have been doing my best to prepare for the upcoming collapse. I'd be interested in hearing what others are doing. This is really the only forum online where I actively participate and there's a good sense of comraderie here, so such bouncing of ideas should be very helpful. Just IMO.
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<div>in my opinion, this is an EXCELLENT idea.</div>
I concur.
 

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More financial subterfuge from the Central Banking Cartel...

Foreign Banks Tapped Fed's Secret Lifeline Most at Crisis Peak

By Bradley Keoun and Craig Torres - Apr 1, 2011 1:53 PM ET

April 1 (Bloomberg) -- Thomas Brown, chief executive officer at Second Curve Capital LLC and a Bloomberg Television contributing editor, discusses the Federal Reserve's discount window lending to banks at the height of the financial crisis. The central bank released about 29,000 pages of secret loan documents yesterday under court order, almost three years after Bloomberg LP first requested details. Brown speaks with Betty Liu on Bloomberg Television's "In the Loop." (Source: Bloomberg)

April 1 (Bloomberg) -- Mark Williams, a former Federal Reserve bank examiner who is now an executive-in-residence at Boston University's School of Management, discusses the Fed's release of data on "discount window" lending during the financial crisis and prospects for transparency at the central bank. Williams speaks with Erik Schatzker and Lizzie O'Leary on Bloomberg Television's "InsideTrack." (Source: Bloomberg)

April 1 (Bloomberg) -- Nouriel Roubini, the New York University economist who predicted the financial crisis, talks about the outlook for monetary policy by the Federal Reserve and the European Central Bank. He speaks from Cernobbio, Italy, with Maryam Nemazee on Bloomberg Television's "The Pulse." (Source: Bloomberg)

March 31 (Bloomberg) -- Bloomberg reporter Bob Ivry discusses the release of the Federal Reserve's discount-window lending records and Goldman Sachs Group Inc.'s borrowing history. He speaks with Matt Miller on Bloomberg Television's "Street Smart." (Source: Bloomberg)
Foreign Banks Tapped Fed's Secret Lifeline Most Crisis Peak

Dexia SA borrowed as much as $33.5 billion through its New York branch from the Fed's "discount window"Â lending program, according to Fed documents released yesterday in response to a Freedom of Information Act request. Photographer: Jock Fistick/Bloomberg

U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke's two-year fight to shield crisis-squeezed banks from the stigma of revealing their public loans protected a lender to local governments in Belgium, a Japanese fishing-cooperative financier and a company part-owned by the Central Bank of Libya.

Dexia SA (DEXB), based in Brussels and Paris, borrowed as much as $33.5 billion through its New York branch from the Fed's "discount window"Â lending program, according to Fed documents released yesterday in response to a Freedom of Information Act request. Dublin-based Depfa Bank Plc, taken over in 2007 by a German real-estate lender later seized by the German government, drew $24.5 billion.

The biggest borrowers from the 97-year-old discount window as the program reached its crisis-era peak were foreign banks, accounting for at least 70 percent of the $110.7 billion borrowed during the week in October 2008 when use of the program surged to a record. The disclosures may stoke a reexamination of the risks posed to U.S. taxpayers by the central bank's role in global financial markets.

"The caricature of the Fed is that it was shoveling money to big New York banks and a bunch of foreigners, and that is not conducive to its long-run reputation,"Â said Vincent Reinhart, the Fed's director of monetary affairs from 2001 to 2007.

Commercial Paper

Separate data disclosed in December on temporary emergency- lending programs set up by the Fed also showed big foreign banks as borrowers. Six European banks were among the top 11 companies that sold the most debt overall -- a combined $274.1 billion -- to the Commercial Paper Funding Facility.

Those programs also loaned hundreds of billions of dollars to the biggest U.S. banks, including JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM), Bank of America Corp. (BAC), Citigroup Inc. and Morgan Stanley. (MS)

The discount window, which began lending in 1914, is the Fed's primary program for providing cash to banks to help them avert a liquidity squeeze. In an April 2009 speech, Bernanke said that revealing the names of discount-window borrowers "might lead market participants to infer weakness."Â

The Fed released the documents after court orders upheld FOIA requests filed by Bloomberg LP, the parent company of Bloomberg News, and News Corp.'s Fox News Network LLC. In all, the Fed released more than 29,000 pages of documents, covering the discount window and several Fed emergency-lending programs established during the crisis from August 2007 to March 2010.

Public Outrage

"The American people are going to be outraged when they understand what has been going on,"Â U.S. Representative Ron Paul, a Texas Republican who is chairman of the House subcommittee that oversees the Fed, said in a Bloomberg Television interview.

"What in the world are we doing thinking we can pass out tens of billions of dollars to banks that are overseas?"Â said Paul, who has advocated abolishing the Fed. "We have problems here at home with people not being able to pay their mortgages, and they're losing their homes."Â

David Skidmore, a Fed spokesman, declined to comment. Fed officials have said all the discount window loans made during the worst financial crisis since the 1930s have been repaid with interest.

The Monetary Control Act of 1980 says that a U.S. branch or agency of a foreign bank that maintains reserves at a Fed bank may receive discount-window credit.

"Our job is to provide liquidity to keep the American economy going,"Â Richard W. Fisher, president of the Federal Reserve's regional bank in Dallas, told reporters today. "The loans were all paid back and they were well-collateralized."Â
Wachovia's Loans

Wachovia Corp. was the only U.S. bank among the top five discount-window borrowers as the crisis peaked.

The company, based in Charlotte, North Carolina, borrowed $29 billion from the discount window on Oct. 6, in the week after it almost collapsed, the data show. Wachovia agreed in principle to sell itself to Citigroup Inc. on Sept. 29, before announcing a definitive agreement to sell itself to Wells Fargo & Co. (WFC) on Oct. 3. The Wells Fargo deal closed at the end of 2008.

Wells Fargo spokeswoman Mary Eshet declined to comment on Wachovia's discount-window borrowing.

Bank of Scotland Plc, which had $11 billion outstanding from the discount window on Oct. 29, 2008, was a unit of Edinburgh-based HBOS Plc, which announced its takeover by London-based Lloyds TSB Group Plc in September 2008.

The borrowings in 2008 didn't involve Lloyds, which hadn't completed its acquisition of HBOS at the time, said Sara Evans, a spokeswoman for the company, which is now called Lloyds Banking Group Plc. (LLOY)
‘Historic' Use

"This is historic usage and on each occasion the borrowing was repaid at maturity,"Â Evans said. "The discount window has not been accessed by the group since."Â

Other foreign discount-window borrowers on Oct. 29, 2008, included Societe Generale (GLE) SA, France's second-biggest bank; and Norinchukin Bank, which finances and provides services to Japanese agricultural, fishing and forestry cooperatives. Paris- based Societe Generale borrowed $5 billion that day, and Tokyo- based Norinchukin borrowed $6 billion.

Jim Galvin, a spokesman for Societe Generale, declined to comment.

"We used it in concert with Japanese and U.S. authorities in the purpose of contributing to the stabilization of the market,"Â said Fumiaki Tanaka, a spokesman at Norinchukin.
Bank of China

Bank of China, the country's oldest bank, was the second- largest borrower from the Fed's discount window during a nine- day period in August 2007 as subprime-mortgage defaults first roiled broader markets. The Chinese bank's New York branch borrowed $198 million on Aug. 17 of that month.

"It was just routine borrowing,"Â said Dale Zhu, head of the Bank of China New York branch's treasury.

Two Deutsche Bank AG divisions borrowed $1 billion each, according to a document released yesterday.

Arab Banking Corp., then 29 percent-owned by the Libyan central bank, used its New York branch to get at least 73 loans from the Fed in the 18 months after Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. collapsed. The largest single loan amount outstanding was $1.2 billion in July 2009, according to the Fed documents.

The foreign banks took advantage of Fed lending programs even as their host countries moved to prop them up or orchestrate takeovers.

Dexia received billions of euros in capital and funding guarantees from France, Belgium and Luxembourg during the credit crunch.
‘High-Quality' Collateral

The Fed loans were "secured by high-quality U.S. dollar municipal securities,"Â and used only to fund U.S. loans, bonds and other financial assets, Ulrike Pommee, a spokeswoman for the company, said in an e-mail.

"The Fed played its role as central banker, providing liquidity to banks that needed it,"Â she said, adding that Dexia's outstanding balance at the Fed has been reduced to zero. "This information is backward-looking."Â

Depfa was taken over in October 2007 by Hypo Real Estate Holding AG, which in turn was seized by the German government in 2009.

"Since the end of May 2010, Depfa is not making use of the Federal Reserve Discount Window,"Â Oliver Gruss, a spokesman for the bank, said in an e-mailed statement. He declined to comment further.
Dollar Assets

Many foreign banks own large pools of dollar assets -- bonds, securities and loans -- funded by short-term borrowings in money markets. The system works when markets are calm, said Dino Kos, former executive vice president at the New York Fed in charge of open-market operations. In times of stress, banks can be subject to sudden liquidity squeezes, he said.

"They are playing with fire,"Â said Kos, a managing director at Hamiltonian Associates Ltd. in New York, an economic research firm. "When the market dries up, and they can't roll over their funding -- bingo, you have a liquidity crisis."Â

The potential for dollar shortages remains. As the Greek fiscal crisis roiled financial markets last year, the Fed had to open swap lines with the European Central Bank, the Swiss National Bank, the Bank of England and two other central banks to make more dollars available around the world. That move was partially the result of U.S. money market funds shrinking their exposure to European bank commercial paper.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-01/foreign-banks-tapped-fed-s-lifeline-most-as-bernanke-kept-borrowers-secret.html

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An article entitled "US Economy "on the Brink of Collapse"Â￾"

The federal government is either going to commit to wild inflation or it's going to run out of money. What happens if the United States government just plain runs out of money? When no one will lend us any more? When the tax revenues from a collapsed economy with massive unemployment won't cover even the interest on previous loans and bonds? Eventually welfare and food stamps will have to be cut if not eliminated completely. Obama recently transferred money from food stamps so he could bail out a number of states, which are having trouble paying their teachers. Obama is struggling just to keep an illusion of "normalcy"Â￾ up through the November election. After that, many states WILL start running out of money for teachers (and everything else) and the Feds will have to find billions of dollars somewhere to pay back the food stamps program.

The Democrats will choose to print more money, and then the final slide into collapse and anarchy will begin. The Europeans know it. The Chinese know it, which is why they're trying to unload US Treasury bonds. Despite all the propaganda from the liberals, most Americans know that the economy is in terrible shape. They believe their eyes, not the propaganda from the liberal evening news.

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this video speaks for itself. of course, the question of how reliable the source is should be considered.

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The Globalist Elite continues it's march to sink the (fiat) U.S. dollar...along w/ our Republic.

BRICS demand global monetary shake-up, greater influence

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(L-R) India's Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, Russia's President Dmitry Medvedev, China's President Hu Jintao, Brazil's President Dilma Rousseff and South African President Jacob Zuma attend a joint news conference at the BRICS Leaders Meeting in Sanya, Hainan province April 14, 2011. The development banks of the five BRICS nations agreed in principle on Thursday to establish mutual credit lines denominated in their local currencies, not in dollars. REUTERS/How Hwee Young/Pool
On Thursday April 14, 2011, 7:32 am EDT

By Abhijit Neogy and Alexei Anishchuk

SANYA, China (Reuters) - The BRICS group of emerging-market powers kept up the pressure on Thursday for a revamped global monetary system that relies less on the dollar and for a louder voice in international financial institutions.

The leaders of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa also called for stronger regulation of commodity derivatives to dampen excessive volatility in food and energy prices, which they said posed new risks for the recovery of the world economy.

Meeting on the southern Chinese island of Hainan, they said the recent financial crisis had exposed the inadequacies of the current monetary order, which has the dollar as its linchpin.

What was needed, they said in a statement, was "a broad-based international reserve currency system providing stability and certainty" -- thinly veiled criticism of what the BRICS see as Washington's neglect of its global monetary responsibilities.

The BRICS are worried that America's large trade and budget deficits will eventually debase the dollar. They also begrudge the financial and political privileges that come with being the leading reserve currency.

"The world economy is undergoing profound and complex changes," Chinese President Hu Jintao said. "The era demands that the BRICS countries strengthen dialogue and cooperation."

In another dig at the dollar, the development banks of the five BRICS nations agreed to establish mutual credit lines denominated in their local currencies, not the U.S. currency.

The head of China Development Bank (CDB), Chen Yuan, said he was prepared to lend up to 10 billion yuan to fellow BRICS, and his Russian counterpart said he was looking to borrow the yuan equivalent of at least $500 million via CDB.

"We think this will undoubtedly broaden the opportunities for Russian companies to diversify their loans," Vladimir Dmitriev, the chairman of VEB, Russia's state development bank, told reporters.

ALL DOWN TO THE BRICS

The call by the BRICS for a new monetary order are not new.

But, coming hours before a meeting in Washington of finance ministers from the Group of Seven industrial nations, the traditional power brokers of the world economy, Thursday's communique showed the growing confidence of emerging markets.

Burdened by heavy debt, the United States, the euro zone and Japan are struggling to shake off the lingering effects of the 2008 global financial crisis. Rich countries will grow 2.4 percent this year and 2.6 percent in 2012, the International Monetary fund forecast this week.

By contrast, less well-off countries have emerged relatively unscathed. The IMF is forecasting that emerging and developing countries will grow 6.5 percent both this year and next.

"The quality and the durability of the global economic recovery process depends to a great measure on how the BRICS economies perform," Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said.

The leaders reviewed the global role of the Special Drawing Right, the IMF's accounting unit and reserve asset, which some experts believe could grow into a partial substitute for the dollar.

But they stepped around the issue of whether the yuan should join the SDR, saying only that they welcomed discussion of the composition of the SDR's basket of currencies.

A member-country official said the group was split on whether China's currency, which cannot be freely exchanged except for trade and investment purposes, met the criteria for being part of the SDR.

"There is a need for a broad-basing of the international monetary system. The SDR is an instrument to do that, but we still have no unanimity on the inclusion of the Chinese currency in the SDR as of now," said the official, who declined to be identified.

The SDR now comprises the dollar, the euro, the Japanese yen and the British pound.

"India has said that the SDR is an accounting mechanism used by the IMF, and countries such as Brazil have also said that this (the yuan) should be convertible first," he added.

Though keen on a more diverse global monetary order, Beijing has given no indication that it is ready to make the yuan freely tradable or to dismantle capital controls as the price for the prestige of being part of the SDR.

BROAD-BRUSH TREATMENT

Emerging economies have already won more say in the way the IMF is run, but the BRICS leaders said they were still under-represented.

"We ... agreed on the need for the reform of international financial institutions in order to promote a just economic order," South African President Jacob Zuma said.

On the hot topic of capital flows, the BRICS called "for more attention" to the risks posed by massive cross-border flows of money but went no further.

The group said the world economy, of which its members make up nearly a fifth, still faced headwinds.

"The developments in west Asia and north Africa, and the aftermath of the huge tragedy that befell Japan, have introduced fresh uncertainties in the global recovery process," Singh said.

Swings in commodity prices are also a prime area of concern for the BRICS. China is the world's biggest importer of many commodities; the other BRICS members are major exporters of natural resources.

China hopes the group will be able to agree on a common stance on commodity price fluctuations at the G20 summit in the French city of Cannes in November.

The main aim of the BRICS is to forge a common emerging-market negotiating stance on issues from climate change to world trade and to act as a counterweight to the West in settings such as the Group of 20 forum of advanced and developing economies.

The BRICS caucus is a work in progress. Thursday's brief meeting, held under tight security at a beach-front hotel, was only its third summit and the first to include South Africa.

The group brings together five countries that, though frequently united in their disinclination to do the West's bidding, are a political and economic mosaic.

"Our economic potential, political influence and our development prospects as an alliance are exceptional," Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/BRICS-demand-global-monetary-rb-217782600.html?x=0&.v=3

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We could call the New Depression, the Obama Diversity Depression.
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An article entitled "Only one executive is in jail over finacial crises."

Of course numerous politicians did not just enable the banks, they were demanding high risk mortgage schemes. Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Barney Frank, and much of the congressional black caucus were on the forefront of demanding banks make high risk mortgages in the name of "increasing minority home-ownership."Â￾ When a group of House Republicans banded together and tried to reign in the banks, the black caucus screamed "racism"Â￾ from the floor of the US House of Representatives

http://cofcc.org/2011/04/only-one-executive-is-in-jail-over-finacial-crises/
 

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it is concise, precise, and far too informative to quote only the relevant bits (as the entire article is important), so i'll just provide a link: Fed chairman warns of "recovery ending event." in addition to the other information, the link also includes video.
 

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This article, from a left-populist site, gives a pretty good description of what's going on, namelyanother form of economicclass warfareby draining money from the poor and much of the already dwindling middle class to the rich. At least this is the desired result of the PTB. Whether the U.S. economy can avoid crashing from one cause or another -- or become pretty much dysfunctional without revolutionary changes that make it a fair system again-- is of course yet to be seen.

http://www.counterpunch.org/whitney04272011.html
 

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Jim Rogers says we are in for a terrible time and the American media doesn't care - more worried about celebrity divorces. Good interview and sobering talk:

[tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA1bUIrAtM4[/tube]
 

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you beat me to it, Quiet Speed. Rogers speaks the obvious, and it is so incredibly simple. how "weird" that no one in the mainstream media is talking about the truth. i guess they are all too busy with the "recovery" and all. pfft.
 

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Looks like things are getting worse over in Greece.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/16/business/global/16drachma.html?hp=&pagewanted=all

It's sad to see what's happening to these proud and nationalistic people, but then again, they have no one but themselves to blame for this mess. Greece is one of the most ridiculous welfare states in the world, not to mention a haven for tax cheaters. I'm no fan of higher taxes or income re-distribution, but you cannot sustain a ponzi scheme where you promise generous benefits to people, while at the same time bleeding the system dry. I suspect this is going to spread to other countries in Europe, namely Spain, Italy, Ireland, Portugal, et al. Combined with the mess in the Middle East, it should make for a toxic brew in that entire region over the next few months.

I wonder how long before the whole thing crashes here at home. As long as the welfare checks and food stamps keep coming, things should be fine, but eventually, there will be almost no givers left, and only takers fighting for the scraps. Interesting times ahead for sure....
 

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More Americans Think Economy Will Never Recover

Published: Friday, 3 Jun 2011 | 1:26 PM ET

By: Christina Cheddar Berk
News Editor

The mixed signals regarding the economy's health are taking a toll.

About 10 percent of Americans say they never expect their spending to return to pre-recession levels.

Americans are growing increasingly doubtful about direction of the US economy, according to the latest survey from business-advisory firm AlixPartners.

In fact, an increasing number, some 61 percent, say they don't expect to return to their respective pre-recession lifestyles until the spring of 2014, if ever.

What's worse, a full 10 percent said they expect they will never return to pre-recession spending.

That's a more pessimistic view than last year, when those surveyed expected that they could be back to pre-recession spending levels by the middle of 2013.

"Americans continue to push their expectations for return to a pre-recession 'normal' further and further into the futureâ€"close enough for comfort, but far enough away to seem realistic," said Fred Crawford, CEO of AlixPartners. "But as that happens, more and more it seems normal is actually where we are right now."

The latest employment report, which showed that U.S. employers hired far few workers than expected in May, only serves to reinforce these attitudes.

"It's a vicious cycle," Crawford said. "Americans need to see a significant decrease in unemployment to feel confident in the economic recovery, but companies are waiting to see increased demand for their products and services before they begin hiring and making job-creating capital expenditures."

In the latest survey, some 63 percent of Americans said they feel "not good" or "bad" about the state of the US economy, representing a significant increase from May 2010 when only about 49 percent of those polled felt this gloomy.

The survey also found that Americans overwhelmingly expect to delay by at least 12 months major purchases and expenditures such as spending on new cars, home repairs and vacations.

There have already been signs of this in the latest retail sales reports that came out earlier this week from a handful of major retailers.

Overall, sales at stores open at least a year rose 5.0 percent in May, which is below the 5.4 percent increase that Wall Street expected, according to Thomson Reuters data.

While some analysts used a number of excuses, including high gasoline prices, poor weather, and lackluster merchandise, to explain away the disappointing results, the findings of the survey may suggest that consumers are hunkering down amid the uncertainty.

The view was expressed Thursday by Target CEO Gregg Steinhafel, who said that traffic at Target stores slowed in the second half of the month.

"Our guests continue to shop cautiously in light of higher energy costs and inflationary pressures on their household budgets," Steinhafel said, in the company's monthly sales press release.

AlixPartners is by no means the first organization to recognize this growing pessimism.

Goldman Sachs economist Jan Hatzius said the number of consumers who believe they have a chance to bring home more money one year from now is at its lowest level in 25 years, based on his analysis of the University of Michigan and Thomson Reuters consumer sentiment poll.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/43268037

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An article entitled "Morgenson And Rosner's Reckless Endangerment: On Trail Of Minority Mortgage Meltdownâ€"But Where's Dubya?"


Morgenson deserve credit for repeatedly emphasizing the role that racial politics played in justifying the credit debacle. In contrast, we saw a couple of weeks ago that Peter Wallison's dissent to the financial crash report to Congress avoided mentioning the M-word ("minority"Â), merely saying the quotas were aimed at "lower income"Â borrowers. To their credit, Morgenson and Rosner use far fewer PC euphemisms.

They also make clear that, while the system of mortgage backscratching perfected by Johnson was very good for racial organizers like ACORN and La Raza, it wasn't good for the average black or Hispanic in the long runâ€"or even in the short run.

The "diversity" rationale empowered boiler room operators like Countrywide to target, in the name of closing the racial gap, innumerate blacks and Hispanics with exploitative subprime loans. One former Countrywide broker told Morgenson that Countrywide barely broke even on loans in Santa Monica, a high IQ white community home to screenwriters and Hollywood agents. In contrast, at Countrywide's Slauson officeâ€"in the ‘hood under the LAX flight pathâ€"brokers were expected to pile on points in the fine print because the borrowers seldom crunched the numbers themselves.

Was this predatory lending? Sure!

But, remember, it was also predatory borrowing, predatory brokering, predatory securitizing, and so forth.

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/110605_reckless_endangerment.htm
 

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Michael said:
An article entitled "Morgenson And Rosner's Reckless Endangerment: On Trail Of Minority Mortgage Meltdownâ€"But Where's Dubya?"


Morgenson deserve credit for repeatedly emphasizing the role that racial politics played in justifying the credit debacle. In contrast, we saw a couple of weeks ago that Peter Wallison's dissent to the financial crash report to Congress avoided mentioning the M-word ("minority"Â), merely saying the quotas were aimed at "lower income"Â borrowers. To their credit, Morgenson and Rosner use far fewer PC euphemisms.

They also make clear that, while the system of mortgage backscratching perfected by Johnson was very good for racial organizers like ACORN and La Raza, it wasn't good for the average black or Hispanic in the long runâ€"or even in the short run.

The "diversity" rationale empowered boiler room operators like Countrywide to target, in the name of closing the racial gap, innumerate blacks and Hispanics with exploitative subprime loans. One former Countrywide broker told Morgenson that Countrywide barely broke even on loans in Santa Monica, a high IQ white community home to screenwriters and Hollywood agents. In contrast, at Countrywide's Slauson officeâ€"in the ‘hood under the LAX flight pathâ€"brokers were expected to pile on points in the fine print because the borrowers seldom crunched the numbers themselves.

Was this predatory lending? Sure!

But, remember, it was also predatory borrowing, predatory brokering, predatory securitizing, and so forth.

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/110605_reckless_endangerment.htm
If you want to see how this worked look at inner city Cleveland or Philadelphia. I have looked at previous sales prices on houses that are now going for a song(take it off the banks hands). Many went for 100K and now cost the price of a 20K car or less. People have been buried by this lending. Even some Whites who may have tried to be a slumlord have probably been buried by this too....
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10 Tipping Points Which Could Potentially Plunge The World Into A Horrific Economic Nightmare



The global economy has become so incredibly unstable at this point that it is not going to take much to plunge the world into a horrific economic nightmare. The foundations of the world economic system are so decayed and so corrupted that even a stiff breeze could potentially topple the entire structure over. Over the past couple of months a constant parade of bad economic news has come streaming in from Europe, Asia and the United States. Signs of an impending economic slowdown are everywhere. So what "tipping point" will trigger the next global economic downturn? Nobody knows for sure, but potential tipping points are all around us.







Today, the global economic system is even more vulnerable than it was back in 2008. Virtually none of the systemic problems that contributed to the 2008 collapse have been fixed.


Mark Mobius, the head of the emerging markets desk at Templeton Asset Management, was recently was quoted in Forbes as saying the following....
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"There is definitely going to be another financial crisis around the corner because we haven't solved any of the things that caused the previous crisis."</BLOCKQUOTE>


The "financial reform" law that Barack Obama and the Congress passed a while back was a complete and total joke. They might as well have written the law on toilet paper for all the good that it is doing.


We did not learn from our mistakes and our future economic lessons are going to be even more painful.


The world is drowning in a mountain of debt, the global financial system is packed to the gills with toxic derivatives, everyone is leveraged to the hilt and the dominoes could start falling at any time.


I am not the only one that is warning that another financial collapse is coming. In fact, a whole lot of people have been warning about the next financial collapse lately.


So what will the tipping point for the next collapse be?


The following are some potential nominees....


Tipping Point #1: Syria


Syria is a situation to watch very, very closely. The Syrian government is in a lot of trouble right now. Sadly, the instability inside Syria probably makes war with Israel even more likely.


Make no mistake - a war between Israel and Syria has been brewing for a long, long time and at some point it will happen. When it happens, the entire Middle East may erupt in warfare.


Just the other day, a very troubling incident happened in the area around the Golan Heights. The following is an excerpt from a report by The Daily Mail about the incident....
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"About 20 pro-Palestinian demonstrators were killed and 325 injured yesterday when Israeli forces opened fire on them as they crossed the border from Syria into occupied territories, according to reports."</BLOCKQUOTE>


At this point, the Syrian government is probably glad that the attention has been taken off of them at least for a while. The Syrian government has been getting a lot of bad press lately. The following is an excerpt from a recent report by Human Rights Watch about the treatment of protesters inside Syria....
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"The methods of torture included prolonged beatings with sticks, twisted wires, and other devices; electric shocks administered with Tasers and electric batons; use of improvised metal and wooden 'racks'; and, in at least one case documented by Human Rights Watch, the rape of a male detainee with a baton.


"Interrogators and guards also subjected detainees to various forms of humiliating treatment, such as urinating on the detainees, stepping on their faces, and making them kiss the officers' shoes. Several detainees said they were repeatedly threatened with imminent execution."</BLOCKQUOTE>





So in light of the "precedent" that we recently set in Libya, does this mean that we will be "forced" to conduct a "humanitarian mission" inside Syria as well?


Syria is one tipping point that we all need to keep a close eye on.


Tipping Point #2: Iran


The Iranian nuclear program is in the news again. A new report by RAND Corporation researcher Gregory S. Jones claims that Iran could have a nuclear weapon within 2 months. His report is based on recent findings by the International Atomic Energy Agency. According to Jones, airstrikes alone would be incapable of stopping Iran's nuclear weapons program at this point. Instead, Jones says that a "military occupation" would be required.


It is a minor miracle that a war with Iran has not erupted yet. It seems almost inevitable that at some point either the United States or Israel will use military force to try to stop Iran's nuclear program.


When that happens, it is going to cause a major shock to the global economy.


Tipping Point #3: Libya


NATO has made it abundantly clear that Moammar Gadhafi will no longer be tolerated. In fact, NATO apparently plans to reduce Tripoli to a heap of smoking ruins if that is what it takes to bring about the fall of Gadhafi.


What a "humanitarian mission" we have going in Libya, eh? It turns out that NATO believes that the United Nations gave it permission to bomb television stations and to make attack runs with helicopters.


Russian Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov recently said that by using attack helicopters, NATO has moved dangerously close to turning the Libya operation into a ground invasion....
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"Using attack helicopters, inmy view, is thelast but one step before theland operation."</BLOCKQUOTE>


So why is Libya a potential tipping point?


It isn't because Gadhafi is a threat. He is toast.


It is because the rest of the world is watching what is happening in Libya, and that is raising global tensions.


Even if Gadhafi falls, the Libyan operation will still be a failure because it has brought us all significantly closer to World War III.


Tipping Point #4: More Revolutions In The Middle East


The revolutions throughout the Middle East earlier this year sent oil prices absolutely skyrocketing and they have remained at elevated levels.


And in case you haven't noticed, revolutions continue to sweep the Middle East.


Have you seen what has been happening in Yemen lately?


Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh has burns over 40% of his body and he has suffered a collapsed lung as a result of a recent attack.


If violence and protests throughout the Middle East become even more intense as the weather warms up this summer that could have a very significant impact on world financial markets.


Tipping Point #5: Fukushima


The mainstream news has gotten a bit tired of covering it, but the situation at Fukushima is still a complete and total disaster.


Japan's Nuclear Emergency Response Headquarters admitted on Monday that three reactors experienced "full meltdowns" in the aftermath of the earthquake and tsunami in March.


Did it really take them nearly three months to figure this out, or were they lying to the rest of the world all of this time?


The truth is that the nuclear disaster at Fukushima is far worse than the mainstream media has been telling us. If you doubt this, just check out this excellent article or this article by Natural News: "Land around Fukushima now radioactive dead zone; resembles target struck by atomic bomb".


The economic impact of the Fukushima disaster is going to continue to unfold over an extended period of time. It turns out that Japan is now officially in a recession. Their economy contracted at a 3.7 percent annualized rate during the first quarter.


Look for more bad economic numbers to come out of Japan for the rest of the year. Considering the fact that the Japanese economy is the third largest economy in the world, the fact that they are struggling so badly right now is not a good sign for the rest of us.


Tipping Point #6: Oil Prices


The price of oil is going to continue to be one of the biggest economic stories for the rest of this year and for 2012 as well.


The last time U.S. energy expenditures were over 9 percent of GDP was in 2008 and we quickly plunged into the deepest economic downturn since the Great Depression.


Well, we have reached the significant 9 percent figure once again in 2011, and many fear that once again high oil prices will cause another major economic decline.


Tipping Point #7: Government Austerity


In the United States, it is not just the federal government that is drowning in debt.


All over America, there are state and local governments that are financial basket cases.


I don't always agree with the time frames that Meredith Whitney puts out there, but she is absolutely correct that we are going to see a massive municipal bond crisis. The following is an excerpt from a recent report about Whitney's predictions on CNN....
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"Meredith Whitney is issuing a fresh warning to mutual funds, banks, and politicians: The state of state finances is far worse than what you think, or at least than what you've been willing to tell the investors and taxpayers who will eventually carry the burden."</BLOCKQUOTE>


Many state and local governments are attempting to get their budgets balanced by making huge budget cuts. But most of the time these austerity programs also include the elimination of a lot of government jobs.


UBS Investment Research is projecting that state and local governments will combine to slash a whopping 450,000 jobs by the end of next year.


So where will the half a million good jobs come from to replace all of those lost jobs?


Tipping Point #8: The European Sovereign Debt Crisis


Greece is just the tip of the iceberg in Europe.


Moody's downgraded Greek debt again last Wednesday. This time Moody's downgraded Greek debt by three levels all the way down to Caa1http://finviz.com/forex_charts.ashx?t=EURUSD. At this point, the yield on 10-year Greek bonds is over 15 percent.


The EU has been going crazy trying to deal with the Greek debt crisis. The truth is that a default by the Greek government would be absolutely catastrophic. If you do not understand the kind of chaos a Greek default would set off on world financial markets, just read this editorial.


But Greece is not the only major European nation with a massive debt problem.


The government of Ireland is already indicating that they may need another bailout.


Portugal, Spain and Italy are also on the verge of collapse.


So will the EU bail all of these nations out for years and years to come?


At some point will the whole house of cards come crashing down?


Everyone needs to keep watching what is going on in Europe. The status quo is not sustainable and it cannot go on forever.


Tipping Point #9: The Dying U.S. Dollar


The euro is not the only major currency that is in trouble.


The U.S. dollar is also slowly dying.


On April 18th, Standard &amp; Poor's altered its outlook on U.S. government debt from "stable" to "negative" and warned that the U.S. could soon lose its prized AAA rating.


The sad truth is that faith in the U.S. dollar and in U.S. Treasuries is rapidly declining. The mainstream news is not reporting on it much, but right now the Chinese are rapidly dumping U.S. government debt.


As the dollar declines, so will the purchasing power of average Americans. We are already seeing a tremendous amount of inflation in 2011.


But this is just the beginning.


A lot worse is going to be coming down the road.


Tipping Point #10: Drought


A lot of people that read my articles doubt that we will ever see a major global food crisis.


But one is coming.


It is just a matter of time.


Even now, many areas of the world are experiencing very serious droughts. The following is from a recent Bloomberg article....
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Parts of China, the biggest grower, had the least rain in a century, some European regions are the driest in 50 years and almost half the winter-wheat crop in the U.S., the largest exporter, is rated poor or worse. Inventory is dropping 8.8 percent, the most in five years, Rabobank International says. Prices will advance 20 percent to as high as $9.25 a bushel by Dec. 31, a Bloomberg survey of 14 analysts and traders shows.</BLOCKQUOTE>


Are you concerned yet?


You should be.


But if you prefer some mindless pablum that will make you feel better, we have some of that for you too.


Larry Summers, the former director of the National Economic Council under Barack Obama, recently told CNBC the following....
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"We definitely hit a slower patch, but I think the basic fact that the terrible financial strains we had are abating, remains in place, and I expect this recovery to continue for a substantial period of time."</BLOCKQUOTE>


Does that make you feel better?


Larry Summers says that everything is going to be okay.


It would be great if Summers was actually right, but sadly he is not.


In fact, the worst economic times that America has ever seen are ahead.


The following is a brief excerpt from a recent interview with Dmitry Orlov about the coming economic collapse that was posted on shtfplan.com....
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First you have financial collapse, which is basically the volume of debt that has to be taken on in order for the economy to continue functioning, cannot continue. We're seeing that right now in Greece, we're probably going to see that in Japan, we're definitely at a point now in the United States where even if you raised the income tax to 100 percent, there's absolutely no way of covering the liabilities of the U.S. federal government. So, we're at that point now but the workout of the financial collapse is not all quite there. We don't quite have a worthless currency but that's in the works.


That, of course, is followed by commercial collapse especially in a country like the United States that imports two thirds of its oil. A lot of that is on credit and if a little bit of that oil goes missing then the economy starts to fall apart because nothing moves unless you burn oil in the United States and, of course, a lot of goods that are sold everywhere are imported again, on credit.</BLOCKQUOTE>


When the U.S. dollar dies and our financial system collapses we are not going to be able to get all of the things that we need from the rest of the world so cheaply any longer.


That is going to cause fundamental changes inside the United States.


Right now, the economic news just seems to get worse and worse, but this is just the beginning.


What is eventually going to happen in this country is going to be so nightmarish that most Americans could not even imagine it right now.


So are our leaders doing anything to prepare for the coming economic crisis?


No, they are too busy with other things.


The big political news of the day was U.S. Representative Anthony Weiner finally admitting that he sent out lewd photos of himself over Twitter to women that he was not married to.


We have become the laughingstock of the world and the economic collapse has not even happened yet.
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Most of the jobs created in the US in March and April were minimun wage jobs. A large chunk of those jobs came from McDonald's hiring 50,000 employees. Unemployment is up again to 9.1 % but it's really around 12 % and probably close to 20 % with all the under employed people counted. Great job by Obama!
 
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