Coming Financial Crisis Worse Than ’29?

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More wonderful news on the economic front.....Government Food Program
More Than 17 million Households Reported Having Difficulty Buying Food in 2009

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The goodwill of taxpayers and charities has helped stabilize rising hunger rates, but more than 17 million households still reported having difficulty buying all the food they needed last year.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture reported that in 2009, nearly 50 million Americans -- 15 percent of U.S. families -- were "food insecure," meaning they were "uncertain of having, or unable to acquire, enough food to meet the needs of all their family members" -- either they didn't have enough money or lacked other resources to buy food. One in 10 families with children worried about food at some point in the year. Between 500,000 and 1 million families were so strapped the children had to go without eating at some point.

The hunger rates remained steady till 2008, when they jumped to the highest level since the USDA began tracking hunger in 1995. Dramatically rising unemployment might have continued that jump, agency officials said, if the government had not stepped up food aid.
 

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As various posters have stated the markets have been manipulated by hedge funds and the government is coming down hard on some of these firms. This is from the Wall Street Journal....Hedge Funds Raided in Probe
FBI Agents Seize Documents in 3 Cities as Insider-Trading Investigation Widens

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By SUSAN PULLIAM, MICHAEL ROTHFELD And JENNY STRASBURG

A three-year insider-trading investigation shifted into high gear Monday as government agents raided the offices of three large hedge funds, sending shock waves through the financial world.
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In coordinated raids in New York, Connecticut and Massachusetts, Federal Bureau of Investigation agents seized documents at the offices of Level Global Investors LP, Diamondback Capital Management LLC and Loch Capital Management LLC.

"The FBI is executing court-authorized search warrants in an ongoing investigation," said Richard Kolko, an FBI spokesman, who declined to comment further. Diamondback and Level Global confirmed the raids and said they were cooperating with the investigation. A lawyer for Loch Capital, Leonard Pierce, declined to comment.

Level Global and Diamondback are both run by former managers of Steve Cohen's giant SAC Capital Advisors hedge fund. A spokesman for SAC, which wasn't raided, declined to comment.

The raids, first reported on The Wall Street Journal's website, underscore the potential breadth of the investigation, which is being conducted by the FBI, the Manhattan U.S. Attorney's office and the Securities and Exchange Commission. More raids are likely in the next few days, according to people familiar with the matter.

The raids helped push the Dow Jones Industrial Average down about 150 points before a rally left the index down 24.97 points. Financial stocks were hit, with Goldman Sachs Group Inc. down 3.4% following news that investigators also were examining whether Goldman bankers had leaked information about deals. Goldman declined to comment.

The action Monday follows disclosure of the investigation by the Journal on Friday night. Authorities are worried about the potential for possible subjects of the overall probe to flee or destroy documents, say people familiar with the matter. Representatives of the Manhattan U.S. attorney's office, FBI and SEC declined to comment.

The Journal reported that federal authorities are preparing insider-trading charges that could ensnare consultants, investment bankers, hedge-fund and mutual-fund traders and analysts across the U.S., and that some charges could be brought by year-end.

A Diamondback spokesman said the firm "is fully operational" and continues "to manage the portfolio and Diamondback's business for the benefit of our investors."

At Level Global, roughly two dozen agents staged the raid, according to a person familiar with the matter. A Level Global spokesman said it is "fully operational" and continues "to work diligently for the benefit of our investors."

FBI agents raided the offices of three hedge funds -- Diamondback Capital Management, Level Global Investors and Loch Capital Management -- as part of a high-profile insider-trading investigation. Dennis Berman has details.

The broad investigation illustrates how law-enforcement agencies are using an increasingly wide range of tools to pursue alleged insider-trading rings. Insider trading has been difficult to prove to juries, since law-enforcement agencies need to demonstrate the intent to defraud.

Some aspects of the current probe could be particularly difficult to prove, if charges are brought. Some legal specialists say authorities appear to be seeking to criminalize typical market behavior, such as hedge funds vying to gain an edge by gathering intelligence on a company from a wide range of sources.

The issue is blurry because insider trading isn't defined by statute. The dividing line between criminal and legitimate behavior has evolved in cases stretching back decades, as courts interpreted the antifraud provisions of securities laws enacted after the 1929 stock-market crash.

Level Global, based in Greenwich, Conn., is run by David Ganek, a former SAC Capital trader, and manages about $4 billion. Diamondback Capital, in Stamford, Conn., oversees more than $5 billion in assets.

Loch Capital, based in Boston, had $750 million in assets at the start of this year, according to SEC filings. The firm, run by brothers Timothy and Todd McSweeney, didn't return messages seeking comment.
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There appear to be ties among some of the players being investigated. Level Global partner Anthony Chiasson is a former client of John Kinnucan, a Portland, Ore., analyst who was visited by FBI agents last month. Mr. Kinnucan said Monday that Level Global cancelled Mr. Chiasson's subscription to his service in August because the firm was not happy with the product.

People close to the situation say Mr. Chiasson also was an associate of former Galleon Group fund manager Todd Deutsch, whose activities the Journal has reported are being examined. Galleon was ensnared in an insider-trading case last year that has generated 14 guilty pleas. Mr. Chiasson didn't respond to requests for comment.

Mr. Deutsch, who received a subpoena last fall, and Mr. Chiasson spoke frequently and exchanged stock ideas, people close to the matter say. Mr. Deutsch's lawyer declined to comment.

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Another hedge fund whose activities are being examined is Chicago-based Balyasny Asset Management LP, the people familiar with the matter say. Balyasny, which reported $1.8 billion in assets under management at midyear, didn't respond to requests for comment.

A criminal complaint against a cooperating witness in the Galleon case, hedge-fund manager Steven Fortuna, said that a Boston trader provided him with nonpublic information about a data-storage hardware firm that people familiar with the matter say is EMC Corp.

The individual referred to in that complaint is former Balyasny analyst Mark Adams, who once worked at the fund's Boston office, these people say. Mr. Adams, who also had worked as an SAC analyst, didn't return calls for comment. Mr. Fortuna declined to comment.
â€"Jean Eaglesham contributed to this article.
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An article entitled "Homeless Problem Gets Worse"

Local governments and municipalities are getting increasingly desperate to find some way to deal with all of the problems caused by the Obama Depression, from illegal immigration to mass unemployment and homelessness. Federal authorities usually won't allow local government to apply any kind of corrective action to alleviate the evils that Obama has caused â€"such as rounding up illegal aliens. Local governments are responding to the homeless problem by sweeping it under the rug, creating new laws to harass the homeless until they leave.

Most homelessness used to be caused by drug or alcohol abuse, but that is no longer the case. There are now millions of foreclosed families all across America who were literally turned out onto the street. The lucky ones move in with their parents, but many people don't have that option. They literally have no place to go. Many cities are too dangerous for a homeless family. Most cities are too cold this time of year, and so the homeless are migrating southward and into the countryside like ancient tribes. seeking someplace where at least they won't freeze to death.

Many people now live in the big city in an RV moving it a couple times per week. One recent news (below) reports that a tent city in New Jersey has only grown bigger, and many people have been there for years.

http://www.davidduke.com/general/21141_21141.html
 

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"I want people to be mentally prepared for what's coming our way.

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Charlie McGrath of Wide Awake News gives us the real deal on where our economy was at the height of the bubble in 2006 compared to today:
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I want to bring you some statistics that are negative by nature. It's not because I'm negative or I want to say bad things about my country. It's that I want people to be, at least if nothing else, mentally prepared for what's coming our way.


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The following are some highlight stats provided by Charlie:
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It's clear that we are nowhere near a recovery and that, in fact, things have gotten worse.


The U.S. is now in a Catch 22, with no easy way out. All options lead to more misery.

the link contains a video ofCharlie McGrathdetailing the big picture, as well.
 

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The tribulation is on the horizon. The PTB are preparing the grand entrance by their (Biblically prophesized) master...the antichrist (& his 1-world dystopia).
 

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Helicopter Ben Bernanke may be willing to print more dollars in addition to the latest round of QE.

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Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke this
Sunday will make his second appearance on 60 Minutes, defending the
central bank's controversial $600 billion bond buying program.

And he doesn't rule out the possibility that more could be on the way.

"He
explains why the Fed announced its intention to buy $600 billion in
Treasury securities, defending against charges the move will lead to
inflation and not ruling out the purchase of more," CBS said Friday.

The Fed's latest move would mark the central bank's second round of quantitative easing
since the financial crisis in the fall of 2008. Nicknamed QE2, it is
meant to stimulate the economy by keeping interest rates low and
encouraging consumers to spend more and businesses to create jobs.

The plan has drawn a major backlash from both conservatives
and global leaders. Critics argue the policy of low interest rates will
artificially devalue the dollar, and feed long-term inflation and asset
bubbles.

Bernanke last appeared on 60 Minutes in March 2009 to
defend the government's actions during the financial crisis, including
its decision to let Wall Street firm Lehman Brothers fail while at the
same time stepping in to save insurance giant American International
Group.

The broadcast is expected to appear on CBS at 7 p.m. ET this Sunday.

Investors
have been mulling over the prospects for QE2 since August, when
Bernanke said at the Fed's annual retreat in Jackson Hole, Wyo., that
the central bank would consider all manner of tools to support the
economy.

But many observers believe much more than $600 billion
will be needed. Economists at Goldman Sachs said this fall they believe
that to truly fill the private sector demand shortfall, the Fed would
need to buy some $4 trillion in securities.

Goldman acknowledged
that the political unpopularity of QE2 would make an asset-purchase
program of that size unlikely. At the time, economist Jan Hatzius said
he believed it was likely the Fed would purchase half that much, or
about $2 trillion worth.

But since then the backlash against QE2
has only intensified and U.S. economic data have turned slightly more
positive, so Goldman has recently backed away from even that forecast.
Hatzius said this week that signs of a more robust U.S. recovery could
limit Fed purchases to $1 trillion.

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<h1>Jim Rogers: 'US government's inflation data is a sham'</font></h1>

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Rogers, who shot to fame after co-founding Quantum Fund with George Soros,
argued the Federal Reserve uses information that relies too heavily on
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"I expect interest rates in the US to go much, much, much higher over the next
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energy costs, is the Fed's preferred measure of inflation. This was flat in
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"Everybody in this room knows prices are going up for everything,"
Rogers told the Reuters Summit.




The investor remains bullish on commodities given the debt crises facing many
country across the world.




"If the world economy gets better, commodities are going to go up in price
because there are shortages. If the world economy does not get better, you
should own commodities, because [central banks] are going to print more
money," he said. "Real assets are the way to protect yourself.




Rogers also predicted that the price of gold will rise eventually above $2,000
an ounce. The price of spot gold hit a record high of $1,430.95 an ounce
before falling back to close on Tuesday at $1,409.35.




Attacking the EU's "bad economics" for "corroding the value of
the euro", Rogers painted a stark picture of the single currency's future. "I
don't expect the euro to be around within 10 to 15 years," he said, adding
that the Chinese yuan is the most attractive currency today.


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I don't know who they think qualifies for this mini golden handshake. Maybe if you don't bathe or don't put in your false teeth you will run into one of the secret donors.....Anonymous 'Secret Santas' hand out hundred-dollar handshakes to those in need in NC

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CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) â€" "Secret Santas" are roaming the streets of North Carolina, handing out $100 handshakes.

The Charlotte Observer reported that crew of donors, who insist on anonymity, handed out the C-notes Friday to anyone who looked like they could use it.

Felicia Adams was handed $100 while she was working at a Goodwill outlet store. She said the money will help her get to New York to visit her father who, is dying of cancer.

The donors take thousands of dollars from their own bank accounts to hand out. It's the fourth year the random acts of kindness have been done in Charlotte. This year, a half-dozen volunteers from the Charlotte police and fire departments tagged along, guiding the group through the city and
 

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Well Uncle Bernie's son killed himself. This story is taking on a King Lear aspect to it. I'm surprised Hollyweird hasn't decided to get Dustin Hoffman to play Bernie but who will play Marcellus the Black drug dealer who beat Bernie in lock up....
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NEW YORK, Dec. 11 (UPI) -- Mark Madoff, son of swindler Bernard Madoff, hanged himself in his New York apartment Saturday, the second anniversary of his father's arrest, police said.

Deputy Police Commissioner Paul Browne told The New York Times Madoff's father-in-law found the body hanging by its neck with a dog leash from a pipe in the living room ceiling.

"Mark Madoff took his own life today," his lawyer Martin Flumenbaum said. "This is a terrible and unnecessary tragedy."

A city official told the Times the first call, for a "possible suicide," came via 911 at 7:27 a.m. The call came from Madoff's home at 158 Mercer St. in Soho, in Lower Manhattan.

Browne said Madoff's "2-year-old son was asleep in an adjoining bedroom. Apparently, the son-in-law had indicated that someone should check on the child; had made some notification to the wife that he should check on the child."

Madoff was chatting via computer with his wife Stephanie, who was out of town, before taking his own life, sources told the New York Daily News. She became worried and called her father to check on him.

Mark Madoff and his brother, Andrew, were never charged criminally in their father's fraud but were being sued for millions by trustees for the victims.Edited by: white is right
 

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Here is some good news on the horizon in regards to the Federal Reserve. Rep. Ron Paul is going to chair the subcommittee that oversees this horrific institution, and is already hard at work to reign it in:


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Since the announcement last week that I will chair the congressional subcommittee that oversees the Federal Reserve, the media response has been overwhelming. The groundswell of opposition to Fed actions among ordinary citizens is reflected not only in the rhetoric coming out of Capitol Hill, but also in the tremendous interest shown by the financial press. The demand for transparency is growing, whether the political and financial establishment likes it or not. The Fed is losing its vaunted status as an institution that somehow is above politics and public scrutiny. Fed transparency will be the cornerstone of my efforts as subcommittee chairman.


Thanks to public pressure earlier this year, Congress did pass legislation that requires the Fed to disclose some information about its bailout of select industries and companies following the 2008 financial crisis. So two weeks ago the Fed released data concerning more than $3 trillion of assistance it offered to banks through its bailout facilities. After reviewing this data, however, we are left with many more questions about the Fed's "lending"Â￾.

In the "Term Securities Lending Facility"Â￾, the Fed was supposed to have loaned against AAA-rated securities-- yet over half of the collateral put up by banks to obtain loans had no listed credit rating. Should we assume that the Fed accepted absolute junk rated securities as collateral for loans? Presumably these securities were so bad that they wouldn't even publicize their credit rating. So why should our central bank, backed up by your taxes, accept such collateral?

On another note, of the $1.25 trillion purchased under the Fed's "Mortgage-Backed Securities Purchase Program,"Â￾ only $877 billion in purchases have been publicized. What happened to the remaining $400 billion?

These kinds of limited disclosures by the Fed only underscore the need for a full and complete audit of the Fed's financial books. This audit should be done by an independent third party, in the same manner that public companies are audited. The Fed should make public its balance sheet, income statement, and perhaps most importantly its cash flow statement. It also should publicize the notes explaining those financial statements.


We seem to forget sometimes that Congress created the Fed-- it is a government-created banking monopoly, and its top decision-makers are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. If the Fed does not perform satisfactorily in the eyes of these politicians and their constituents, the Chairman and Governors may not be re-nominated.


In theory, Congress could even repeal the Federal Reserve Act altogether since it has the authority to do so. Obviously Congress is within its authority to audit an organization it created by statute, and it is time to assume that responsibility.

With 320 Members of Congress cosponsoring my legislation to fully audit the Fed in the 111th Congress, my hope is that we can build on our broad bipartisan coalition in 2011 and continue the push for greater Fed transparency going forward.
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FootballDad,

Do you think Ron Paul can do any good in his new post?

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It remains to be seen. As the most outspoken critic of the Fed, it's amazing that the PTB have allowed him, of all people, to head that subcommittee.
 

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The socialist/marxist/liberal dems just pulled pulled the outrageous Omibust 1.2 trillion spending bill!!!! Finally, adults are forcing sanity. The threat of the Repubs reading the bill, must have be the reason.
 

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An article entitled "Children Asking Santa for Necessities this Year"

The number of Americans on food stamps has shot up to a record high 43 million, nearly one in seven Americans. The number of banks to fail this year is 156 with one week left to go (only 140 banks failed last year). If the liberals think the economy is recovering, they might want to explain why unemployment continues to go up, the number of bank failures is rising, the number of people on food stamps is at a record high and why so many children are asking for clothes this Christmas instead of toys.

http://www.davidduke.com/general/children-asking-santa-for-necessities-this-year_21786.html
 

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to describe what is coming with the U.S. dollar, author Mac Slavo uses words like "catastrophic collapse" and "economic apocalypse." U.S. Senator Tom Coburn phrases it as "apocalyptic pain."

with the numbers being shared in this analytical article, it appears that neither man is speaking with any hyperbole.

i won't post the article, as it's lengthy. but it illustrates a future for American economic policy that, if things hold true as expected... well ... the word that comes to mind is doom.
 

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Ex Shell president sees $5 gas in 2012
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The former president of Shell Oil, John Hofmeister, says Americans could be paying $5 for a gallon of gasoline by 2012.


In an interview with Platt's Energy Week television, Hofmeister predicted gasoline prices will spike as the global demand for oil increases.
"I'm predicting actually the worst outcome over the next two years which takes us to 2012 with higher gasoline prices," he said.




Gulf CEO: Oil May Near $150 a Barrel by Summer
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Crude oil's price could soar to nearly $150 a barrel by summer, Joe Petrowski, chief executive of Gulf Oil and the Cumberland Gulf Group, told CNBC Thursday.

"If we're not producing it domestically, because we're trying to achieve administratively what we don't seem to want to pass legislatively, and our imports are going down and demand's up, it sets the stages," he told CNBC.

"I think we'll be at $100 in the first quarter," he added, "and there's one-in-four chance we'll take out the $147 highs before Memorial Day."Â￾
 

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GridironGrits said:
I dont think there will be a meltdown. The economy is improving.

How do you figure? Unemployment has actually gone up to 9.8 percent. Count all those that only have part time work and want full time jobs and unemployment is much, much higher. They are saying gas may go up to 5 bucks a gallon in the near future. Nothing is getting better.
 

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Welcome GridIronGrits and happy new year,

I have to agree with WA33. I don't see improvement around here. Early this coming year, 1,400 or so people are going to get laid off from a distributer of groceries. Borders books is going under this year. and there'll be more layoffs of municipal, and state workers here in N.J.

Antoher point around here is they're doing a bit of commercial construction around me with no tenents and all sorts of open commercial space available already. What's that about?

I don't know. I hope you're right, but from what I'm observing, things aren't getting better. At best, they're stagnant.

Everybody I know has at least one member of their family out of work, some of them for some time now.

Tom Iron...
 

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NJ has serious problems on the way. Property taxes are completely out of control in the state already. Paterson was threatening to raise taxes almost 3,000 dollars on every home in the city to get the deficit under control. Instead they ended up laying off hundreds of police officers. They are claiming unemployment claims have gone down but that's only due to seasonal hiring. Watch next month.
 

Quiet Speed

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I read somewhere that China is playing chess while the US is playing checkers. China did have to raised its interest rates today due to inflation which is partly the reason gold and silver are down, that's the explanation anyway. This writing from a newsletter is interesting:

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While
China is taking a greater portion of our financial attention on a daily
basis, it seems to us that the sheer size of China and its continued
growth has not been factored into the world economic perspective, even
now. </span></span></span>
<b style="">One
of the consequences of profit driven capitalism in the past was the
relocation of manufacturing from high-cost, developed countries to the
lower cost country of China. </span>U.S. corporations
that did that, have enjoyed
better-than-ever profits, but in the process have educated new, Chinese,
lower-priced competition that will overwhelm us all in the future. </span>The enrichment of China and its arrival on the world scene will surpass the U.S. </span>as the largest world economy by 2020 at the latest [we would not be surprised if this happened even before 2015]. </span>This will trigger a financial tsunami that will change they way we think and invest.</span>[/b] </span></span></span></span><b style=""> </span>[/b]The Internationalization of the Yuan â€" Progress report</span>
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The Chinese government has allowed the Bank of China Ltd's to allow trading in Yuan for the first time in the U.S. </span>Individuals
can convert up to $4,000 a day without limit for now, on the amount of
money businesses can convert, so long as they're engaged in
international trading, the report said. </span>We at the Gold Forecaster have been following the steady progress of the internationalization of the Yuan since it began. </span>The
goal that seems likely to be reached sooner rather than later will be
for the Yuan to be a competing global reserve currency. </span>Effective
immediately, Bank of China's U.S. individual customers can now open a
Yuan denominated savings account with a $500 equivalent minimum balance.
</span>The bank also offers certificates of deposit in 6-month and 1-year terms with a minimum of $1,000 equivalent. </span>Now watch the rush. </span>We don't believe that those who do it hoping to experience an appreciation of the Yuan will see that. </span>But such investor objectives will create a huge demand for the Yuan.</span> </span>Account Opening procedures</font></span>
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interested subscribers, the account opening procedures are simple--
there is an application form, a W-9 tax form, and a signature card.
Applicants are also required to provide a government-issued ID and one
other form of identification such as a credit card, employee ID card,
insurance card, etc. </span>You do have to show up in person. </span>Businesses
can also open Yuan accounts with a $5,000 equivalent minimum and
requisite entity paperwork like Articles of Organization, etc. </span>At
this time, Yuan cash cannot be withdrawn from the account. The bank
does provide currency exchange services between dollars and Yuan at its
Chinatown branch in New York; current limits are up to $4,000 per day,
and $20,000 per year.</span> </span>
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The Yuan replacing the U.S.
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</span>China is doing this as part of a long-term plan to make the Yuan become a fully-convertible competing global reserve currency. </span>Many
sovereign nations are holding Yuan in reserve instead of just dollars,
and Chinese cross border settlement is now frequently being transacted
in Yuan instead of dollars because of new clearing and settlement
platforms that have been established in Hong Kong. </span>After Yuan exchanges are established in the U.S., Europe will be next. </span>Then as we forecast, China will price its goods in the Yuan and then pay in Yuan.</span> </span>Please note that each seven Yuan purchased will replace one U.S. dollar on the international foreign exchange. </span>Each contract priced in Yuan will replace the previous use of the U.S. dollar in those transactions. </span>We believe the change will be rapid now. </span>The belief that the Yuan should be stronger than the dollar and will be some day will accelerate the move to the Yuan. </span>The potential switch will look more like a tsunami than a flowing tide. </span>The concept that this will take a decade is far off the mark. </span>China must have prepared itself for this day very carefully and prepared its
banking system for this flood to swamp the world's foreign exchanges. </span>Do not be surprised if by next year we will all be familiar with the Yuan in our own lives.</span> </span>Taking
this further, the impact on the U.S. dollar exchange rate has to be
bad, for the dollars no longer used in international trade will come
home and add to the home money supply. </span>Maybe there will be no need for QE3? </span>As
to the growth of the Chinese foreign exchange reserves, the more the
Yuan replaces the dollar, the slower the flow of dollars into Chinese
reserves. </span>It won't be a huge step for European trade to by-pass the dollar either. </span>We
believe that the attrition, the real reduction of the role of the U.S.
dollar as the sole global reserve currency has now begun! </span>Brace yourself for a major set of changes in the global economy going forward.</span> </span>
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There
are many ramifications that we have not covered here, because of lack
of space, but will cover in our newsletters for subscribers in future
issues.</span>
</span>Chinese gold demand</span>We have previously discussed the way Chinese gold demand will impact the gold price via imported gold. </span>Even we have underestimated that demand. </span>Right now, the demand for physical gold in China is surging. </span>The premiums for gold bars for spot delivery jumped to their highest levels in two years there. </span>Both nations are experiencing food inflation in particular, as
well as the rising levels of general inflation. </span>If
this is a consequence of urbanization taking productivity away from the
countryside, we expect the government will rectify that quickly without
using monetary means. </span></span>But
overall gold demand is not a response to inflationary pressures there,
but the rising capacity as well as rising numbers of middle class
investors turning to one of the two prime investment mediums, bank
deposits or gold. </span>We expect this to rise rapidly in this country of 1.4 billion people who are rapidly being enriched.</span></span>
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things ... well ... they aren't looking good for the ol' U.S. of A.

i won't post the entire text of the following links, because they are a bit lengthy. but if you want to see just exactly how bad we're in it, you only have to click and read. it ain't pretty ...

20 Shocking new economic records that were set in 2010.

Why the world is financially doomed in 4 simple charts.

and this one isn't all economy-related, but it points out the negative direction we're headed whilst the mainstream media turns a blind eye. 25 Hard Questions that you will not see asked on CNN, MSNBC, or Fox News.

'tis past time to buy beans, band-aids, and bullets. and if you've anything left over, silver. sadly, being broke sucks ... now more than ever.
 

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I'm glad to see #13 on that first list you linked, JC. I was thinking about that the other day because all the FedGov hacks assured us at the end of '09 that fewer banks would fail in '10. Well they were totally wrong on that one.
 
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