Christophe Lemaitre "White Lightning" 9.92 and 19.80!

[ZELLGADISS]

RCSMAN i think that you dream so much hehe.
I see long long time for that Lemaitre can to get 9.90 basic

He almost never ran sub10 basic, only 1 time in his life 9.99 basic in semifinal barcelona 2010, his other times 10 basic or worst.

Minimum 2 years for 9.90 basic time.

 

[albinosprint]

just got home to check out the results and I'n very happy with his performance. mark my words, he will set a new PR at the olympics!

 

[RCSMAN]

RCSMAN i think that you dream so much hehe.
I see long long time for that Lemaitre can to get 9.90 basic

He almost never ran sub10 basic, only 1 time in his life 9.99 basic in semifinal barcelona 2010, his other times 10 basic or worst.

Minimum 2 years for 9.90 basic time.

I do not dream!

The problem with you it is because you look at figures but you do not understand them!

Last year, Christophe would have was able to run sub 9.90 in conditions "legal".
For example, 6th in June, 2011 in Montreuil, Christophe has ran 9.96 (0.9m/) on a bad track and a cold weather (15°c).
This time of 9.96 with of better conditions would have been able to be better, maybe 9.90!

In this race, yohan blake had won in 9.95 while a few weeks earlier he had ran 9.80 there jamaique with of very good conditions (2.1m/), and temperatures warm.
You can see the big differences of performances according to if the conditions are good or bad.
In 2011, Sometimes Christophe did very good start but the last 50 meters were not very well, sometimes Christophe did a very bad start but the last 50 meters were well, he henceforth has to try to be good in 2 parts in the same race.

At the moment Christophe has never got it but that does not mean that he cannot get it.
Christophe never ran his truth value!
In 2011, Christophe could run sub 9.90!
In 2012, Christophe can run sub 9.85!
You confuse performance and capacity!
Christophe has, at the moment, no reference race. WAIT, you will know surprised with his time when he will get it!

 

[ZELLGADISS]

RCSMAN, sorry but i continue thinking that you dream.
Ideal conditions in weather,time,time reaction, feelings in the race, very big shape,.... is very hard that ALL is in the same race, so your feelings in my opinion are very optimistic.

The reality is that when Lemaitre got 9.92 was with maximum legal wind 2.0 and with medium wind he never got better that 9.95

And in this moment i see that hardly he will improve his PB in 100 this year and probably the next year very few in 100m.

In 200m, i see him with a lot of more margin

 

[Keyser Soze]

Interesting post-race interview:

http://www.sports.fr/cmc/athletisme...phe-lemaitre-a-cru-perdre-le-100m_464461.html

in french

 

[RCSMAN]

RCSMAN, sorry but i continue thinking that you dream.
Ideal conditions in weather,time,time reaction, feelings in the race, very big shape,.... is very hard that ALL is in the same race, so your feelings in my opinion are very optimistic.

The reality is that when Lemaitre got 9.92 was with maximum legal wind 2.0 and with medium wind he never got better that 9.95

And in this moment i see that hardly he will improve his PB in 100 this year and probably the next year very few in 100m.

In 200m, i see him with a lot of more margin

Idéal conditions ?

I do not have say "IDEAL CONDITIONS", I said "GOOD CONDITIONS".
What's " GOOD CONDITIONS "? For me, it's 23°c, wind +1m/s, Christophe with a good start, is it impossible?
For you: YES
For me: NO.

You said "The reality is that when Lemaitre got 9.92 was with maximum legal wind 2.0 and with medium wind he never got better that 9.95"

You do not understand that the race of Montreuil in 2011: time: 9.95 ( +0.9m/s ) with 15°c and bad track = easily sub 10.00 BASIC TIME with good conditions

You do not understand that the race of this evening 10.09 with cold, rain and wind is better that the race where Christophe runs 9.92 with warm temperature, no rain and wind (+2m/s)!

You do not understand it, it is a pity for you!

 

[mastermulti]

You do not understand that the race of this evening 10.09 with cold, rain and wind is better that the race where Christophe runs 9.92 with warm temperature, no rain and wind (+2m/s)!

You do not understand it, it is a pity for you![/QUOTE]



Of course, all this means Jimmy Vicaut (10.12) ran the best race of the field to be within 1/2 metre of winning

 

[ZELLGADISS]

I understand all that you tell, but i repeat you, perhaps Lemaitre does not have these conditions that you tell.

With good weather and humidity, perhaps he has bad aceleration or bad reaction time, and the opposite, with perfect tecnique but bad weather.

For me are excuse, is is my opinion.

And if you go tell this one year and another year and another one, and Lemaitre never get to have very good conditions plus perfect race running(reaction time, aceleration, drive phase,..) for me only will be EXCUSES.

And yes for me you are very optimistic if you think that Lemaitre go run 9.90 basic time this year or the next one.

 

[jacknyc]

A good race for Lemaitre, but at the same time a bit disappointing because we don't see any improvement from last year, and his competition is getting closer.
A guy on T&FN posted the following, which succinctly sums up Lemaitre:
"LeMaitre has such an amazing top end, but he just refuses to hit the weight room and is so weak in the drive phase. Until he does that he's never going to battle with the big boys."

 

[mastermulti]

A good race for Lemaitre, but at the same time a bit disappointing because we don't see any improvement from last year, and his competition is getting closer.
A guy on T&FN posted the following, which succinctly sums up Lemaitre:
"LeMaitre has such an amazing top end, but he just refuses to hit the weight room and is so weak in the drive phase. Until he does that he's never going to battle with the big boys."

I'm with you (and that other guy). His progression will stall until he can get the strength to drive.
Whether holding him off doing this in order to let his rather immature body adjust is a good or bad move I don't know. Maybe time will tell and he'll have a longer career because of it.
His top speed is there and I'd think he has little room to improve in this area but he needs to become a sub 6.50 60 meter man to challenge the elite.

 

[LoLy]

I've been wondering why the hell Rytis Sakalauskas of Lithuania didin't get out of the starting bock. I've never seen this in my life. 3 starts= 3 time he doesn't move.
Lemaitre said it disturbed him because, this guy was just on his left.
It really looked like if the guy was doing it on purpose.
I don't know what to think about it.
ANyone has an idea?

 

[white lightning]

Some people are saying it might be because he was hurt after his bad fall yesterday. No one knows for sure as there has been no official explanation. The sad thing is that is was a rare if not first occurence where a male a female Lithuanian Sprinter both made the finals of the European Championships in the 100 meters. Grincate won the bronze in the womens 100 final and Rytis S. was more than capable of winning the silver or bronze. Hell if he had a perfect race, who knows, maybe even the gold medal. It is a really sad day and I just hope it doesn't effect him the rest of his career. He seems like he is even more shy than Lemaitre and that any little thing would bother him. So much talent though. I hope he can turn it around before London. I too have never in my life seen anything like what happened!

 

[Keyser Soze]

All the race but in russian:


[video=youtube;__xYhVml-PI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__xYhVml-PI[/video]


One of the comment in the video (after translation) states that the stadium judges knew that Sakalauskas was injured but he runned anyway so that he won't get disqualified for the Olympics...didn't know this rule existed...

 

[Keyser Soze]

This is Christophe's first try of the race (at 1.5sec ,stopped by yellow card sakalauskas)



This is the 3rd attempt at the same second (1.5 sec) .


it is obvious that in the 1st race CL is a little ahead or matching Vicaut, imho.
In the 3rd race Vicaut made a better start than Christophe. Ndure improved the most between 1st and 3rd try...

 

[RAUL]

it's second final in row when collio make final but dont run in it.)

 

[white is right]

Anybody have a clue on why Lemaitre didn't enter the 200 meters? It's strange considering his team has been stating publicly that they might skip the 100 in London....

 

[mastermulti]

Anybody have a clue on why Lemaitre didn't enter the 200 meters? It's strange considering his team has been stating publicly that they might skip the 100 in London....

You know? given his obvious nervousness before the 100 and not entering the 200 I wouldn't be surprised at all if there's more to the story.
Maybe he's fighting off illness or has an injury niggle - his confidence doesn't look sky high to me.
Maybe it's simply expectations, both his and those of others, that is getting him down a little.

Will wait to see what if anything unfolds

 

[ZELLGADISS]

Lemaitre did not run 200 in european championship because he told that the bend(curve)was very tight, and like he has big stride is very hard for him.

By the other hand, Dix finally is injuried and he did not run 200 in trials, so the main rivals for Lemaitre in 200 are very very few now.

Probably Bolt and Blake are far of everybody ,but after Lemaitre will fight for bronze medal with Spearmon,Ashmeade,Ndure and perhaps Martina.

Really Lemaitre has big options for medal in London in 200 :icon_grin:

 

[foobar75]

Lemaitre did not run 200 in european championship because he told that the bend(curve)was very tight, and like he has big stride is very hard for him.

By the other hand, Dix finally is injuried and he did not run 200 in trials, so the main rivals for Lemaitre in 200 are very very few now.

Probably Bolt and Blake are far of everybody ,but after Lemaitre will fight for bronze medal with Spearmon,Ashmeade,Ndure and perhaps Martina.

Really Lemaitre has big options for medal in London in 200 :icon_grin:

They just ran the 100m final in the Jamaican national championships:

1. Blake - 9.75
2. Bolt - 9.86
3. Powell - 9.88

So, Bolt gets beat and quite badly. If you watch the video, Powell gets a very good start, Blake OK, Bolt terrible. Bolt and Blake then start to catch-up, Powell fades, and Blake passes Bolt and easily wins. We also hear Powell may not be 100%. We already know Gay is not 100%.

What does this all mean? It means anything is possible in London. Anything can happen. Nothing is decided, and maybe we're wrong to think Bolt is so far ahead of everyone else. That is why, Christophe needs to run the 100 and he needs to train with a mentality that he can beat these guys. Who knows, maybe a low 9.9x will be enough to get a medal, why not Christophe?

This could be a great opportunity for him at the biggest stage. Some of us here think he has no chance, but I refuse to believe it. Zellgadiss, can you say for sure Christophe has no chance in the 100? What if the Americans and Jamaicans don't run like we expect them? And then we'll wonder, what is Christophe had run? So, I believe he should do both the 100 & 200.

 

[jacknyc]

I got no problem with Lemaitre running the 100m in London.
Anything can happen.
But given his form this year, I'm not even sure he would make the final.
You never know unless you try.... but his odds are much better in the 200m.

 

[white is right]

They just ran the 100m final in the Jamaican national championships:

1. Blake - 9.75
2. Bolt - 9.86
3. Powell - 9.88

So, Bolt gets beat and quite badly. If you watch the video, Powell gets a very good start, Blake OK, Bolt terrible. Bolt and Blake then start to catch-up, Powell fades, and Blake passes Bolt and easily wins. We also hear Powell may not be 100%. We already know Gay is not 100%.

What does this all mean? It means anything is possible in London. Anything can happen. Nothing is decided, and maybe we're wrong to think Bolt is so far ahead of everyone else. That is why, Christophe needs to run the 100 and he needs to train with a mentality that he can beat these guys. Who knows, maybe a low 9.9x will be enough to get a medal, why not Christophe?

This could be a great opportunity for him at the biggest stage. Some of us here think he has no chance, but I refuse to believe it. Zellgadiss, can you say for sure Christophe has no chance in the 100? What if the Americans and Jamaicans don't run like we expect them? And then we'll wonder, what is Christophe had run? So, I believe he should do both the 100 & 200.

I can see Powell not making it out of a semi final with a groin strain. He was hobbling with medical attendants during this meet. As someone who has had groin strains over the years they tend to linger and never fully heal unless you get surgery. Also Gay is another guy who being held together by chewing gum. You never know what is going to happen in London. I see a few favourites losing out in the 3 semi final format..

 

[foobar75]

We all agree that his best chance to medal is in the 200m. There's no dispute about that.

However, what happenned tonight in Jamaica, and the health of some of the top guys shows that anything is possible in the 100m. You cannot assume everyone will run the perfect race in London, stuff happens. The 100m is the premier event, the Olympics are the biggest stage. It will be a priceless experience if Christophe could make the final in front of the whole world on what could be an incredible race.

 

[white lightning]

I have said it all along and I will say it again. Run both events. I'm with you foobar.

You only have so many chances in life. Carpe Diem. Seize the day. Seize this moment in time and it will be remembered forever!

 

[elispeedster]

I have said it all along and I will say it again. Run both events. I'm with you foobar.

You only have so many chances in life. Carpe Diem. Seize the day. Seize this moment in time and it will be remembered forever!

He should run both, but his coach and handlers have no confidence in him. They wouldn't let him run the 200 in Helsinki because of the tight turn? He is a 19.80 sprinter! Spearmint, bolt, and ohers have run sub 20 on that track.

Guys, Christophe will be so lucky to make the finals in the 100 or 200. BlAke bolt spearmon asmeade will take the 200 from him because Christophe has not progressed from last year, say what you will Rcsman, but Christophe needs to get rid of all his coaches, management who feed him negative thoughts and baby him. I hope I am proven wrong and will be the first to eat my words, but I dont see any progress happening soon.

 

[trackster]

Once again, I find myself agreeing with Elispeedster. Anyone who thinks that Christophe has a chance this year in the 100 is going to be sadly disappointed.

Christophe needed to improve dramatically this year to compete with the Jamaicans. Dramatically. But he simply didn't. He regressed badly. He has consistently run times closer to the women's world record than to the men's. Think about that.

Race after race, people make excuses for him. It's wet. It's cold. The wind isn't pushing him like a tornado. Whatever. Enough excuses. He's run a lot of races. The times all suck.

Go back and watch all of the videos. In every race he runs, no matter how pathetically weak the "competition" (and, let's face it, Christophe's competition even in the French and European championships couldn't compete at an elite Jamaican high school meet), Christophe always finds himself behind, working like mad just to catch up and barely win at the end. Do you think Blake, Gatlin, Bolt, etc, would have to give 100% just to beat those bums? Blake could jog from start to finish, stop and sign autographs, wave to the crowd, and still win comfortably.

I can only go back to what I said at the beginning of Christophe's nightmarish season: He is squandering his talent working with a coach who makes him practice with tiny little cones all over the track, constantly worrying about where every foot strikes the ground. Maybe if there is a French version of "Dancing with the Stars," Carraz's proteges will win. But they aren't winning any Olympic medals.