Christophe Lemaitre "White Lightning" 9.92 and 19.80! -- Part Two

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elitespeedster, hard to tell from your comments as to whether you are saying I know nothing about sprints or are you saying anyone who thinks Carraz is a good coach knows nothing about sprints?
 

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Ca veut dire qu'il fait son deuxième 100 en 9.64, plutôt bon signe avec -0.5, j'avais peur qu'il aie perdu ça deuxième partie depuis sa blessure de 2013 mais ça prouve que non, il ne demande qu'à être en forme.


Perso je n'attends pas de lui 9.6 mais mieux que ça
en 2011, il fait 9.6 à Daegu en finale, alors qu'il ne maitrisais pas le virage et que son endurance n'était pas bonne.

Un grand lemaitre peut être en - de 9.50, est ce que ce sera pour cette année, on verra
 

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9.54 pour la finale de Daegu. Son virage était très bien maitrisé 10.26. C'est surtout ça sorti de virage qui ne va pas.
 

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9.54 pour la finale de Daegu. Son virage était très bien maitrisé 10.26. C'est surtout ça sorti de virage qui ne va pas.

oui il perd toute sa vitesse selon ses dires à la sortie du virage.

9.54 ou 9.56 selon les sources, si on prends en compte le vent dans le dos dans la ligne droite (+0.8) on s'approche de 9.6, il doit pouvoir faire mieux, un mec comme weir est très fort à ce niveau
 

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Moi ça ne me choque pas Weir doit avoir le même 2ème 100 que Lemaitre. Après après les mecs comme Blake, Bolt et Gatlin c'est surtout leur première partie de course et la fluidité dans la transition du deuxième 100 qui fait qu'ils vont ausssi vite dans leur deuxième 100. Après oui la sortie de virage, Lemaitre ne la maitrise pas alors qu'un Vicaut à une sortie de virage beaucoup plus fluide.
 
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No.

They're not posting in a foreign language; they're posting in their language. Google translate can tell you what they're saying.
 

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elitespeedster, hard to tell from your comments as to whether you are saying I know nothing about sprints or are you saying anyone who thinks Carraz is a good coach knows nothing about sprints?
lol! You haven't been here long enough to understand what I am talking about, but that statement was not directed at you at all..
 

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Moi ça ne me choque pas Weir doit avoir le même 2ème 100 que Lemaitre. Après après les mecs comme Blake, Bolt et Gatlin c'est surtout leur première partie de course et la fluidité dans la transition du deuxième 100 qui fait qu'ils vont ausssi vite dans leur deuxième 100. Après oui la sortie de virage, Lemaitre ne la maitrise pas alors qu'un Vicaut à une sortie de virage beaucoup plus fluide.


Je viens de regarder la finale de moscou, je voyais weir faire mieux mais non, il est en 9.55, donc il est au même niveau que le lemaitre de la grande époque quand aux autres BOLT, BLAKE, Gatlin, je suis évidement pleinement d'accord avec tes propos
 

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Is there any chance we can get an administrator to ban posters that purposely post in a foreign language? Its really annoying. Gracias.
If you want a translate and a little summary: We said: We think Lemaitre can run close to 20.00 because, in his 20.27 in Rome, his first 100 was one of his best (10.36), we think he can really improve his second 100 because in Beijing last year where he wasn't in shape he ran 9.76, in 2014 in Monaco he ran 9.64 his second 100. So it's likely he run faster than 2 last years. A 10.36 likely improve with a 9.6 (even he must run faster) in the second 100. Lemaitre must run close to 20.00 soon. And we say his problem in the 200, it's his transition between 100 and 200 (corner exit). :)
 

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As I said before, I don't think Lemaitre will do well in this race. I predict he will finish 2nd to last.
As usual, he will have a poor start and be in last place at 20 meters.
At around 60 meters, he will start to turn on his jets and may be able to catch one of two guys just before the finish line.
Of course, I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but this is the pattern we've seen in all his 100m races for years.
There's no really reason to expect anything different this time.
 

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If you want a translate and a little summary: We said: We think Lemaitre can run close to 20.00 because, in his 20.27 in Rome, his first 100 was one of his best (10.36), we think he can really improve his second 100 because in Beijing last year where he wasn't in shape he ran 9.76, in 2014 in Monaco he ran 9.64 his second 100. So it's likely he run faster than 2 last years. A 10.36 likely improve with a 9.6 (even he must run faster) in the second 100. Lemaitre must run close to 20.00 soon. And we say his problem in the 200, it's his transition between 100 and 200 (corner exit). :)
Lemaitre's problem is he is stuck with a coach who does not know how to train an elite talent and tells him to focus on third place. Lemaitre is not confident and needs a change. When things don't work out AFTER 5 YEARS, change is good. It may or may not work, but you have to at least Try. If Carraz cared for Lemaitre success he would of let him go after the London games.
 

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Lemaitre's problem is he is stuck with a coach who does not know how to train an elite talent and tells him to focus on third place. Lemaitre is not confident and needs a change. When things don't work out AFTER 5 YEARS, change is good. It may or may not work, but you have to at least Try. If Carraz cared for Lemaitre success he would of let him go after the London games.
I think you have a really problem with Carraz, it's your Nightmare ? What he did when you was young, for you have his name in all your post ? We say, he can run close 20.00, it's not a question of Carraz. It's an analyse of lemaitre race.
 

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He has a problem with Carraz because he has decided that Lemaitre was a 19'6X / 9'6X sprinter so he gets stuck with his idea and bash Carraz because he own expectations are not reached.

He projects his personal issue on Lemaitre.

Now if you believe that Christophe has reached his full potential by running cleanly 19'80 and 9'92 which is an amazing achievement for someone that knows sprint, then you are happy and not frustated like he is.
 

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He has a problem with Carraz because he has decided that Lemaitre was a 19'6X / 9'6X sprinter so he gets stuck with his idea and bash Carraz because he own expectations are not reached.

He projects his personal issue on Lemaitre.

Now if you believe that Christophe has reached his full potential by running cleanly 19'80 and 9'92 which is an amazing achievement for someone that knows sprint, then you are happy and not frustated like he is.
19.6 should of been possible...9.8 at his best race, not 9.6...In almost every race in the last 5 years, Lemaitre always makes an excuse. Please, go back to all his interviews, always an excuse. When someone like Lemaitre runs a 9.9 and 19.8 and does it looking very awkward and with minimal power, the potential is there. Some of the posters here bring up Mat Shrivington how he almost ran sub 10 but then faded away and say the same about Lemaitre...the difference is Matt was highly developed, very strong and powerful but didn't have that top end speed, he reached his limit. Leamiatre was raw and weak and still managed sub 10 a few times as well as sub 20...It is clearly Caraz's old school thinking and training and lack of confidence that ruined Lemaitre, in additon to Lemaitre not wanting to leave his comfort zone.
 

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Actually, Kim Collins was leading the race and pulled up with a hamstring injury.
So without that injury, Lemaitre would have gotten 6th place, beating just 2 other no name sprinters.
Lemaitre is a hack.
There is no hope for him to return as a sub-10 sprinter ever again. His time has come and gone.
 

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I hate to admit it but jacknyc might be right. It's been downhll for quite a while no. I don't
see how anything will change that dramitcally in the next month or two. I hope I'm wrong
as I'm a huge fan of the kid.
 

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... It's bad.

webb is a strange sprinteur ! :)

19.85 then 20.62
9.94 then 10.18

pour moi la course de lemaitre est ni bonne ni mauvaise, il ne faut pas oublier les conditions (pluie et 12°c), et il fait 10.20 sans finish, car quand tu regardes le couloir 1 dans les 50 derniers mètres le mec fait même mieux que lemaitre c'est anormal. c'est sans aucun doute sa meilleur course de la saison, dans des bonnes conditions c'est un chrono qui vaut 10.12 - 10.13, il y'a beaucoup à gagner sur le finish donc wait and see

perso j'ai dis que j'espérais un chrono sous 10.20, c'est à peine ça mais bon...

ce qu'on peut lui reprocher c'est de courir à oslo un mois de juin alors qu'il court après les minimas, il y'avait de fortes chances qu'il y ait de mauvaises conditions et ça été le cas
 
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"His time has come and gone..."

There's always "keep hope alive" as this never-ending thread gives ample proof of. What will it take other than Lemaitre retiring eventually for us fan-boys to give it up and cease and desist.
And the REALLY important question is (drum roll please)...........
Who will have the last word in the endless feud. RCSMAN or Elispeedster???
Any one care to place a bet with bit coin?
 
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