Christophe Lemaitre "White Lightning" 9.92 and 19.80! -- Part Two

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RCSMAN: I have a question for you. Do you sprint, do you coach, are you an athlete? By the way not all American sprinters cheat, mainly it's the black athletes that do it. I know Hannah Cunliffe, her brother Sam and her Dad, she is white. Do you think she uses PED's? She has almost perfect sprinting form and recently ran 10.99 second to Jenna Prandini another white sprinter, do you think she uses PED's? She has run 10.92 and LJ over 6.50m, she has also run 22.19 200m, do you think she cheats? No one here doubts Lemitres amazing talent, we just question the situation he is in and the people who surround him.

FYI way back a few years ago I watched Hannah run as a 9 y old in California and she absolutely destroyed the blacks kids in the 100m at the #M Track Invitational and all they(blacks) could say and I heard it myself was "that white cracka girl sure is fast" "what? didn't know whities could run fast"

I have competed as a youth in the 100m,200m and 4x100m relay, as an adult sprinter I have competed in the 60m (indoors) 100m, 200m, lj, sp and javelin against some top competition I have also coached for over 15 years now and I am a level 3 certified sprints, hurdles, jump coach, how about you?

cheers....
 

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"I think if Lemaitre went to the States for training it would definitely help him alot."

Yes America is the place to be, the kingdom of track and field !
sorry but America is not the center of the world !

american method is what ? gatlin DOPED, montgomery DOPED, Tyson gay DOPED, Crawford DOPED, Mitchell DOPED, williams DOPED, lewis DOPED etc, etc, all sprinters ran sub 10

what is the efficacity of american method, i don't know because the best american sprinter are doped.

Not only AMERICA knows about track and field, France and the other countries also !

there are a lot of great athlete in France

100M : vicaut 9.86, Lemaitre 9.92, Christine arron 10.73, perec 10.96
200M : lemaitre 19.80, Perec 21.99
400M : Perec 48.25
400Mh : Perec 53.21
800M : Bosse : 1.42.53, patricia Djaté 1.56.53
1500M : Baala 3.28.98
pole vaul : Galfione, lavilennie etc, etc

this is the best french athletes in history, and DOPED = 0, that's difference with the american sprinter

I like america but it's stupid to think America is the place to be for track and field, it's false


i say that because, France like others countries knows about track and fields, not only AMERICA


"Supporting Lemaitre is a good thing but defending mediocrity with a multitude of excuses is not conducive to helping this superior sprinter."

the mediocrity is when a guy say "carraz is too old" it's not an argument, "carraz is not an elite trainer, his training is bad", do you live in aix les bains, no, so you don't know about his training, etc, etc THAT'S MEDIOCRITY, because is just stupid accusation and it's disrespectful.

My English is too bad to explain correctly what i would like to say.

Where is kilty, where is hari, where is gemili and the others promising sprinters, the elite sport it's not a video game, it's very difficult, more complicated what you say
American sports are more geared toward explosive power, American training for short distance sprinting is umathched. Lemaitres problem is power....Dafne Schippers talent for the 100/200 was discovered and began to develop when she started training in the USA. USA coaches will find Lemaitre's weakness something Carraz cant do...plus, you are a Xenophobe.
 

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RCSMAN: I have a question for you. Do you sprint, do you coach, are you an athlete? By the way not all American sprinters cheat, mainly it's the black athletes that do it. I know Hannah Cunliffe, her brother Sam and her Dad, she is white. Do you think she uses PED's? She has almost perfect sprinting form and recently ran 10.99 second to Jenna Prandini another white sprinter, do you think she uses PED's? She has run 10.92 and LJ over 6.50m, she has also run 22.19 200m, do you think she cheats? No one here doubts Lemitres amazing talent, we just question the situation he is in and the people who surround him.

FYI way back a few years ago I watched Hannah run as a 9 y old in California and she absolutely destroyed the blacks kids in the 100m at the #M Track Invitational and all they(blacks) could say and I heard it myself was "that white cracka girl sure is fast" "what? didn't know whities could run fast"

I have competed as a youth in the 100m,200m and 4x100m relay, as an adult sprinter I have competed in the 60m (indoors) 100m, 200m, lj, sp and javelin against some top competition I have also coached for over 15 years now and I am a level 3 certified sprints, hurdles, jump coach, how about you?

cheers....
Not all the Black sprinters cheat, stop it...Look at Teeters, he looks juiced to the gills. Lets be fair.
 

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RCSMAN: I have a question for you. Do you sprint, do you coach, are you an athlete? By the way not all American sprinters cheat, mainly it's the black athletes that do it. I know Hannah Cunliffe, her brother Sam and her Dad, she is white. Do you think she uses PED's? She has almost perfect sprinting form and recently ran 10.99 second to Jenna Prandini another white sprinter, do you think she uses PED's? She has run 10.92 and LJ over 6.50m, she has also run 22.19 200m, do you think she cheats? No one here doubts Lemitres amazing talent, we just question the situation he is in and the people who surround him.

FYI way back a few years ago I watched Hannah run as a 9 y old in California and she absolutely destroyed the blacks kids in the 100m at the #M Track Invitational and all they(blacks) could say and I heard it myself was "that white cracka girl sure is fast" "what? didn't know whities could run fast"

I have competed as a youth in the 100m,200m and 4x100m relay, as an adult sprinter I have competed in the 60m (indoors) 100m, 200m, lj, sp and javelin against some top competition I have also coached for over 15 years now and I am a level 3 certified sprints, hurdles, jump coach, how about you?

cheers....
 

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RCSMAN: I have a question for you. Do you sprint, do you coach, are you an athlete? By the way not all American sprinters cheat, mainly it's the black athletes that do it. I know Hannah Cunliffe, her brother Sam and her Dad, she is white. Do you think she uses PED's? She has almost perfect sprinting form and recently ran 10.99 second to Jenna Prandini another white sprinter, do you think she uses PED's? She has run 10.92 and LJ over 6.50m, she has also run 22.19 200m, do you think she cheats? No one here doubts Lemitres amazing talent, we just question the situation he is in and the people who surround him.

FYI way back a few years ago I watched Hannah run as a 9 y old in California and she absolutely destroyed the blacks kids in the 100m at the #M Track Invitational and all they(blacks) could say and I heard it myself was "that white cracka girl sure is fast" "what? didn't know whities could run fast"

I have competed as a youth in the 100m,200m and 4x100m relay, as an adult sprinter I have competed in the 60m (indoors) 100m, 200m, lj, sp and javelin against some top competition I have also coached for over 15 years now and I am a level 3 certified sprints, hurdles, jump coach, how about you?

cheers....


"Do you think she uses PED's"

??? I accuse no one without proof, i'm not like ellispeedster with carraz.

I spoke about american sprinter who was officially doped, i don't spoke about greene... etc :)
 

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so RCSMAN since you did not answer my question I would take it that you are not a track athlete or coach?

Elitespeedster I did not say all black athletes cheat, I said it is mainly black athletes that do it. Don't know much about Teeters I will have to check out his races.

Cheers..
 

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so RCSMAN since you did not answer my question I would take it that you are not a track athlete or coach?

Elitespeedster I did not say all black athletes cheat, I said it is mainly black athletes that do it. Don't know much about Teeters I will have to check out his races.

Cheers..
Whoaou, and what do you think about Russian dopage ?
 

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To be honest with you I feel strongly that anyone caught cheating be it an individual or a country should hang their heads in shame. Russia is paying for it's blatant doping. How many athletes are being fed PED's without their knowledge, no one really knows but I do know it is available if you want it. So if you cheat knowingly and are caught expect to be banned and stripped of any medals you may have won. In this matter Jamaica(many cheaters caught) should also be held to the same scrutiny as other countries....


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"Do you think she uses PED's"

??? I accuse no one without proof, i'm not like ellispeedster with carraz.

I spoke about american sprinter who was officially doped, i don't spoke about greene... etc :)
When did I say Carraz cheats? All I said and ever said is Carraz cannot take Lemaitre to the next level. he is not a elite trainer. He can train a guy like Perouxxe(forgot name) to personal bests of 10.3 but he cant take a Natural Freak like Lemaitre further than he already has. 5+ years of no improvement is enough evidence. Again, I hope Im proved wrong....
 
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Jimmy Vicaut ran 9.86 +1.8m/s in Montreuil !

I thought I was logged into Caste Football, not Le Equipe. Jimmy Vicaut is a half breed Frenchmen, so why so excited (!), my friend? As an American I might as well be cheering for just about any American Negro since they on average have 25% White blood. By the way what exactly is Jimmy's racial/ethnic mix? He's one odd looking guy.
 
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Let's be honest, this PED problem has been around since the dawn of recorded athletics history (Original Greek Olympians were concocting potions for advantage) and so long as humans strive for vain glory they will be mightily tempted to cheat.
I recall at the time of the Munich Olympics, or thereabouts, an anonymous poll was conducted that asked a large sample of Olympians if they would be willing to sacrifice a considerable (?) number of years off their lives if they could be guaranteed a Gold medal, and the response was overwhelmingly yes!
The Tour de France has been riddled with cheating since its beginning, and even with the multiple deaths (these days EPO) the cheating goes on.
There's plenty of shame to go around as cheating is an equal opportunity human trait for those seeking glory.
Looks like one of the YAM folk (others possibly?) may have been busted by the retroactive reinspection of 2008 Olympic samples. Nesta Carters A-sample from the 4 x 100 relay came up positive for some kind of "stimulant." The news is more concerned about Usain Bolt losing one of his Golds than the actual cheating, those cucky white reporters.
France has produced world class athletes and has some world-class coaching, so if Lemaitre chooses to change after the results of Rio, he should. That doesn't have to be a knock on Caraz, just a change of scenery which can quite often be the best recipe for stagnation.
 

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according to Wikipedia it lists Vicaut as having a French father and an Ivorian mother, it doesn't mention if the father is a white man.
 

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Lemaitre must do better than two last race.

this year :

10.39 (0.8) = 10.43 BASIC TIME
10.14 (1.9) = 10.24 BASIC TIME
10.18 (0.4) = 10.20 BASIC TIME


sub 10.20 with bad condition, it would be good
 

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Gatlin+(suspected PED's)= beast. Compare his arm and shoulder movements to Lemaitre's, Gatlin's shoulders are squared, level and movement is progressive(forward) while Lemaitres left shoulder/arm and hand actually pull his left shoulder in a backward motion almost like when a person pulls you backwards while walking. Over a 200m race this can affect your time by .25-.40 of a second. Imagine running as fast as you can and trying to touch or reach behind yourself on each armswing, this is the motion I am describing. If he could correct this arm flailing motion he would be much better off.

Gotta admit anytime Lemaitre beats Gay or Gatlin I am a happy fan! I would love to see it happen more often...


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RCSMAN tu trouves combien au passage au 100 pour Lemaitre à Monaco en 2014 ?

Je dirais en un peu moins de 10.40

Je trouve 10.44 (10.28 vraiment au dessus de la ligne de 100M + 0.16s de décalage de vidéos) 10.44 = 10.19
gatlin lui est en 10.04 au 100M ; 10.04 = 9.79 c'est impressionant

n'oublions pas que les conditions à Monaco sont toujours extraordinaire
 

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Gatlin+(suspected PED's)= beast. Compare his arm and shoulder movements to Lemaitre's, Gatlin's shoulders are squared, level and movement is progressive(forward) while Lemaitres left shoulder/arm and hand actually pull his left shoulder in a backward motion almost like when a person pulls you backwards while walking. Over a 200m race this can affect your time by .25-.40 of a second. Imagine running as fast as you can and trying to touch or reach behind yourself on each armswing, this is the motion I am describing. If he could correct this arm flailing motion he would be much better off.

Gotta admit anytime Lemaitre beats Gay or Gatlin I am a happy fan! I would love to see it happen more often...


Cheers
Facts don't matter to Rcsman, only that Pierre Carraz is always right and is the greatest trainer...you must know nothing of sprint :)
 

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Je trouve 10.44 (10.28 vraiment au dessus de la ligne de 100M + 0.16s de décalage de vidéos) 10.44 = 10.19
gatlin lui est en 10.04 au 100M ; 10.04 = 9.79 c'est impressionant

n'oublions pas que les conditions à Monaco sont toujours extraordinaire
Ca veut dire qu'il fait son deuxième 100 en 9.64, plutôt bon signe avec -0.5, j'avais peur qu'il aie perdu ça deuxième partie depuis sa blessure de 2013 mais ça prouve que non, il ne demande qu'à être en forme.
 
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