"Blacks are fading from baseball"

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Dmitry Young showed up in Nationals' camp weighing about three hundred pounds. He lost his starting 1B job to former Yankee Nick Johnson, a real baseball player. The local media is livid that the Nats, especially their uppity Mestizo manager, could possibly demote a Black man. Never mind he had a miserable spring training and showed up grotesquely out of shape.

Could Young be reverting to the angry, perverted, striking-out Dmitry of Detroit Tigers days? Naah, the guy's a Saint
 

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Dimitri Young is a filthy pig. He's already been busted for beating up a white woman (his girlfriend). They used to string up miserable bastards like him for that and I hope the day comes when they do again. He'll beat up more white women before he's done that's for sure.

He's the typical piece of crap that sports worshipping creates, one of those guys that just fills whatever hunger he wants: sex, violence, food, whatever as long as he can get away with it.

He doesn't belong in a civil society or civilization at all for that matter.
 

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Looks as if the MLB is still pushing hard on this issue
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MLB wants African-American presence to grow

NEW YORK -- Jimmie Lee Solomon knows all about the dwindling number of African Americans in baseball. He acknowledges that it's a concern, he understands that it could be a while before change in the opposite direction is noticeable and he believes that Major League Baseball is doing everything it can to reverse the trend. But he is also quick to point out an obvious yet often-ignored fact.

"Baseball is more diverse than ever," said Solomon, MLB's executive vice president of baseball development. "Forty percent of our players are from diverse backgrounds, from non-Caucasian backgrounds. So that's a good thing. But when the number of African Americans is declining, and you have areas from our country that are either underserved or unserved, now that is a problem."

In 2011, MLB once again will honor the history of African Americans in baseball -- a sport seen by many as a true pioneer in Civil Rights -- by staging its fifth Civil Rights Game in Atlanta, the central hub of the Civil Rights Movement. (The date has not yet been announced.)

The focus of the game will be on the contributions of African Americans to the sport, but a lot of the chatter leading up to the event will undoubtedly center on where baseball stands with regard to African-American presence, and what it can do to help turn it around.

In the 1970s, the percentage of players on Major League rosters who were African American was reportedly in the 20s. But in 2010 that percentage was 9.1, and it hasn't gone higher than 15 percent since 1997, according to the University of Central Florida's (UCF) Racial and Gender Report Card.

In addition, though such rising stars as David Price, Jason Heyward and Justin Upton have emerged recently, no more than five African Americans have been taken in the first round of the First-Year Player Draft each year since 2006.

"I think it's a big problem," said Hall of Famer Hank Aaron, who will be an integral part of next year's Civil Rights Game and the surrounding festivities. "I am very much disappointed in the way blacks, especially here in this country, have been able to play the game. I know the game itself, I know we have some serious problems, problems that people probably don't understand. We see African Americans playing a lot of basketball, we see a lot of African Americans playing football. Having played baseball myself, quite naturally, I'm concerned about baseball."

Commissioner Allan H. "Bud" Selig has often talked about the desire to see more African-American players in the game, because he wants baseball to influence all cultures and because having the best athletes is easiest when the talent pool is as deep as possible. But many believe that somewhere along the way, MLB lost a generation of African Americans.

In hopes of making up for that, MLB -- like no other pro sports league, really -- has celebrated the history of African Americans in the sport with the Civil Rights Game since 2007.

Perhaps more important, it has started Urban Youth Academies (UYA) in Compton, Calif., and Houston -- with others planned for Philadelphia and South Florida, and the ultimate goal being to have one in each Major League city -- where inner-city kids can receive free baseball instruction and learn about other careers available through the game. MLB has also given more than $30 million to the Reviving Baseball in Inner Cities (RBI) program.

But Solomon believes that there's only so much you can do in 2010.

"There are more choices now than any time before," Solomon said. "Also, football and basketball have become very popular sports, and the majority of athletes in both those two major sports are African American. One can almost say that many of the African Americans migrated to those two sports, but I would argue that many of them had no choice but to migrate to those sports, because at least in urban America, basketball is available to you. The hurdles for participation are much less, the cost is much less and basketball, for whatever reason, has grabbed the 'cool' factor and made it theirs."

In addition, playing in the National Football League and National Basketball Association -- where last year African Americans made up 67 percent and 77 percent of rosters, respectively, according to UCF -- is easier to strive toward in the inner cities.

It's a lot quicker and more cost-efficient to put up a basketball hoop or find an open field in which to throw a football than it is to round up 18 players, find a proper field, and buy bats and gloves.

There's also the notion that the NBA and NFL offer quicker paths to stardom -- since those drafted don't necessarily have to toil in the Minor Leagues for years -- and the hard-to-deny belief that NCAA football and basketball lend more exposure than baseball.

"That's something I think the kids aspire to and kind of latch on to," Hall of Famer Andre Dawson said.

Those are simply present-day realities that can't be combated, but Dawson believes other things can be done.

"It all boils down to getting the youth back in the game, getting them exposed to the game, getting them to go out and actually play the game," the former All-Star outfielder said. "You just have to constantly pound it in the inner cities, constantly stay in the ears of community leaders, high schools, junior high schools, and just keep it in their face."

That's why Solomon pushes for the promotion of the Civil Rights Game and the expansion of the UYA and RBI concepts. He notes that although he doesn't think MLB will ever get back to the numbers from the 1970s with regard to African Americans, giving inner-city kids more opportunities to play the game at a young age will go a long way in improving those percentages.

And if they don't, at least the opportunity is there.

"I think [the numbers] will go up," said Dr. Richard Lapchick, the founder and director of UCF's Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport. "Never to where it was, but I think they will go up. I think the popularity of basketball and football have seriously affected the pool of potential candidates."

Baseball, perhaps more so than any other sport, has to be taught at an early age in order for its players to succeed. The irony is that baseball is an especially tough sport to gravitate toward as a youngster if the resources are lacking.

"When we have an economic struggle in this country, especially in this country, the first ones who have the problem is African Americans," Aaron said. "So quite naturally, when you start talking about sports, that's the least thing that most African Americans think about -- buying baseball gloves and stuff."

Regardless of the reason, everyone involved in the game -- from those at MLB headquarters, the current players and coaches, and the living Hall of Famers -- essentially shares the notion that African Americans need to be involved more prominently as players.

At some point during the 2011 season, MLB will look back at the impact of iconic African-American ballplayers through the Civil Rights Game.

But it never stops looking forward to determine how that can continue to happen.

"I think that the numbers will increase," Solomon said confidently. "I think they'll be in the double digits, and I think that we're going to have a very representative number of African Americans when you balance it with the numbers that we have in our society. The more opportunities, the more numbers you'll have.

"I want -- and Commissioner Selig has made sure that all of us work -- to bring baseball back to urban America. And the opportunity that baseball provides should be there, whether the African-American kid in urban America decides to grab on to it or not."

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101221&content_id=16355704&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
 

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isn't it "funny" that MLB and other "concerned parties" feel no shame, and in fact feel proud, about their efforts to pursue black athletes to participatein baseball for no other reason than because they are black ...

meanwhile, any pro-White effort or interest shown by White people is *gasp* horribly racist. nope, no double standard to see here at all.
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Wait, I thought all the talented black baseball players and boxers are now playing football and basketball. Isn't that what we've been told all along?
 

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I love how they bring forward caste minister "Dr" Richard Lapchick for his opinion on the matter to try and validate their point and that white racism is the underlying cause of this...
Also one of their favorite excuse is that its too expensive for blacks to play the game.... horsesh*t!! Im a landlord and most of my tenants are section 8 blacks so I see 1st hand what inner city blacks blow their money on. "Underserved" areas my ass, these people get just about everything handed out to them.
 

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Is it me or does Hank Aaron come cross as bitter and angry. He and Willie Mays seem to always have a perpetual scowl on in public. Maybe these two can star in a more "diverse" version of Grumpy Old Men(also give Joe Morgan a cameo..
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Cultural Marxist extremist Ken Rosenthal is at it again. This time the argument is that if baseball can be made to seem "cool" to blacks, they will become "interested" in it and instantly dominate the sport. Amazing isn't it, that the prospect of making $10 million or so a year for 15 years isn't "interesting" or "cool" to a race that's as oriented toward materialism as any.

What the promoters of the Big Lie of black athletic supremacy will never admit is that the brief period in the 1960s into the early '70s when blacks were a quarter of the players and an even higher percentage of the batting stars was an aberration, not a permanent condition. Black deficiencies in hand-eye coordination compared to Whites won't allow them to dominate baseball, especially when it comes to pitching, even with the Caste System in full force when it comes to opportunities and hype. The paucity of black pitching stars since baseball was integrated 64 years ago is far stronger testimony to the argument that blacks just aren't that good at baseball than the belief of Rosenthal and his fellow warlocks that blacks need only be "interested" in something to dominate it.

Does anyone even read this crap anymore other than a few token hard-core anti-White types? Snore, zzzzzz. . .

How can MLB make baseball 'cool' again?

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/...-of-african-americans-playing-baseball-081111[/h]


 

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There are several black hitters that are doing well, but if one looks more closely.. a huge amount of their damage is being done against non-White pitching. Continuing to increase the non-White pitching while limiting the number of White hitters' that are "allowed" in MLB, appears to be the MO of the System right now.

To clarify -- I'm not saying that Matt Kemp, Justin Upton, Prince Fielder, Adam Jones, Ryan Howard (and some others) aren't showing themselves to be "legit".. especially when other guys like James Loney can't hit a HR to save his life and the struggles of Dominic Brown, Austin Jackson, Delmon Young, Chone Figgins (I gotz my moneyz..) and so on.

So, right now, Afro-Ameros aren't "dominating" the hitting statistics, but in free agency (this has been mentioned on CF before).. it does look like they get more ridiculous money compared to White hitters, and are often brought into-the-fold of teams' that have hitters parks and stacked line-ups. That way, they get more publicity and gain more "relevance" -- and this is especially true for the Rosenthals' of the world.. those with an agenda. I mean, Boston giving super-ridiculous money to Carl Crawford is a good example of this "elevation" of black players. While it's not unusual for "big market" teams to get "prized" free agents, they should be more discerning with their wallet, but, alas, "treating blacks like Gods and Kings" is a big part of the overall agenda....

These big contracts don't always work out, of course, but it still serves to give them more spotlight.. think about the official announcement/reveal of the signing in front of the "media/television audience" and the afflete is holding up the jersey of his new team! See, baseball needs these exciting blacks!
 

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There are other subtle ways that MLB has changed to favor non-white players over Whites. One way is the change in the strike zone. Older fans may remember when the stike zone was knees to letters and often a bit higher. Now the league has trimmed the strike zone down to basically just below the knees to the navel.

The shrinking of the strike zone affects white pitchers the most because they have the better control, with less strike zone to work with all successful pitchers have to be able to wing it and just blow it by the hitters. This favors power pitchers, and virtually all black and hispanic pitchers are power pitchers. If a guy can't hit the high 90's he's usually not a top pitcher. Throwing harder means more stress on the arm which is another reason that pitchers have shorter careers even with greatly reduced pitch counts.

Despite the shrinking strike zone the tolerance for striking out is unreal. For example the Tigers have a "leadoff" hitter, Austin Jackson, who struck out 170! times last year and has 128 already, this guy is a leadoff hitter. He's a speed guy who's supposed to put the ball in play but gives up 1/3 of his at bats without contact. This was unheard of back in the day. And he's not alone. A few years ago another leadoff hitter Curtis Granderson also led the league in strikeouts.

But teams don't care, as long as a guy hits 20 homeruns its all good. That's another thing that has changed. If a guy isn't hitting 20+ homeruns a year he's considered a bum (which was the impetus for steroid abuse). Even if his average is good. Gone are the days of good field / no hit infielders and gone also are white players that don't hit for power. The league has slotted white players to catcher, 1st, 3rd, and left field. They only want the White power hitters, others need not apply, that job has been taken by the cheaper labor of light hitting carribean infielders that are churned out of the "baseball acadamies" and imported from the streets of third world central america.

One of the big reasons there are so few black players is because all of the middling slots that were taken up by average talent players both black and white has been farmed out to foreign labor. Look how many crappy carribean player are warming the benches of major league teams. Why aren't US players in those slots? It's one thing to import a guy if he's a top player (which USED TO BE the justification for foreign players) it's another to import 2nd stringers.

The importation of hispanic players is part and parcel of many of the social ills of our society. Cheap labor, instant gratification (more home runs!), poor impulse control (wild swinging strike outs), misplaced priorities (let's help carribeans while our ghettos fester out of control), and anti-white sociology butressed by white guilt.
 

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I think the bottom line is MLB realizes that without foisting hispanics on the sport, baseball would be overwhelmingly White, and that's not tolerable in a country where Whites are fast becoming a minority and are supposed to be slowly but surely fading in every public sphere of society, not to mention Whites are almost universally considered inferior athletes by the brainwashed masses. Cultural Marxism and globalism simply won't allow for baseball "to go back" to the "good old days," and as blacks aren't very good at baseball, hispanics and asians are being recruited to ensure that the White presence doesn't exceed "good taste."
 
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The annual whining and sobbing has begun yet again. Time to bring Joe Morgan out of mothballs:

Number of African-American MLB players reaches historic low

Interesting excerpt: "Of the 30 MLB teams, 10 of them began the season with no more than one African-American player on the roster. Furthermore, 25 percent of the black players in Major League Baseball play for just three teams: the Dodgers, New York Yankees, and Los Angeles Angels. Those teams feature All-Stars Kemp, Curtis Granderson, C.C. Sabathia, and Torii Hunter."

http://www.thegrio.com/sports/number-of-black-mlb-players-at-60-year-low.php
 

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I knew there was a reason I was enjoying baseball more this year.

To me, there is a noted increase in white players.
 

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What? no BRA love for my los Detroileta Tigres? The Tigres should be the ideal model for MLB diversity. First of all they play 3 blacks everyday, Prince of fatness Fielder; Austin "lead-off strikeout king" Jackson, and Delmon "don't confuse me with my white girlfiend beating brother Demitri" Young.

They also have 3 hispanolas in the line up everyday-Miguel "I don't need no stinkin' AA classes" Cabrerra, Alex "my dad is a team exec " Avilla, and Jhonny (yes that's how you spell Johnny) Peralta.

Also 3 white position players are allowed to play. Brennon Bosch, Brandon Inge (public enemy #1 in the city) or Ryan Rayburn, and usually a white DH and or pitcher. And true to plan they are all considered scrubs, has beens or never weres, and are merely there to help out the true black/latinoid superstars.

What more could the MSM marxcultists want?
 

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The annual whining and sobbing has begun yet again. Time to bring Joe Morgan out of mothballs:

Number of African-American MLB players reaches historic low

Interesting excerpt: "Of the 30 MLB teams, 10 of them began the season with no more than one African-American player on the roster. Furthermore, 25 percent of the black players in Major League Baseball play for just three teams: the Dodgers, New York Yankees, and Los Angeles Angels. Those teams feature All-Stars Kemp, Curtis Granderson, C.C. Sabathia, and Torii Hunter."

http://www.thegrio.com/sports/number-of-black-mlb-players-at-60-year-low.php

Of course this just has to be due to "discrimination" or the great, superior affletes' "lack of interest". :dodgy: :tsk:
 

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For the most part, blacks don't have the stictoitiveness to go for long in anything they begin. We see that in every other walk of life in this country, so why not baseball too?

As far as the nfl and nba are concerned, they are carefully maintained illusions. Of course, the people maintaining the illusion are White. If it were laft up to the American black, the whole thing would fall apart right before your eyes.

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Number of African-American MLB players reaches historic low

Excellent news, as far as I'm concerned. Hopefully the trend continues next year and beyond.
 

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Baseball Creates Committee to Study Decline of Blacks in the Majors :icon_rolleyes:


Commissioner Bud Selig said Tuesday that he was creating a 17-member diversity task force to study and address the issue of on-field participation by African-Americans in Major League Baseball.
“I don’t want to miss any opportunity here,†Selig said in a telephone interview from his office in Milwaukee. “We want to find out if we’re not doing well, why not, and what we need to do better. We’ll meet as many times as we need to to come to meaningful decisions.â€
The first meeting, Selig said, would be Wednesday in Milwaukee, with Dave Dombrowski, the president of the Detroit Tigers, serving as chairman of the committee. The committee includes several other front-office executives, but also Bernard Muir, the athletic director at Stanford; Frank Marcos, the senior director of baseball’s scouting bureau; and the former Mets manager Jerry Manuel.
Only 8.5 percent of the players on the 25-man rosters on opening day were African-American. Several teams, including the World Series champion San Francisco Giants, had none. The highest percentage of African-Americans playing in the majors, according to new research by Mark Armour from the Society of American Baseball Research, was 19 percent in 1986.
“I really think our history is so brilliant when it comes to African-Americans,†Selig said. “You think about the late 1940s, the 1950s — wow. And you look at that and you say to yourself, ‘Why did it not continue, and what could we do to make sure it does continue?’ â€
Selig, who keeps a Jackie Robinson jersey near the desk in his office, said he was planning to see “42,†the new film about Robinson breaking baseball’s color barrier, on Wednesday night.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/10/s...dy-decline-of-blacks-in-the-majors.html?_r=2&
 

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With Spring Training about a month away here comes the annual bitch fest about the lack of blacks in the MLB: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10397206/mlb-needs-remake-pitch-young-black-athletes-espn-magazine

Same **** year in and year out.
Disgusting article indeed..."the instability of the black family is a debilitating remnant of slavery". So, this guy's blaming slavery for the lack of black participation in baseball, while at the same time talking about the heavy black participation during the Negro leagues and mid 1900s. It would make more sense to blame the civil rights movement than slavery.
 

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I suggest the writer of this article tune in to several hours of the show "First 48" to see what all the young black talent in US hoods are up to.
 

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With Spring Training about a month away here comes the annual bitch fest about the lack of blacks in the MLB: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10397206/mlb-needs-remake-pitch-young-black-athletes-espn-magazine


Howard Bryant wrote this article, which comes as no surprise. Isn't this the same Black Panther that pummeled his white wife in public a few years ago, then had his Jewish lawyer claim it was all due to racist police officers picking on him?

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/02/lawyer_claims_racism_in_arrest.html

Yea, great, another wealthy Uncle Tom who rejects females of his own race, yet has the nerve to call out others as being "unfair to blacks". What an @ss! I'm surprised blacks don't laugh in his face. What does he really care about the plight of blacks, he has a white wife? Oh, I forgot, he works for ESPN and only gets paid to play the "race card", every chance he gets.


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Caption: Prideless Uncle Tom Wants to see More Blacks in Baseball
 

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Howard Bryant wrote this article, which comes as no surprise. Isn't this the same Black Panther that pummeled his white wife in public a few years ago, then had his Jewish lawyer claim it was all due to racist police officers picking on him?

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/02/lawyer_claims_racism_in_arrest.html

Yea, great, another wealthy Uncle Tom who rejects females of his own race, yet has the nerve to call out others as being "unfair to blacks". What an @ss! I'm surprised blacks don't laugh in his face. What does he really care about the plight of blacks, he has a white wife? Oh, I forgot, he works for ESPN and only gets paid to play the "race card", every chance he gets.


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Caption: Prideless Uncle Tom Wants to see More Blacks in Baseball

Back in 2010, before Bryant was fired by ESPN for pummeling his white prostitute, I remember him as a part-time contributor for the always-pompous Sunday morning program: “The Sports Reporters.” The other analysts (“Lispy” Mike Lupica, “Rabbi” Mitch Albom, and Bob “Black Teeth” Ryan) on the show were discussing the Patriots after Moss was traded to Minnesota. They were all mocking the remaining receivers on the roster, denigrating players such as Welker, Woodhead, and even Edelman, who was merely a punt returner back then.

Bryant stood up for them, saying something like: “With Welker, Woodhead, and Edelman on special teams, I think this could be an electrifying club.” It was one of the most white-friendly remarks I’d ever heard on ESPN and I immediately noted it on CF. It proved to be a rare moment of clarity for, as Truthteller would say, this vile P.U.T. (Prideless Uncle Tom) with a battered, white prostitute bride. Every time Bryant’s name is mentioned at CF, it’s always concerning an anti-white article he’s written.
 

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if a black kid were good enough then he would be playing. Its much easier than football, less damage on your body, positions like pitcher could get away with not staying in top physical condition. Its not an expensive sport, despite what many White parents think, being around high school baseball for a little while, parents are really upset that they spent all of this money on travel ball and their kid isn't starting. They can't understand that their kid just isnt' good enough. Doesn't matter if they spent thousands of dollars on travel ball. Although some might have been, the coach I dealt with was a big believer in small ball, where you bunt a lot and steal bases, the concept with that there are so many outs in a game and you can score little by little and its okay to risk getting thrown out for scoring 1 point an inning.

If a black kid tries out in high school, he is most likely going to make the team, now whether he starts or not is another question. They might try to get him to learn to bunt just to steal bases because he timed fast, or most likely just be a pinch runner because they can't learn to bunt.
 
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