2015 NFL Draft

[Extra Point]

I think GLennon can be had for much less than a 1st rounder with the way the front offices view him. Hopefully Obrien won't be dumb enough to draft any black quarterback this year.

That may be true but Glennon is certainly worth a first round pick in my view.

Glennon is another player being written off because he's white. It's sure not because of his play because he's played well early in his career.

 

[Extra Point]

I still believe Matt Barkley can be a franchise quarterback if given an opportunity. How does he go from the likely first overall pick of the draft when he was a junior at USC, to a designated career backup in the NFL, simply because he had an injury his senior season, when he also played behind a poor offensive line? As far as I'm concerned so far he's been written off as unfairly as was Tebow and now apparently Manziel, and a long list of other, lesser heralded White QBs.

I agree about Barkley's potential. He would do best in a west coast offense type system.

He's another white player whose career has been hindered due to his race. He was drafted in the 4th round and should have been drafted much higher.

 

[woody39]

I'm quite concerned about this years draft, it looks very black, there is next to nothing to shout about for our guys. It's quite depressing.

The only thing to say is next years looks good with Joey Bosa, Connor Cook and Scooby Wright all set to go in the top five. Along with a good splattering of offensive linemen and Blue Chip prospect Christian Hackenburg also set to go pro hopefully this year is just a blip.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2016charlie.php

 

[Leonardfan]

I really do wonder if the pendulum for college offenses will swing back towards the pro style. There are alot of factors to consider

1. It seems that there are grumblings in the NFL after last season about the schism between college and pro style offenses. It was widely documented over the course of the season by the media that perhaps the "dual threat" QBs and spread option offense had been greatly limited and figured out. Although this is not stopping the media from touting Mariota as a potential top pick in the draft. Conveniently enough they are marking Jameez as a pro style QB now after touting him as a dual threat in college.
2. Pro style offenses do work in college - PSU under O'Brien, USC has always been pro style, Stanford, Alabama, Georgia etc. are all more balanced offenses with pro style schemes. Plenty more exist and spread offenses are not in place at every college.
3. Simply put black QBs cannot make all the throws in a pro style route tree. It hinders NFL offensive coordinators because blacks simply aren't as quick at going through reads progressions as their brains do not have the "quick twitch" that apparently the rest of their body does.
4. Will the NFL continue to change the rules and tweak the game like they did with basketball to make the game easier to play?
5. Where will the NFL get QBs in the future? 1-AA? Division 2? Following the draft this year as scouts, coaches, personnel men bemoan the lack of pro style QBs coming into the draft moreso than any year I can remember it seems that alot more of these pro style QBs from lower levels of college are getting draft coverage. Which leads to the question why weren't these QBs recruited to big time programs in the first place?

 

[Thrashen]

The best tight ends once again were white. Maxx Williams ran in the 4.7 range which is somehow disappointing according to experts so he won't "create mismatches". He will be a good one at the next level. Tyler Kroft was injured during medical testing but he has some good buzz around him, Nick O'Leary has hands like glue and should carve out a Frank Wychek like career, Jesse James tested really well and should get drafted in the mid rounds as should Ben Koyack. AJ Derby and Blake Bell are both intriguing developmental players.

Williams looks like a Gronkowski clone, with more agility…

He appears to be late 1[SUP]st[/SUP] round prospect, so it would be great to see the Packers select him. They won’t, of course, because they have arguably the worst TE corps in the league and NFL draft picks rarely make sense. They’ll probably draft a black LB to replace AJ Hawk, another sumo bust, or a bust at DL.

 

[whiteathlete33]

I've never heard of this kid Davis Tull, but apparently he had a 42 inch vertical and a 11 foot broad jump. Absolutely freakish numbers. He will be running the 40 as well.

http://walterfootball.com/proday.php

 

[celticdb15]

I've never heard of this kid Davis Tull, but apparently he had a 42 inch vertical and a 11 foot broad jump. Absolutely freakish numbers. He will be running the 40 as well.

http://walterfootball.com/proday.php

He's a stud. Had off the chart production at Chattanooga.

 

[dwid]

I really do wonder if the pendulum for college offenses will swing back towards the pro style. There are alot of factors to consider

1. It seems that there are grumblings in the NFL after last season about the schism between college and pro style offenses. It was widely documented over the course of the season by the media that perhaps the "dual threat" QBs and spread option offense had been greatly limited and figured out. Although this is not stopping the media from touting Mariota as a potential top pick in the draft. Conveniently enough they are marking Jameez as a pro style QB now after touting him as a dual threat in college.
2. Pro style offenses do work in college - PSU under O'Brien, USC has always been pro style, Stanford, Alabama, Georgia etc. are all more balanced offenses with pro style schemes. Plenty more exist and spread offenses are not in place at every college.
3. Simply put black QBs cannot make all the throws in a pro style route tree. It hinders NFL offensive coordinators because blacks simply aren't as quick at going through reads progressions as their brains do not have the "quick twitch" that apparently the rest of their body does.
4. Will the NFL continue to change the rules and tweak the game like they did with basketball to make the game easier to play?
5. Where will the NFL get QBs in the future? 1-AA? Division 2? Following the draft this year as scouts, coaches, personnel men bemoan the lack of pro style QBs coming into the draft moreso than any year I can remember it seems that alot more of these pro style QBs from lower levels of college are getting draft coverage. Which leads to the question why weren't these QBs recruited to big time programs in the first place?

Your assuming winning is the biggest priority.

 

[Freethinker]

I hope the reports are true that the Blackaneers will draft Jameez Winston with the #1 pick. This turd is going to go to someone and likely start right away so why not one of the most loathsome as well as terrible franchises. There already is nothing to like about Tampa. Jewish owners (Glazer family). Black head coach (Lovie / Hatie Smith). Zero White skill players on offense for Jameez to torpedo. It's a great landing spot!

It would also most likely lead to Glennon being traded for a draft pick. Hopefully he could land on a quarterback needy franchise. I think the Jets, with a new GM and coach, could be a great landing spot. It would do wonders for Decker and Amaro.

 

[white is right]

I hope the reports are true that the Blackaneers will draft Jameez Winston with the #1 pick. This turd is going to go to someone and likely start right away so why not one of the most loathsome as well as terrible franchises. There already is nothing to like about Tampa. Jewish owners (Glazer family). Black head coach (Lovie / Hatie Smith). Zero White skill players on offense for Jameez to torpedo. It's a great landing spot!

It would also most likely lead to Glennon being traded for a draft pick. Hopefully he could land on a quarterback needy franchise. I think the Jets, with a new GM and coach, could be a great landing spot. It would do wonders for Decker and Amaro.

The Jets are rumoured to be in the hunt for Mariotta. Or at least the talking heads are saying as much.

 

[white is right]

It's great to be back here. It was a rough and isolated approximate 2 months. As some other fellow board members pointed out there is no place like this that exists on the internet. I did make posts here and there on NFL/Draft sites just to drop in some truth on the vast majority of DWFs that read and make up those sites.

I have been reading draft articles and following the process although not as into it as I once was. I am finding the whole thing to just be essentially a repetitive drawn out process where the same myths, lies, stereotypes and cliches are recycled each year. No one in the NFL seems to be thinking outside the box at all, questioning all of these cliches and myths. Everyone would rather digest them and be copycats putting out an increasingly shoddy product on the field every year.

When watching the combine last week I wish I kept track of how many times quick-twitch, upside, raw, athletic, potential were used to describe black players who will ultimately amount to nothing in the NFL.

Upside is the biggest cop-out used by these talent evaluators - the bizarre logic behind upside as I understand it is that when a player doesn't perform as expected due to skin color and the athletic measurables that make them supposedly superior it is just based on the fact they did not live up to their "upside". Upside is not a tangible measurement of anything, it's a word they throw out there when one of these black players does or does not produce. Productivity should be the way to look at a player - not upside. By the time many of these players get to this point in their career they should supposedly be uber productive because they have been given every chance to succeed. When they aren't productive in college - the scheme is blamed, the supporting cast is blamed, coaching staff is blamed for not allowing a player to maximize potential. What upside really is work ethic (or lack thereof when a player does not achieve "upside"). That cannot be measured by anything by the character and content of an individual which this whole process ignores.

I was really taken aback by how these moronic commentators continually contradict themselves. If a black player did not run well at the combine they would say well he plays fast - make excuses. Mayock would say nonsensical things like the combine is a just another check off in the draft process then fawn over some no name unproductive black player that ran a decent 40 time saying that it helps his draft stock. And then these same idiots in a few months will say the 40 does not mean anything but then the next year they get all giddy over blacks running 40 yards.

I also noticed that Mayock rarely mentioned any white defensive prospect - anytime they were running the 40 or working out he would talk about the afflete that had just run and either talk him up if he ran well or make excuses if he did not (I recall one black ran a bad 40 and Mayock made an excuse along the lines of "it looks like he pulled up early and injured himself").

QBs
As far as combine players - If a white QB that was so celebrated in college was coming out and being touted as the first overall pick put up those kind of measurables he would be widely criticized and mocked - the media would be out to get him and destroy his stock. Jameez did not perform or test well athletically, this did not come as a surprise to me at all. I also believe that athletic measurables are not a huge element to being a successful QB. However this guy was touted as a "dual threat" QB in college and part of the new breed of QBs and now we see that those statements are made solely based on his skin color. The way this idiots supposed intelligence was being touted was beyond laughable. I do not buy that bull**** for any minute that he was the most intelligent player team x, team y and team z have interviewed as so many anonymous leaks have indicated. And for the same media who went ahead and talked about how the NFL has a character issues with Adrian Peterson/Ray Rice and countless other affletes - they all seem to forget the serious transgressions this dope made in college - sexual assault, stealing and yelling obscenities in a student union building - yet some idiot team is going to give this entitled ******* millions of dollars to submarine their franchise.

The QB invitees this year were pitiful - Brandon Bridge is still being touted as a draftable prospect, Jerry Lovelocke came out of no where to be invited over guys like Jake Waters, Bo Wallace and Huston Mason, Anthony Boone was terrible, Nick Marshall who is not even going to be a QB was given an invite as a QB. None of these players were impressive at all, nor was Hundley who stunk in college. Petty threw the ball better than every other QB there. I thought Mannion also performed pretty well and both showed themselves to be much more adept to the pro style offense than the aforementioned black quarterbacks. I was disappointed Grayson was injured and could not throw. I did hear complaints about how college spread offenses are hampering the quality of QBs coming into the NFL and that a schism within the position at the college and pro levels seems to be developing. Bruce Arians is one of the more outspoken headcoaches I heard speaking about this. Arians also heaped praise on Jameez which left me shaking my head.

RBs
Zach Zenner did nothing to embarrass himself and actually had quite a strong combine when compared to the other big name RBs performing. Seeing those numbers against his black counterparts should make anyone who doubts the caste system become a believer. I was disappointed Schuerman did not run as well, he was labeled as a potential slot guy in the NFL not suprisingly. He did perform pretty well overall and certainly outperformed many affletes. Varga did not work out - I believe he was injured.

WRs
NONE

TEs
The best tight ends once again were white. Maxx Williams ran in the 4.7 range which is somehow disappointing according to experts so he won't "create mismatches". He will be a good one at the next level. Tyler Kroft was injured during medical testing but he has some good buzz around him, Nick O'Leary has hands like glue and should carve out a Frank Wychek like career, Jesse James tested really well and should get drafted in the mid rounds as should Ben Koyack. AJ Derby and Blake Bell are both intriguing developmental players.

O-Line
As it is every year white o-line men put on a show and they also get knocked due to "arm length". Year in and year out I hear the whole arm length garbage and throughout the NFL the best tackles are white and dont have 35" arms. It is another misnomer. Guys with 32 - 33 inch arms have carved out great careers at OT. Brandon Scherff is yet another example of a white player trying to be move to the interior line because of supposed arm length concerns. Ali Marpet was the star of the combine and probably the whole draft proccess - he proved himself at the senior bowl and then tested out very well at the combine. Jake Fischer was another combine standout and is the prototypical left tackle. I believe a good number of white o-linemen will be drafted this year. The depth is pretty decent.

D-Line
Henry Anderson put on an absolute show at the combine and no one talked about him. He was just characterized as a high motor, over achiever with limited athletic ability. I hope he is a 2nd/3rd round prospect - truly a protoypical 3-4 DE. Anthony Chickillo should be picked in the first 3 rounds as well, he has done nothing but prove himself in both the east-west shrine game as well. Trinca-Pasat and Zach Wangemann all tested out well and are more than deserving of being NFL starters.

LBs
Hull, Heeney, Ryan, Hager, Kyle Emmanuel and Davis Tull all performed well with Hull, Heeney, Ryan and Hager running in the 4.6 range which is more than enough speed for linebackers. Hull could be another Sean Lee (hopefully without the injury issues), Hager would be an ideal coverage linebacker and Ryan would be a monster ILB. Tull and Emmanual both project as pass rushers - I hope there arms are long enough! Heeney was a really productive workout warrior - he was also productive on some very bad Kansas teams so scouts have been saying he has to many missed tackles but I am sure he is good enough to be a sideline to sideline tackling machine in the NFL.

One final note - Mike Mayock is an absolute race traitor caste whore. His devolution over the past 10 years has been quite something. He was at one time a pretty fair talent evaluator but has now just gone totally anti-white. I can't stand him - he is a master of throwing out racially veiled cliches as scouting assesments.

Zenner ran an average tailback time for the invitees. Really he showed that he at least has the speed to be a utility back at the next level. He has shown nothing IMO that he can be anything but an early to mid 80's Mike Guman or Matt Suhey type fullback(both played tailback in college and Guman for a short bit in the NFL). Hopefully a he gets drafted by team that thinks outside the box like the Patriots or the Cheese Steaks.

 

[Extra Point]

I've never heard of this kid Davis Tull, but apparently he had a 42 inch vertical and a 11 foot broad jump. Absolutely freakish numbers. He will be running the 40 as well.

http://walterfootball.com/proday.php

Tull was another gifted white athlete who received no scholarship offers. He was forced to be a walk on.

In college he demonstrated great athletic ability, excellent production and was an academic All-American to boot.

A team looking for a pass rushing, 3-4 linebacker would be smart to pick him up in the draft.

 

[Shadowlight]

Tull's pro day

He ran somewhere between a 4.55 and 4.58. But they think he still has a hamstring issue which goes to show he is very athletic. Should get drafted. Fairly reliable uzz on some other players.As of now looks like Zenner and Ross S will not get drafted however Jordan Taylor a rangy wr out of Rice might get drafted---no combine invite which irritates. Hull, Ryan and Heeney are linebacker locks but Hager might miss. Even wr Jaxon Shipley might get drafted. Taylor and Shipley must run very good 40 times to seal their draft status. Anything 4.4 and I think they are in.

 

[Shadowlight]

Combine 40 times messed up

Strange that this year none of the times were bumped up to a slower time like in previous years. For instance Mariota ran a 4.52. In previous years that would have turned into a 4.6 or something--what the hell. Not even sure they are electronically timed either--which begs the question why the hell not? The whole thing seems suspicious to me.

 

[Awake in America]

Davis Tull - The Caste System at work

This guy received NO offers coming out of high school. He walked on at Tenn-Chattanooga, a mediocre FCS program. He was the most dominant defensive player at the FCS level for his entire career, then went to the combine (amazingly). His 42.5 inch vertical is tied for the best of the last 10 years for a linebacker. His broad jump of 11 feet is tied for 4th best in the last 10 years. Scouts and S&C coaches will tell you that broad jump is the one you cannot cheat or really prep for. I doubt that, but it's the accepted lore. Tull ran a sub 4.6 forty with a bad hammy. So, here's what the current wisdom is on him:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/davis-tull?id=2552290

He's an "average athlete" with "short arms".

I don't think there are any lurkers/doubters around this site right now, but this is an excellent case study in the Caste System. The guy with the top vertical and 4th best broad is an "average athlete"; never mind the 4.58 forty. I'd love to hear a non-racial explanation for it.

 

[Leonardfan]

Arm length is another bogus measureable that the supposed experts like to throw out there. I would love to see the bust rate of those touted because of their arm length.

They also say he lacks upfield burst, whatever that
means. Pretty sure his vertical/broad jump are supposed to measure burst but I guess he has to be black in order to meet all the qualifications for upfield burst.

The whole draft process is a joke, it's all smoke and mirrors. It is mired in racial cliches and a lack of any sort of credibility or accountability. Scouts, personnel people, gms are all recycled throughout the league, no one ever thinks outside the box and all stick to the caste think indoctrination they have been socially conditioned to believe is truth. The supposed draft experts are just jock sniffing dweebs who recite what the other is saying. They grow on trees and spring up random websites every year and they all say the same thing.

 

[Twinkle Toes]

I have said this before but Tyler Varga is a first round talent. He will be drafted probably in the 5th round as he is not just an exceptional rb but an oustanding human being. I really hope he goes to the Patriots. I give it about a 50 % chance. He should be getting significant playing time by the middle of next season with whomever he plays for.

 

[Leonardfan]

I have said this before but Tyler Varga is a first round talent. He will be drafted probably in the 5th round as he is not just an exceptional rb but an oustanding human being. I really hope he goes to the Patriots. I give it about a 50 % chance. He should be getting significant playing time by the middle of next season with whomever he plays for.

I really like Varga and Zenner. I would love to see either on the patriots. Varga is actually getting a decent amount of favorable buzz which is encouraging.

Zenner is honestly a 2nd/3rd round Guy easily capable of surpassing the 1k yard mark in rushing. There is no buzz for him at all. He always showed up big when playing FBS opponents. He went up against Missouri and supposed 1st rounder dlineman Shane Ray and rushed for over 100 yds. This is against an sec school which according to everyone have the top defenses in the country. There are a few black RBs from fcs schools getting a pre-draft buzz love fest.

 

[Twinkle Toes]

I am not sold on Zenner. He has that one cut ability and he has good straight line speed with the ball but I am not sure he has enough shiftiness to have a large impact in the NFL. He might make a good third down back or a move the chains kind of guy. Varga however is incredibly elusive for someone his size and I have seen a huge # of scouts remark about how it is almost impossible for one defender to bring him down as he is incredibly strong and arm tackles just do not work. Zenner could have a nice career in the NFL but it would have to be with the right team.

 

[Don Wassall]

Strange that this year none of the times were bumped up to a slower time like in previous years. For instance Mariota ran a 4.52. In previous years that would have turned into a 4.6 or something--what the hell. Not even sure they are electronically timed either--which begs the question why the hell not? The whole thing seems suspicious to me.

That's almost always done only with Whites at the Combine, and since there were almost no Whites there this year and none highly touted, no need to bother with slowing down times. . . And as Leonardfan pointed out (and which I noticed too), Mike Mayock was on overdrive calling blacks with slow 40 times "quick," "quicker than fast," "football fast," etc. When a White guy's fast he's still slow, when a black guy's slow he's still fast.

 

[celticdb15]

That's almost always done only with Whites at the Combine, and since there were almost no Whites there this year and none highly touted, no need to bother with slowing down times. . . And as Leonardfan pointed out (and which I noticed too), Mike Mayock was on overdrive calling blacks with slow 40 times "quick," "quicker than fast," "football fast," etc. When a White guy's fast he's still slow, when a black guy's slow he's still fast.

Mayocks such a sell out. Had high hopes when he first made his debut but he was quickly corrupted. This year's combine was a dud. Sucks that wideouts Jordan Taylor,Matt Miller,Michael Bennett, and JJWorton werent invited because of their whiteness although the latter 3 were dealing with injuries. Who knows.

 

[celticdb15]

Some Pro Day results:
Minnesota DT Cameron Botticelli 6'5 295 is a former walk-on turned 3year starter for Golden Gophers. He ran a 5.07 40 and pumped out 24reps on bench. Severely underrated prospect.

WR Isaac Fruecthe clocked a 4.4 40!

Guard Zac Epping started 47games for Minnesota yet no combine invite. Can't find any pro day numbers on him. All the media coverage focused on Cobb,Williams,and Thompson... But he's agrinder with his resume should get drafted but probably UDFA.

 

[celticdb15]

I am not sold on Zenner. He has that one cut ability and he has good straight line speed with the ball but I am not sure he has enough shiftiness to have a large impact in the NFL. He might make a good third down back or a move the chains kind of guy. Varga however is incredibly elusive for someone his size and I have seen a huge # of scouts remark about how it is almost impossible for one defender to bring him down as he is incredibly strong and arm tackles just do not work. Zenner could have a nice career in the NFL but it would have to be with the right team.

What else can Zenner do?! If a guy rushes for 3 straight 2,000 yard seasons and still gets zero respect what the **** else can he do? Lol not trying to be a dick but I disagree completely. He's done everything right so far. Runs a 4.6 at combine if he runs 4.5 at pro day he solidifies himself as mid round pick!! Zenner,Vargas,Scheurman, Wegher, and Weismanall have NFL talent I have a dream...

 

[Leonardfan]

Strange that this year none of the times were bumped up to a slower time like in previous years. For instance Mariota ran a 4.52. In previous years that would have turned into a 4.6 or something--what the hell. Not even sure they are electronically timed either--which begs the question why the hell not? The whole thing seems suspicious to me.

A black linebacker from Washington shaq thompson ran a 4.74. Prior to him posting this time which was later altered to a 4.64, mayock was talking him up as a tweener who could potentially be a safety or running back because he is undersized at 228lbs. I watched him run and I saw the timer say 4.74 but somehow he magically shaved a 10th of a second from his official time. He was actually much slower than Hull, Ryan, Hager and Heeney whom mayock gave nothing more than an insignificant few words about their presence at the combine.

 

[dwid]

What else can Zenner do?! If a guy rushes for 3 straight 2,000 yard seasons and still gets zero respect what the **** else can he do? Lol not trying to be a dick but I disagree completely. He's done everything right so far. Runs a 4.6 at combine if he runs 4.5 at pro day he solidifies himself as mid round pick!! Zenner,Vargas,Scheurman, Wegher, and Weismanall have NFL talent I have a dream...

Deja Vu like Ive seen this before. Hyping up lesser talents and dismissing better ones. Zenner is the real deal, he has dominated his level of competition as well as FBS. Just not as sold on Varga, he is slower and didn't dominate his competition multiple years, although he is still good. Just not good enough to be a White rb that breaks through the discrimination in the NFL. I think he would be fine in the NFL as a starter but the only reason he is getting any hype is because he is already over 220 and they expect him to bulk up to block as a fb, as well as be a special teams demon. Zenner is also about the same weight but many scouts are still viewing him as a rb. You can see this if you go and view their profiles on the nfl combine page. Zenner is listed as a rb and Vargas as a fb.

Zenner has a promising write up, although still has the dreaded "stiff hips"

STRENGTHS

One-cut downhill runner. Workhorse. Big and fast; smart and tough. Will win most footraces once he gets to top gear. Has almost no wasted motion to and through the crease. Stays balanced through contact. Strong production against better competition. In 2014, put 103 yards (6.1 yards per carry) and two touchdowns on Missouri after hanging 202 yards and two touchdowns on Nebraska in 2013. Uses stiff-arm effectively on second level. Runs through arm tackles. Good hands out of backfield and adjusts to poorly thrown balls. Has "every-down" traits. Sticks nose squarely into A-gap blitzers in pass pro. Can add even more weight to frame if needed.WEAKNESSES

Tight hips with thin waist and very little wiggle. Struggles to slide laterally from one gap to the next when a lane closes suddenly. Lacks creativity -- one-speed rusher. Gets yards after contact, but not really a pile mover. Needs improvement on acceleration through contact. Overwhelmed smaller, slower defensive fronts. Will throw flipper or shoulder at edge blitz at times rather than squaring up.BOTTOM LINE

When evaluators look at small-school prospects, they want to see them dominate that level of competition and that is exactly what Zenner was able to do. Zenner is more fast than sudden and might be best-suited in a one-cut scheme. His production, size and speed will generate plenty of discussion in draft meetings.

What a bunch of bs with the weaknesses

Varga

STRENGTHS

Muscular, well-defined physique. Has hands the size of an offensive lineman. Determined player with willingness to switch from running back to fullback. Strong legs to power through angle tackles. Runs with above average change of direction and uses effective spin move. Able to stop on a dime and make defenders miss. Showed reliable hands out of backfield at Senior Bowl practices.WEAKNESSES

Small for a fullback. Ducks head and leads with his shoulder when throwing a block. Must improve hand usage in pass protection. Willing to engage, but overwhelmed by size at times in Senior Bowl blocking matchups. Caught between running back and fullback for his NFL position.BOTTOM LINE

Could get pushed into the fullback genre when, in reality, he's a running back and an instinctive one at that. Varga's ability to run and catch gives him a shot at the back end of a depth chart, but he might have to show he can take snaps as a move fullback and shine on special teams to make an NFL team.

At least they admit that he is a runningback, although they dismiss it pretty quickly. Complete bs write up.


Zenner has enough shiftiness. Just because he is fast doesn't mean he lacks agility. His agility times were NFL caliber and it looks fine on tape. His 3 cone drill was average for an nfl starter but his 20 yard shuttle was better, .02 from being a top performer this year. As for the 3 cone drill, there are plenty of backs that have gotten chances and some of them that have done well with slower times. Zenner knows how to work within his skillset against top competition very well. His agility is well above average to get through the hole at the next level, his problem seems to be gearing down just a little too much to make a cut in the open field. However, I don't see it much different than several starting backs. It has been documented that home runs rarely happen in the NFL, he isn't going to be a jitterbug in the open field, but most 1k backs aren't.