2015 NFL Draft

celticdb15 said:
What else can Zenner do?! If a guy rushes for 3 straight 2,000 yard seasons and still gets zero respect what the **** else can he do? Lol not trying to be a dick but I disagree completely. He's done everything right so far. Runs a 4.6 at combine if he runs 4.5 at pro day he solidifies himself as mid round pick!! Zenner,Vargas,Scheurman, Wegher, and Weismanall have NFL talent I have a dream...
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He shouldn't have to do anything else, but get his chance. If Arian Foster can make it in the NFL with his sloth like speed and tight hips, Zenner should be a STAR!

Foster ran a 4.71, 40 at his pro day and a 4.50 short shuttle. Hand timed! Talk about tight hips!!!!!!! Watching Foster run in games, it is amazing he's in the NFL. Nothing against him personally. He seems like a nice guy, but he sure looks slow to me.
 
Zenner is clearly NFL material. Just like Nate Kimic, and Chase Reynolds were. Just like Woodhead, who kinda got a shot. Zenner is big, fast, and strong. All the tight hips, and little to no wiggle talk is just bs. Watch the guys highlights one time, and its obvious that hes better than most starting backs in the NFL.
 
celticdb15 said:
Some Pro Day results:
Minnesota DT Cameron Botticelli 6'5 295 is a former walk-on turned 3year starter for Golden Gophers. He ran a 5.07 40 and pumped out 24reps on bench. Severely underrated prospect.

WR Isaac Fruecthe clocked a 4.4 40!

Guard Zac Epping started 47games for Minnesota yet no combine invite. Can't find any pro day numbers on him. All the media coverage focused on Cobb,Williams,and Thompson... But he's agrinder with his resume should get drafted but probably UDFA.
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Pitt safety Ray Vinopal is yet another combine snub! 5'10 198lb athletes ran between 4.49-4.55. 40 times and put 26 reps! Would have tied him for 1st among safeties at the combine!
 
celticdb15 said:
Pitt safety Ray Vinopal is yet another combine snub! 5'10 198lb athletes ran between 4.49-4.55. 40 times and put 26 reps! Would have tied him for 1st among safeties at the combine!
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Vinopal was a huge combine/all star game snub. Brian Blechen was another guy who two years ago was being touted as a first round pick and he is mentioned by none leading up to the draft.
 
Leonardfan said:
Vinopal was a huge combine/all star game snub. Brian Blechen was another guy who two years ago was being touted as a first round pick and he is mentioned by none leading up to the draft.
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Agreed. It's sickening how these draft evaluators flat out ignore white prospects they bury them so deep it's almost as if they dont exist. Which is the point...
 
celticdb15 said:
Agreed. It's sickening how these draft evaluators flat out ignore white prospects they bury them so deep it's almost as if they dont exist. Which is the point...
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Yes it is unfortunatley. I really thought a corner was being turned in the late 00s but I was wrong. I cannot believe how blatantly pro-black everything has become almost as a reaction to the large success by a limited sample of white players that were able to break the system.

I hold out some hope that Petty, Grayson and Mannion all are picked by round 3 and end up having better careers than Winston. I am looking forward to Grayson's pro day because he did have a good senior bowl week and game even though all the supposed experts said that the QBs there were weak - well Blake Sims and Nick Marshall were both pretty damn bad that is for sure. It was a shame he was not able to participate in the combine, I think he could be this year's Derek Carr.

I hope Mariota has a better career than Winston as well, seeing what a total idiot Jameez was at the combine being interviewed when compared to Mariota. Jameez was smug and full of himself, the moronic commentators all ate it up and fed into it never questioning his lack of any character - his sexual assault/robbery and general circus clown antics. Mariota seems like a well spoken, articulate and humble guy.

This year has shades of 2013 when the two black QBs draft - Manuel and Smiff both were babied and initially handed starting jobs. Smiff was handed it two years in a row and Manuel continues to get hype from the press as a work in progress with unlimited upside. All the while Glennon was the best QB out of all of them when he played and he did play on a much worse team. I can see that situation playing out this year as well. Jameez, Mariota and Hundley will get all the hype but Petty/Mannion/Grayson have the pro style pedigree.

On a side note -I hope Glennon gets traded - teams like the Cardinals and Saints would be smart to trade for him. I also hope the Eagles stick with Foles. The media is pushing so hard for them to get either Hundley or Mariota.
 
Leonardfan said:
This year has shades of 2013 when the two black QBs draft - Manuel and Smiff both were babied and initially handed starting jobs. Smiff was handed it two years in a row and Manuel continues to get hype from the press as a work in progress with unlimited upside. All the while Glennon was the best QB out of all of them when he played and he did play on a much worse team. I can see that situation playing out this year as well. Jameez, Mariota and Hundley will get all the hype but Petty/Mannion/Grayson have the pro style pedigree.

On a side note -I hope Glennon gets traded - teams like the Cardinals and Saints would be smart to trade for him. I also hope the Eagles stick with Foles. The media is pushing so hard for them to get either Hundley or Mariota.
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Glennon had a better quarterback rating than both Manuel and Smith every year yet the mainstream sports media dismisses Glennon as a starting quarterback while still supporting both Manuel and Smith.

Their black supremacist anti-white bias is evident.
 
I'm amused at how almost every commentator/analyst acts like it's a done-deal that Winston is going to be a "stud". It's like they've never watched Manuel, Smith, or any of the other countless black busts! I get sick of turning on NFL network and constantly seeing the two over-hyped, dark-skinned saviors of the QB position getting unreal praise and adulation. At least in years past the draft had at least one white dude to cheer for at QB going in the first round, and now that's been purged...oh well, Petty and the others are going to have much greater success if they're allowed to.
 
Carolina Speed said:
He shouldn't have to do anything else, but get his chance. If Arian Foster can make it in the NFL with his sloth like speed and tight hips, Zenner should be a STAR!

Foster ran a 4.71, 40 at his pro day and a 4.50 short shuttle. Hand timed! Talk about tight hips!!!!!!! Watching Foster run in games, it is amazing he's in the NFL. Nothing against him personally. He seems like a nice guy, but he sure looks slow to me.
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Foster has nothing sudden about his running style. He is a chugger that can get solid runs when he gets up to speed. His game films don't make him appear faster then Zenner.
 
Utah St. Vigil had a stellar pro day ran a 4.65 and 26 reps at 6'2 235.
 
celticdb15 said:
Utah St. Vigil had a stellar pro day ran a 4.65 and 26 reps at 6'2 235.
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Vigil was a huge combine snub. Compare him to Paul Dawson who Mayock has been touting as some elite talent even after running a 4.9 40 because he was just a productive football player. Well look at what Vigil did last season - he had more tackles/.5 more TFL and 3 more sacks. Vigil's career numbers are nothing short of stellar. Vigil is a football player and tackling machine, he went to the same school as Bobby Wagner who has not had anyone question his level of competition. Just another case of the caste system at work.
 
celticdb15 said:
Utah St. Vigil had a stellar pro day ran a 4.65 and 26 reps at 6'2 235.
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Not only did Zach Vigil test out well athletically he was extremely productive. He had 156 tackles, 20.5 TFL and 9 sacks his senior year.

The scouting reports have the usual anti-white bias. According to them Vigil doesn't play the run well and has a ceiling of being an NFL backup. Vigil had 156 tackles and supposedly can't play the run, lol.

If Vigil was black he'd be in the discussion to go in the first 3 rounds but he's white so he'll likely go late in the draft or go undrafted.
 
Extra Point said:
Not only did Zach Vigil test out well athletically he was extremely productive. He had 156 tackles, 20.5 TFL and 9 sacks his senior year.

The scouting reports have the usual anti-white bias. According to them Vigil doesn't play the run well and has a ceiling of being an NFL backup. Vigil had 156 tackles and supposedly can't play the run, lol.

If Vigil was black he'd be in the discussion to go in the first 3 rounds but he's white so he'll likely go late in the draft or go undrafted.
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How those numbers are not combine worthy is beyond me
 
Almost everyone on that Fullback list is over 230 lbs, and a lot of 240lbs - except Zach Zenner (222), Tyler Varga (223), and Zach Laskey (218).
What do all these undersized fullbacks have in common???
You guessed it!!!
 
jacknyc said:
Almost everyone on that Fullback list is over 230 lbs, and a lot of 240lbs - except Zach Zenner (222), Tyler Varga (223), and Zach Laskey (218).
What do all these undersized fullbacks have in common???
You guessed it!!!
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It reminds me of a few years ago when Joe Martinek, a 220 pounder with 4.4 speed, was only listed as a fullback. Of course he was white.
 
Wisconsin Whitewater WR Jake Kumerow ran a 4.4 at UW Madison's pro day. Despite no combine invite I have a feeling the cousin of OSU star Joey Bosa, will be a mid round pick in his own rightcome draft time.
 
I hope Kumerow gets a shot. Jordan Taylor and Matt Miller are also guys that should get drafted. It's amazing how Matt Miller is not even mentioned anywhere regarding the draft. His injury really hurt his chances.
 
Wr's

Leonardfan said:
I hope Kumerow gets a shot. Jordan Taylor and Matt Miller are also guys that should get drafted. It's amazing how Matt Miller is not even mentioned anywhere regarding the draft. His injury really hurt his chances.
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Kumerow has a chance to get drafted as does Jordan Taylor. If Taylor runs a 4.4 on his pro day I think he is a lock-also some talk about Jaxon Shipley but again he will have to run a 4.4 40. Tyler McCulloch a little used wr from Colorado ran a 4.48 40 and 37 vertical on his pro day. I watch a lot of Colorado games because of wr Nelson Spruce and that Buffalo they run out on the field before home games and not once did an announcer even hint that McCulloch had good wheels. Last year a lot of guys ran really well and were undrafted. Bet on it---- McCulloch will not get drafted. Miller at this point is a long shot unless he runs a 4.4 40.
 
That amazes me that Miller is such an afterthought. He was the best Wr in boise st history. He is a big, strong, fast WR. He was better than the two blacks who were drafted a few years ago and recieved a decent hype job from the media prior to the draft.
 
Leonardfan said:
That amazes me that Miller is such an afterthought. He was the best Wr in boise st history. He is a big, strong, fast WR. He was better than the two blacks who were drafted a few years ago and recieved a decent hype job from the media prior to the draft.
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As I've mentioned before, the problem that Miller has is one that most white skill players, and white basketball players have. Even though they dominate in the collegiate ranks against the same black players that they would line up against in the NFL, their game doesn't "translate". You see, when a black player has his name called in the draft, a miraculous aura descends on him, which imbues him with "next level" talent. In an instant, he becomes better and faster (NFL game is faster, whites are "slow").

Whites, despite their "privilege", are unable to receive this transformation. So, at the next level, Miller will still just be a college receiver, his 4.4 time won't be as fast as the black player's 4.6 time, he won't be able to get open, run routes at an NFL level, and will just plain suck. Just ask a DWF or a scout. They will tell you this is all true!
 
Both Kumerow's and Bosa's fathers played for the Dolphins back in the 80's. They were hated by the DWF's even back then.
 
Robert Gremlin the Turd said:
Both Kumerow's and Bosa's fathers played for the Dolphins back in the 80's. They were hated by the DWF's even back then.
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The pattern seems to be that the DWFs hate all white players and want them replaced by negroes, except for superstars such as Aaron Rodgers and JJ Watt. That's what I've observed.
 
Laskey had a good proday - rana 4.58 @ 225lbs, 35 in vert, 10'4" broad jump, 19 bench presses

Also read an article hyping up Hundley and saying the Eagles worked him out and did a film session with him. What a joke. Hundley sucks.
 
Even the barf inducing Walterfootball had this to say about Hundley.

"Early in the 2014 season, league sources from a few teams told WalterFootball.com that Hundley was overrated. He fits in the mold of athletic quarterbacks with good arms, but really struggles with pocket passing. His lack of field vision and hanging tough against a rush to deliver a pass are real weaknesses entering the next level. However, the 6-foot-3, 226-pounder has a nice skill set. Hundley flashed pocket-passing potential at times, but he just isn't consistent. "

Sounds like a typical black quarterback afflete who's skill set won't translate to the pros.
 
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