2015 NFL Draft

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Laskey

RB or FB out of G Tech he has been under the radar. Even though he lined up like a FB in the option attack he is more a hybrid ie more RB than FB. Not sure if he will get drafted but based on his college career and his athletic ability he seems like a steal . Throw him in with Varga and a few others and maybe these hybrid types will start playing on NFL rosters. Kind of like the H-backs who are considered Tight Ends. Every time I saw G tech play this guy was great.
 

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Laskey is a power back with good speed for a 225lb guy. He was royally screwed over with no all star game invites or combine invite. Anytime he played for Ga Tech he was dominant and always showed the ability to get the ball down the field.

This draft has 4 very draftable RB prospects - Varga, Zenner, Scheurman and Laskey. It would be a small victory if they all were drafted.
 

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Even the barf inducing Walterfootball had this to say about Hundley.

"Early in the 2014 season, league sources from a few teams told WalterFootball.com that Hundley was overrated. He fits in the mold of athletic quarterbacks with good arms, but really struggles with pocket passing. His lack of field vision and hanging tough against a rush to deliver a pass are real weaknesses entering the next level. However, the 6-foot-3, 226-pounder has a nice skill set. Hundley flashed pocket-passing potential at times, but he just isn't consistent. "

Sounds like a typical black quarterback afflete who's skill set won't translate to the pros.

Yea he won't do much. Stanford chewed him up last year and he quit on his team. Here is a BS blurb on him from bleacherreport:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...prospects-stock-watch-and-opening-round-order

"At the combine, he came in at 6'3" and 226 pounds before ranking among the best at the position in every athleticism drill.


Upside and dual-threat potential will always make Hundley a valued commodity for teams in need, even more so in what is a weak quarterback class after the first two.


It helps, though, that Hundley threw at UCLA's pro day—and well. If one had to peg a surprise first-round entrant on draft day, it would be the cemented No. 3 quarterback in the class."

As has been discussed beyond exhaustion here - the dual-threat QB doesn't work in the NFL. The major media outlets were even conceding this last season yet it is still listed as qualifying attribute to be a top pick.

Sean Mannion also had his pro day and apparently did very well. No bleacherreport articles on him though. Mannion was one of the most prolific passers in PAC 12 history. Hopefully his stock is rising and he can be developed behind an established starter for a few years.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...oregon-state-has-look-of-an-nfl-qb-at-pro-day

I believe Grayson and Petty both have their pro days coming up.
 

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Every year I post my projections of our guys with the best chance of being drafted and where. I realize this is a futile attempt at projection but if anything it gives us an idea of the best guys to keep an eye on when the draft occurs. It gives us something to argue and discuss at the very least. This list contains 62 players that I feel have the best chance of getting drafted and where. It does not reflect my belief of their skill/talent or where they should actually be projected. These are caste system projections.

2015 NFL Draft Projections
QB
Bryce Petty 2nd
Garret Grayson 3rd
Sean Mannion 3RD
Shane Carden 5th
Cody Fajardo 5th (position change to WR?)
Connor Halliday 6th
Taylor Kelly 6th
Taylor Henicke 6th
Bo Wallace 7th
Jake Waters 7th

RB
Tyler Varga 3rd
Zach Zenner 4th
Zach Laskey 6th
Ross Scheurman 7th (slot WR?)

FB
Mike Burton 6th
Mark Weisman 7th

WR
Jordan Taylor 5th
Matt Miller 6th
Jake Kumerow 7th

TE
Maxx Williams 1st
Nick O'Leary 3rd
Jeff Heuerman 3rd
Jesse James 4th
Ben Koyack 4th
Tyler Kroft 4th
Blake Bell 6th
Casey Pierce 7th

Nick Boyle 7th

OT
Brandon Scherff 1st
Jake Fisher 2nd
Ty Sambrailo 3rd
Sean Hickey 3rd
Rob Havenstein 5th
Brett Boyko 6th
Mickey Baucus 7th
Andrew Donnal 7th

OG
Ali Marpet 2nd
Mark Glowinski 3rd
Ben Beckwith 4th
Mitch Morse 5th
Miles Dieffenbach 5th

C
Hroniss Grassu 3rd
BJ Finney 5th
Reese Dismukes 6th
Andy Gallik 6th

DE
Henry Anderson 3rd
Anthony Chickillo 3rd
Zach Wangemenmann 6th
Brock Hekking 7th

DT
Travis Raciti 5th
Louis Trinca-Pasat 6th


LB
Mike Hull 2nd
Bryce Hager 3rd
Jake Ryan 4th
Davis Tull 5th
Ben Heeney 5th
Zach Vigil 6th
AJ Tarpley 7th
Ryan Mueller 7th

DB
Ray Vinopal 7th
Brian Blechen 7th
John Lowdermilk 7th
 

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Peter King is reporting jameez winston is expected to NOT attend the draft. With all the talk of this punk going first overall could bucs officials have told him he wont be their pick? Or is this just another red flag?
 

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Every year I post my projections of our guys with the best chance of being drafted and where. I realize this is a futile attempt at projection but if anything it gives us an idea of the best guys to keep an eye on when the draft occurs. It gives us something to argue and discuss at the very least. This list contains 62 players that I feel have the best chance of getting drafted and where. It does not reflect my belief of their skill/talent or where they should actually be projected. These are caste system projections.

2015 NFL Draft Projections
QB
Bryce Petty 2nd
Garret Grayson 3rd
Sean Mannion 3RD
Shane Carden 5th
Cody Fajardo 5th (position change to WR?)
Connor Halliday 6th
Taylor Kelly 6th
Taylor Henicke 6th
Bo Wallace 7th
Jake Waters 7th

RB
Tyler Varga 3rd
Zach Zenner 4th
Zach Laskey 6th
Ross Scheurman 7th (slot WR?)

FB
Mike Burton 6th
Mark Weisman 7th

WR
Jordan Taylor 5th
Matt Miller 6th
Jake Kumerow 7th

TE
Maxx Williams 1st
Nick O'Leary 3rd
Jeff Heuerman 3rd
Jesse James 4th
Ben Koyack 4th
Tyler Kroft 4th
Blake Bell 6th
Casey Pierce 7th

Nick Boyle 7th

OT
Brandon Scherff 1st
Jake Fisher 2nd
Ty Sambrailo 3rd
Sean Hickey 3rd
Rob Havenstein 5th
Brett Boyko 6th
Mickey Baucus 7th
Andrew Donnal 7th

OG
Ali Marpet 2nd
Mark Glowinski 3rd
Ben Beckwith 4th
Mitch Morse 5th
Miles Dieffenbach 5th

C
Hroniss Grassu 3rd
BJ Finney 5th
Reese Dismukes 6th
Andy Gallik 6th

DE
Henry Anderson 3rd
Anthony Chickillo 3rd
Zach Wangemenmann 6th
Brock Hekking 7th

DT
Travis Raciti 5th
Louis Trinca-Pasat 6th


LB
Mike Hull 2nd
Bryce Hager 3rd
Jake Ryan 4th
Davis Tull 5th
Ben Heeney 5th
Zach Vigil 6th
AJ Tarpley 7th
Ryan Mueller 7th

DB
Ray Vinopal 7th
Brian Blechen 7th
John Lowdermilk 7th

Jaxon Shipley will probably go undrafted. There is a fast receiver from Colorado, Tyler Mcculough, that has a chance to catch on as a free agent.
 

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Jaxon Shipley will probably go undrafted. There is a fast receiver from Colorado, Tyler Mcculough, that has a chance to catch on as a free agent.

UCFs JJ Worton has a chance at pros coming off an acl injury. Also might have another TE prospect. Illinois States James O'Shaughnessy had a 39td catch in national championship game.
 

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Jaxon Shipley will probably go undrafted. There is a fast receiver from Colorado, Tyler Mcculough, that has a chance to catch on as a free agent.

They will both go undrafted. Shipley suffered from a bad qb situation at Texas. He was probably more talented physically than his brother who was screwed over once he go to the NFL. I think Shipley should be a 4th round pick but I try to be realistic with my draft projections rather than optimistic because every year I go into the draft with any sort of optimism it gets squashed.
 

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They will both go undrafted. Shipley suffered from a bad qb situation at Texas.
Yes, poor Shipley was saddled with the immortal Tyrone Swoopes at QB. One of the worst QB's that I've ever seen at a power school. Tyrone probably cost Shipley an NFL career.
 

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Just saw the Browns offered the 19th pick for sam Bradford. Get ready for all the talk of the Browns selecting a qb early to replace Manziel after 6 quarters.
 

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I love that. Smiff and Manuel suck it up for 2-3+ years and keep getting their chances, while Manziel is written off after a couple of sub-par quarters. They are really trying to drive white dudes away from QB.
 

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Not to mention Manziel was limited to running plays that seemed designed to fail. Remember when he got hurt on that NAKED QB sweep around the end with NO lead blocker?

Its clearly all just a sham. If Manziel was black he would have played, been used properly, and been rookie of the year last season.
 

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http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/nfl-insider-deleted/article15312632.html

In a bit of good news Petty had a great Pro day. Mayock continues to try and talk him down saying that the offense really hinders him. He did not have that sort of criticism for Griffin or Geno smiff who both played in that same offense but did not have the size, arm strength or high character of petty.

The criticism of not having play call experience at the line of scrimmage is bogus as well. Pretty sure jameez recieved the play calls from the sideline, marioTA and oregon use that off system of poster board and pictures to get play calls etc.

i see petty as the type of qb perfect for the patriots or Eagles offense. Big, strong arm, accurate and able to make all the throws especially with so much of the offense being run out of shotgun. He compares favorably to nick Foles but with a stronger arm.
 

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Boise St. QB Grant Hedricks ran consecutive 4.6s at his pro day. Very underrated and perhaps another guy with enough athleticism for a position switch in NFL. WR Matt Miller ran a4.7 still coming off ankle surgery. Had 34 inch vert. MSU OLB Marcus Rush impressed had a 34inch vert as well.
 

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Miller's 40 time is disappointing but the fact he isn't at 100% and has not trained as much as he could as well as not being full strength has a lot to do with it.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2015/03/18/3704524_video-watch-jay-ajayis-pro-day.html?rh=1

gotta love the idiot scout quotes on miller saying he didn't jump out on tape and knowing he was slow. Not sure how someone so dominant magically doesn't jump out on tape. Even when the evidence is there in front of them they find a way to deny it.
 

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Miller's 40 time is disappointing but the fact he isn't at 100% and has not trained as much as he could as well as not being full strength has a lot to do with it.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2015/03/18/3704524_video-watch-jay-ajayis-pro-day.html?rh=1

gotta love the idiot scout quotes on miller saying he didn't jump out on tape and knowing he was slow. Not sure how someone so dominant magically doesn't jump out on tape. Even when the evidence is there in front of them they find a way to deny it.

Ya screw that chump. When healthy Miller's no doubt a 4.5 guy and if you watch his tape that confirms it even more.
 

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ODUs Taylor Heinicke has his pro day tomorrow. Word is that he's going to put on a show. He's bulked up 6'1 215,good athlete. Video game like stats in hi s career.

Hedrick,Kelly,and Heinicke were all notable combine snubs this year! All productive athletic white QBs who had average size 6'0-6'2...
 

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Just saw the Browns offered the 19th pick for sam Bradford. Get ready for all the talk of the Browns selecting a qb early to replace Manziel after 6 quarters.

Manziel has some talent. He needs to be given a chance.

If Bryce Petty is available at 19 they might want to double up at quarterback but they still shouldn't give up on Manziel.

Otherwise they would do well to give Manziel some help on offense. Maxx Williams would be a good choice for them.
 

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http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/nfl-insider-deleted/article15312632.html

In a bit of good news Petty had a great Pro day. Mayock continues to try and talk him down saying that the offense really hinders him. He did not have that sort of criticism for Griffin or Geno smiff who both played in that same offense but did not have the size, arm strength or high character of petty.

The criticism of not having play call experience at the line of scrimmage is bogus as well. Pretty sure jameez recieved the play calls from the sideline, marioTA and oregon use that off system of poster board and pictures to get play calls etc.

i see petty as the type of qb perfect for the patriots or Eagles offense. Big, strong arm, accurate and able to make all the throws especially with so much of the offense being run out of shotgun. He compares favorably to nick Foles but with a stronger arm.

I don't see why Petty isn't being considered as a first round draft choice. If I were a quarterback needy team I'd take him in the first round. I'd sure as heck take him over Winston.
 

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Ross Scheuerman sells himself short in this article (no pun intended):

At 6-feet and 204 pounds, Scheuerman has no illusions about being an every-down running back in the NFL. "That's just not my body type, which is why a lot of teams see me in the slot," Scheuerman said, "I'm not really a bruising back."

Six feet is taller than a lot of NFL running backs, and 204 pounds is about average or a little below. If he put on 10 pounds of muscle he'd be very nicely sized for a starter. Maybe he's being disingenuous or he's oblivious to the Caste System, but his size isn't why he's not being considered as a possible every down back.

article: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...nning-back-ross-scheuerman-pro-day/25019849/#
 

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Ross Scheuerman sells himself short in this article (no pun intended):

At 6-feet and 204 pounds, Scheuerman has no illusions about being an every-down running back in the NFL. "That's just not my body type, which is why a lot of teams see me in the slot," Scheuerman said, "I'm not really a bruising back."

Six feet is taller than a lot of NFL running backs, and 204 pounds is about average or a little below. If he put on 10 pounds of muscle he'd be very nicely sized for a starter. Maybe he's being disingenuous or he's oblivious to the Caste System, but his size isn't why he's not being considered as a possible every down back.

article: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...nning-back-ross-scheuerman-pro-day/25019849/#

Definitely selling himself short but if that's what it takes for a guy who had limited scholarship offers to play in the league so be it. Of course I'd like to see him at RB but if he makes it as a slot wr I'd be thrilled.
 

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Definitely selling himself short but if that's what it takes for a guy who had limited scholarship offers to play in the league so be it. Of course I'd like to see him at RB but if he makes it as a slot wr I'd be thrilled.

Totally agree. Trying to take a glass half full mindset with Ross as he has been labeled and identified as a legitimate prospect. If he converts to a slot WR or develops into a Danny Woodhead type offensive weapon I would be happy. At least he isn't saying he will bulk up to become a fullback.
 

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Hunter Lee and Houston Bates performed well at LA Techs pro day. The comment from Sokol about Lee was not necessary.

http://www.thenewsstar.com/story/sp.../19/bates-runs-excels-techs-pro-day/25052315/

Mike Reily from William and Mary had a solid pro day. Hopefully he is drafted and has a solid career.

http://wavy.com/2015/03/19/nfl-scouts-see-what-tribe-have-to-offer/

Mike Hull, Jesse james, Matt Lehman and miles diffenbach all performed well at their pro day.

http://www.centredaily.com/2015/03/19/4660592_penn-state-football-nittany-lions.html?rh=1
 

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Heinicke had a really good pro day. Improved his arm strength and put up great numbers in testing:

4.58 40, 10 feet 3 inch broad, 35 inch vert as well as throwing the ball well during his workout.

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/ol...football-pro-day-heinicke-20150319-story.html

Awesome! Stanford LB AJ Tarpley (6'0 232)ran a 4.69,4.11 ss and mid 30s very.

Michigan St. DE/OLB Marcus Rush (6'2 247) also ran in 4.6 range had 24 reps and 34 inch vert. Rush and Bates were combine snubs . They were stereotype d as being try hard limited athletes. However their tape and numbers show they are indeed excellent athletes.
 
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