2014 World Cup Qualification Tournaments

[ThePhilosopher]

international competitions are an anachronism because there are no longer nations
the worl "nation" should not be used anymore
we should say "people residing on X territory"
that's the kind of vocabulary that is used in the administration
the people are fooled into believing that nations still exist because it would be too brutal to tell them that nations have been destroyed and will continue to be destroyed, especially since in the modern world, everything people have left is their nationality since they are all some kind of mindless slaves
so they are not ready
if we want to use that term "nation" again we will have to re-form nations based on looks, history ect
then guys like the one who wrote that telegraph article will get what they deserve

Yup,the jew has destroyed the whole concept of a nation just because he does not have one.The most patriotic people are the most dangerous to us,as blinded by their patriotism the do the jews bidding without patriotism.Look at those eunuchs serving in the US army....all ready to lay their lives for Israel at any given time.

Soon,the world would comprise of just one state with Jerusalem as its capital.And the guys who wrote that article will get what they deserve either way.If the jew wins those guys will willingly breed with blacks,thus obliterating themselves....if whites prevail,they get executed for treason.

 

[Matra2]

the people are fooled into believing that nations still exist because it would be too brutal to tell them that nations have been destroyed and will continue to be destroyed

A slight modification. Rather than being brutal telling them their nations will not exist soon might wake up too many people and that would threaten the whole nation-wrecking exercise. In fact football is a part of the de-nationalsation process as it being used to condition people, especially the working class, to the new reality.

From what I recall it was the Ireland team of the late 80s that first took advantage of this process. They had English players with one Irish grandparent being chosen to play for Ireland, a team coached by an Englishman. It was ridiculous listening to their regional English accents whilst wearing Irish colours but at least there was still a blood connection. Today even blood is irrelevant.

 

[Phall]

Wenger backs Wilshere's statement

Wenger told BBC Sport: "I agree with him. I always said also an Englishman should manage the England team."



The Frenchman warned that national teams risk replicating clubs, who buy players to represent them regardless of their passport or nationality.

"I personally believe what we have really to define is what is an English player and we get that more and more," said Wenger, speaking at the launch of the Four Four Jew exhibition at the Jewish Museum in London.

"I have young players now with three different nationalities and I ask them how do you feel? You have some, for example, who were born in Africa, they have come to Europe, they have lived for a few years in one country and, after, their parents have moved to another country because they had to find work - and they have three different cultures.

"One of the tasks of the modern politicians will be really to define what is the nationality of a person, because some people feel differently to their passport.
"Have they the freedom of choice or do they have to be educated in a country to feel they love this country? Have you to spend a certain number of years in the country to say you represent this country?
"I feel, as well, in Januzaj's example do you just come six months and play for a country? It's not realistic. Maybe if he stays a few years and he decides that he wants to play for England then...
"But he has not chosen yet which country he wants to play for."

So, Wenger is not really backing the statement, just saying that in the case of the fresh Albanian import to England, more time is needed before he becomes English.

I have never cared for Wenger or Arsenal. It's been written elsewhere on this forum how the club pioneered the concept of dirt-cheap foreign academies in third-world African nations. A bit of franchise branding for those overgrown "prodigies" ensures a hefty profit. I don't care if this is "their season" or that they are trotting out a White-minded first team these days. They will forever be the quintessential "buy low sell high" team in my mind, even in the multicultural meat market that is the Premier League.

Wenger was brought on as manager by a jew. While I'd rather not be quite so ham-handed about my disdain for the Wandering Undesirables, this particular jew irks me from all the way across the pond. Check out the impressive bio for David Dein:

In March 2009 he addressed the European Parliament in Brussels calling on FIFA to scrap its proposed 6+5 rule arguing that players should be picked by clubs on the grounds of talent and not nationality. He also called on clubs to be allowed to continue to buy young talent from abroad arguing that it would be wrong to deny the most talented young players the ability to develop in the most suitable environment wherever that may be.

Of course, it's a farce anyway. While the USA must bear its burden of a 13% black population because of its Cardinal Sin of 'slavery', England, guilty of no such historical 'crime', flies in Africans from the West Indies on its own volition. England's national team hasn't been English in quite some time, and that is obvious to anyone with a pair of eyes. Why not naturalize an Albanian teenager in the name of the Queen? It's not like it will cut into Danny Welbeck's minutes.

 

[ThePhilosopher]

So, Wenger is not really backing the statement, just saying that in the case of the fresh Albanian import to England, more time is needed before he becomes English.

I have never cared for Wenger or Arsenal. It's been written elsewhere on this forum how the club pioneered the concept of dirt-cheap foreign academies in third-world African nations. A bit of franchise branding for those overgrown "prodigies" ensures a hefty profit. I don't care if this is "their season" or that they are trotting out a White-minded first team these days. They will forever be the quintessential "buy low sell high" team in my mind, even in the multicultural meat market that is the Premier League.

Wenger was brought on as manager by a jew. While I'd rather not be quite so ham-handed about my disdain for the Wandering Undesirables, this particular jew irks me from all the way across the pond. Check out the impressive bio for David Dein:



Of course, it's a farce anyway. While the USA must bear its burden of a 13% black population because of its Cardinal Sin of 'slavery', England, guilty of no such historical 'crime', flies in Africans from the West Indies on its own volition. England's national team hasn't been English in quite some time, and that is obvious to anyone with a pair of eyes. Why not naturalize an Albanian teenager in the name of the Queen? It's not like it will cut into Danny Welbeck's minutes.

England does not,i repeat does not fly in blacks of its own volition.The jews (who im sure we can all agree are definitely not 'english') are wholly responsible for this.
Why are you not ham-handed about your disdain for the roaches?To sound more legitimate?Or do you believe in the myth of the good jew?


I am genuinely curious.A thorough explanation,please.

 

[VetForumWars]

England does not,i repeat does not fly in blacks of its own volition.The jews (who im sure we can all agree are definitely not 'english') are wholly responsible for this.
Why are you not ham-handed about your disdain for the roaches?To sound more legitimate?Or do you believe in the myth of the good jew?


I am genuinely curious.A thorough explanation,please.

You didn't sneer Jews enough for my liking. Are you a Jew-loving goyim? Please explain thoroughly.

 

[frederic38]

A slight modification. Rather than being brutal telling them their nations will not exist soon might wake up too many people and that would threaten the whole nation-wrecking exercise. In fact football is a part of the de-nationalsation process as it being used to condition people, especially the working class, to the new reality.

yes, that's what i meant, ofcourse they don't care about our feelings but they don't want to be brutal because it might wake people up if they go too fast

 

[frederic38]

@phall, i always thought that wenger would be a pro-black guy because of the blackness of arsenal in the past seasons, but actually i discovered that he was pretty pro-white, as i said in another thread (before arsenal got so white) , when he started being a pundit on french TV
so i'm not so surprised to see that arsenal gets white now
from what wenger said, it was the previous owners of the club who were according to him too much in love with money to resist big offers for their best players
wenger said that they loved money because they were jewish
elsass, the part of france where wenger comes from, has a huge antisemitic tradition because since it wasn't part of france there have been jews there (in france there were almost no jews, they have been expelled in the middleages)

 

[ThePhilosopher]

You didn't sneer Jews enough for my liking. Are you a Jew-loving goyim? Please explain thoroughly.

I never said Phall wasn't anti-semitic enough in my view.
Phall himself said that he wasn't as ham-handed(as he could justifiably be) in his disdain for the jews.I asked 'why?'.

So,in summary,I asked a man to explain what he had just said.........whereas you,on the other hand,accuse me of supposedly not doing enough of something,and then ask me to explain the reasons for not being able to ahere to your standards.

You do know atleast two other languages to compensate for not being able to understand english,right?

 

[Matra2]

Full slate of World Cup Qs today.

England v Montenegro is probably the most anticipated match.

Spain can take a stranglehold on their group forcing France to go through a playoff if the World Cup champs beat Belarus.

Greece and Bosnia have a good battle going with both having 19pts and two matches to play. Greece will play a decent Slovak side tonight then Liechtenstein mid-week. Bosnia play Liechtenstein tonight then away to Lithuania mid-week.

Other battles are between Russia and Portugal for first in their group and the second place race between Iceland (population 300,000!) and Slovenia (population 2 million).

In South America all eyes are on Uruguay, who seemed to be out of it a while ago but have fought their way back to a fifth place tie with tonight's opponents Ecuador. A win is a must for Uruguay as their final match is against Argentina whilst Ecuador's is against Chile.

In North America the USA play lowly Jamaica but the most interesting thing happening in this group is Mexico's struggles. I'm hoping they don't qualify for Brazil.

 

[Liverlips]

To be honest, I'd like Mexico to qualify for the World Cup as all the other teams (Panama, Jamaica ..etc.) start almost all-black squads.

 

[Liverlips]

England starting 8 whites and 3 blacks today versus all-white Montenegro. Two of the quota blacks already missed shots. Would love to see Ukraine and Montenegro go though in this group.

 

[Liverlips]

Another black for England just kicked an easy one into the fourth row. Not hard to tell where England's weak spots are.

 

[Matra2]

Belgium's Lukaku, who scored twice against a lacklustre Croatian side, seems to be getting the highlight reels tonight.:icon_mad:

Right now I'm watching Uruguay's match. They are trailing black Ecuador 1-0 early in the second half. But even if Uruguay lose they should still come in fifth as Venezuela is losing to Paraguay. Coming in fifth would mean a playoff against Jordan (I think), so they should still advance to Brazil.

 

[frederic38]

ukraine won against poland, so to qualify directly and force england to play the playoffs, england will have to drop point in the last match against poland
if england really started 8 whites though, it's a pretty nice starting 11

 

[Europe]

ukraine won against poland, so to qualify directly and force england to play the playoffs, england will have to drop point in the last match against poland
if england really started 8 whites though, it's a pretty nice starting 11

They started 7 whites. Walker, Townsend, Sturridge and Welbeck started.Walker is out of the next game.

 

[Europe]

The English FA gave 18000 tickets to the Polish fans for the game Tues.. Talk about stupid. They'll probably buy some tickets from scalpers too.

They also used Wembley for an NFL game 2 weeks ago and the field looked like it had patches of grass replaced. They have a handful of games that actually count and they have to dig up the field with an NFL game right before the important games.

 

[Jack Lambert]

Well, England gets the automatic birth today with goals from Gerrard and Rooney as they beat Poland 2-0. Ukraine will have to go the playoff route.

Talk about a crazy game in Sweden today with Germany!! 5-3 Germany with a hat trick by Andrew Schurrle!

England started 7 whites and finished with 9, and Germany started 9 whites and finished with 10.

 

[frederic38]

france will face either portugal, greece, croatia or ukraine in the play offs

cristiano ronaldo was quoted saying that he wanted to avoid france because there were too many interests in this possible play off, implying that the match would be fixed to help france to qualify
he said that he didn't want to say more because he would get a fine

giroud has put benzema on the bench now, but since france can't play without an arab on the pitch nasri miraculously started being a titular when benzema was sent to the bench...very annoying
politics are involved in the french team to the point that it's unwatchable

after his 2 goals against australia a few days ago, giroud scored again but i think that FIFA counted his goal as an owngoal because a finnish player touched the ball before it passed the line

 

[Matra2]

A thoroughly entertaining match between England and Poland. Of the black players only Townsend played well. I'm baffled by how highly rated Welbeck is.

The French are complaining that the seeding system for the playoff isn't fair to them as they've played fewer qualifying matches. Frankly, there shouldn't even be a seeding system at all for the playoff. It's just another attempt by FIFA to disadvantage smaller countries.

 

[Jack Lambert]

It looks like the USA started 8 whites tonight in their Hex finale against Panama... go USA!

 

[Phall]

I think the 8 whites and lone black starter were both records for Klinsmann. The two mexicans on the back line were useless, especially Orozco (despite his goal, which was more of an atonement than a net positive).

The USA won 3-2 on a pair of last-gasp goals from white players (including the winner from the naturalized Icelander).

I thought it was ironic that Mexico lost, yet was bailed out into the playoff against New Zealand thanks to another bit of Yankee benevolence. A metaphor for our country, really. I'd have preferred Panama to have won this one, since at least they have the courtesy to not flood our borders with tens of millions of open mouths.

 

[frederic38]

france will play against ukraine in the playoffs for the 2014 world cup
as ukraine is one of my favourite teams, if they get robbed like they were at the 2012 euro champs i will be too angry to watch the world cup :angry:

 

[Jack Lambert]

The UEFA World Cup Playoffs (and a bunch of friendlies) start today! I'll be cheering for Iceland, Portugal, and Ukraine for sure. I don't care much about the Romania/Greece game.

Also, England will start 10(!) white players today against Chile!!

 

[Matra2]

On the stream I'm watching the commentator said: "As Karim Benzema so eloquently put it, 'There's nothing like a World Cup in the land of football'".

First of all I doubt Benzema has ever been eloquent. Second of all, the sport was invented in England. And lastly, I'm so sick of pro-Brazil sycophancy in the football world. I've been hearing it all my life yet at no time in that life have Brazil ever looked heads and shoulders above all the other teams. I can recall some 'beautiful football' by Brazil in the 80s yet in that decade they never won anything. The team that won the 1994 World Cup won with a header from a cross in the semi-final and in penalties after an ugly 0-0 draw in the final. There was nothing beautiful or unique about their style of football. Ditto for the Brazilian teams since 1994.

 

[Matra2]

Great match from Ukraine - 2-0 against France. It actually should've been at least 3-0 as Ukraine had good chances near the end. Poor Pogba and Benzema could be watching the Brazil World Cup on TV.:icon_grin: How can we enjoy the World Cup without these talents? Unfortunately two of Ukraine's top defenders will miss the 2nd leg so Les Bleus still have an outside chance.