2012 NFL Preseason

[Tom Iron]

The real interesting points are Cousins on the Redskins and if Newton is the real deal. My money says Cousins will end up starting this year. As to Newton, only time will tell. But if he's the real deal as far as being a good QB, then he'll louse himself up some other way, whether it be from injury or outside football. With blacks, it's only a matter of time until the other shoe drops.

A bit off topic. I'm reading a report by a northern General (Carl Shurz) who took a trip through the south in Aug. 1865. In his report, he quotes the southerners he speaks with and they all say about blacks, exactly what we say about them now. Some things never.

Tom Iron...

 

[Don Wassall]

I agree but we have to focus on it because QB is the only position in football that is white dominated. With the media hyping every black QB up it's just going to be like everything else in the NFL. The belief that Blacks are better athletes and eventually they become the norm at QB. Most of the good white QBs are in their early to mid 30s at this point. Who is going to fill the void once they retire? The caste whores see this upcoming void so they are pumping the college ranks with mediocre affletes at QB and changing the rules of the NFL game to make the position easier to play. The DWFs will obviously eat this up.

Russel Wilson would not last a full season as a starting QB - him or his sammy davis jr. hair. Pete Carrol is the ultimate caste whore - 3/4 QBs on his team are black.

A black QB I'll be watching with a lot of interest is Josh Freeman of Tampa. He was getting the hype as a burgeoning superstar after the 2010 season but he was pretty awful last year. The Bucs as a team imploded as Raheem's Dream Team turned into a nightmare and Freeman wasn't given a lot of the blame. But if he doesn't improve this year he'll start to be viewed more as a Jason Campbell type than a star.

Michael Vick has to show that he can stay healthy and perform well for an entire season. I have serious doubts that he can do either. I'd like to see the Eagles fail to meet expectations again in 2012.

I agree with Carolina Speed that there are plenty of good young White quarterbacks. I've posted it before but I think the NFL is in the midst of a Golden Age of quarterbacks. The CM media often decries the lack of good quarterbacks, but as usual the truth is just the opposite -- the blacks-only-need-apply positions are the ones that are lacking in depth and quality players.

 

[Don Wassall]

Bears safety Brandon Hardin taken off on a stretcher.

Chris Conte was also injured during the game. I haven't seen any updates on either of them yet.

 

[sport historian]

I agree but we have to focus on it because QB is the only position in football that is white dominated. With the media hyping every black QB up it's just going to be like everything else in the NFL. The belief that Blacks are better athletes and eventually they become the norm at QB. Most of the good white QBs are in their early to mid 30s at this point. Who is going to fill the void once they retire? The caste whores see this upcoming void so they are pumping the college ranks with mediocre affletes at QB and changing the rules of the NFL game to make the position easier to play. The DWFs will obviously eat this up.

Russel Wilson would not last a full season as a starting QB - him or his sammy davis jr. hair. Pete Carrol is the ultimate caste whore - 3/4 QBs on his team are black.

Ten years ago it was being predicted that QB would soon be a black position.

 

[Leonardfan]

Ten years ago it was being predicted that QB would soon be a black position.

I agree and remember that completely but you can't argue the media is doing it again. Look at the Newton hype last season and the Griffin hype up to this point. Look at the number of affletes playing QB at the college level and the dumbing down of the position by making the rules so tilted in favor of the passing game.

 

[Don Wassall]

I agree and remember that completely but you can't argue the media is doing it again. Look at the Newton hype last season and the Griffin hype up to this point. Look at the number of affletes playing QB at the college level and the dumbing down of the position by making the rules so tilted in favor of the passing game.

I agree. The NFL is a profit-driven business, but because it's so popular and profitable, and is an unchallengeable monopoly, it has a free rein to implement the same Cultural Marxist agenda as all the other (unchallengeable, monopolistic) institutions of power and control in the U.S. Imperial Multicultural Empire.

The usually unspoken assumption is that the lack of black QBs is because of "White privilege," the "lingering effects of racism," etc., rather than that the failure of black QBs indicates that Whites just might be under-represented at other positions due to affirmative action, racial slotting, stereotyping, etc.

Just as the police chief, mayor, and even President are now often black, so blacks have to be over-represented at the position that represents power and leadership in the NFL, which also, rightly or wrongly, is far and away the most glamorized position of any sport in the U.S. But they'll never be more than a token presence as executives and owners because that's where the Caste System stops.

 

[bearclaw500]

Austin Collie left the game after taking a shot to the head...

 

[bigunreal]

More of what looks to be the kind of abhorrent luck the few white WRs permitted to play in this odious league always seem to have. Two of Pittsburgh's countless black defenders went for his head, including the second one who blatantly slammed into it after he was already down. No penalty. No comment about the obvious cheap shots.

I will be shocked if Collie doesn't have yet another concussion. He seems to be almost supernaturally prone to them. Finally, a coach was letting him play his natural position, and he had great chemistry with Luck.

I really, really hope Collie is okay, but I'm not optimistic.

 

[Awake in America]

Ten years ago it was being predicted that QB would soon be a black position.

I can remember that prediction being made at least 25 years ago. SI trots it out every few years.

 

[bigunreal]

Collie being checked for possible concussion symptoms. Gee, I wonder what those results will be? The DWFs on fantasy forums are almost giddy about this, and are all demanding that he be "shut down," claiming his career is over, etc.

I see black WRs get hit in the head all the time. Why is someone like Collie seemingly incapable of taking the same hits? Physiological differences?

If there is any justice in this world, Collie will somehow, someway be okay.

 

[Riddlewire]

I see black WRs get hit in the head all the time.

There's less to damage up there.

 

[TwentyTwo]

Didn't Andrew Luck run a 4.59 at the NFL Combine?? Earlier Collinsworth trying to pay him a compliment on his athleticism said he was a 4.7 guy...needs to do his homework more!

Emmanuel Sanders just took a nasty shot...Reggie Wayne's head was buried in the dirt...they are OK...it's a shame Austin Collie is so injury prone...my Dad used to tell me their skulls were a little thicker.

 

[FootballDad]

its starting to worry me about the lack of push the Chief's line gets on the inside zone play. Its what they are mainly going to use Hillis on, and he just got stuffed, didn't have a chance.

White players looking good on the Rams, Long, Laurinitis, Dahl. Why is Droughn getting so many reps with the first team? Thats some bull****. Charles showing more confidence in cutting but not at full speed, so Hillis should be getting more carries still.

I wouldn't worry about Droughn or Gray getting too much work once the season starts. Charles and Hillis are the Chiefs co-starting backs. The Chiefs probably won't carry 4 RBs on the roster, so they are playing Droughn and Gray a lot to see who they keep. It's unlikely that both stick, since they both suck on ST. Besides, it keeps Hillis from getting banged up in meaningless preseason games.

 

[Carolina Speed]

Didn't Andrew Luck run a 4.59 at the NFL Combine?? Earlier Collinsworth trying to pay him a compliment on his athleticism said he was a 4.7 guy...needs to do his homework more!

Emmanuel Sanders just took a nasty shot...Reggie Wayne's head was buried in the dirt...they are OK...it's a shame Austin Collie is so injury prone...my Dad used to tell me their skulls were a little thicker.

TT, I was thinking the same thing, but NFL Draft Scout has Luck at 4.67.

 

[FootballDad]

TT, I was thinking the same thing, but NFL Draft Scout has Luck at 4.67.

He ran a 4.59, but it was "adjusted" to the 4.67 that you see. Why the "adjustment"? No one knows, probably because he didn't "look" like he was running a 4.59 since he's a white guy.

 

[Carolina Speed]

He ran a 4.59, but it was "adjusted" to the 4.67 that you see. Why the "adjustment"? No one knows, probably because he didn't "look" like he was running a 4.59 since he's a white guy.

FD, Collinsworth just said the black Pittsburgh FB Johnson ran under a 4.5 40 and NFL Scout has him at 4.69, I guess they adjusted him down? WTH is going on?

 

[dwid]

You may see random black receivers take shots to the head, but you don't see the same black receiver take repeated shots to the head in the same season. I don't remember, the first concussion might have been an accident but I saw many cheap shots on him, it is well known that after the first concussion it is much easier to get another one, the longer you wait the less likely, but the amount hes gotten then its highly probable no matter the time length. I saw last season with Woodhead after that hit he took on special teams in the 4th quarter in preseason. Defenders were aiming for his head on almost every single play to the point where he was slapping his helmet to the refs in one game to try and get them to notice, he didnt' get another concussion though. It is known that players like to target injuries that already there, everyone heard the speech that Gregg Williams gave in the lockerroom about specific injuries to target before the 49er's game in the playoffs. However it appears that blacks tend to target a White guy's injuries more than their own kind. If the NFL truly cared about reducing concussions then they wouldn't make the injury reports mandatory to put out in public.

Also there are ways to minimize injury when going across the middle or any route that exposes you to a big hit, depends on your size and type of body control you have. Welker is really good at this. Different guys have different ways, some don't know how. Collie just isn't very good at doing this, he isn't a small guy but he isn't huge either, 6'1 and thick frame, easy target. DeSean Jackson is a smaller receiver and doesn't know how and refuses to go across the middle after getting lit up once, and only wants to run post routes deep, although the recent blurb I read said "he was just being cautious because he didn't have a contract". What a load of crap. I didn't see the hit that Collie took but he was more prone to concussion than the average receiver after receiving so many. I think its only perceived that Whites are more prone to injury because we have so few of them when the league is pumped full of tons of black players every year, when one or two White receivers get hurt, thats a major blow.

 

[foobar75]

The Collie hit was pretty innocuous, so I'm surprised to hear that he may have suffered a concussion from it. That's not good news because there'll be far more vicious hits coming when the games move into regular season speed in a few weeks. Add the extra motivation for black DBs and other defenders to head-hunt the handful of White starting WRs in the league, and this doesn't bode very well for Collie to play a full 16-game schedule. I'm hoping for the best here, so we'll see.

On a positive note, Andrew Luck appears to be the real deal. Not withstanding those two INTs, he looks poised and comfortable in the pocket, has an accurate rocket arm, and overall, just looks the part of what will soon be an elite QB. He's miles ahead of Griffin at the moment.

Which reminds me, while I have seen Griffin on numerous national TV commercials, I don't believe Luck has been on anything. He's being treated like an anonymous 3rd or 4th round pick, while the Griffin hype machine is firing on cylinders.

 

[bigunreal]

I agree, Foobar, it was a rather innocuous hit, which makes Collie's reaction all the more frustrating. The second guy especially was clearly going for his head, but there didn't appear to be much contact made.

I'm hoping that perhaps Collie panicked and it was a case of overreaction. If he really got a concussion on that hit, then I don't know how he can keep playing in the league.

 

[Tom Iron]

Has anyone got the video of the two black ny giants players, one throwing the other into a tub full of ice water?

Tom Iron...

 

[Thrashen]

Michael Vick has to show that he can stay healthy and perform well for an entire season. I have serious doubts that he can do either. I'd like to see the Eagles fail to meet expectations again in 2012.

Perhaps Vick will suffer his seasonal bout of “broken ribs” in 2012?

If so, Rookie 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] round pick Nick Foles, who will be 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] string tonight against New England (with Mike Kafka injured), has been impressive from what I’ve seen in pre-season, and has supposedly been very good in Eagles camp. Unlike Michael “Smurf” Vick, Foles is 6’ 6” and has a much stronger arm than the aging “Animal Torture Master.”

During their first pre-season game against Pittsburg, Vick smashed his thumb off of a helmet during a routine throw, causing him to leave the game immediately, wincing in pain as the trainer examined him on the sidelines…

CAPTION: Webster’s Dictionary Photo for “Injury Prone”

I’ll be watching Eagles-Patriots tonight with great interest. I’m curious to see New England’s starting 22 (keep in mind that their offensive line should feature 5 whites come opening day, assuming Brian Waters decides to retire), particularly on defense where safety Steve Gregory and OLB Rob Ninkovich are definite starters, but players such as DE Trevor Scott, DE Jake Bequette, and LB Bobby Carpenter are all in the mix for rotational work. Also, it’s always interesting to watch the endless array of injuries that Mike Vick may/will sustain on any given play, and the fretful words of the announcers as their God grimaces on the bench.

 

[FootballDad]

Just a side note, Thrashen, Rob Ninkovich has been moved to DE from OLB. Here's a link to a story about it.

 

[Thrashen]

Just a side note, Thrashen, Rob Ninkovich has been moved to DE from OLB. Here's a link to a story about it.

Thanks for that update, man, as I wasn’t able to see New England’s first pre-season game. Their defense, even with the extremely unfortunate loss of up-and-coming linebacker, Dane Fletcher, should be interesting to watch this season. Below is their starting defense, according to their depth chart…

DE – Chandler Jones
DT – Kyle Love
NT – Vince Young
DE – Rob Ninkovich
SLB – Dont’a Hightower
MLB – Brandon Spikes
WLB - Jerod Mayo
CB – Devin McCourty
FS – Steve Gregory
SS – Patrick Chung
CB – Ras-I Dowling

Former Raider DE, Trevor Scott, is listed behind the undersized rookie, Chandler Jones, so he’ll likely receive plenty of snaps. At linebacker, Hightower is also an unproved rookie, Mayo had some durability concerns last season, and the NFL’s slowest linebacker, Brandon “The Eye-Gouging Armature Pornstar†Spikes, has already been having knee problems in camp…so look for Bobby Carpenter, Niko Koutouvides, and Jeff Tarpinian to also factor into the game plan. It seem as though the plan for Carpenter, according to a recent Boston Herald article, is the role of a “coverage linebackerâ€â€¦

“We’ve also witnessed a steady diet of the ponytailed wonder playing linebacker. He was there yesterday in the dime package. In fact, he was the one calling the plays in the huddle with normal signal-caller Jerod Mayo off the field.â€

Former Texan DT, Tim Bulman, DE Jake Bequette, the permanently-cut/signed/waived safety, Ross Ventrone, and Nate Ebner are all buried on the defensive depth chart. Of course, there is always the possibility of their “real†defensive backs getting injured, and Julian Edelman (assuming he makes the team) filling in at cornerback. Four years ago, Edelman made the Patriots 53-man roster as a rookie after his electrifying 75-yard punt return for a touchdown against the Eagles in a pre-season game. Hopefully, tonight, he and other white hopefuls can produce some magic against the “Fat Bastard Crewâ€â€¦

CAPTION: Edelman Punt Return, Circa 2009

 

[dwid]

I agree, Foobar, it was a rather innocuous hit, which makes Collie's reaction all the more frustrating. The second guy especially was clearly going for his head, but there didn't appear to be much contact made.

I'm hoping that perhaps Collie panicked and it was a case of overreaction. If he really got a concussion on that hit, then I don't know how he can keep playing in the league.

I dont know, it didn't look too bad in regular game speed but in slow motion it looked worse, the guy grabbed onto his neck and then a forearm and then it looked like a knee went threw there as well. I think its a precaution, he is nervous about suffering another concussion, but unfortunately being so tense and playing like that worried is probably going to lead to worse injury, can't tense up when getting hit. Hopefully its just a neck stinger or something.

I hope Foles does well, from what I saw in college he seems to struggle with pressure quite a bit, backing up instead of stepping into his throws, that can be fixsed over time, I would rather see Kafka but hopefully Foles has progressed. Hopefully we can see Riley Cooper more, he can be the deep threat that DeSean Jackson is but also be a physical receiver, better for jump balls and as a redzone target. Despite what Cooper's 40 yard time says, he has elite speed on the field to stretch defenses. Does anybody know the story on Chad Hall?

I think we could wind up seeing Rob at both OLB and DE depending on the package, they are going more to 4-3 but still plan on using 3-4 sets, imo hes better suited for 3-4 olb as a pass rusher, easier for a smaller guy to rush the qb from that spot. Bellicheck likes to rotate his defensive players based on the packages. Imo Bequette should be getting more shots rather than Jones.

 

[Don Wassall]

I could tell Collie was hurt as soon as he was hit, though the announcers were oblivious to it for a while.

I'm not sure the hit was clean; what exactly was Foote trying to do on the play? An argument can be made that he was trying to cause a fumble, but it looked reckless, smashing into a defenseless receiver, the kind of play the league supposedly is trying to eliminate.

Last year Collie started wearing a special helmet designed to reduce the risk of concussions. Let's hope it served its purpose and he has a mild concussion at worst. What a crying shame it would be if his career is ended, whether by him retiring or the league forcing him to.