2010 Cincinnati Bengals

jaxvid

Hall of Famer
Joined
Oct 15, 2004
Messages
7,247
Location
Michigan
TheAnimal said:
jaxvid said:
backrow said:
new development:

Head coach Marvin Lewis' future with the Bengals is reportedly "in serious jeopardy" after talks broke off Tuesday afternoon.

The main issue remains owner Mike Brown's bare-bones, throwback approach to staffing and scouting.
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Must only have white guys doing the staffing and scouting.
Actually that's true! Talking to Bengals fans I take it they mean something a bit different though. Supposedly their owner is still living in the 1950's when you only needed a couple scouts to hit the nearby Colleges and time some guys on the track.

As many busts as are drafted you probably don't need more then a couple of guys with stopwatches. Cincy signs so many retread thugs anyway why do they need scouts? All they have to do is keep an eye on the waiver wire and police blotter.
 

Colonel_Reb

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jan 9, 2005
Messages
13,987
Location
The Deep South
That is some strange news, backrow. I found this at the top of the page you linked. And I thought the New Orleans Saints' chant "Who Dat" was stupid. This takes the incorporation of Ebonics in the Negrophile Football League to a "ho nutha levah." I can hear em' now, "who dey irs"?

whodey.jpg
 

TheAnimal

Guru
Joined
Oct 19, 2010
Messages
160
Location
In Transit
jaxvid said:
As many busts as are drafted you probably don't need more then a couple of guys with stopwatches. Cincy signs so many retread thugs anyway why do they need scouts? All they have to do is keep an eye on the waiver wire and police blotter.

Well you've kind of hit on why teams DO need a fancy scouting department. Back in the era the Bengals coach came out of there wasn't alot of competition for pro football players. There wasn't alot to football. In general "back then" if you were interested in a player you already knew he was hardworking and disciplined with character to be playing for college programs. Now days not so much and you'd be surprised just how much scouting goes into these players these days. I don't just meant their on the field ability if you catch my drift. Teams have to actually go interview their teachers, coaches AND the local PD on these affletes.

That's pretty sad when you have to pay some poor saps $50,000 per year to flip through pages of police reports and fly around asking if the players you want paid attention in class and had some sort of work ethic.
 

backrow

Hall of Famer
Joined
Oct 23, 2005
Messages
7,203
Location
Spain
from rotoworld:

Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer predicts that the Bengals will use their first-round pick on a wide receiver.

Cincy has the No. 4 selection, and A.J. Green is already a popular Bengals pick in early mock drafts. The team is fully expected to part with free agent Terrell Owens, and seems unlikely to pick up Chad Ochocinco's $6 million option. The Bengals could pair Green with the winner of an Andre Caldwell-Jerome Simpson camp battle and still trot out a formidable wideout corps.
Source: Joe Reedy on Twitter
Related: Bengals

WTF??? did they forget about Shipley who even with 85 and TO managed to score 3 TDs on 52 receptions that went for 600 yards? does he not even count anymore? his numbers were pretty much better than these two clowns COMBINED!
 

celticdb15

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jul 24, 2007
Messages
8,469
Lol at JeromeSimpson and Andre Caldwell. Shipley will outplay both of those bums as long as Shipley can avoid taking bighits ala Austin Collie.
 

TheAnimal

Guru
Joined
Oct 19, 2010
Messages
160
Location
In Transit
backrow said:
from rotoworld:



Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer predicts that the Bengals will use their first-round pick on a wide receiver.



Cincy has the No. 4 selection, and A.J. Green is already a popular Bengals pick in early mock drafts. The team is fully expected to part with free agent Terrell Owens, and seems unlikely to pick up Chad Ochocinco's $6 million option. The Bengals could pair Green with the winner of an Andre Caldwell-Jerome Simpson camp battle and still trot out a formidable wideout corps.

Source: Joe Reedy on Twitter

Related: Bengals



WTF??? did they forget about Shipley who even with 85 and TO managed to score 3 TDs on 52 receptions that went for 600 yards? does he not even count anymore? his numbers were pretty much better than these two clowns COMBINED!

I would predict Joe Reedy is incorrect. Their pick is likely to be a sumo DT, a sumo olineman, or a runningback. You'd think guys like Reedy would pay attention to how teams operate. After three or four years on the team Simpson and Caldwell had a good game against a weak passing defense, they're likely to be given the reigns for the remainder of their contracts.

Also their owner loves sumo linemen early and often. They're most likely to reach for another one "with tons of potential."
 

bigunreal

Mentor
Joined
Oct 21, 2004
Messages
1,923
The obvious question here is: how do the #1 and #2 WRs on a team go down, and the season long, very impressive rookie #3 not be promoted? How did Caldwell- beaten out by Shipley in preseason, and Simpson- who had done nothing all season long, become the starters over Shipley?

Has there ever been an instance, in NFL history, where the #1 and #2 at any position were out of a game, but the #4 and #5 guys were elevated over the #3? Ridiculous.
 

celticdb15

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jul 24, 2007
Messages
8,469
Guys thats from one source. I have confidence in Jordan. As long as Palmer is still at the helm of the team I think him and Jordan can build on some of the chemistry they developed this year. Shipley was NFL ready, already proving doubters wrong!
 

TheAnimal

Guru
Joined
Oct 19, 2010
Messages
160
Location
In Transit
bigunreal said:
The obvious question here is: how do the #1 and #2 WRs on a team go down, and the season long, very impressive rookie #3 not be promoted? How did Caldwell- beaten out by Shipley in preseason, and Simpson- who had done nothing all season long, become the starters over Shipley?



Has there ever been an instance, in NFL history, where the #1 and #2 at any position were out of a game, but the #4 and #5 guys were elevated over the #3? Ridiculous.

None that I can think of.

The answer to your first questions would be Marvin Lewis. He has historically singled out and refused to promote white players. To understand the why's and how comes you have to look through the Coaches history. Ran off Kevin Walter as fast as possible. Couldn't wait to get rid of Justin Smith. Let probowl caliber left guard Eric Steinbach walk in free agency. Buried Caleb Miller on the depth chart. Got rid of Kevin Kaesviharn. Forced passrushing DE David Pollack to try and play linebacker resulting in his career ending prematurely. Forced franchise LT Andrew Whitworth to play guard until the player reportedly demanded to play that position. Despite excelling in the position Lewis drafts obese sumo Andre Smith with the goal of making him the LT. Tom Nelson, despite outperforming all but one other safety on their roster remains buried on the bottom of the depth chart. Bengals sign free agent guard Evan Mathis who performs solidly last season, Lewis buried him on the depth chart behind multiple sumos. No coincidence their strength on the line, LT, LG and Center collapsed this season when one cog in the wheel was benched.

Then there's Jim Leonhard, buried as the 3rd RB no matter what he does. Their #1 RB gets hurt, their #2 gets banged up so they bring in a different guy both seasons now instantly promoted to #3. There was the whole fullback position too, their owner signed in Joe Tronzo to play FB so they cut him and went most of the season without one(Leonhard couldn't even break into THAT caste friendly ceiling!) until they brought in some fatass afflete. Now you have Shipley stuck at a #3 WR ceiling at best until he is ran off by this coach.
 

referendum

Mentor
Joined
Nov 13, 2005
Messages
1,687
Animal, that was a depressing list of Lewis's anti-white moves. Makes the fact that he is staying on for yet another year that much more disappointing. I was really hoping he'd be pushed out after this years debacle.
 

Don Wassall

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Sep 30, 2004
Messages
30,201
Location
Pennsylvania
With Shipley, he is seen only as a slot receiver because of his race, thus any and all black receivers -- including the mediocre, small slot receiver before Shipley, Andre Caldwell -- can and will be tried on the outside but Shipley is stuck where he is despite having the size and proven big play ability to play on the outside.
 

TheAnimal

Guru
Joined
Oct 19, 2010
Messages
160
Location
In Transit
PhillyBirds said:
Great post there, Animal. Been enjoying your work on the board so far.

Thanks Phily, I really appreciate that. I purposely waited on posting until I hand the time to post in depth aand give my best I appreciate the kind words.
 

Colonel_Reb

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jan 9, 2005
Messages
13,987
Location
The Deep South
TheAnimal said:
backrow said:
Animal, i believe you mean Brian Leonard, not Jets safety Jim.

My bad! You're correct, Brian Leonhard.
smiley36.gif

Brian Leonard-Bengals RB
Jim Leonhard-Jets SS

I sometimes get names mixed up too.
 

Jack Lambert

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jan 3, 2009
Messages
4,743
TheAnimal said:
Colonel_Reb said:
TheAnimal said:
backrow said:
Animal, i believe you mean Brian Leonard, not Jets safety Jim.
My bad! You're correct, Brian Leonhard.
smiley36.gif
Brian Leonard-Bengals RBJim Leonhard-Jets SSI sometimes get names mixed up too.
LOL yeah, i'm not always that good with first names.

I've enjoyed your posts too, Animal. Oh I know it's a bit late, but welcome to castefootball!
 

Paleocon

Guru
Joined
Oct 7, 2009
Messages
330
Location
On the far Right
TheAnimal said:
backrow said:
from rotoworld:



Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer predicts that the Bengals will use their first-round pick on a wide receiver.



Cincy has the No. 4 selection, and A.J. Green is already a popular Bengals pick in early mock drafts. The team is fully expected to part with free agent Terrell Owens, and seems unlikely to pick up Chad Ochocinco's $6 million option. The Bengals could pair Green with the winner of an Andre Caldwell-Jerome Simpson camp battle and still trot out a formidable wideout corps.

Source: Joe Reedy on Twitter

Related: Bengals



WTF??? did they forget about Shipley who even with 85 and TO managed to score 3 TDs on 52 receptions that went for 600 yards? does he not even count anymore? his numbers were pretty much better than these two clowns COMBINED!

I would predict Joe Reedy is incorrect. Their pick is likely to be a sumo DT, a sumo olineman, or a runningback. You'd think guys like Reedy would pay attention to how teams operate. After three or four years on the team Simpson and Caldwell had a good game against a weak passing defense, they're likely to be given the reigns for the remainder of their contracts.

Also their owner loves sumo linemen early and often. They're most likely to reach for another one "with tons of potential."


A.J. Green would be the popular pick with most of the fans. My guess it will end up being a RB because Benson wants out. Now with Carson wanting out it might end up being a QB. The one thing that can be absolutely assured is that the Bengals will use the 4th pick to draft a player that they could have drafted with the 24th pick.
 

FootballDad

Hall of Famer
Joined
Oct 19, 2009
Messages
5,118
Location
Somewhere near Kansas City, MO
If Carson Palmer gets his wish and is traded, or he retires, this is the PERFECT spot for sCam Newton to land! He would get to play for Marvin "The Warden" Lewis, and be in perfect company to develop future bad habits!
 

white is right

Hall of Famer
Joined
Feb 16, 2006
Messages
9,996
Paleocon said:
TheAnimal said:
backrow said:
from rotoworld:

Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer predicts that the Bengals will use their first-round pick on a wide receiver.

Cincy has the No. 4 selection, and A.J. Green is already a popular Bengals pick in early mock drafts. The team is fully expected to part with free agent Terrell Owens, and seems unlikely to pick up Chad Ochocinco's $6 million option. The Bengals could pair Green with the winner of an Andre Caldwell-Jerome Simpson camp battle and still trot out a formidable wideout corps.
Source: Joe Reedy on Twitter
Related: Bengals

WTF??? did they forget about Shipley who even with 85 and TO managed to score 3 TDs on 52 receptions that went for 600 yards? does he not even count anymore? his numbers were pretty much better than these two clowns COMBINED!
I would predict Joe Reedy is incorrect. Their pick is likely to be a sumo DT, a sumo olineman, or a runningback. You'd think guys like Reedy would pay attention to how teams operate. After three or four years on the team Simpson and Caldwell had a good game against a weak passing defense, they're likely to be given the reigns for the remainder of their contracts. Also their owner loves sumo linemen early and often. They're most likely to reach for another one "with tons of potential."
A.J. Green would be the popular pick with most of the fans.  My guess it will end up being a RB because Benson wants out.  Now with Carson wanting out it might end up being a QB.  The one thing that can be absolutely assured is that the Bengals will use the 4th pick to draft a player that they could have drafted with the 24th pick. 
Classic line about the Bungles.....
smiley36.gif
I still don't understand how the half caste Lewis kept his job. Maybe the Browns looked up Ancestry.com and found Lewis is an distant kinfolk of theirs. Otherwise this makes absolutely no sense the team literally imploded this season.
smiley11.gif
 

TheAnimal

Guru
Joined
Oct 19, 2010
Messages
160
Location
In Transit
That would be my guess. With the returning of Lewis and the trade demands of Palmer I would expect to see another great white purge of the Bengals roster.
 

TheAnimal

Guru
Joined
Oct 19, 2010
Messages
160
Location
In Transit
white is right said:
Classic line about the Bungles.....
smiley36.gif
I still don't understand how the half caste Lewis kept his job. Maybe the Browns looked up Ancestry.com and found Lewis is an distant kinfolk of theirs. Otherwise this makes absolutely no sense the team literally imploded this season.
smiley11.gif

While searching for info on the Palmer trade yesterday to see if there were any signs of it brewing earlier I stumbled apon an interview with a former player, Will Anderson I think that stated he went to the Brown family and told them they needed a black head coach when Dick LeBeau was still the head coach. I'm certain that played a large part considering the racial makeup of the team is even worse now than back then.
 
Top