Free Agency Thread

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  1. Don Wassall

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    Just as DE Jared Allen has generated little interest, Alex Mack is one of the best centers in the league but there's no interest in him so far in free agency. But the black scrubs, has-beens and never-weres continue to get signed left and right.

    Profootballtalk reports free agent C Alex Mack hasn't taken any visits and is generating no interest. As Mike Florio points out, it might be best for Mack to sign the one-year, $10.039 million transition tender the Browns slapped him with before GM Ray Farmer rescinds the offer. The money around the league is starting to dry up one week into free agency, so the chances of Mack landing a deal he likes appear slim. He can earn the hefty salary in 2014 and hit the open market again next March.
     
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  3. Upside

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    Uneventful free agency thus far; only real brightspot so far is the Gerhart signing.

    Just a quick update on some of our key guys still out there, and teams in need of a starter..

    QB- Kevin Kolb, Colt McCoy, Matt Flynn, Tim Tebow, Rex Grossman
    Teams in need: BUF, NYJ, JAX, CLE, OAK

    RB- Brian Leonard, Jacob Hester, John Kuhn
    Teams in need: PIT, MIA, OAK, IND, DEN

    TE- Owen Daniels, Tony Shleffler, Dallas Clark, Bear Pascoe
    Teams in need: GB, MIA, NYJ, JAX, TEN, NYG, CHI, TB, STL

    WR- Austin Collie, Marc Mariani, Kevin Walter
    Teams in need: BUF, CLE, PIT, HOU, TEN, OAK, MIN, NO, TB

    OT- David Stewart, Eric Winston, Eben Britton, Tony Pashos, Jeremy Trueblood, Tyson Clabo

    OG- Richie Incognito, Daryn Colledge, Harvey Dahl, Garrett Reynolds

    OC- Alex Mack (transition), Brian De La Puente, Ryan Wendell, David Baas, Will Montgomery

    DL- Jared Allen, Adam Carriker, Brett Keisel, Justin Bannan, Gary Gibson
    Teams in need: DAL, CHI, MIN, TB, NO, TEN, CLE

    LB- Pat Angerer, Will Herring, Stewart Bradley, Dan Connor, Barrett Ruud, Scott Shanle
    Teams in need: NE, NYJ, CLE, PIT, HOU, OAK, CHI, DET, GB, ARZ

    S- Steve Gregory, Reed Doughty, Jim Leonhard, Matt Giordano, Eric Smith, Cody Grimm
    Teams in need: BUF, MIA, NYJ, BAL, CIN, HOU, OAK, PHI, WSH, DET, STL, GB
     
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  4. woody39

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    Great list Upside, good to keep track of who is still out there and being unfairly ignored!!

    JUlian Edelman contract details are in and at 4 years and 17 million seems a steal for the pats can't believe there was no real interest from other teams apart from the 49ers at that kind of money. £8 million guaranteed over that time period.

    At least we should see plenty of Brady Edelman for a good few years yet and with Amendola and hopefully a fit Gronk and possibly a tight end like Amaro in the draft could be another good year ahead for them!!
     
  5. Don Wassall

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    Read this blurb from Weenieworld, one of the most important corporate media boosters of the NFL's long-entrenched extreme anti-White racism:

    According to ESPN's Ed Werder, free agent DE Jared Allen wants close to $10 million per season. Allen continues to badly overestimate his worth on the open market. He'll turn 32 years old next month and has shown rapidly declining quickness as a pass-rusher as well liabilities in the run game. The Cowboys and Seahawks are not going to be interested in paying Allen DeMarcus Ware or Julius Peppers kind of coin. He's failed to gain any leverage with those hollow retirement threats.

    Ware is also about to turn 32 and was ineffective last season when he wasn't injured. Peppers is 34 and is washed up; he was awful last season, including four games where he had no tackles, no assists, no sacks, a goose-egg on the stat sheet. Allen had a better season by far than both of them, but how dare he want to seek a similar contract. Nothing to see here, move along.
     
  6. Leonardfan

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    This year's free agency seems to have been the worst I can remember. It seems like the NFL is doing its best to retread all these mediocre black players while eliminating white players all together. Almost like its a reaction to the small surge in whites since 2008 or so.
     
  7. Don Wassall

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    I agree. I try not to encourage the deep pessimism some posters have, but the league may be turning back the clock to the very dark days before the modest "White outbreaks" at receiver, tight end and defense in recent years.

    Since most White players who get a genuine opportunity to play in the NFL end up excelling these days, ratcheting up the number of blacks to even more ludicrous extremes looks to be the response, as it is all through society. I went to a Target store and a sporting goods store the other day, and it was a clear majority of blacks appearing on apparel, products and posters. This in a suburban area that is about 1% black and a country that is 12% black. And of course the onslaught of blacks in commercials, sports oriented shows and as authority figures in general continues unabated.
     
  8. Awake in America

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    Too many whites have broken through at receiver and particularly on defense. There have even been a couple of threats at running back. Meanwhile, the quotaback push is mostly failing. They will try to cut back the total number of whites overall in an effort to reduce these breakthroughs.
     
  9. Thrashen

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    Last season, when the Bears were playing the Cowboys on MNF, John Gruden was heaping oceans of praise upon Peppers, who (as Don mentioned) hasn’t been a top DE since about 2008. During the game, Peppers was utterly invisible, and was only credited with a single tackle because he “touched down” a running back who had tripped.

    Peppers wasn’t a total bust of a free agent in Chicago (who gave him a 6-year, $92 million contract 5 years ago), he was slightly above average player. Now the Packers have made the same mistake, overpaying for an even less effective edge rusher who is now 5 years older than when the Bears paid him.

    Anyway, it doesn’t seem too likely that Jared Allen will be signed by the Cowboys…leaving Plantation Pete’s nausiating crew is now the prime candidate.
     
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  10. Thrashen

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    San Diego would be a nice landing spot for Mariani, who was one of the best kick/punt returners in the NFL before breaking his leg...

    Who was the last white WR to catch a pass for the Chargers? Tim Dwight back in 2004? Wes Welker made the team as an UDFA in 2004 but was cut before Week 1 and Bryan Walters was on the roster in 2011, but never played.
     
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    Here is Walterfootballs take on the signing of Julian Edelman. God, can any of our guys get any respect?

    Patriots sign WR Julian Edelman (4 years, $17M; $8M guaranteed): B Grade
    Julian Edelman isn't as good as his stats indicate - 105 receptions for a player of his caliber is insane - but the Patriots absolutely had to keep him after letting Wes Welker defect for Denver in the previous offseason. Edelman became Tom Brady's favorite target this past season, so allowing Edelman to walk as well would have disastrous, as it would have completely frustrated the future Hall of Fame quarterback. New England might be slightly overpaying for Edelman's services, but the team didn't exactly have a choice.
     
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    According to CBS sports, looks like Craig Steltz just resigned with Chicago for another year of riding the pine... Why doesn't anybody want this guy? I'm sorry, but I can't imagine Steltz being any worse than the James Ihedebo's and the Rahiem Moore's that litter seemingly every defensive lineup...


    I really wish the Cowboys would've signed Jared Allen; would've been nice to see him out there with Lee, Hayden, and Heath.
     
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    What is the story with Allen? Some reports say he is signing with Seattle.
     
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    The theme of mediocre retreads this free agency period continue. Vick is going to the jets. I am sure all their dwfs are rejoicing and ignoring the fact they don't have a capable franchise qb on the roster. In a more puzzlingm move the panthers have signed joe Webb to be a qb. The same joe Webb that had one of the most horrendous performances as a qb against the packers in the playoffs 2 years ago.
     
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    Proving the theory that "once you go black, you never go back", the Jets and Panthers are all in on black QBs. Just ask the Bucaneers and Jaguars how that worked out for them.
     
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    Signing Joe Webb as a quarterback is proof that being black is more of a factor than playing well. Joe Webb is a terrible quarterback.

    They probably think he has upside.
     
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    I feel better about Josh McCown situation after seeing Vick go to the Jets. I really thought it was a conspiracy to replace White QBs.
     
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    The Eric Decker signing looks worse by the day. In terms of QB play, he's going from filet mignon to ground chuck. I'd be surprised if he manages half his season totals from 2013 next year.
     
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    Riley Cooper got some play from Vick so Decker may not be so bad as he would with Smiff, but will Vick even play. Strange that the only place that Vick could land is one where the QB is as bad as it gets. Funny how that works.

    The NY media circus and accompanying nutjobs of NY sh*tty were able to bury Tebow's NFL career, I doubt that the dog-killer will get as much negative publicity as the Christian in the world's biggest cesspool.
     
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    I'm probably in the minority but I love the Michael Vick signing by the Jets. Here's my reasoning.

    As we well know, the atrocious Geno Smith was not going to be replaced by a White quarterback this year. Not via the draft and not via free agency. So the next best thing is having the only noteworthy black free agent "worthy" of starting going to the Jets to replace the quotaback. I see it as an admission that Smith is a bum. Rex Ryan must win this year, or be mediocre again, to retain is job. Clearly he wasn't going to leave it in the hands of turnover-machine, mild retard Geno. By signing Vick, the caste-media's "top" free agent quarterback, the Jets acknowledged they had a major flaw at the position and addressed it. Maybe this is the end of the road for Geno?

    Also, this coupled with Matt Schaub being traded to the Raiders, keeps us with an extra White starter. Would we really have wanted Vick to sign there, or with another team displacing a White?

    Finally, Vick is a single read quarterback who, despite his accuracy issues, can put up big numbers from time to time. Look at how last year he locked on to his #1 receiver DeSean Jackson an incredible number of times. Jackson was putting up huge numbers under Vick. As of now and barring the Jets drafting some supa dupa, magical afflete with their 1st round selection, Eric Decker is their undisputed #1 target. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic but Vick could lock on to Decker like he did with Jackson and pepper him with target after target. With his more then fair defense of Riley Cooper after Coop's crime against humanity, I'd also imagine Vick has no problem with a White receiver. Heck, if he has any sense he'd realize Decker is his only hope for success and furthering his NFL career.

    Would it be "weird" if I actively "rooted" for Vick this season?
     
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    I agree that Decker is much better off with Vick behind center than Geno Smiff. Im still waiting to see if Decker even gets to be a main option.
     
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    The Jets still have only what, 3 white starters?
     
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    At the moment, I'd say 4. WR Eric Decker, FB Tommy Bohanon, C Nick Mangold and T Breno Giacomini. It could be 5 if 2nd year guard Brian Winters starts.
     
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    Nice post, as always. Vick indeed is no stranger to white receivers. In fact, every single season Vick has spent in the NFL, there has been at least one white WR on the roster of his team. How many 10+ year veteran QB’s can say that?

    In the early days of his career, he targeted Brian Finneran (who had over 800 yards in 2002 and over 600 yards in 2005) plenty in Atlanta. Little-used Jimmy Farris was also on the roster for several years.

    In 2009, Vick was on the roster with Kevin Curtis during his first year in Philadelphia, but McNabb was the starter.

    In 2010, Vick became the starter in Philly and (then rookies) Riley Cooper and Chad Hall were inserted into the lineup when Maclin and Jackson were injured. I remember him targeting them both when possible.

    In 2011, Vick again played with Cooper and Hall, but both were back-ups.

    In 2012-2013, he played with Cooper and Salas, with pathetic results.

    In 2014, he'll play with Eric Decker.

    Of course, during the great “N-Word” ignominy, Vick exhibited great class when he publicly defended Cooper through the media and then physically defended Cooper several days later during a scuffle (with thug CB, Cary Williams) at practice. Let’s hope Vick assumes the starting job in NY and helps Decker achieve his 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] 1,000-yard season.
     

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