Zach Zenner, Z2K

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Johnson has produced though. Over 2k yards from scrimmage and all pro in a season. Theres much better examples then that one. Not saying Zenner wouldn't have had big years if starting.

I'm not arguing that he has not produced. I am just comparing their circumstances coming into the league. It's an ideal comparison - same position - pretty much identical measurables (Johnson ran a 4.5 to Zenner's 4.6), both very productive with the one obvious difference between them.
 

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IMO ZZ would have been at least average which is pretty good and in total above average because no locker room cancer, effort and assignment reliability. But thanks to the widespread societal hysteria of everyday everyone must play Jackie Robinson Day here we are where good men with outstanding abilities are discriminated against because 1st jews suffer mightily from delusions of paranoia, insecurities and in some cases outright psychopathic hatred and then the usual idiot whites who actually believe the caste nonsense along with the blacks who I often find to be more mature about it than the DWFs and the Bag O Donut coaches.
 

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The Cardinals won't even use Andy Isabella, who was drafted in the second round at a position less taboo than running back, so ZZ has about as much chance of being heavily used by Kliff Cucksbury as he does of winning the lottery. Actually David Johnson is a top five RB when healthy, and Edmonds is pretty good himself. Unfortunately it's a waste of time hoping Zach gets a lot of carries barring a slew of injuries to the "real" backs in front of him (and Johnson at least may be pretty banged up, which would explain the signing of Morris and Zenner).
Morris is the definition of a bald tire, Zenner has to have more in the tank than he does.

Zenner can also play special teams, I have never heard Morris being anything but a running back. With the way the Cardinals backfield looks Zenner could pull a Peyton Hillis in NY and get a contract offer for next season if he gets meaningful snaps over the next few weeks.
 

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ZZ should put the NFL in his rear view mirror and called it a day. He will never get enough playing time to justify putting his body through the rigors of special teams and being a tackling dummy. Put those degrees to good use and walk away while you can.
 

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ZZ should put the NFL in his rear view mirror and called it a day. He will never get enough playing time to justify putting his body through the rigors of special teams and being a tackling dummy. Put those degrees to good use and walk away while you can.
I tend to agree as his mind is elite and could in theory save or prolong lives with a medical degree, like boxing and mma football can do irreparable harm to the brain. I recall John Urschel retiring on the spot after getting a bad concussion.........
 

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Zenner was released by the Cardinals in December. So far he has not been signed by another team. It could be that his NFL career is over, unfortunately.
 

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Zach actually caught on with the Miami Dolphins to end the season, but appears to be off of their roster at this point (according to Ourlads.com). My guess is his NFL career is over, unless he can find a way onto the Vikings roster -- only team that showed serious interest in him back in the spring of 2019, before foolishly re-signing with the Lions. And, at this point, finding his way onto the Vikings appears to be a longshot.
 

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Zenner ran a 4.52...pro day 40 at over 230 pounds ...that was top 5%....a 225 pound running into the 4.4s is considered absolutely exceptional and doesn't come around too often ....so once an RB or tail back is over 230 pounds and runs 4.5s ....he is special ....and the first 10/0 yards are even more important ........Adrian Petersen did not have an exceptionally quick 40 ...but his first 15/20 yards is what made him ....
 

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When one thinks of somebody like John riggins ....and how powerful this guy was ....I can only imagine his first 20 yards .....remember the likes of riggo ran a 9.8 100 yards at over 220 pounds as a high school senior on cinder ....I can only imagine what the jets coaches were clocking him at over 30/40/50!when he first arrived in jersey ......
 

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I can’t believe Zach Zenner hasn’t been picked up yet? Here is a very talented back with good film on tape showing his abilities (heck nearly 100 yds vs GB in essentially his last real game with Detroit). Can only be racism because the likes of Lamar Miller and Kale. Balledge are still employed.
 

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It's a shame Zenner was put through the caste system gauntlet once he made the league and was never given the chance to be the lead back. His ability in college was undeniable and he flashed in the NFL. I can remember 2015 - Zenner with the Lions, Tyler Varga with the Colts and I am pretty sure there was one other white RB UDFA that I am missing from that season - someone help me out!
 

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Us here know he would have been a great lead back! However, we also know that is essentially a white whale scenario (just two in the last 30+ years) but given his success and his exciting tape plus his team attitude it makes me extremely angry he isn’t even on a team as a back-up!

Yet there are countless scrub blacks filling running back rooms...
 

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Zenner worked really hard to improve his conditioning and strength after his first couple seasons languishing with the Lions, but it was all for naught. I agree and have stated numerous times that Zach would have been in the top third of starting running backs if given the opportunity, maybe even higher, but as with so many talented White running backs we'll never know.

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Between him and Gerhart, two of our most talented backs have been black-balled from the league.

If ever people needed a glaring example of the caste system- it is guys like Gerhart and Zenner.
 

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My fear now is also that they will screw over CMac and say he is injury prone so he shouldn't be an every down back. Hope I'm wrong but this anti white league and world never stops going after our guys.
 

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It's a shame Zenner was put through the caste system gauntlet once he made the league and was never given the chance to be the lead back. His ability in college was undeniable and he flashed in the NFL. I can remember 2015 - Zenner with the Lions, Tyler Varga with the Colts and I am pretty sure there was one other white RB UDFA that I am missing from that season - someone help me out!

Ross Scheurman comes to mind....
The Steelers picked him up, of all teams...
Got hurt, and poof.......
 

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Ross Scheurman comes to mind....
The Steelers picked him up, of all teams...
Got hurt, and poof.......

I think that was him! Thanks for jolting my memory. I was thinking Dalton Crossan at first but he was a couple years after Zenner/Varga/Scheurman although he did receive the same fate. Sorry to have gotten this Z2K thread sidetracked.
 

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No I think it is good we keep alive the white men who have been screwed out of playing the position in the NFL their God-given talent dictates.

Maybe it is the stench of the trifecta of big tech, lame stream media and the DNC literally stealing an election (and knowing they will never see justice) that has me in such a foul mood lately, but I am pissed about the white men screwed out of long careers as running backs.

Zenner and Hillis, Gerhart and Leonard, Line and Sharpe... the list goes on. Based on talent alone, we should have 10 guys playing well enough to hit the 800-1000 yard seasons year in and year out.
 

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Speaking of Zenner, I was so disheartened when his younger brother Sam left the program at SDSU....TJ McDaniel should surpass his brother....Prescott Line didn’t match his bigger brother Zach.....I’m rooting hard for Cade Carney’s brother Tate to kick ass in the upcoming years.....Sam Zenner seemed to have it all going for him........
 
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