Vitali Klitschko vs. Dereck Chisora

[devans]

Dempsey, thanks for the links. The one stream I got working was a British stream. Listening to the two buffoon British annoncers you'd think Chisora was winning the fight if you only had the audio. They have Vitali up by only two rounds after 8. I don't know what that guy is that always does the British fights but he makes me sick.

I got out of work early so I managed to see the fight. When I got home it was the third round or so.

Haven't seen or heard the fight because I live in Britain and it is PPV.
It is ridiculous that Chisora is being marketed as "British". He is Zimbabwean and arrived in Britain at age 16. If he does have a British passport I don't understand how he got it. I thought you needed a British grand-parent or something. I can understand how we may need Doctors and Engineers but is there such a shortage of boxers in Britain now that we are handing out passports to mentally unstable African immigrants?

 

[devans]

Just found out this...

"In November 2010, Chisora was found guilty of assaulting his then-girlfriend after finding text messages from another man on her phone. He narrowly escaped being sent to jail, and was given a 12-week prison sentence suspended for two years. He was also ordered to pay £1,500 in compensation and £500 costs and complete 150 hours community work. The court was told that the fighter also had previous convictions for public order offences, assaulting a police officer and possession of an offensive weapon"

He could be knighted soon. Sir Derek Chisora.

 

[whiteathlete33]

Haven't seen or heard the fight because I live in Britain and it is PPV.
It is ridiculous that Chisora is being marketed as "British". He is Zimbabwean and arrived in Britain at age 16. If he does have a British passport I don't understand how he got it. I thought you needed a British grand-parent or something. I can understand how we may need Doctors and Engineers but is there such a shortage of boxers in Britain now that we are handing out passports to mentally unstable African immigrants?

Devans, how are the laws in Britian in regards to deportation? If Chisora has been convicted of all these crimes why wasn't he deported? I've seen people get deported here in the US for much, much less.

Yes, Chisora is mentally unstable but this is the behavior of most blacks. Blacks are violent by nature because of lower iq's and higher testosterone levels. Very few black boxers conduct themselves professionally in boxing or anywhere else for that matter.

 

[backrow]

Munich police stopped him at the airport. they are also waiting for Haye.

 

[werewolf]

Negroes, ya gotta love em!

Having fun "celebrating diversity" yet, Europe?

As for the Chimpsora's criminal record, see my link to the Zimbabwe news article up above.

As for the Munich police stopping the two crazed blacks at the airport. Have no fear, they won't hurt a piece of wool on their heads. Germany is still an occupied country and the Jewish overlords won't let them.

Edited -- read the guidelines regarding racial slurs.

 

[werewolf]

Chisora arrested. Police searching for Haye.

http://www.boxingscene.com/haye-chisora-arrests-bbboc-investigation-warren-livid--49754

Both should be banned from boxing, and maybe now they will be.

 

[whiteathlete33]

I agree, both of these idiots should be banned from boxing. What disgusting pieces of trash they are.

 

[Liverlips]

Just a few points:

1. Vitali won 118-110 on 2 cards and 119-109 on the third. That was about what Dan Rafael of ESPN had. The fight was not close.

2. Vitali broke or seriously injured his left (jab) hand early in the fight and essentially fought one handed.

3. Vitali was never even remotely hurt by Chisora.

4. Chisora is 0-3 in his last three fights. All losses to white boxers. (yes, he got screwed by the judges against Helenius, but a loss is a loss).

5. Chisora is this generation's Oliver McCall or Ray Mercer. He has a chin of iron and is just not getting KO'd. But he is not a top 5 heavyweight (maybe top 10, however).

6. Chisora also brawled with Tyson Fury and tried to kiss or caress Helenius after saying he wanted to have sex with him. Chisora is an amusing buffoon but no white boxer would ever get away with what he does each and every fight.

7. Thankfully, the best English heavies are now white: Tyson Fury and David Price.

 

[Liverlips]

Chisora needs that old white sheriff treatment from the 1970s James Bond movie:

"We 'sho 'nuff got a cage strong enough to hold an animal like you!"

 

[Charles Martel]

Vitali injured his left shoulder in the 4th round, it was more one-sided before that.

http://www.boxingscene.com/vitali-gets-medical-check-left-shoulder-injury-confirmed--49758

So Vitali was basically a one-armed fighter after that, he had no strong left jab and that's why he wasn't throwing it and had to rely on his right. But still, he clearly won most of the later rounds.

 

[Leonardfan]

Great win by Vitali. The jocksniffers and dwfs seem to be supporting this moron Chisora even after this loss saying he is the best thing to happen to boxing in the last 10 years. It kills them to see a white boxer at the top of the heavyweight division and i love it

 

[white is right]

Dempsey, thanks for the links. The one stream I got working was a British stream. Listening to the two buffoon British annoncers you'd think Chisora was winning the fight if you only had the audio. They have Vitali up by only two rounds after 8. I don't know what that guy is that always does the British fights but he makes me sick.

I got out of work early so I managed to see the fight. When I got home it was the third round or so.

Hahaha funny I only listened to the broadcast as my computer locked up from using various things while waiting for the fight. I too thought the fight was closer than what the outcome was. I will have to watch the fight in the next two days to see if this was biased British reporting.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

He also spit in Wladimir's face after the fight. .

Actually as I understand it, that happened before the fight. Not after the fight (not that it makes much of a difference, its disgusting behaviour anyway). After the fight he was having some words with Vitali and Wladimir saw fit to sepearate them.

Dereck Chisora clearly has some mental issues and in all honesty the guy appears psycho, starting fights with everyone and just acting like a wild savage.

To an extent I can understand prefight tactics but his spit at Wladimir was taking things way over the line.

Chisora has mental/aggressive issues and should be medicated for that.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

Some here are being a tad harse on Vitali's performance.

Yes I totally agree. From reading some of the comments on this thread page 3 and 4, you'd get the impression that Chisora actually gained some ground in the fight and Vitali was "winded".

Actually, Vitali never appeared "winded" to me, and for the entire fight he was a good 1 or 2 steps ahead of Chisora. To me it looked like Master VS Student and I thought Vitali's punch land frequency, defensive skills, footwork, and overall generalship really won the fight for him.

Vitali was able to totally outbox and outclass Chisora. Vitali was 10x better technically, the only thing that made this fight "close" at some points was Chisora's youth, aggression, strength. Thats not saying much. Chisora's technique was very poor with his wild right hands, lack of defense.

I had the fight roughly 117-111, some rounds were close but Klitschko clearly dominated the fight.

As I say that, understand that Chisora is a very good fighter. There's no shame in having a competitive fight with him. To be honest I think Chisora/Haye is a 50-50 type fight. Some people in this thread were suggesting Vitali to retire. I think thats premature and perhaps overreacting.

Overall I was quite impressed with Vitali, amazing skill and tactics to win the fight against a very solid opponent. I'd give him an 8/10 for this performance.

 

[Thrashen]

Some diverse imagry from last night's proceedings...

CAPTION: Spitting Upon A Harbinger of Death

CAPTION: Post-Fight Zulu-Minstrel Show

For Diva Gaye and D-Chimpsora, I wouldn’t hold my breath in expectation of some sort of “suspension,” let alone a “lifetime ban,” from the sport. Vince McMahon and his creative team at WWE couldn’t have as effectively crafted these two dastardly black sociopaths, hatched from the squalid womb of Afro-ignobility.

 

[werewolf]

"I wouldn’t hold my breath..."

I agree and I'm not. This gangster-run so-called sport...

But at least they're talking about it...

"Dereck Chisora Could Have His Boxing License Revoked"

http://www.boxingscene.com/dereck-chisora-his-boxing-license-revoked--49768

 

[white is right]

Well we know why Vitali looked flat in this fight he was a one armed fighter. If he were Ali they would talk about this shoulder injury for years after. I think the American press will forget about this injury next week. http://www.fightnews.com/

 

[Westside]

Hey, no doubt Haye detested Chimpsora as we here at CF, but kudos to him for acting on his dislike by "glassing" him. LOL pretty sure that was not fake bottle.

 

[Westside]

What is great is that Chimpsora got an ass kicking inside the ring by Vitali and a glassing out of the ring by Haye. I love it. It gets worse hopefully for Chimpsora. I hope they suspend him for a year. Funny, the media is pointing fingers at him and Haye is skating away as if he a model sportsman. This whole thing with Dough boy could not have been scripted. ROFL.

But I give him credit for coming to fight and taking Vitali's sledgehammer rights for 12 rounds, not an easy thing to do. Just another negro fighter who will be broke in 5 years, ala Iran Barkley.

 

[Westside]

Fudge! David Haye really lit into his mug with that beer bottle! Classic. The only thing funnier, was when Larry Holmes leaped onto a car and karate kicked Berbick for talking smack, and fell down. All time negro buffonary classic moment. Look it up on Youtube.

 

[WHITE NOISE]

Lately, I've been thinking that Chimpsora reminds me of another fighter from the Dark continent.

After seeing him take it in the glass from the Gaymaker, it finally clicked. Chimpsora reminds me of Ike Ibeabuchi.

With time, Chimpsora's out of the ring activity may rival or even surpass Ibeacuhi's self-destruction.

Indeed, he may never get in the ring again, before doing something that absolutely causes him prison time.
[h=1][/h] [h=1][/h]

 

[jaxvid]

A tad harse on Vitali?

He gets bitch slapped at the weigh in, his brother gets spit in the face in the ring, and what is his response? A 12 round snoozer of a fight even before he hurt his hand. 12 rounds of sparring with a guy that is half his size and half his skill level. This is typical Kilitschko and it is confounding. It is one thing to be a machine and another to lack emotion. If ever there was a time to lay an ass whipping on someone this was it. But no, more of the same.

Look I like these guys because they are white and they win. Other then that it disappointing to me watching them fight. A fight should be an emotional event, not a scripted dance. I have said this before, I understand why so many fight fans don't like the K-bros. Too unemotional. It's nice that they win and get very rich but boxing is supposed to have some entertainment value.

Note that this is MY opinion and if you like to see a Klitschko hover around a safe distance away and throw long jabs while waiting to deliver an occasional right--great--you get what you want each time.

 

[Charles Martel]

A tad harse on Vitali?

He gets bitch slapped at the weigh in, his brother gets spit in the face in the ring, and what is his response? A 12 round snoozer of a fight even before he hurt his hand.

I thought it was a good, entertaining fight. In the first 3-4 rounds, Vitali was hurting Chisora and it looked like he would be stopped within a few rounds. But then the shoulder injury happened. Vitali adjusted very well to not being able to use his left with any force.

12 rounds of sparring with a guy that is half his size and half his skill level.

Chisora weighed about the same as Vitali, he's strongly built with thick bone structure.

The difference in skill level is there, but that was partly offset by Vitali's injury.

This is typical Kilitschko and it is confounding. It is one thing to be a machine and another to lack emotion.

They don't lack emotion, they are intelligent, civilized men who've learned to control their emotions.

If ever there was a time to lay an ass whipping on someone this was it. But no, more of the same.

Vitali did his best. Let's not forget he's nearly 41, and consider that he had no jab after the 4th round because of the shoulder injury. And Chisora has a very strong chin.

Note that this is MY opinion and if you like to see a Klitschko hover around a safe distance away and throw long jabs while waiting to deliver an occasional right--great--you get what you want each time.

That's not what they do, watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yARjtcwKL8

Compare what the Klitschkos do to what Holmes, Johnson and Ali did - they just stayed at a distance and pitty-patted for their many decision wins.

 

[Don Wassall]

That's not what they do, watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yARjtcwKL8

Compare what the Klitschkos do to what Holmes, Johnson and Ali did - they just stayed at a distance and pitty-patted for their many decision wins.

Very nice compilation video.

Knowing now that Vitali was fighting with a bum left shoulder, it was actually a heroic effort to still win the fight. It took a lot of guts and savvy to endure eight rounds in that condition and perservere.

 

[Charles Martel]

Here's some quality videos covering the whole fight (no download necessary):

http://www.mmashareforum.com/boxing-f44/-hd-2-18-12klitschko-vs-chisora-t52764.html