To Eurasian Fan

[werewolf]

Eurasian Fan: I'll reply to you here. If you want to discuss the appearance of Japanese and other peoples and the alleged genocide of Jews you may henceforth do so in public instead of by sending me unsolicited and aggressively hostile PM's as you have been doing. I'm not interested in chatting with you in private.

The guy claims to be 1/4 Japanese, 1/4 Korean and 1/2 Polish and to have lived in Japan. The funny thing is I'm pro-Asian as well as, of course, pro-European.



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[EurasianFan]

Eurasian Fan: I'll reply to you here. If you want to discuss the appearance of Japanese and other peoples and the alleged genocide of Jews you may henceforth do so in public instead of by sending me unsolicited and aggressively hostile PM's as you have been doing. I'm not interested in chatting with you in private.

The guy claims to be 1/4 Japanese, 1/4 Korean and 1/2 Polish and to have lived in Japan. The funny thing is I'm pro-Asian as well as, of course, pro-European.



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Himmler, was 2nd most powerful leader of the Nazi's after Hitler. He's the one who genocide Jews however he clearly looks like a Mongoloid compared to hitler and 99% of the German you see.

 

[werewolf]

Eurasian Fan: Wearing round style specs of the type that was popular in Japan at the time doesn't necessarily make a person Asiatic. And no one "genocide Jews". There were more Jews living in the world after WW2 than before (re World Almanac and Jewish Encyclopedia), and that after a totally unnecessary and manipulated fratricidal war that mass murdered 55 million of the very best White people. Furthermore, a large percentage of the very highest German National Socialist leadership were Jewish background themselves, such as Hitler's own chosen successor, Heydrich (murdered by the Allies); the founder of the SS, Maurice; the head of the Luftwaffe, Milch; and Hitler's own personal vegetarian chef. Furthermore tens of thousands of Jews fought FOR the Reich (re Hitler's Jewish Soldiers amongst other sources), including thousands of non-Talmudic Karaite Jews who fought in the Waffen SS....and Werner Goldberg, Jewish was the Wehrmacht Soldier Of The Year For 1938.

Werner Goldberg

So just stick to talking about whether some Japanese people, especially the upper classes, appear to be part White like I said, or not, because you have arguing points there. But don't start with that BS above because you don't know what the hell you're talking about there.

 

[EurasianFan]

No. the Upper class Japanese did not appear white. That is like saying the upper class German appeared Asiatic. Himmler was observed by many race of people WW2 and was accused of having a Mongoloid Hun ancestor. Even among Germans and non-Germans he was considered odd looking and not white enough let alone German looking.

Albert Forster the German Nazi politician who classified Jews as sub-human and extermination had a conversation with another German Nazi Richard Hidlderbrandt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Forster

Albert Foster said : "if I looked like Himmler, I wouldn't talk about race"

And as kid people mocked his Mongoloid like appearance

 

[EurasianFan]

I don't how how anyone can claim royal family look part white that be like saying 9/10 of all Asians in the world are part white


Here is emperor hirohito in his color photo. More Asian looking than a Eskimo.

Hirohito's grandfather, in his real authentic photo. Not your pseudo illustrations

Japanese royal family. All 100% Asian looking and 0% White.

You're trying to claim these upper class Japanese look part white due to Ainu even though Ainu and their ancestors Emishi were enslaved and conquered from the 8th century to 20th century?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emishi


Emishi paying homage to Prince Shotoku. Produced in 1324, based on Shotokutaishi e-den e-maki, made in 1069.​

Some Emishi resisted the Japanese rule in 8th century-10th century.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people



During the Muromachi period (1336–1573), the disputes between Japanese and Ainu eventually developed into a war. Takeda Nobuhiro killed the Ainu leader, Koshamain. Many Ainu were subject to Japanese rule which led to violent Ainu revolt such as the Koshamain's Revolt in 1456 against Japanese influence and control on the island.
During the Tokugawa period (1600–1868) the Ainu became increasingly involved in trade with Japanese who controlled the Northern portion of the island that is now called Hokkaido. The Bakufu government granted the Matsumae clan exclusive rights to trade with the Ainu in the northern part of the island. Later the Matsumae began to lease out trading-rights to Japanese merchants, and contact between Japanese and Ainu became more extensive. Throughout this period Ainu became increasingly dependent on goods imported by Japanese, and suffered from epidemic diseases such as smallpox.[SUP][10][/SUP] Although the increased contact brought by trade between the Japanese and the Ainu contributed to increased mutual understanding, sometimes it led to conflict, occasionally intensifying into violent Ainu revolts, of which the most important was Shakushain's Revolt (1669–1672), an Ainu rebellion against Japanese authority.
Ainu population dropped significantly during these years of Matsumae and shogunate rule. In 1807, officials estimated the total population of Hokkaido Ainu at 26,256. Observations made by Matsuura Takeshiro, for example, illustrate concretely the dramatic decline of Ainu populations caused by epidemic diseases. 47 years later that number was reduced to 17,810 a 32% decline.[SUP][11][/SUP] The Ainu in the 14th century were much more populous before invasions from the Japanese. Some Ainu oral stories, and the Matsumae clan's documents, recall and record several severe battles between the Ainu people and the invaders. After losing several battles, the Ainu people were enslaved.[SUP][12][/SUP]
Meiji Restoration and later[edit]

In 1868 there were about 15,000 Ainu in Hokkaido, 2000 in Sakhalin, and around 100 in the Kurile islands.[SUP][13][/SUP] The Ainu were classified as imperial subjects, whose decreasing numbers distinguished them in public discourse as a “dying race.â€￾ From approximately 80,000 in the early eighteenth century, the Ainu population had decreased to 16,000 by 1873, accounting for 14.63 percent of the total population in Hokkaido. By 1939, they constituted only 0.54 percent of Hokkaido’s population, even though the actual number of Ainu, now heavily intermarried with Japanese, remained about the same.[SUP][14][/SUP]
Metropolitan magazine reported, "Many Ainu were forced to work, essentially as slaves, for Wajin (ethnic Japanese), resulting in the breakup of families and the introduction of smallpox, measles, cholera and tuberculosis into their community. In 1869, the new Meiji government renamed Ezo as Hokkaido and unilaterally incorporated it into Japan. It banned the Ainu language, took Ainu land away, and prohibited salmon fishing and deer hunting."[SUP][citation needed][/SUP] They were regarded as 'extremely inferior races', as one Diet Member had expressed it in 1907 (Hokkaido Utari Kyokai 19902190)[SUP][15][/SUP]

 

[EurasianFan]

So let me get this straight. You want to claim the upper class looked more white due to Ainu blood even though they look 100% Asian but let's assume you were right anyway. Just explain to me reasons


1) Why would the Japanese and the royal family considered " the Ainu " as " hairy barbarians ".

2) Why would the Japanese discriminate the Ainu's during their colonization of their land and considered them an inferior race?

3) Why would they have the Ainu population dropping from 80.000 to 16,000


How were Ainu treated?




Diversity in Japanese Culture and Language

edited by John Christopher Maher, Gaynor Marilyn Macdonald

They were regarded as 'extremely inferior races', as one Diet Member had expressed it in 1907 (Hokkaido Utari Kyokai ).



Why are Ainu discriminated ?



Japan's Open Future: An Agenda for Global Citizenship - Page 23

books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0857286854
John Haffner, ‎Tomas Casas i Klett, ‎Jean-Pierre Lehmann - 2009 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions

" The indigenous Ainu are often victims of discrimination because they fall outside what is supposed to be the norm, and yet they have stronger Jomon characteristics precisely because they have mixed less with immigrants from China and Korea "


" In the views of Japanese people, the Ainu are considered to be more like animals than human. "

" Ainu children are often teased by Japanese children for their strange appearance "

" Some Ainu who can pass for Japanese generally don't suffer as much discrimination "

" A number of Ainu would avoid identifying with their heritage, looking like Ainu or even partially are often looked down upon "




More cruel history of Ainu being treated by Japanese.


AMPO. - Volume 24 - Page 26

"As part of this system, Ainu males are used as slave labor, and females are frequently raped. Ainu anger against these atrocious deeds explodes into the last military campaign conducted by the Ainu against the Japanese. 1869 "

Japanese doctor said " Ainu resembles more like monkeys than humans "


" Japanese government wanted the Ainu exterminated. They brought migrants and epidemic diseases that Ainu had no resistance against it "


Japan's Competing Modernities: Issues in Culture and Democracy, ... - Page 175

" The superior assimilates the inferior, and the inferior is absorbed by the superior" (Kita [1929] 1978, 214) "


Race, Ethnicity and Migration in Modern Japan - Page 302

" At the same time, the government was denying the rights of the Ainu and their traditions, depicting them as an inferior race "

 

[werewolf]

You're the one who keeps talking about Ainu, and you don't reproduce the pictures I showed you of some upper class Japanese, and even some Chinese, people appearing to be at least partly White, and even capable of passing for entirely White. Why don't you post those and debunk them if you can instead of posting pictures of very Asiatic looking people? The White admixture does not necessarily come from the same people ancestral to the Ainu, who do not necessarily appear to be Aryan (that is the northern European or ancient Roman or Greek or Cro Magnon racial type), although some do. As for the Japanese oppressing the Ainu, who may or may not be some part of their blood ancestry, well it wouldn't be the first time that people have done that. One interesting thing is that the Ainu are very heavily bearded and Japanese men are more heavily bearded than are other Asians, aren't they?

As for some people making fun of Himmler's appearance and saying he looked somewhat Asiatic, yes people make fun of other people's appearance, and he didn't have strong facial features and was certainly not classically handsome. Also, yes, there are many eastern Europeans who clearly have Asian blood. Neither I nor most people have the slightest problem with that. Whites and Asians are both higher races and quite compatible.

The Chinese government made a worldwide road show of the Aryan mummies that it had found in China. I caught it when it was in a museum in Texas. I saw this White girl, still beautiful after almost four thousand years! -

 

[werewolf]

Ainu. Some of them look like old Vikings.

 

[Wes Woodhead]

Its safe to say that White people traveled to every corner of the earth pretty damn early in human history. Anywhere there is even the slightest resemblance of a clean, productive, prosperous civilization you can pretty well figure there were Whites there at some point to introduce that kind of life.

 

[EurasianFan]

Why do people like you keep claiming white mummies found in China?
Aryan mummies, Tocharians, Tarim Basin are all in East Turkistan
It was conquered in 1949 like Tibet, go read wikipedia. They were never historically or part of ancient China. The only times they were is when they conquered by Chinese.

Ever read history of Tocharian?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocharians

Ever read history of Xinjiang?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang


That region of white mummies was historically conquered by Tibetan, Chinese, Mongolic people, Turkic people for 1000 years but able to free themselves from foreign rule in the future, they were actually far primitive and lived in houses built of sand and rocks.


Duh.....Ethnic " Uyghurs " are partially descendants of these white mummies that are found in that region because it was never China in the past. Anyone who read history will know. That is a muslim central Asian region that bothers with countries like Afghanistan, Tajikistan.


Descendants of aryan mummies ( xinjiang, aka east turkistan ) so let's cut the crap about these mummies already, just an easy use of commonsense, caucasian because many of them are still are today.

They are muslims
They don't speak Chinese but their own Turkic language with Arabic script
They are in central Asia bordering Afghanistan, Pakistan, Tajikistan
They are Caucasian looking to mix race looking
They have a different tradition and history from chinese
They have a independent kingdom and country separate of China

So what the hell makes them China but not their own people?

 

[EurasianFan]

I have never in my history saw any white person that look like that.

Besides the idea that Ainu were white have been refuted and no longer reliable. Genetic and sciences shows them to be like the Mongoloid and like south India people. They are considered to be either Australoids or proto-mongoloid. Why would you argue against modern western anthropologist who said rejected the Ainu being Caucasoid and showed they have 0% relation with white. Do you really think if they had proven Ainu was White they would deny it? they had no reason to deny Tocharians (aka white mummies ) because DNA relation and skull related with Caucasoid and multiple genetic tests shows they do but they did multiple genetic test with Ainu and found 0% caucasoid DNA, not even the tiniest trace.


What about the fact Ainu resemble a lighter version of Veddas aborigines of Sri Lanka ? related with the non-caucasoid dravidian tribes of Southern India

Ainu and Vedda characteristics: Same body hair, same beard growth, thicker lips than caucasoid, wider nose and wider nostrils. With non-caucasoid skull shape, the only resemblance to caucasoid is their cranial features which can also be found in Australian aborigines even though these Australian aborigines look 100% related with Black Africans. Both are also hunter gatherer.

ALSO YOU MAKE SUPERFICIAL CLAIMS.......


Your pictures of Japanese and Chinese you say look Europoid influence are such superficial nonsense.

Also you're extremely delusional when you said many Chinese and Japanese look Europoid influenced. All the pictures you showed of Chinese and Japanese looks 100% Asian


99.99% of Chinese and Japanese look 100% Asian.

And just like your claim about Japanese being more heavily bearded than other Asians when it was foreigners in the past that said Koreans were more heavily bearded than Japanese and the average Japanese grew only mustache compared with heavily bearded Koreans.



Here are Koreans.

 

[EurasianFan]

Its safe to say that White people traveled to every corner of the earth pretty damn early in human history. Anywhere there is even the slightest resemblance of a clean, productive, prosperous civilization you can pretty well figure there were Whites there at some point to introduce that kind of life.

Well that's strange. So than why was 95% of Europe was so uncivilized and backward compared with every other non-white cultures and civilization except for Africa of course. Why were Civilizations and cultures from East Asia, Southeast Asia, Middle east, Egypt more advance than European white themselves.

Why in a 99% blue eye, blonde hair area of scandivania produce no decent civilization and culture in the past? You're telling a population where 99% are blonde/blue eyes were unable produce no historical significant but did something when they migrated out?

Why only the Romans and Greeks were advance while the rest were described as barbarians?

Fact

East Asia, Americas, Southeast Asia, North Africa, Middle east, South Asia. Especially China, Olmec, Mayan, Aztects, Incas, Cambodia, India, Egypt, Mesopotamia were 100x more advance than 95% Europe. Only Romans and Greeks can rival

 

[Wes Woodhead]

Well that's strange. So than why was 95% of Europe was so uncivilized and backward compared with every other non-white cultures and civilization except for Africa of course. Why were Civilizations and cultures from East Asia, Southeast Asia, Middle east, Egypt more advance than European white themselves.

Why in a 99% blue eye, blonde hair area of scandivania produce no decent civilization and culture in the past? You're telling a population where 99% are blonde/blue eyes were unable produce no historical significant but did something when they migrated out?

Why only the Romans and Greeks were advance while the rest were described as barbarians?

Fact

East Asia, Americas, Southeast Asia, North Africa, Middle east, South Asia. Especially China, Olmec, Mayan, Aztects, Incas, Cambodia, India, Egypt, Mesopotamia were 100x more advance than 95% Europe. Only Romans and Greeks can rival

You really are full of it if you believe all that. :crazy:

FACT
ONLY Whites have proven to be able to build first world civilizations.

 

[EurasianFan]

You really are full of it if you believe all that. :crazy:

FACT
ONLY Whites have proven to be able to build first world civilizations.

I believe in what I see not what people say.

If there was any truth to this nordic or master race. I'm asking why a 99% blonde nation or 50% to 99% blonde hair/blue eye nation was unable to produce anything significant in last 7000 years is only in the last few centuries that they did.


Why wasn't Scandinavia and North Europe produced any civilization that rivaled the civilization that were outside of Europe. When you mean White I'm guessing you believe in the blonde hair blue eye supremacy. The Romans and Greeks described them as uncivilized barbarians and considered the vikings and Germanics as animals, and also described them as unhygienic primitives who eat and drink from the bowls that other spitted in.

 

[Wes Woodhead]

I believe in what I see not what people say.

If there was any truth to this nordic or master race. I'm asking why a 99% blonde nation or 50% to 99% blonde hair/blue eye nation was unable to produce anything significant in last 7000 years is only in the last few centuries that they did.


Why wasn't Scandinavia and North Europe produced any civilization that rivaled the civilization that were outside of Europe. When you mean White I'm guessing you believe in the blonde hair blue eye supremacy. The Romans and Greeks described them as uncivilized barbarians and considered the vikings and Germanics as animals, and also described them as unhygienic primitives who eat and drink from the bowls that other spitted in.

You been watching to much tv

 

[EurasianFan]

You been watching to much tv

No. I'm just using basic commonsense and logic.

 

[Awake in America]

Fact

East Asia, Americas, Southeast Asia, North Africa, Middle east, South Asia. Especially China, Olmec, Mayan, Aztects, Incas, Cambodia, India, Egypt, Mesopotamia were 100x more advance than 95% Europe. Only Romans and Greeks can rival

Aztecs, Mayans and Incas? That's a colossal display of ignorance. They came into direct contact with Euros, and were easily conquered, because they had not advanced much at all for centuries.

During the height of Aztec civilization, Geoffrey Chaucer was in England writing the Canterbury Tales, and in a language that is recognizable 700 years later. Say that back to me in Aztec. Canterbury Cathedral was over 200 years old at that point. My impression is that you think the Aztecs were a lot more "ancient" and advanced than they really were; assuming you thought about it at all. You could just admit that you thought the Aztec were around a lot earlier, and you didn't know what you were talking about.

The Mayans did build some impressive structures during antiquity. Stonehenge pre-dates all of them by at least 2.5 millennia. That means going back to the time of Christ, and not being halfway there yet. The Skara Brae predates the Incas by about 3000 years. Here's the Scots 3000 years before the Mayans (that's a good bit of time, no?):

The Scots are still there, the Mayans are not.

The Incas rose to prominence about 250 years after the Tower of London was built, and shortly after the building of Westminster Abbey. It's still there, the Incas are not. See below for the work of people who were outclassed 100x by the Incas.

Similar to your Aztec situation, you could just admit that you thought the Incas were a lot more ancient than they really were, and that you really didn't know what you were talking about.

My point is not even to compare Ancient Britain to "Ancient" Central America, I'm just showing that you clearly didn't know anything about the subject. Maybe you can make some arguments for some of the others being more advanced a couple of thousand years ago, but you will need to define the terms. Metallurgy? Empire? Seafaring? Architecture? Agriculture? Linguistic complexity? Social Institutions? You will also need to define just who you are talking about. Something more than just LARPing about how people who are either now extinct or live in ****holes are really better than whitey after all.

 

[Wes Woodhead]

The Mayans did build some impressive structures during antiquity. Stonehenge pre-dates all of them by at least 2.5 millennia. That means going back to the time of Christ, and not being halfway there yet. The Skara Brae predates the Incas by about 3000 years. Here's the Scots 3000 years before the Mayans (that's a good bit of time, no?):

Furthermore all Amerindian cultures also have legends of blonde haired light eyed pale skin "gods" that taught them how to build, and prosper long ago. Our mighty race has traveled the world over, civilizing savages since before history was recorded.

 

[werewolf]

Can't respond to Eurasian now because I'm not at a computer, just a tiny tablet, but just his first sentence...


"Why do people like you keep claiming white mummies found in China?"


Well, maybe people like me do that because that's the way the Chinese government billed their traveling mummy and artifact exhibition: “Secrets of the Silk Road: Mystery Mummies of Chinaâ€￾

 

[EurasianFan]

Aztecs, Mayans and Incas? That's a colossal display of ignorance. They came into direct contact with Euros, and were easily conquered, because they had not advanced much at all for centuries.

Your Scott's 3000 years old architecture is a complete joke.

Amerindian Indians had far knowledge of astronomy than Europeans. And many of their architecture looked far more complexed. You can't just use a cathedral to compare.


When Spaniard met the Indians they were amazed by what they built. They weren't amazed at anything from England. And yes they were easily conquered by Spanish because they were tricked by Spanish into making Indians fighting against other Indian in a fake alliance. West Europe became the unstoppable force that ruled the later world. Yet before they were easily conquered just like Spain was also easily conquered by Moors for 700 years. And East Europe was easily conquered by many Asiatic tribes from Central Asia for also 800 years.


What about all these Non-European invaders that had managed to either ruled or made a made in parts of Europe?

Huns
Avars
Mongols
Bulgars
Ottoman
Gokturks
Arabs
Kipchak
Magyars
Kazakh
Moors
Nogai Horde

Every continent and country had it's weak moment.

Furthermore all Amerindian cultures also have legends of blonde haired light eyed pale skin "gods" that taught them how to build, and prosper long ago. Our mighty race has traveled the world over, civilizing savages since before history was recorded.

Hey..... don't go so delusional now

" blonde haired light eyed pale skin " gods " including traveling from the sky, descent upon heaven with a spaceship and had reptilian like faces.

You can't just mention the myth or legend where they said blonde hair, light eyes without mentioning all of them traveled from the sky with a ship.


By the way here are some Amerindian blonde and light eyes albino " Albino gods "

And the funny is in Panana of South America they are revered as gods

 

[EurasianFan]

Can't respond to Eurasian now because I'm not at a computer, just a tiny tablet, but just his first sentence...


"Why do people like you keep claiming white mummies found in China?"


Well, maybe people like me do that because that's the way the Chinese government billed their traveling mummy and artifact exhibition: “Secrets of the Silk Road: Mystery Mummies of Chinaâ€￾

Okay, so because the Chinese government says this crap you believe while other people who simply studied history will say it's not China at all.

There is 4 countries that are not part of China, never historically the same and never historically China only when they were conquered in some time by Chinese invaders.

Tibet
East Turkistan
Inner Mongolia
Manchuria

All these 4 countries that were never part of China


Chinese communist even claims Phillipine and Vietnamese island as theirs. Including one small part of India.

Any look in history well tell you easily


This is the ancient country of China.


The western region of the white mummies, were Tocharian land conquered by Chinese in different peroids

 

[EurasianFan]

China China China............. do you honestly believe what Chinese Communist government says? they only say it's part of China to claim their resources and oil


Ancient China territory. The most western part of China was never Chinese territory, they only controlled that region militarily so that they use it as a trading route to the world but clearly said they were a distinct nation and kingdom from the Chinese.

Why are am I not surprised like you

Don't see the faces of these clear descendants living in region where the mummies are found? even though they live under Chinese rule today but don't speak Chinese, they are muslim and their culture is everything related with people from central Asia. It's ignorant white supremacist like you think it's part of China but even many white supremacist I talked to acknowledge they made a stupid mistake.

 

[Kaptain]

Your Scott's 3000 years old architecture is a complete joke.

Amerindian Indians had far knowledge of astronomy than Europeans. And many of their architecture looked far more complexed. You can't just use a cathedral to compare.


When Spaniard met the Indians they were amazed by what they built. They weren't amazed at anything from England. And yes they were easily conquered by Spanish because they were tricked by Spanish into making Indians fighting against other Indian in a fake alliance.

Amazed by what they built? I think they were amazed they didn't know how to build the things that were built there hundred and thousands of years prior. How does that happen? The American Indians didn't even have the wheel for God's sake. The famous Pueblo Indians we were all taught in elementary school build pueblos and the likes of Chaco Canyon lived in them but didn't know how to build them. i bet they were amazed especially when the Indians told of the ancient enemy people (red-haired giants) that used to live there. Yep, that "superior" Indian culture was just easily "tricked" into wiping each other out by the stupid Spaniard cavemen and their stupid wheels, metal, ships, threaded clothing etc. LOL

 

[EurasianFan]

Amazed by what they built? I think they were amazed they didn't know how to build the things that were built there hundred and thousands of years prior. How does that happen? The American Indians didn't even have the wheel for God's sake. The famous Pueblo Indians we were all taught in elementary school build pueblos and the likes of Chaco Canyon lived in them but didn't know how to build them. i bet they were amazed especially when the Indians told of the ancient enemy people (red-haired giants) that used to live there. Yep, that "superior" Indian culture was just easily "tricked" into wiping each other out by the stupid Spaniard cavemen and their stupid wheels, metal, ships, threaded clothing etc. LOL

Are you telling me you didn't know what the spaniards said about Indians?


The Spanish was amazed by how much knowledge the Indians knew. They amazed by their astronomy knowledge and spiritual knowledges including architectural, artwork and many other knowledge. But was also shocked by how cruel and brutal they were. The Spanish were surprised they offered the heads and hearts to the God.


They offered sacrifices to the Gods.

Oh, okay you just want to believe in the legends that they saw " some blonde hair, red hair, light eyed people even though there albino Indian with blonde hair and red hair. You want to associate what they saw with European or white.


What about all those myths and legend about the reptilians, flying space people from the sky?

The sun gods they describe were blonde hair, blue eyes but came traveling from the sky with spaceships and knew how to shape-shift and had a lizard face. Does this sound European to you?

And yeah they also mentioned Giants of 12 feet tall

 

[Awake in America]

Your Scott's 3000 years old architecture is a complete joke.


When Spaniard met the Indians they were amazed by what they built. They weren't amazed at anything from England.

That's 3000 years BEFORE the Mayans, meaning over 5000 years ago. You are the complete joke. You missed that by 2000 years. That settlement in Scotland predates the Mayans by more time than the Mayans predate us, and half over again. No wonder you are so confused on these issues. You can't get the time periods right.