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I love Richie Incognito. He's one of the few O-linemen we have that is actually worth a damn. Now he is suspended and might not ever play for the Dolphins ever again. F*** this organization! I hope Cogs goes to the Jets and kills the Phins when they play each other. I am so sick of the Caste-ian politics being played around this league. Thats why I haven't posted in a while because I'm just about done with the NFL. Incognito's reputation has been dragged through the mud all because sumo Jonathan Martin's widdle feewings were hurt. Suck it up and be a man! Now Incognito is going be given the Riley Cooper treatment as he committed the cardinal sin of using the "N" word. Like I said, I am just about done with it all. Screw Steven Ross, screw Jeff Ireland, and screw Joe Philbin :mad2:
 

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In the wake of his ridiculous, elementary-school level suspension for “hazing,” Incognito seems to have the support of at least two black Dolphin players…

WR Mike Wallace:
"I know both of those guys personally. I like both of them," said wide receiver Mike Wallace, who added he doesn't believe the team's pranks and hazing went too far. "I love Richie. I think he's a great guy. I don't think he was out of hand. I have a lot of respect for Richie. I wish he was here."

DB Will Davis:
Cornerback Will Davis was similarly complimentary of Incognito, though he added he's unsure of the relationship between Incognito and Martin. "He's a funny guy," Davis said of Incognito. "Everybody loves him."

Incognito doesn’t seem like the type to apologize for anything, especially to a black wimp who tattled on him and got him suspended.
 

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In the wake of his ridiculous, elementary-school level suspension for “hazing,â€￾ Incognito seems to have the support of at least two black Dolphin players…

WR Mike Wallace:


DB Will Davis:


Incognito doesn’t seem like the type to apologize for anything, especially to a black wimp who tattled on him and got him suspended.
Various anonymous sources of front office employees have stated that if Martin had a problem with Incognito he should have thrown down with him and if the bullying didn't stop then go to upper management. I recall a few bullying attempts on my high school football team and guys that were 50 pounds less than the bully attacked the bullies similar to fighting dogs attacking bears and the bullying stopped. It's football not tennis, diplomacy only goes so far sometimes....:grin:
 
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What seems to be getting thrown down the memory hole is the incident that actually led to Martin walking away. The other players (Plural!), invited him to sit at their table, then got up and moved when he sat down. He responded by throwing his tray onto the floor, and walking out.

1) It's pretty obvious that more players than just Incognito had a problem with Martin.

2) Martin is obviously not very stable. He has emotional issues.

Martin is a privileged guy whose parents are both lawyers. There is no indication that he ever sought any help from the staff or front office, or that he even told Incognito to lay off of him. He's also a 300 lbs. man who plays a violent sport for a living. It's not a matter of beating up the bully, it's only a matter of making the bullying more trouble than it's worth. Get help from the organization, punch him, or prank him back in a really big way, or maybe just ask him lay off (or else). Nope, throw a tantrum, and run away. Martin needs a shrink.
 

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it seems like they are ignoring any real story, accounts of veterans using rookies to party at night, highly doubt it is just Richie, if Richie is even involved in that besides a one night thing that is custom in the NFL, Richie was like what, one of 3 White starters for the Dolphins? Reports of players being bled dry, which leads me to leave its drug users like Pouncey, which apparently Richie's dad? is referring to. I am getting the impression that poor ol Martin was having trouble supporting his habit and older team members and if he tried to end his life 3 times then he probably has had seen a shrink.

If Richie hadn't used the n word (can't find if it was er or ga, or whether if it was a text) then it wouldnt have been covered for so long. I love how espn and other outlets kept showing that one quote over and over and reminding us that it was "just a small sample"
 

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Pouncey was recently served with a subpoena to testify at a grand jury investigating Aaron Hernandez. Hernandez is a suspect in some unsolved crimes in Florida including murder, possibly Pouncy was with him or even participated?

Besides what happened to Cam Cleeland (brutal racist hazing by his black "teammates"), remember how it was only White players being forced to submit to humiliating haircuts in training camps there for a few years, almost always administered by blacks? That was a clearly racist practice that appears to have quietly been stopped by the league.

Yeh, it's hard to imagine Incognito being some sort of anti-black bully on an overwhelmingly black team in a league and a society in which virtually all blacks are super racially aware (and often racially paranoid) at all times.
 

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Pouncey was recently served with a subpoena to testify at a grand jury investigating Aaron Hernandez. Hernandez is a suspect in some unsolved crimes in Florida including murder, possibly Pouncy was with him or even participated?

Besides what happened to Cam Cleeland (brutal racist hazing by his black "teammates"), remember how it was only White players being forced to submit to humiliating haircuts in training camps there for a few years, almost always administered by blacks? That was a clearly racist practice that appears to have quietly been stopped by the league.

Yeh, it's hard to imagine Incognito being some sort of anti-black bully on an overwhelmingly black team in a league and a society in which virtually all blacks are super racially aware (and often racially paranoid) at all times.

I'll tell you what happened. Martin was "bullied" but it was nothing out of the ordinary. Just the usual stuff for rookies and newbies. Whitey is taking the fall in this case. I'm sure plenty of other black players on the team messed with this loser and that's why they are all supportive of Incognito. He hasn't ratted anyone out and is taking the fall for this one. Martin probably has a lot of dislike for Richie and that is why he singled him out. I really hope that was his father posting all those comments on the Dolphins board.

Here is what we need to be concerned with. I'm sure plenty of white players are subject to the same, or worse, treatment by their supermen black teammates. The fact that an isolated case of a white on black "bullying" is being blown up makes my blood boil. As I've said many times before, it will soon be illegal for any white person to look at a negro.
 
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Notice how a fair number of black players are defending Incognito? They do not want the NFL to really start looking into this type of situation. Even black callers on radio shows seem to be taking his side (to the extent I can discern what they are trying to say). The only people attacking him are media types.
 

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that fat Arkansas recruit from a while back has some competition, I don't know what ethnicity this guy is, doesn't look White, samoan? indian? too fat to tell

6'4 400 pound runningback getting interest from schools saying they noticed "agility"

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ball-star-plays-high-school-article-1.1521838


[video=youtube;0X9WwxzZ8E4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X9WwxzZ8E4[/video]

ridiculous, I understand maybe a few plays but they should have let him develop somewhere else at another position, this kid is seriously overweight and might not be able to learn a position that he is suited to play in college but looks like he will be getting a scholarship, maybe not a big shools but places like Idaho have already talked to him

edit: watching the video they say he is native american, i see no agility on there, just a big obese kid thats hard to take down if you don't go low, go low and he topples over, easiest thing to do would go after the ball, that thing looks like it would be easy to strip
 
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Dion Jordan was a complete flop last year, as we expected here after he was (ridiculously even for the NFL) drafted third overall in 2013.

NFL suspended Dolphins DE Dion Jordan four games for violating the league's performance-enhancing substance policy. The No. 3 pick in the 2013 draft, Jordan struggled his first year in the league, recording only two sacks in 339 defensive snaps. Jordan put on almost 20 pounds this offseason, and the Miami Herald's Armando Salguero observed it "looked as if he took an air pump and plugged it into his arms and shoulders." Jordan was rumored to be on the trade block in early spring. On college tape, Jordan resembled a cross between Julian Peterson and Jason Taylor. Just over one year later, and he has many symptoms of a huge draft bust.
 

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Dion Jordan was a complete flop last year, as we expected here after he was (ridiculously even for the NFL) drafted third overall in 2013.

NFL suspended Dolphins DE Dion Jordan four games for violating the league's performance-enhancing substance policy. The No. 3 pick in the 2013 draft, Jordan struggled his first year in the league, recording only two sacks in 339 defensive snaps. Jordan put on almost 20 pounds this offseason, and the Miami Herald's Armando Salguero observed it "looked as if he took an air pump and plugged it into his arms and shoulders." Jordan was rumored to be on the trade block in early spring. On college tape, Jordan resembled a cross between Julian Peterson and Jason Taylor. Just over one year later, and he has many symptoms of a huge draft bust.

Many on this site predicted this exact same scenario! Dat upside doe was 2 gud 2 pass up.
 

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Rokevious Watkins - an OL for the Chiefs and Laveon Brazile a WR for the Colts have both been suspended for violating the NFLs substance abuse policy. What great names these two affletes have :lie:
 

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Not a sumo but this moron was already facing a likely season-long suspension before this happened. And you know that they really have to screw up in the ultra-coddling NFL to get a year's suspension.

These pea brains make huge amounts of money but are too retarded to call a taxi or have a "homie" as their designated driver. Gordon was as good as any receiver in the league last year but looks to be following the Justin Blackmon career path to nowhere.

WKYC reports Josh Gordon was arrested for DWI early Saturday morning in Raleigh, North Carolina. Gordon was pulled over for going 50 mph in a 35 mph zone before being charged for driving while impaired at around 3 a.m. The arrest is his second run-in with the law in the past two months after his vehicle received a citation for possession of marijuana in May. It further complicates Gordon's appeal of his impending year-long suspension and puts his career in jeopardy. Gordon has an NFL hearing scheduled for his failed drug test in late July.
 

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Not a sumo but this moron was already facing a likely season-long suspension before this happened. And you know that they really have to screw up in the ultra-coddling NFL to get a year's suspension.

These pea brains make huge amounts of money but are too retarded to call a taxi or have a "homie" as their designated driver. Gordon was as good as any receiver in the league last year but looks to be following the Justin Blackmon career path to nowhere.

WKYC reports Josh Gordon was arrested for DWI early Saturday morning in Raleigh, North Carolina. Gordon was pulled over for going 50 mph in a 35 mph zone before being charged for driving while impaired at around 3 a.m. The arrest is his second run-in with the law in the past two months after his vehicle received a citation for possession of marijuana in May. It further complicates Gordon's appeal of his impending year-long suspension and puts his career in jeopardy. Gordon has an NFL hearing scheduled for his failed drug test in late July.

Maybe this gives Conner Vernon an outside shot of making the team now.
 

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Dion Jordan was a complete flop last year, as we expected here after he was (ridiculously even for the NFL) drafted third overall in 2013.

NFL suspended Dolphins DE Dion Jordan four games for violating the league's performance-enhancing substance policy. The No. 3 pick in the 2013 draft, Jordan struggled his first year in the league, recording only two sacks in 339 defensive snaps. Jordan put on almost 20 pounds this offseason, and the Miami Herald's Armando Salguero observed it "looked as if he took an air pump and plugged it into his arms and shoulders." Jordan was rumored to be on the trade block in early spring. On college tape, Jordan resembled a cross between Julian Peterson and Jason Taylor. Just over one year later, and he has many symptoms of a huge draft bust.

Dion Jordan, what a disaster he's been! Lane Johnson was by far the obvious no-brainer pick at that draft position but our former "brilliant" GM Jeff "I no longer have a job in the NFL" Ireland just couldn't resist "da supa afflete"
 

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Dion Jordan, what a disaster he's been! Lane Johnson was by far the obvious no-brainer pick at that draft position but our former "brilliant" GM Jeff "I no longer have a job in the NFL" Ireland just couldn't resist "da supa afflete"
Scott Mitchell weighs 366 heading into the first week of the Biggest Loser. How a former athlete that weighed 240 pounds could let his weight balloon up to this weight is shocking. You would think at some point after he hit 280+ he would think about exercising. Also all former pro or even high school level athletes know how to do warm up exercises. I remember before football practice we did 20 minutes of stretching and military style jumping jacks, toe touching and other exercises. Truly pathetic and sad that he has to make his life a spectacle for this show.....:frusty:http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ss...Feed:+detroit-lions+(Detroit+Lions+-+MLive.co Ps the whole season is devoted to former athletes that have ballooned up. Zina Garrison now weight 263 pounds?? Of course Damien Woody is on the show and he weights 388 pounds......http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/the_big...oody_scott_mitchell_nfl_zina_garrison-2014-08
 
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Dion Jordan, what a disaster he's been! Lane Johnson was by far the obvious no-brainer pick at that draft position but our former "brilliant" GM Jeff "I no longer have a job in the NFL" Ireland just couldn't resist "da supa afflete"

I can imagine the sane Dolphins fans getting excited that the Dolphins had traded up to grab a franchise left tackle. Instead they get Dion Jordan.

It seems some of these NFL people develop some sort of hysteria about certain black players to the point that they must have them at any cost. They apparently believe they are miracle workers and will single handedly turn a franchise around. So they make dumb draft picks and dumb trades to get the object of their infatuation.

Recent examples are the Bills trading up to get Sammy Watkins in the 2014 draft, the Rams trading up to get Tavon Austin in the 2013 draft and, of course, the Dolphins trading up to get Dion Jordan in the 2013 draft.
 

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Johnathan Martin was cut by the 49ers. He was the totally soft sumo who was "bullied" by Incognito. He should be considered a bust - 2nd round pick of the dolphins - couldn't handle the hazing by his teammates so he cried to his parents. He rarely played last year and should be out of the league now. I still find it hilarious how people defend Martin like he was bullied. This was a 300lb man who couldn't handle another 300lb man. Bullying is not something that happens between adults.
 

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Looks like the Vikings just signed a "native Pole" (LOL!) sumo offensive tackle, with a very "native" Polish surname: Babatunde Aiyegbusi.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/vikings-sign-6-9-351-pound-polish-offensive-tackle-babatunde-aiyegbusi/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nationalfootballpost%2FELDI+%28The+National+Football+Post%29
 

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Looks like the Vikings just signed a "native Pole" (LOL!) sumo offensive tackle, with a very "native" Polish surname: Babatunde Aiyegbusi.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/vikings-sign-6-9-351-pound-polish-offensive-tackle-babatunde-aiyegbusi/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nationalfootballpost%2FELDI+%28The+National+Football+Post%29

Too tall and fat. He'll blow his knees out in a year or 2
 

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Too tall and fat. He'll blow his knees out in a year or 2

I have to make an ultra-rare defense of an afrolete here...because I'm similar size (6'8, 300+). Although, I'm in my 40s & long past my athletic 'prime'. ;-). I'd say he needs to cut down to 320-330 (max), but he's not truly "obese' (ala "Mount Bloaty", Vince Willfork(anything) & Aaron Gibson). He'll likely wash out due to lack of skill, athletic ability & effort, etc. BTW...he's about as "Polish" as I am Kenyan. ;-)
 

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I have to make an ultra-rare defense of an afrolete here...because I'm similar size (6'8, 300+). Although, I'm in my 40s & long past my athletic 'prime'. ;-). I'd say he needs to cut down to 320-330 (max), but he's not truly "obese' (ala "Mount Bloaty", Vince Willfork(anything) & Aaron Gibson). He'll likely wash out due to lack of skill, athletic ability & effort, etc. BTW...he's about as "Polish" as I am Kenyan. ;-)

Sorry Dixie dont mean to take a stab at guys with massive body types. One of my favorite Tackles comin out this year is Havenstein who moves very well for a guyof his stature. Also this guy has zero football knowledge or idea what he's doing.
 

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Sorry Dixie dont mean to take a stab at guys with massive body types. One of my favorite Tackles comin out this year is Havenstein who moves very well for a guyof his stature. Also this guy has zero football knowledge or idea what he's doing.

No worries mate! I was around 255-280 back in my "glory days" & need to get my hide back down there again (ASAP). ;-). While I still have decent strength, power & hand speed (from training MTKB), my sprint speed, vertical leap & endurance are a mere fraction of what they once were. <:-(
 

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No worries mate! I was around 255-280 back in my "glory days" & need to get my hide back down there again (ASAP). ;-). While I still have decent strength, power & hand speed (from training MTKB), my sprint speed, vertical leap & endurance are a mere fraction of what they once were. <:-(
I found this story interesting. Defensive back Patrick Peterson was diagnosed with Type II diabetes during the 2014 season. Considering he isn't fat and should be in the physical prime of his life this is quite shocking. Even if he ate the typical diet of lower class Blacks it's shocking considering his fitness levels.....http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12635447/patrick-peterson-arizona-cardinals-says-diabetes-wraps
 
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I found this story interesting. Defensive back Patrick Peterson was diagnosed with Type II diabetes during the 2014 season. Considering he isn't fat and should be in the physical prime of his life this is quite shocking. Even if he ate the typical diet of lower class Blacks it's shocking considering his fitness levels.....http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12635447/patrick-peterson-arizona-cardinals-says-diabetes-wraps

Hmmm, that's a little bit odd for a young, non-obese, active person to have it. Normally, I would wonder if he's been taking insulin as part of a PED regimen, but he doesn't have that look. Probably just bad luck/genetics.
 
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