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It looks like now, more than ever, sumos' are jumping from team-to-team in the offseason.

That speaks volumes... It's almost like some teams' are acknowledging that there's a problem, but it won't be fixed by more Trent Williams, Andre Smiffs, etc...
 

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Sumos like Aaron Gibson and Terrance Cody seem to be "in" today. Are we to honestly believe that no white man was capable of playing offensive tackle over the morbidly obese 400lb Gibson? Or that no white defensive tackle is capable of playing over Cody? Just wait ten years and I'm sure at least 10 percent of the league will be over 400lbs.
 

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whiteathlete33 said:
Just wait ten years and I'm sure at least 10 percent of the league will be over 400lbs.





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Sounds funny but isn't farfetched at all. I'm still waiting for the NHL to make the switch to 500 pound goalies.
 

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400lbs ain't too bad...if you're 7-5!
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This is an excellent representation of the typical short-stack sumo:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=11673


There's some interesting info on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Young_(American_football)


He tore his quadricep muscle in college. That seems to be a rare injury (to me). His Wonderlic score was an absolutely abysmal 9!

He went undrafted, but he should never ever be on an NFL roster or even near one.



Here's Joe Thomas... A REAL offensive tackle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Thomas_(American_football)

It's good reading. If you want, check out what his Wonderlic score was...
 

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You've got to be kidding me.
The stupid and retard affletes in the league can't get any dumber than this. The comments be the DWFs on the video are just appaling. Whoever wants that ugly retard needs to be locked away.

*Warning* Strong stomach required!
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Some of the comments sound like they are from black women... with names like simplybeautiful and 6footdiva... I wouldn't worry.

Their MO is to "overdo" the "I'm Hot" theme.. because it's usually FALSE and they know it! They keep pushing this theme because they want to eventually start believing it themselves..
 

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whiteathlete33 said:
11 out of 30. LOL. That's just ridiculous. I imagine in 10 years 20 of the top 30 quarterbacks on Rivals will be black.

I know this has nothing to do with sumos, but, as I was going through this thread, I came across this quote. Since Rivals doesn't have their ratings out yet, I went to Scout, and checked their QB rankings. From what I've found, that will happen in a lot less than 10 years.
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I looked, and the top 5 QBs are black, 7 out of the top 10 are, and 14-15 out of the top 30 are! Oy!
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I think these "supa-affletes" fit the definition of sumos...


Baltimore Ravens:


"B-MAC" (or Big Mac..)

http://espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=10307


"R-Hare" (all the way from Barbados; I guess they gotz sumos too.)

http://espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13378


"Mount Cody" (or Prime Condition, as I've never seen a 21-year-old in better shape before.)

http://espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13267


"Kelly-T"

http://espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=11216


They have a few more specimens as well. The team should change it's name to the Baltimore Black Sumo Ravens. The DWFs will think that such a Raven really exists...
 

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Me & my buddies have another name/description for "sumos"...."DFBs" (Disgusting Fat Bodies) or "B-sters"...borrowed from "Gunnery Sgt.Hartman" (portrayed by R.Lee Ermey) of "Full Metal Jacket".
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I found this website the other day and was wondering why you guys think the NFL or the sport in general is racist or stereotypical.....i mean after all most head coaches are white, most media members (reporters) are white, most GMs/owners are white. Ive played and watched football for a long time now and in my honest unbiased opinion ive noticed black players DO make better DBs or RBs but ive also seen white players that can play those positions too. I have a white friend that could dunk his freshman year and he was what.....5'8? I think generally black people are just more athletic though. Im half white half black btw
 

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Im honestly not trolling, im just curious as to why you guys have this perception that the white owned NFL is racist to white players
 

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Football702 said:
I found this website the other day and was wondering why you guys think the NFL or the sport in general is racist or stereotypical.....i mean after all most head coaches are white, most media members (reporters) are white, most GMs/owners are white.  Ive played and watched football for a long time now and in my honest unbiased opinion ive noticed black players DO make better DBs or RBs but ive also seen white players that can play those positions too. I have a white friend that could dunk his freshman year and he was what.....5'8?  I think generally black people are just more athletic though. Im half white half black btw

It's not that black people don't make good football players; but they benefit from the caste system, and especially at certain taboo positions. There are no white feature runningbacks in the NFL nor white starting cornerbacks even though whites are still the majority of people in the United States. Your classic argument that white head coaches wouldn't discriminate against white players is beyond naive. I could find you 30 or so white child rapists let alone people with either a bias or even worse, an agenda. Not to mention the fact that many of the "white" people in charge are Zionists. And white people are vastly more athletic in literally every way with the exception of sprinting, in which we are also quite proficient.
 

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Also, another part of the agenda you can easily see is the hyping up of black QBs. Just look at the Scout.com Top 5. Every single one is black. So when almost every good QB in the NCAA and in the NFL is white, you're telling me that the Top 5 best QBs in High School are black? The caste system doesn't even try and hide this stuff much anymore.
 

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Football702 said:
I found this website the other day and was wondering why you guys think the NFL or the sport in general is racist or stereotypical.....i mean after all most head coaches are white, most media members (reporters) are white, most GMs/owners are white. Ive played and watched football for a long time now and in my honest unbiased opinion ive noticed black players DO make better DBs or RBs but ive also seen white players that can play those positions too. I have a white friend that could dunk his freshman year and he was what.....5'8? I think generally black people are just more athletic though. Im half white half black btw



Why not familiarize yourself with the site first? Caste Football is a treasure trove of information on the Caste System. Coming on here asking questions that you can easily answer yourself with a little effort isn't very impressive.

But just to quickly deal with your point, which I hear and read over and over from those who doubt white athletes could possibly be discriminated against: "I mean after all most head coaches are white, most media members (reporters) are white, most GMs/owners are white."

Yes, and aren't most corporate bosses white, most media executives, and most prominent people in general? The U.S. has had forced affirmative action (discrimination against Whites) for 40 plus years now in non-sports jobs. Who do you think implemented those policies all through U.S. society? Whites. Who is behind the negative treatment of White men by the media? Whites are. Who is behind this country's immigration policy, which, against the wishes of the American people, is designed to make the U.S. a non-white country? Whites are (we'll leave the key Jewish element out for simplicity's sake at this point). Who is behind "political correctness" and other policies in which every non-white group is encouraged to celebrate their heritage but Whites are demonized if they do? Hint: it's not blacks.

If there is affirmative actionagainst Whites in non-sports jobs and constant negative portrayals of White men in the "White-run" media, why do you think sports would somehow be excluded? Every institution in this country is corrupt and consumed with racial politics, but sports somehow remains a virginal exception, as pure as the driven snow, where color blindness reigns? Ha!
 

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Also, for College Football, just look at the teams in the SEC. Not one team in a 12 team conference starts more than 10 whites. The only team that does so on occasion in Vanderbilt.

Even out of the SEC, there are only a handfull of big programs that regularly start 11 or more whites. Nebraska, Ohio State, Northwestern, Boston College, BYU, Stanford, Iowa, and Wisconsin.

There are more teams who flirt with starting an all black 22 each year now. Florida, Miami, and Ole Miss, to name a couple.
 

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Jack Lambert said:
Also, for College Football, just look at the teams in the SEC. Not one team in a 12 team conference starts more than 10 whites. The only team that does so on occasion in Vanderbilt.



Even out of the SEC, there are only a handfull of big programs that regularly start 11 or more whites. Nebraska, Ohio State, Northwestern, Boston College, BYU, Stanford, Iowa, and Wisconsin.



There are more teams who flirt with starting an all black 22 each year now. Florida, Miami, and Ole Miss, to name a couple.

Even worse you barely ever find white running backs, receivers, or safeties on SEC teams. Most of the whites who start for SEC teams are offensive linemen or quarterbacks. Even the defensive line and linebacker is of limits for them most of the time.
 

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Heartwarming story on Yahoo today about this sumo out of East Carolina who did pretty much nothing but benchwarm his entire time with the Pirates and is now a 28 YEAR OLD rookie with the Cleveland Blacks. They ooh and aah about his ginormousness and that he did 39 reps at 225, but don't mention that he can't play a lick. It's all about the story and the ideal affleticism that he brings. For every sumo "story" like this, there are dozens of white lineman with similar "ideal" size and strength, but hey, they're already "priveledged" because they're white. Affirmative Action NFL on display!!
 

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Don Wassall said:
Football702 said:
I found this website the other day and was wondering why you guys think the NFL or the sport in general is racist or stereotypical.....i mean after all most head coaches are white, most media members (reporters) are white, most GMs/owners are white.  Ive played and watched football for a long time now and in my honest unbiased opinion ive noticed black players DO make better DBs or RBs but ive also seen white players that can play those positions too. I have a white friend that could dunk his freshman year and he was what.....5'8?  I think generally black people are just more athletic though. Im half white half black btw
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<div>But just to quickly deal with your point, which I hear and read over and over from those who doubt white athletes could possibly be discriminated against:  "I mean after all most head coaches are white, most media members (reporters) are white, most GMs/owners are white."  </div>
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<div>Yes, and aren't most corporate bosses white, most media executives, and most prominent people in general?  The U.S. has had forced affirmative action (discrimination against Whites) for 40 plus years now in non-sports jobs.  Who do you think implemented those policies all through U.S. society?  Whites.  Who is behind the negative treatment of White men by the media?  Whites are.  Who is behind this country's immigration policy, which, against the wishes of the American people, is designed to make the U.S. a non-white country?  Whites are (we'll leave the key Jewish element out for simplicity's sake at this point). Who is behind "political correctness" and other policies in which every non-white group is encouraged to celebrate their heritage but Whites are demonized if they do?  Hint: it's not blacks.</div>
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<div>If there is affirmative action against Whites in non-sports jobs and constant negative portrayals of White men in the "White-run" media, why do you think sports would somehow be excluded?  Every institution in this country is corrupt and consumed with racial politics, but sports somehow remains a virginal exception, as pure as the driven snow, where color blindness reigns?  Ha!</div>
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Football702, excellent advise from site owner/senior moderator Don Wassall. If you'll dig a bit, you'll find Caste Football is loaded with proof of discrimination against White athletes (especially in basketball & football). We have boatloads of references to document our beliefs here. I'd suggest you look around & see the plethora of facts exposing the (cultural marxist spawned) caste system.

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This articlediscusses highly drafted pass rushing specialists (mostly defensive ends) and how many of them have been utter busts. Interesting stat: "Eight pass rushers taken in the first three rounds last year did not record a sack as a rookie." Clay Matthews and Brian Orakpo were the only two rookie pass rushers who did well.

And this: "Overall, leading up to the 2009 season, 14 other rookie pass rushers did not make much improvement at all in their second season. Some even fell victim to the sophomore jinx and recorded fewer sacks in their second season. Studying the classes of 2007 and 2008 suggests there are far better odds a pass rusher who struggled as a rookie will be just as unproductive in his follow-up campaign. Here's a scary thought: pass rushers who struggled as rookies might not make that leap in their third year either. Are the offensive lines improving in the NFL or has the level of talent on the defensive line fallen off?"

The answer is that most of the best talent isn't being developed, on either side of the line,in favor of an extreme affirmative action policy in favor of blacks.


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<DIV id=storytext>Any NFL fan is aware of the term "sophomore jinx."Â Anytime a player or coach has an outstanding rookie season only to turn around and fall flat during their second season, the term gets thrown around quite a bit.

However, most of the time, when it comes to rookie defensive linemen (especially those who specialize in pass rushing) make a major leap from their rookie season to their second year.

But, I'm not ready to hold my breath just yet. A lot of times, I've noticed that if a defensive lineman struggles in his rookie year, odds are he still won't be much of an asset to his team in his second year.

I understand the logic behind hoping for a breakthrough season in a player's sophomore season. They become more comfortable with the system. They don't have to deal with all the distractions from the draft and have a little more experience handling their newfound wealth. So, all they have to do is concentrate on improving their technique.

But, despite those advantages, it's still not easy to improve from being a nonproductive rookie to a major contributor in the second year. With that in mind, let's take a look at the pass rushers from the 2009 draft. Washington's Brian Orakpo and Green Bay's Clay Matthews were outstanding in their rookie seasons. Orakpo recorded 11 sacks while Matthews registered 10. But, they were the only standouts in their position out of their class. So, the question becomes what can they do next year?

Eight pass rushers taken in the first three rounds last year did not record a sack as a rookie. Kansas City's Tyson Jackson started 14 games and failed to get to the quarterback even once. So, what can fans expect from Jackson and his draft classmates?

To answer that, you need only to look at the 2008 draft class and see how they did in 2009. Every general manager in the NFL is hoping they have the next Calais Campbell of the Cardinals. Campbell did not record a single sack his rookie season in limited action, but had seven in his second year. Campbell credited playing with Pro Bowl defensive tackle Darnell Dockett for his success, but also said he could've been better if not for some "near misses."Â Campbell is the success story that many second-year players will look to emulate this season. But, for every Campbell, there are probably four or five guys like him who don't record a single sack in their second year either. Draftees Vernon Gholston, Kentwan Balmer, Chris Ellis and Bryan Smith from 2008 all went

sackless in 2009 as well.

Truth be told, most guys who go sackless in his rookie season could probably expect to get one or two in his second year. So what is the possibility the rookies from last year who showed some pass rushing skills can increase their output next year? Houston's Connor Barwin had 4.5 sacks last year, Matt Shaughnessey had four while Michael Johnson had three. San Diego's Larry English had two, Everett Brown had 2.5 and Clint Smith got to the quarterback once last year.

Overall, leading up to the 2009 season, 14 other rookie pass rushers did not make much improvement at all in their second season. Some even fell victim to the sophomore jinx and recorded fewer sacks in their second season. Studying the classes of 2007 and 2008 suggests there are far better odds a pass rusher who struggled as a rookie will be just as unproductive in his follow-up campaign. Here's a scary thought: pass rushers who struggled as rookies might not make that leap in their third year either. Are the offensive lines improving in the NFL or has the level of talent on the defensive line fallen off? That's anybody's guess. But, if your fantasy team features a defense with a second-year pass rusher â€" don't expect miracles.

â€" Chad Miller

http://www.paragoulddailypress.com/articles/2010/06/01/sports/doc4c045038911bd024826612.txt
 

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Black DEs have certainly been pathetic in recent years. I watched a lot of LSU games when Tyson Jackson was there, and I didn't see him do anything special. He was the INVISIBLE man!

It's "interesting" that most of these guys weren't even monsters in college, but they still get selected in the first 3 rounds. I've noticed that several of these affletes are still very young, and it's because they don't do jack in college, declare early (for the NFL) and still get rewarded... "UPSIDE" and all.

The thug, Philip Merling, has pedestrian stats as well. I think he was selected in the early 2nd Round. It seems like San Fran didn't need a DL, but they selected Kentwan Balmer in the late 1st Round anyways. This is what they're getting for their money.. http://espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=11263

Probably won't be long before he's on his 3rd or 4th team...
 

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Connor Barwin did quite well in his rookie season recording 4.5 sacks.I hope he works hard this off season and has a real breakout year.
 

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I just wanted to bring-up Alabama's sumo DE, Marcell Dareus, whose being ridiculously hyped-up for next year's NFL Draft.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=482662

According to this, he only had 33 tackles and 6 sacks as a Sophomore last year. 2 of those sacks came against LSUs "affletic" OTs. 2 other sacks came against podunk program - Florida International.

Right now, the "hype" is wholly unwarranted. There are White DEs with superior production, and they aren't even talked about.
 

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He was probably extremely hyped up coming out of high school by Rivals hence he's still hyped up. Numbers don't mean much for affletes. All that matters is Rivals said he's a fantastic athlete and he plays in the SEC aka best conference. He'll most likely be just another bust who should have never been drafted.
 
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