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Anyone who thought we could vote our way out of this mess is crazy.

The powers that be got where they are today through political assassinations, bribery, intimidation, vote rigging and anything else you can name.

They aren't going to give it up without a fight.
 

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More blatant yellow journalism from the Globalist Elite controlled "mainstream" media...

Vicious Ron Paul Hit Piece Scrapes The Barrel Of Yellow Journalism

Kirchick claims Congressman thinks Martin Luther King a "gay pedophile" amongst other ludicrous smears

Prison Planet | January 8, 2008
Paul Joseph Watson & Steve Watson

Another hack journalist intent on making a name for himself in the establishment media peanut gallery is the latest to spuriously attack presidential candidate Ron Paul, making completely baseless claims that the Congressman is a racist and a white supremacist sympathizer, going as far as comparing Dr. Paul to Charles Manson.

On Tucker Carlson's MSNBC show yesterday, The New Republic 's Jamie Kirchick ludicrously claimed that Ron Paul personally called Martin Luther King a "gay pedophile," and stuffed 20 years' worth of "Ron Paul" newsletters full of "racist, anti-semitic, homophobic invective."

Kirchick also spewed idiotic claims that Paul "called black people animals," and spoke at a "secessionist conference" in a New Republic article .

Notice that when Carlson asks Kirchick if he ever heard Ron Paul make a racist remark he says "No." But then he announces: "BUT," he DID attend a conference on secession in 1995!!

Did Ron Paul attend such an event? Seemingly yes. Does this make him a racist? NO.

A fellow attendee and speaker at that same conference, Thomas DiLorenzo , explains just how off the mark the ignorant hack is with this attempted slander:

The proceedings of the conference, which the pimply-faced youth is obviously ignorant of, were published as a book: Secession, State and Liberty , edited by Dr. David Gordon, whose Ph.D. from UCLA is in the field of intellectual history. It includes essays by scholars and professors from Emory University, Florida State University, UNLV, University of Montreal, University of South Carolina, and even a lawyer from Buffalo, New York. It was published a few years after the Soviet empire imploded as the result of eleven separate acts of peaceful secession, which made it especially relevant to social scientists.

In fact, secession remains a lively topic of academic discourse, something that the PFY is obviously unfamiliar with. A few weeks ago a secession conference sponsored by the National Endowment for the Humanities was held in Charleston, South Carolina, featuring some thirty historians and legal scholars. In little Jamie Kirchick's empty mind, the NEH must necessarily be a hotbed of pro-slavery sentiment. (A friend in academe tells me that the participants in this conference spanned the ideological spectrum from left/liberal to Marxist).

Only an ignorant conspiracy theorist like Jamie Kirchick would assume that anyone who studies secession in a scholarly way is necessarily some kind of KKK-sympathizing kook. He knows that Ron Paul will not sue him for defamation because he is a public figure. I, however, am not a public figure.

Tucker Carlson himself acted as if he was somewhat shocked to hear the claims, like he did not know what his own guest was going to talk about. However it is clear that this was another pathetic attempt to smear Ron Paul by the same guy who turned up to a Ron Paul event with hookers and a pimp claiming they were fellow supporters.

Carlson also claims that Ron Paul campaign has recently "apologized on the phone" to him personally about comments made in the same newsletters referred to by Kirchick, something that the campaign would have no interest in doing given that they have already publicly distanced themselves from the writings, 99.9% of which are not written by Ron Paul and have no direct connection to him whatsoever.

Ron Paul's voluminous writings are freely available to anyone who wishes to look. There is not a scintilla of evidence in any of his personal writings that he is in any way shape or form racist. Kirchick knows this full well, but has hand-picked a dozen or so statements from articles not written by Ron Paul to launch a vitriolic guilt by association slur.

Ron Paul is a gentleman, he has served in Congress over the course of three decades and his record does not have one blip against it. Anyone who has followed Paul for any modicum of time will tell you that to imagine him calling Martin Luther King a "gay pedophile" is the most patently ridiculous claim that could possibly be made.

As one respondent to the New Republic hit piece comments, "That's the problem Ron Paul presents to those trying to smear him, you have to go back 20 years and try to twist somebody else's words to try to make him look bad. With all the other candidates you can just look at what they themselves have actually been doing in the recent past and even the present."

Guilt by association is the only recourse for those who savage the Congressman in search of a pat on the head and a job offer from one of the corporate media monsters. Last time out we had to debunk a similar flailing attack when it was claimed that Ron Paul was a secret Neo-Con because he once co-authored a book with someone who went on to become a Neo-Con fifteen years later.

The New York Times was forced to issue a retraction when they printed an article that claimed Ron Paul regularly met with white supremacists at a restaurant in Arlington, Va., a completely baseless accusation intended to smear the Congressman as a racist sympathizer. In light of the fact that numerous people are now considering suing Kirchick for his libelous garbage, we also expect a swift retraction.

The key to unraveling Kirchick's smear is the complete inaccuracy of his central claim - the contention that Ron Paul hates Martin Luther King and advocates the comments of others who inferred that King was a sexual pervert and a pedophile.

If Kirchick had bothered to actually check Ron Paul's voting record (real research doesn't seem to be his forte) he would have learned that on one of the very rare occasions when the Congressman has voted for something that is not explicitly authorized in the Constitution, it was for America to recognize Martin Luther King day as a public holiday.

"In the late 1970s and early 1980s, he voted to authorize the continuing operation of NASA and to celebrate Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday on the third Monday in January," writes Politifact.com .

Why would the Congressman, who is loathe to vote for anything that isn't authorized by the Constitution, go to such lengths to break his consistency in celebrating the contribution of Martin Luther King to society if he thought the legendary activist was a "gay pedophile".

The fact that Ron Paul has also made numerous public first person references, as oppose to 20-year-old articles written by other people, to Martin Luther King being one of his "heroes" is also ignored by Kirchick.

Most of these lies stem from an article that was written by one of Paul's aides fifteen years ago about crime figures and black people in LA - another feeble jab that fizzled into nothing.

Indeed, the very publishers of many of the newsletters that Kirchick alludes to in his hit piece publicly admitted six months ago that Ron Paul had no influence over their content.

"Ron Paul didn't know about those comments, or know they were written under his name until much later when they were brought to his attention. There were several issues that went out with comments that he would not ordinarily make. He was angry when he saw them," said one publisher.

Since Ron Paul is as clean as a whistle and unlike Romney, Huckabee and Giuliani has no skeletons in the closet, the establishment media are forced to resort to the dirtiest trick in the book - guilt by association.

This was not the only appearance the shifty eyed New Republic hack Kirchick made yesterday.

He also appeared on the albino vampire John Gibson's radio show to spew more of his vile lies. In his introduction Gibson admits to having "been after Ron Paul because I think he is a 9/11 truther". The pair then go on to declare the Congressman an outright racist once more on the back of the same newsletters.



Kirchick states, "From 1978 onwards practically every issue is devoted to conspiracy mongering about the Trilateral Commission, first of all when someone mentions the Trilateral Commission in nefarious terms you know they are a little kooky."

Excuse me? This is the same Trilateral Commission founded by David Rockefeller who wrote in his own memoirs that he and his family have been conspiring against the United States. He expresses his hostility to Americans who seek "first and foremost to serve the national interests of the United States." Is any American citizen who opposes this "a little kooky"?

Kirchick continues, "The Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergers, I mean that's like a real out there conspiracy theory".

No sir, the notion that the Bilderberg Group does not exist and does not play a major role in policy making and lobbying was dispensed with by even the most aggressive mainstream hacks years ago.

What have these issues got to do with allegations of racism against Ron Paul anyway? It becomes clear that Kirchick is grasping at thin air.

The pair then go on to make several extreme slurs against Ron Paul, even comparing the Congressman to Charles Manson, by citing quotes they falsely claim are written by him. They even suggest that when Ron Paul talks about "the international banking elite" he is talking about Jews and is therefore anti-Semitic.

They throw in quotes from material unconnected to Ron Paul and mix it up with selected Paul quotations which are taken completely out of context, such as past criticism of Israeli military aggression. The disgusting pair end by calling Paul a "Dirty Bigot" and "Nazi scum".

Kirchick also refers to the farcical "Stormfront Donation" saga which forced the New York Times to issue a retraction last month admitting to several errors in a post it published which carried assertions that Ron Paul meets regularly with white supremacist groups. Kirchick should be forced to issue the same retraction, Gibson and Carlson should also be brought to task for allowing known lies and smear to be broadcast on their shows.

Lew Rockwell has provided a succinct background on The New Republic in wake of the smear attempts:

TNR has a long and checkered history of pro-fascism, pro-communism, and pro-new dealism. Founded to promote the rotten progressive movement of militarism, central banking, income taxation, centralization, and regulation of business, it naturally hates and fears the Ron Paul Revolution. The mag is also famous for having published a slew of entirely made-up articles by Stephen Glass, which it passed off as non-fiction. Through the 1950s it was an important magazine, of significant if baleful influence, but it long ago declined in circulation and significance, like all DC deadtree ops. Long close to Beltway libertarians, for whom its politically correct left-neoconism is fine and dandy, TNR once published a cover story literally comparing Ross Perot to Adolf Hitler when he was running for president. That is the publication's style--hysterical smears aimed at political enemies.

Ron Paul is a hero. He stands for uncompromised integrity and unwavering adherence to the core principles of the Constitution. He also represents real Republican principals, which is why he is coming under so much attack from neoconservatives and their bootlicking media whores, who rightly recognize him and the reach of his message as the greatest threat to their usurpation of the Republican party and the values of America as a whole.

RON PAUL'S RESPONSE

Ron Paul has already responded to these ridiculous accusations and slammed them as political haymaking to coincide with the New Hampshire primary.

"The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed. I have never uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts.

In fact, I have always agreed with Martin Luther King, Jr. that we should only be concerned with the content of a person's character, not the color of their skin. As I stated on the floor of the U.S. House on April 20, 1999: �I rise in great respect for the courage and high ideals of Rosa Parks who stood steadfastly for the rights of individuals against unjust laws and oppressive governmental policies.'

This story is old news and has been rehashed for over a decade. It's once again being resurrected for obvious political reasons on the day of the New Hampshire primary.

When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name."

Judging by the deluge of comments that slam Kirchick's hit piece for what it is, the majority remain impervious to this recycled trash.

Another clue to Kirchick's completely disingenuous agenda is the fact that he approached Alex Jones to be interviewed for the New Republic article by claiming he was "doing a story on the momentum behind the Ron Paul for President campaign". In a telephone conversation he also claimed that the article "wasn't a hit piece" when repeatedly asked by Jones.

At the end of Kirchick's piece, he takes an Alex Jones quote astronomically out of context by claiming Alex says the elite want to develop themselves into "superhuman" computer hybrids able to "travel throughout the cosmos". The fact that Jones himself is paraphrasing the dreams of transhumanists in clarifying their agenda as bizarre and elitist is not explained by Kirchick who, in attributing the quote directly to Jones, attempts to associate him with its incredulity.

As one respondent accurately summarizes, "So where's the evidence? Like some photocopies of the actual newsletters? I'm not familiar with any of Ron Paul's newsletters but I am familiar with Alex Jones and your description of Endgame is completely spun so it puts your entire article into question. Alex Jones has interviewed many famous figures that do not share his views. So what? If you can't present some evidence then how do we know that you haven't taken these excerpts completely out of context? It's hard to trust any attack on Ron Paul's character coming from a Neoconservative publication like yours that vigorously defends any criticism of the precious war in Iraq and "global war on terror". Furthermore, it's very difficult to align your allegations with the character of Ron Paul that is presented in his countless speeches, interviews and books. Not a trace of any bigotry and he has many times directly attacked the idea of collectivism that leads to bigotry."

***Reference article..
[url]http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/ron_paul_hit_piece_scrap es_barrel_yellow_journalism.htm [/url]
 

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Was MLK a gay pedophile? He certainly was a pervert. Open up the sealed documents and let us see.

I also have trouble with Dr. Paul supporting a vote on a holiday for him. Where's that in the Constitution? Or does Paul not defer to the Constitution on matters of race?

And the remarks about criminal activity of blacks in inner cities was spot on and is supported by the numbers as well as painfully obvious to evryone that lives there. Just because the MSM wants to hide their heads in the sand doesn't mean Paul should.

But I'm glad Paul is playing it safe and and not knocking the PC boat, it will ensure a fourth or fifth place finnish in his run for the presidency, which is just what the MSM wants.
 

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The first time to my knowledge that CNN's website has ever featured Ron Paul as a headline (THE main headline actually): "Ron Paul Literature Ranted Against Blacks, Gays"

The first time they've mentioned him as more than a footnote they choose to lead with this tripe. Sad.
 

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Dr. Paul will get hit for the comments he just made about the Iran policy during the debate. He attacked the "agressive policy" when the other candidates agreed with the "passive policy" that the Navy had with the gunboats. He was laughed at quite a bit after that by the other candidates and some in the crowd.
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The smear job on Ron Paul has caused irreparable damage to his campaign. His recent statementswill not assuage his enemies and have served only to alienate many of his supporters.He's been under a well coordinated attack for some time from the usual suspects, but this latest hit-piece could very well be his coupe de grace.


Andthe pen wielding assassin who wrote the article?Is he above scrutiny?Whatfloats his boat?A Google search for Jamie Kirchick produced much information.A flaming poofter hack.


One item: [url]http://www.indegayforum.org/news/show/31319.html[/url]
<H3 =top>Tolerantâ€â€￾Except on Dates</H3>
by James Kirchick





First published in the Boston Globe Magazine, August 5, 2007


"I can't date someone with a different belief system" is what he told me. I expected this answer from the guy I had been casually seeing. From early on, I suspected that our differing political bents â€â€￾ his liberal, mine more conservative â€â€￾ would ultimately cause a split. Once, we had a heated argument when I said offhandedly that people who could not afford to care for children should not have them (not a policy prescription, just a profession of personal ethics). After that, I tried to avoid political discussions altogether. So his answer did not come as much of a surprise when, a few weeks after we broke up, I asked him for his reasons. His beliefs euphemism didn't render the blow any softer: We're both Jewish.


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Colonel_Reb said:
Dr. Paul will get hit for the comments he just made about the Iran policy during the debate. He attacked the "agressive policy" when the other candidates agreed with the "passive policy" that the Navy had with the gunboats. He was laughed at quite a bit after that by the other candidates and some in the crowd.
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Actually I thought that was his best response. He was laughed at because again one of the commentators started a huge belly laugh spurning the audience sheeple to laugh like trained seals.

Brit Hume is an idiot. He claimed all the responses were "passive." I'll sum up (paraphrase) what was actually said about the Iran incident:

Mike Huckabee: "they'll look down our cannons and we'll blow them to a Hell they couldn't imagine"

Fred Thompson: "Maybe we'll introduce them to those virgins"

How are these comments passive? How has the Fox and the neocon medias response been passive? The question itself was not passive. The question actually questioned if the ship's commander acted responsibly by not blowing them up.

Don't let Brit Hume and the sheeple spin this one.
 

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Ron Paul needs to start attacking. He is losing the illegal immigration debate because he is talking about economics instead of his actually policy of deporting illegals, cutting off welfare to them, and ending illegal birthright citizenship. He has let the other liars and flip-floppers to steal this important issue from them. Come on, he is being attacked by all of them on stage and doesn't attack back. For God's sake John McCain was allowed to act as if he wasn't for amnesty when he wrote the amnesty bills!

He needs to attack and quit talking about economic/monetary policy - his supporters get this. He needs to go after the lesser minded voters.

I've emailed Ron Paul about this and I encourage everyone on this site to do the same. Here is his email address: mail@ronpaul2008.com

Playing nice with scum will get you no where.
 

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Nevada,

As I've said before, if I knew for certain who the games were being fixed for, I'd be able to make a fortune. I also said that I'd be happy to be wrong about Gibbs, and I am. Not that he's retired again, I'm even happier. Just because I can't always predict the winners doesn't make my points about why I believe it's fixed any less valid.

Even if the votes are honestly counted (and I think it's pretty clear they aren't), we're all being naive if we think the establishment will ever let a Ron Paul win the presidency. Bart's post regarding Kirchick's background is illuminating; this guy, like so many mainstream journalists, has an agenda that would be destroyed by someone like Ron Paul. Many of the talking heads and network executives are ex-aides to mainstream politicians, usually Democrats. Chris Matthews, for instance, was a long time aide to ex-House Speaker Tip O'Neill. ABC's Jeff Greenfield was an aide to different Democratic party political figures. The airways are cluttered with ex-Clinton aides like James Carville and George Stephanopolous. Do we really expect these people not to attack someone like Ron Paul, who represents everything they hate in a politician?

EVERY television journalist is opposed to the ideas of a Ron Paul. It's just part of their job, which consists of being mouthpieces for the corrupt ruling order.
 

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Yes, James Kirchick is flaming gay zionist. Interestingly the person he quoted as his source as a former Ron Paul supporter, Dan Koffler, is also a Jewish Zionist. And they say they don't have influence in the media. Edited by: Kaptain Poop
 

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Maybe I misunderstood what Dr. Paul was saying, but either way, he came off looking confused to the masses, and that is what I'm concerned about. Personally, I liked his response about caution, because it isn't worth starting WWIII over. In this war-mongering society though, a lot of people will see that as weakness. I agree with you Kaptain about him needing to get away from the economic argument so much, and connect with the sheeple. They will have to wake up for there to be any chance for him to win.
 

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White Shogun said:
We're going to hell in a hand basket fast. Nothing is as it seems. Voter fraud is rampant everywhere.

Sutton County official admits Ron Paul votes not counted.

I heard on the radio today that out of state voters were being bussed into New Hampshire to vote in the primary. Apparently, New Hampshire law allows a person to show up and register the day of the primary and vote, simply by vowing they plan to live in the state some day.

Hacked voting machines

But there are no cpnspiracies, right nevada?

I don't know how anyone can believe that election fraud is not rampant in every district of the Union. To believe otherwise is simply naive.



Has the MSM picked up on any of this? Has Paul voiced his concern over the voting fraud?
 

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i googled Ron Paul, and it's nowhere on google's news page regarding him. however, they still have numerous "news" stories about how racist Ron Paul is, regardless of all the facts that refute the yellow journalism.
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I listened to The Political Cesspool last night. The feed kept going out, but I heard the host, James Edwards, being very critical of Ron Paul, whom Edwards has supported strongly.

Regarding the newsletter and the comments about MLK, Edwards said something like, "If Ron Paul claims he didn't know what was being printed on a political newsletter sent out of his own office, he's lying." Edwards added that "Paul is mealy-mouthed and rarely shows any emotion." Edwards still supports Ron Paul, but is disappointed that he caved in like Trent Lott and others.
 

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sport historian said:
I listened to The Political Cesspool last night. The feed kept going out, but I heard the host, James Edwards, being very critical of Ron Paul, whom Edwards has supported strongly.

Regarding the newsletter and the comments about MLK, Edwards said something like, "If Ron Paul claims he didn't know what was being printed on a political newsletter sent out of his own office, he's lying." Edwards added that "Paul is mealy-mouthed and rarely shows any emotion." Edwards still supports Ron Paul, but is disappointed that he caved in like Trent Lott and others.


I was on James' show last night and defended Ron, and also talked about Caste Football for a while.
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Unfortunately the interview was only about a half hour, wish it would have been longer.


I think the disappointment over Paul's recent remarks reflects the fact that every time somone comes under some heat in this country for something having to do with race they capitulate, and Paulalso seems to have done so.My point on the show was that Paul has never really been a racialist, that these newsletters were the exception to how he's presented himself during his long political career, and that his is a broad-based coalition that is anti-NWO in orientation rather than racialist and that it's better for racially aware whites to stay at the table with his movement if we're to have any chance of survival down the road rather than dropping out because he represents the only powerful opposition to the regime we have. The "Ron Paul Revolution" is much bigger than Ron Paul and we're part of it and will have only ourselves to blame if we withdraw from it.


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What is "The Political Cesspool" and where do you go to hear it? Don, if I would have known about you being on, I would have tuned in. I imagine others would have as well. I really do hope we can somehow get a regular or semi-regular CF segment or show on the net.
 

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James Edwards does a very good job with this program. He's on for two hours M-F out of a Memphis station and has also recently picked up affiliates through the Dixie Broadcasting Radio Network. He's been on Paula Zahn's CNN show twice and has been attacked by the ADL and the SPLC so you know he stands for America.
 

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Thanks for the link Don! I've never heard of Mr. Edwards before, but if he's on Dixie Broadcasting, he must be good. I used to listen to that network a lot. Now I'll be checking out their schedule for more changes. I'm listening to the archived broadcast from last night right now. This makes my 30th a little better!
 

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James is only about the same age as you, Reb, and has already been doing his show for a while now. He's a real asset to the Cause.
 

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WOW! I'm impressed with the show. Very upbeat and positive. Nice segment too Don!
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I listened to the show earlier today. I can't believe that kind of open and frank talk is permitted on the air. In Canada here, the CRTC would shut that down in a day.
 
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