I believe it's going to get ugly, very ugly. The problem is that even if immigration completely halts, the landscapes of countries like Germany and France are forever changed because of the immigration that has already occured. In 50 years or so, Europe will probably be exactly what we fear it will be. There is no reason to believe it won't. The same goes for the US. A lot of whites in the US don't seem to care or don't want to recognize that we are quickly moving towards being the minority. Once whites are the minority and start getting voted out of positions of power in Europe and the US, these countries will decline rapidly. Basically the immigrants with 5, 6 or even 8 times the birth rates of whites will be running the countries and there is no reason to believe they will run them any differently than the horrible countries from which they originally came. Once we become the minority and our backs are against the wall is when things will truly get ugly in my opinion or perhaps just before that happens. The question in my mind is where will proud whites move to when they have had enough and no longer want to live around all these immigrants? Maybe Hungary, poland or some place like Iceland?