Deadlift
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He had a great game, going 13-20 for 155 yards and 2 TD throws.
I have high hopes for him and I'm confident he'll do great things.
I have high hopes for him and I'm confident he'll do great things.
QB Brady Quinn
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The single-minded herd of white "pundits" and fans decided Quinn was a bust and Jamarcus Russell was The Next Big Thing even before the NFL Draft in April.
Speaking of which, why so little media coverage of Russell's continuing holdout? Quinn's relatively short holdout was played up daily, replete with details of how the Cleveland fans were getting angrier by the minute, while Russell's holdout has gone on far longer withmuch lessmedia interest.
Speaking of which, why so little media coverage of Russell's continuing holdout? Quinn's relatively short holdout was played up daily, replete with details of how the Cleveland fans were getting angrier by the minute, while Russell's holdout has gone on far longer withmuch lessmedia interest.
I wonder what kind of effect Quinn's early success will have on Russell? Will it shame him into getting into camp? Nice picture of Quinn on CNNSI right now. Kid's arms are friggin' ripped.
I'm glad that he (Quinn) had a great first outing. The caste jackals would have piled on if he hadn't.
I'm glad that he (Quinn) had a great first outing. The caste jackals would have piled on if he hadn't.
Doc Holliday
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Brady Quinn looked real good yesterday. Was playing against 4th stringers but was also playing WITH 4th stringers.
Another guy who looked real good was Ken Dorsey. He had 1 drive before Quinn came in & marched the Browns also to a touchdown. Dorsey was awesome at Miami(College) but never really has had a chance in the NFL. He played for the 49ers when they sucked & the knock on him is his arm strength isn't much. Well, he's gained 30lbs since his college days & seemed to have plenty of arm strength yesterday. I think he could be a real sleeper QB if given a chance.
Another guy who looked real good was Ken Dorsey. He had 1 drive before Quinn came in & marched the Browns also to a touchdown. Dorsey was awesome at Miami(College) but never really has had a chance in the NFL. He played for the 49ers when they sucked & the knock on him is his arm strength isn't much. Well, he's gained 30lbs since his college days & seemed to have plenty of arm strength yesterday. I think he could be a real sleeper QB if given a chance.
Deadlift
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Great posts and a great picture of Brady Quinn.
As stated by Poacher, Brady went in and did what he had to do.
Because the anti-White vitriol is so strong these days, it tells me that the enemy is a lot weaker than they would have us believe. They are like the loud and vicious injured animal that is trapped in a corner. The internet, and it's ability to be an educational and communicational tool, has really opened things up.
They have been wounded. The most blatant anti-White losers in the "sports press" simply "predict" White failure and Negro success. They could not care any less about legitimate competition in sports; all they really care about is their racial engineering. I think people have gotten tired of these big-mouthed, "psychic" sports idiots.
Lastly, there is a huge connundrum for those that promote the black as an athletic superman. Wouldn't you think they would like us to see "superior" black WRs routinely "posterize" White corners and safeties? But alas, they are deathly afraid of White vs Negro competition; they truly are.
The White DT is an endangered species. If one looks at the projected starters for the college football teams in the college football section of this forum, so many blacks are projected to start at LT and a lot are projected to start at RT. This, coupled with the media attack on OT Robert Gallery, tells me that the White OT is soon to be an endangered species as well. When they, in lock-step fashion, criticize a White player, it's important to see the bigger racial picture. Black players and coaches almost never get negative criticism by them.
The above segways nicely to my next point. How does getting rid of the White... PROVE that the black is an athletic superman? Imagine the summer and winter Olympics... and Europe not being allowed to participate. This would lock-out tons of superb White athletes, who hail from a continent that has the largest concentration of White people. Needless to say, the black and the asian would win a lot more medals.
Speaking of an even darker league. How do blacks playing against blacks -- and blacks setting records against blacks (sack records, receiving records, interception records, injury records?) -- prove anything? We WANT to see many talented Whites at CB, SS, FS, RB, WR, DE, DT and OT.
Sure, wealth transfer is a part of their plan, and the other part is their "glorification and worship" of the black "superman"
They only succeed if we believe the league demographics are built on even the slightest amount of honesty.
Edited by: Deadlift
As stated by Poacher, Brady went in and did what he had to do.
Because the anti-White vitriol is so strong these days, it tells me that the enemy is a lot weaker than they would have us believe. They are like the loud and vicious injured animal that is trapped in a corner. The internet, and it's ability to be an educational and communicational tool, has really opened things up.
They have been wounded. The most blatant anti-White losers in the "sports press" simply "predict" White failure and Negro success. They could not care any less about legitimate competition in sports; all they really care about is their racial engineering. I think people have gotten tired of these big-mouthed, "psychic" sports idiots.
Lastly, there is a huge connundrum for those that promote the black as an athletic superman. Wouldn't you think they would like us to see "superior" black WRs routinely "posterize" White corners and safeties? But alas, they are deathly afraid of White vs Negro competition; they truly are.
The White DT is an endangered species. If one looks at the projected starters for the college football teams in the college football section of this forum, so many blacks are projected to start at LT and a lot are projected to start at RT. This, coupled with the media attack on OT Robert Gallery, tells me that the White OT is soon to be an endangered species as well. When they, in lock-step fashion, criticize a White player, it's important to see the bigger racial picture. Black players and coaches almost never get negative criticism by them.
The above segways nicely to my next point. How does getting rid of the White... PROVE that the black is an athletic superman? Imagine the summer and winter Olympics... and Europe not being allowed to participate. This would lock-out tons of superb White athletes, who hail from a continent that has the largest concentration of White people. Needless to say, the black and the asian would win a lot more medals.
Speaking of an even darker league. How do blacks playing against blacks -- and blacks setting records against blacks (sack records, receiving records, interception records, injury records?) -- prove anything? We WANT to see many talented Whites at CB, SS, FS, RB, WR, DE, DT and OT.
Sure, wealth transfer is a part of their plan, and the other part is their "glorification and worship" of the black "superman"
They only succeed if we believe the league demographics are built on even the slightest amount of honesty.
Edited by: Deadlift
Angelcynn
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Brady Quinn has the chance to show that white QB's are the best despite better opportunities for black QB's and racially biased views from football pundits. Brady being drafted so low in the draft could well work in our favour because it will prove not to underestermate the white QB again. Fingers crossed Russell completely blows it, we know Quinn won't!
Bear Backer
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TheEnglishman said:
This is just my take on it, but I think Jamarcus (Jamarkus) Russell however you spell his name has the potential to be the best qb of the young black bunch (IF! and it is a big if, he can get in shape and not be such a fat slob during his career and survive in Oakland). From what I saw of him in college he has some tools to succeed in the NFL at least somewhat, but he has alot of question marks and needs for improvement too, like learning not to rifle the ball all the time or force passes (seems like a re emerging theme with all these black QB's.) One of the reason's I think he could be better than Vince Young, is that Vince Young seems to suffer from the same sydrome that seemingly everyone of these black QB's who can run are cursed with. They lose their compsure, cant process all the information in the pocket as quickly as they must which then leads them to break protection and tend to run first and throw second. You just cannot succeed in the NFL over a long period of time with that attitude. You will either get injured or opposing defenses will quickly figure you out and you will be rendered ineffective like Michael Vick. Where Russel differs is that he is not fast at all. He is a bit shifty in the pocket, but he is primarily a pocket passer (because he has to be) who was sacked very few times in the SEC. He could be a better version of Leftwich. That is not saying much, but I think he has the potential to be a serviceable QB in the NFL. He could possibly be someone like a Drew Bledsoe, but he is not the Black Superman caste system dream. They will most likely quickly grow tired of him like they also did strong armed Aaron Brooks, when he doesn't live up to their unattainable goal of completely redefining the QB position, destroying the evil old (successful) white pocket passer in the process. I believe Brady Quinn will be much more successful in the longrun than Russell, if by nothing more than keeping himself in better shape and having more to prove. Russell also plays for Al Davis. God help anyone who plays for that Franchise now days, they need surely need it. Edited by: Bear Backer
Doc Holliday
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Bear Backer said:
The biggest problem I see with Jamarcus Russel is that he's dumb as a rock. He can't read a defense. Kerry Collins was big with a powerful arm & dominated college at Penn STate but was never a good NFL Qb, he had 1 or 2 yrs where he was good but that's it, he can't read a defense & his thought process is too slow, same with Jamarcus Russell, I think Russell will suck, he'll be the black Kerry Collins IMO.
Biggest problem with Vince Young is that he shot-puts his throws. He threw more interceptions than touchdowns last year & I don't ever see Vince Young being a very good QB either. When he checks down his options combined with that shot put throw his passes come too late, he may get away with that in college but in the pro game the DB's are simply too fast.
Brady Quinn doesn't take pressure too well, never has, will he ever?.. I dunno!..
Brian Brohm IMO if he can stay healthy will be a million times better than Vince Young, Jamarcuss Russel, & Brady Quinn. IMO Brian Brohm is the best QB I've seen in YEARS!!
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Take the worst attributes of Byron Leftwich (no touch, throws everything too hard and high) and Vince Young (borderline retarded), put them together in one package and you have Jamarcus Russell. I saw eight of his games during his LSU career. His body saved him every time he did something stupid. He's just incredibly difficult for college kids to tackle. Over time he developed a confidence that made him calm in the pocket and allowed him to use what little brain power he had to make his reads and throws. After his first few backside hits from an NFL defensive end, that confidence will be shattered. He'll have to fall back on his passing skill, which is only average. I'm not going to predict doom and gloom for him. It's always possible to tailor an offense to fit his attributes, but I doubt the Raiders will be willing to spend several years figuring out what works best for him.
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Quinn also has a great work ethic, something Russell does not have.
Bear Backer
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Doc Holliday said:
Yes I think Kerry Collins is a better comparrison. Both had rocket arms coming out of college and similar question marks. I was looking for the right modern QB to compare Russell to and forgot about Collins. I chose Bledsoe, because he had alot of hopes placed on him, and despite putting up some decent numbers he did struggle at times and have unnecessary picks from trying to force passes. Collins may have even been in a better situation with the expansion Panthers than Russell with the horrible Raiders. I am not as down on Kerry Collins as many are. He is not great, but he is a serviceable NFL QB, and a pretty solid backup.
I agree somewhat about Brohm too. He is very skilled and is probably one of the most accurate college QB's I have ever seen. I thought he should have come out in 2007 because the class was so weak. It is admirable that he stayed on for his senior season at Louisville, but he could have probably made a strong case for himself at the combine for being the top QB in the draft. Now he is going to have much more competition in the draft from guys like Chad Henne, John David Booty, Erik Ainge and Colt Brennan( if teams are not scared off by his small frame).Edited by: Bear Backer
okra63
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Everyone "knows" a white man is a better quarterback. For the most part they have a higher education (which is changing) and don't let their fame and fortune go to their heads and think they are above the law (Michael Vick).
The only black quarterback I know of who hasn't been a complete flop is Steve McNair of the Baltimore Ravens.
Brady Quinn will be another Joe Montana if keeps on having outings like the one he had this past weekend. I believe Brady was screwed in the draft and he was hands down the best quarterback in the draft.
The only black quarterback I know of who hasn't been a complete flop is Steve McNair of the Baltimore Ravens.
Brady Quinn will be another Joe Montana if keeps on having outings like the one he had this past weekend. I believe Brady was screwed in the draft and he was hands down the best quarterback in the draft.
Whether Brady Quinn succeeds or not will be dependent on a lot of factors. Team ability, coaching, injuries, luck, etc. But the bottom line here is that Quinn has all of the same prominent qualities that have earmarked the best NFL QB's of recent time coming out of college. He played at a high level for a major Div I program (Notre Dame) like Manning (Tenn,) and Brady (Michigan). He has a great arm, great work ethic and clearly has the football field smarts that stand out amongst his peers. OK so his last game was't great, he didn't win the National Championship (neither did Manning or Brady).
For teams to pass up on him for guys like Russell shows the obvious bias and stupidity of the NFL. Russell is represetative of a group of QB's that have performed miserably. End of story. He may be the exception but that is a GAMBLE, not a reasoned rational choice. Only racism can explain such a decision and it is an example where the NFL doesn't think of profit first when selecting players, it thinks of "race" first. That is the story of Brady Quinn. That is also the story of Matt Leinhart, who will be ten times the QB Vince Young is, which was last years example of anti-white bias. A bias which effect the profit margin of the teams making the decision.
However in the share-the-revenue NFL, they don't care. Each team still makes money no matter how many poorly performing black players they select over white ones, so for anyone who thinks white players are not treated unfairly becasue to do so would cost teams money ---well they can go suck eggs.
For teams to pass up on him for guys like Russell shows the obvious bias and stupidity of the NFL. Russell is represetative of a group of QB's that have performed miserably. End of story. He may be the exception but that is a GAMBLE, not a reasoned rational choice. Only racism can explain such a decision and it is an example where the NFL doesn't think of profit first when selecting players, it thinks of "race" first. That is the story of Brady Quinn. That is also the story of Matt Leinhart, who will be ten times the QB Vince Young is, which was last years example of anti-white bias. A bias which effect the profit margin of the teams making the decision.
However in the share-the-revenue NFL, they don't care. Each team still makes money no matter how many poorly performing black players they select over white ones, so for anyone who thinks white players are not treated unfairly becasue to do so would cost teams money ---well they can go suck eggs.
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Not sure how you can compare a guy who you say doesn't take a lot of sacks (Russell) to Drew Bledsoe, of all people, who is notorious for taking too many sacks.
I think both Young and Russell are both going to be mediocre quarterbacks at best, but both will be lauded and treated as the next best thing since Mike Vick(!), future 'Hall of Famers' both of the them.
Quinn will be twice the quarterback of either of these two men, but will probably not receive half as much praise as either.
I think both Young and Russell are both going to be mediocre quarterbacks at best, but both will be lauded and treated as the next best thing since Mike Vick(!), future 'Hall of Famers' both of the them.
Quinn will be twice the quarterback of either of these two men, but will probably not receive half as much praise as either.
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quinn;s my guy. im so sick of all these overrated black qbs
ToughJ.Riggins
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The funny thing is that with the caste whore marxist media drooling over mobile black QB's that the recent "cream of the crop" of the QB classes have had lots of fast white QB's. Little known fact is that Carson Palmer and Kyle Boller of the same class as Leftwich run 4.6's. Ben Rothlisberger runs a 4.7 as does Brady Quinn. Jamarcus Russell runs a 4.8. White QB's can run too it's just that they don't feel it necessary to do so as much. Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
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Josh McNown runs a 4.5 in the 40! He should be a starting qb for the Raiders but we all know that's not going to happen. Josh had some great games with the AZ Cardinals but Coach Green never gave him a fair chance. He had a few games that were incredible with him throwing the ball for almost 400 yards and also running at will. Another in a long list of white athletes that have gotten shafted.
Quinn was punched in the face by Browns defensive end Shaun Smith in the team's weight room last week:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3787518
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3787518
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From the article:
Awesome! Sounds like a guy to build your team around!
Awesome! Sounds like a guy to build your team around!
