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RR and FD thanks for the updates on the recent signings. I composed the list last week, but posted it earlier today and missed the pair. So that brings the total to 10 current Practice Squad wide receivers, which is not terrible for this Caste league. Number of P-Squad defender's is still at an embarrassingly low 11, even with Jacksonville signing the LB from Northern Illinois....FD, this time around (as opposed to 2013) I decided to leave out TE's, OL's and QB's. Those are not Caste positions and based on my scan of all 32 Practice Squad's, whites are fairly represented at all three positions, which is no surprise to CF members.
Good point, ramicackle. I think what's even more stunning, is Adam Thielen and blocking fullback Patrick DiMarco are the only two white Practice Squad players from 2013 to have notable (Pro Bowl level) NFL careers -- out of about 90 I listed. There are a few others that were briefly starters (Will Compton) or are currently considered "average starters" (Remmers and Devey) at non-Caste positions. And there are a handful of Goys still floating around as special teamer's/ backups (Cody Davis, Derek Carrier), but the vast majority are gone. Long gone!
Former Michigan defensive end Craig Roh is the only name I currently recognize from the CFL -- Hamilton Ti-Cats star receiver Luke Tasker was in that class, but never spent a day on a NFL P-Squad. Also, I don't recognize (at first glance) any of the white 2013 Practice Squad players listed as being affiliated with the AAF or XFL. If I were to guess, there are likely dozens of black 2013 Practice Squad players still floating around in the CFL or getting ready to play XFL, or played briefly in the AAF. Don't forget a significant percentage of these players are still under the age of 30.
Kind shows a difference between blacks and whites? NFL players make so much money, that possessing a 53 man roster spot in the NFL is tantamount to winning a lottery. Players in these fringe leagues do not make anywhere close to that. Very telling that whites, perhaps wanting avoid more body injuries or brain damage, just move onto "real jobs", once the NFL dream is over. Meanwhile, blacks will keep exposing their bodies and brains to irreversible injuries, for very little pay, years after they were rejected by the NFL?
WL, one of the saddest parts of the "Caste System" is we'll never actually know who the great white tailbacks and receivers could have been? In the 1990's SI had an article regarding this topic and ex-Packers (Jewish) GM Ron Wolf believed most of the top white wide receivers were actually playing soccer. I do not believe that. I think baseball and lacrosse pick off more potential white receivers, safeties and linebackers. My guess is hockey will also start getting more as the NHL has seen an uptick in talent from Southern and Western U.S. states.
Example, earlier in this decade both the New York Mets and New York Yankees called up prospects that had broken Len Dale White's state of Colorado rushing records. Both faced each other in inter-league games. For the Yankees it was a little used infielder named Kevin Russo, who only played in a handful of MLB games. For the Mets it was a better prospect, Kirk Nieuwenhuis. He was an excellent outfielder and base runner. Great athlete, had light tower power. Was even the first Met to hit 3 HR's in a game in Queens (vs. Arizona). But too many strikeouts and the inability to hit the curve ball caught up with him. After several years in the majors and longer stints in the minors, he was released by Tacoma (AAA) at 31 in 2018?
Looking back, football was probably Nieuwenhuis' and Russo's better sport, but as running backs, the door was likely closed (slammed shut!) early to both?
These are just a few examples, I'm sure there are 1,ooo's more who were good enough to play in the NFL, but never even played a down of college football, because they chose other sports or stopped competing altogether.
Don't forget, J.J. Watt, I believe, began his career as a 4th string tight end at Central Michigan, then walked on at Wisconsin. No one wanted him out of high school. He could've easily walked away from the sport, frustrated, well before he even played a down of college football. Also, how about the "one in a million" story of Chris Hogan, 4 year lacrosse star at Penn State, who miraculously became a high-profile NFL outside wide receiver after a brief stop as a safety at Monmouth College in New Jersey?
It's insane that Thielen sat on the practice squad for all of 2013 and wasn't a starter until 2016. Examples like this are why I come to Caste Football.
Good point, ramicackle. I think what's even more stunning, is Adam Thielen and blocking fullback Patrick DiMarco are the only two white Practice Squad players from 2013 to have notable (Pro Bowl level) NFL careers -- out of about 90 I listed. There are a few others that were briefly starters (Will Compton) or are currently considered "average starters" (Remmers and Devey) at non-Caste positions. And there are a handful of Goys still floating around as special teamer's/ backups (Cody Davis, Derek Carrier), but the vast majority are gone. Long gone!
Former Michigan defensive end Craig Roh is the only name I currently recognize from the CFL -- Hamilton Ti-Cats star receiver Luke Tasker was in that class, but never spent a day on a NFL P-Squad. Also, I don't recognize (at first glance) any of the white 2013 Practice Squad players listed as being affiliated with the AAF or XFL. If I were to guess, there are likely dozens of black 2013 Practice Squad players still floating around in the CFL or getting ready to play XFL, or played briefly in the AAF. Don't forget a significant percentage of these players are still under the age of 30.
Kind shows a difference between blacks and whites? NFL players make so much money, that possessing a 53 man roster spot in the NFL is tantamount to winning a lottery. Players in these fringe leagues do not make anywhere close to that. Very telling that whites, perhaps wanting avoid more body injuries or brain damage, just move onto "real jobs", once the NFL dream is over. Meanwhile, blacks will keep exposing their bodies and brains to irreversible injuries, for very little pay, years after they were rejected by the NFL?
Just like with guys like Ryan Nall, Zach Zenner and many others at every position. We will never know what could have been? Christian McCaffrey could have easily be in the same position. At
least one of our guys was treated fairly. Even with him though he wasn't used much his rookie year. Last year and this season has been alot better. Thank God he is tearing it up. Maybe little by
little we can witness some cracks in the dam of this caste system.
WL, one of the saddest parts of the "Caste System" is we'll never actually know who the great white tailbacks and receivers could have been? In the 1990's SI had an article regarding this topic and ex-Packers (Jewish) GM Ron Wolf believed most of the top white wide receivers were actually playing soccer. I do not believe that. I think baseball and lacrosse pick off more potential white receivers, safeties and linebackers. My guess is hockey will also start getting more as the NHL has seen an uptick in talent from Southern and Western U.S. states.
Example, earlier in this decade both the New York Mets and New York Yankees called up prospects that had broken Len Dale White's state of Colorado rushing records. Both faced each other in inter-league games. For the Yankees it was a little used infielder named Kevin Russo, who only played in a handful of MLB games. For the Mets it was a better prospect, Kirk Nieuwenhuis. He was an excellent outfielder and base runner. Great athlete, had light tower power. Was even the first Met to hit 3 HR's in a game in Queens (vs. Arizona). But too many strikeouts and the inability to hit the curve ball caught up with him. After several years in the majors and longer stints in the minors, he was released by Tacoma (AAA) at 31 in 2018?
Looking back, football was probably Nieuwenhuis' and Russo's better sport, but as running backs, the door was likely closed (slammed shut!) early to both?
These are just a few examples, I'm sure there are 1,ooo's more who were good enough to play in the NFL, but never even played a down of college football, because they chose other sports or stopped competing altogether.
Don't forget, J.J. Watt, I believe, began his career as a 4th string tight end at Central Michigan, then walked on at Wisconsin. No one wanted him out of high school. He could've easily walked away from the sport, frustrated, well before he even played a down of college football. Also, how about the "one in a million" story of Chris Hogan, 4 year lacrosse star at Penn State, who miraculously became a high-profile NFL outside wide receiver after a brief stop as a safety at Monmouth College in New Jersey?