Polamalu wins AP Defensive Player of the Year!

[whiteathlete33]

DIV]<div>Also, in 1995 Paup shouldn't have won. Should have been Junior Seau that year. Seau, being from America Samoa, isn't black so in my mind that wouldn't have mattered. People forget just how absolutely dominant Seau was throughout the whole 90s decade.</div>

I'm going to give an example of how to stick up for our guys and completely shred your arguement so you can get a feel for this website. In 1995 Brice Paup led the league in sacks with 17.5 sacks and also recorded two interceptions from the DE position. Junior Seau had 111 tackles, 130 combined tackles, and 2 sacks that year - somewhat pedestrian stats. There, that was simple.



Junior Seau was certainly not an underrated player. He was media darling the first year he put on a uniform. Despite never leading the league in an any statistical category in his 20 years (often not even close), he was elected to 12 pro bowls. The media seemed to be more obsessed with his race and over the top demeanor than his actual performance on the field. American Samoans are now the NFL's most over-rated race by far. Some kind of ridiculous number like 40% of American Samoan high school football players go on to the NFL. And this for a race that I don't beleive has a single track and field or weightlifting record. The media infatuation with American Samoans is a microcosm of the caste system as it shows the power of perception over reality skewing illogical minds into believing magical qualities of certain races.

They did a show a while back on American Samoans and the NFL. I think it was on MSNBC or something. Anyway they mentioned that if Samoans were equal in population to blacks they would be most of the NFL players. Kinda makes you wonder.

 

[Westside]

Kaptain Poop, I was ready to pounce, before your last post, but man, that was really insightful and well done. Congrats.

But....I see this erupting battle between you and Warhawk46 counter productive here at CF. CP there alot of Somoans that can play the game. I see no reason to rip on them. Most I know are totally opposed to the affelets and their preferential treatment in the NFL.

 

[Deadlift]

From my experience, Samoans are jealous that White men are #1 at "pulling" women, and they will use the "White boy" slur just like blacks.

They think they "own" the realm of the physical, and they don't believe Whites can be masculine.. however, when Whites destroy them in combat sports, they damn near riot! They can't wrap their brains around what just happened! Look it up...

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Polys aren't White and they are used by the media to prop up the anti-white caste system. I see them as part of the problem, just like any black who might take away playing time from a White man, not because he is any better, but because he isn't White.

 

[warhawk46]

Perhaps I am in the minority on these boards since I came here looking for equality across all races in regards to treatment by the media and football recruiters and G.M.'s.<div>
</div><div>I fully support the white athlete, being a former one myself, and his struggles to get a fair-shake when it comes to being able to play the position he loves in the game he loves. But I am absolutely not racist which might be something many on these boards are. I don't condone it, but I understand it. To each their own I guess.</div><div>
</div><div>But I would guess many of the athletes we are trying to prop up and bring awareness too are not racist and merely want an equal opportunity to showcase their skills and be judged on the merits of their athletic talents. Sadly, many white athletes are not; hence the need for this website to raise awareness to the struggle.</div><div>
</div><div>Like I said, I'm not looking to get into any long-running arguments with any posters, realize I have recently started posting (but have read the boards for much longer) and my thoughts may not have weight... I guess I'm just hoping we, the Caste Football forums posters, can bring light to the gross mistreatment of white athletes without resorting to racism like many of the minority journalists and media members do when they prop up the black athlete (for example, the Desi Cortes article posted on the Peyton Hillis thread).</div>

 

[whiteathlete33]

Perhaps I am in the minority on these boards since I came here looking for equality across all races in regards to treatment by the media and football recruiters and G.M.'s.<div>
</div><div>I fully support the white athlete, being a former one myself, and his struggles to get a fair-shake when it comes to being able to play the position he loves in the game he loves. But I am absolutely not racist which might be something many on these boards are. I don't condone it, but I understand it. To each their own I guess.</div><div>
</div><div>But I would guess many of the athletes we are trying to prop up and bring awareness too are not racist and merely want an equal opportunity to showcase their skills and be judged on the merits of their athletic talents. Sadly, many white athletes are not; hence the need for this website to raise awareness to the struggle.</div><div>
</div><div>Like I said, I'm not looking to get into any long-running arguments with any posters, realize I have recently started posting (but have read the boards for much longer) and my thoughts may not have weight... I guess I'm just hoping we, the Caste Football forums posters, can bring light to the gross mistreatment of white athletes without resorting to racism like many of the minority journalists and media members do when they prop up the black athlete (for example, the Desi Cortes article posted on the Peyton Hillis thread).</div>

The playing field has been unfair for years. How else do you explain the complete lack of whites at many positions? I'm not here to help blacks or any other race out. I only care about helping white athletes and making sure they get fair opportunities to succeed. As someone who is new to the boards I don't think you should be making claims that many of us are racist. That's not exactly a good way to get respect here.

 

[jaxvid]

Perhaps I am in the minority on these boards since I came here looking for equality across all races in regards to treatment by the media and football recruiters and G.M.'s.<div></div><div>I fully support the white athlete, being a former one myself, and his struggles to get a fair-shake when it comes to being able to play the position he loves in the game he loves. But I am absolutely not racist which might be something many on these boards are. I don't condone it, but I understand it. To each their own I guess.</div><div></div><div>But I would guess many of the athletes we are trying to prop up and bring awareness too are not racist and merely want an equal opportunity to showcase their skills and be judged on the merits of their athletic talents. Sadly, many white athletes are not; hence the need for this website to raise awareness to the struggle.</div><div></div><div>Like I said, I'm not looking to get into any long-running arguments with any posters, realize I have recently started posting (but have read the boards for much longer) and my thoughts may not have weight... I guess I'm just hoping we, the Caste Football forums posters, can bring light to the gross mistreatment of white athletes without resorting to racism like many of the minority journalists and media members do when they prop up the black athlete (for example, the Desi Cortes article posted on the Peyton Hillis thread). </div>

Sounds good. Your input is welcome. However "Polamalu is better then Matthews" and "Seau is better then Paup" is not the kind of "equality" people come to CasteFootball to hear. If those are you personal views, fine, we just don't want to hear about it here. Since a good argument can be made for just the opposite point of view, that is why CF exists. For example I wouldn't go on a Steelers website and talk about how good the Packers are. It's just rude.Edited by: jaxvid

 

[warhawk46]

Will do then. I will try to keep my posts to only prop-up the white athlete.

 

[backrow]

Seau, while a nice enough guy (i met him once back in his SD days) was always a media darling. HE definitely got all the credit he deserved and more. Paup was more than a fair winner, i don't see why you would even bring Seau into this equation here. we get it, you're an equal opportunity kinda guy, trying to prop Polys. as it is, they receive enough support from the pro scouts, coaches and of course the media, they don't need too much of it on this site.

 

[TheAnimal]

Perhaps I am in the minority on these boards since I came here looking for equality across all races in regards to treatment by the media and football recruiters and G.M.'s.

Not at all. Speaking for myself personally I agree with that. I don't think you would find too many on here that would disagree with a level playing field wherein the best talent gets the roster position and gets the job. A meritocracy is something I believe in and I think you'll find the other members here would fully agree with. As we have all seen when there is genuine equality within any spot you name white athletes reach high levels and stay at high levels.
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But I would guess many of the athletes we are trying to prop up and bring awareness too are not racist and merely want an equal opportunity to showcase their skills and be judged on the merits of their athletic talents. Sadly, many white athletes are not; hence the need for this website to raise awareness to the struggle.

Certainly. Here's where the misunderstanding is; Nobody disagrees with equality nor do we disagree with "minorities" in the NFL competing for jobs nor does anyone disagree that there are many forms of discrimination in the NFL and College ranks. The misunderstanding is in Caste Football expending energy and resources on those facets. This website is about the white athlete and their plight. That is what we're here to discuss. Frankly the other forms of discrimination in the NFL and NCAA pale in comparison. In fact the only thing I could think of that compares would be the NCAA's refusal to scout and tryout American Indian athletes.
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</div>In regards to the whole Samoan NFL Athlete, others are correct, there's none more overrated and propped up, not even the black afflete. Now mind you I don't believe it's some anti-white agenda nor do I believe they're all bad people. It's moreso a marketing and branding agenda. Simply put if you but a guy out there like a Polamalu throwing dirty hits and flying all over the place with long savage hair and/or tribalist tattoos it sells and sells big. The DWF's and the homies both line up to buy the "poly warriors" jerseys. Back to the point of them being overpromoted, overrated at times and propped up i'll give you four blatant examples.

#1: Haloti Ngata. How so? He is a 3-4 nose tackle that was drafted in the top 10. Need I say more? Nose tackles for the 3-4 defense aren't premier positions. Your job is to weigh alot, eat up space and stand there while the center and guard try and move your body mass. That isn't a top 10 position and yet he was propped all the way into the top 10 where Baltimore drafted him.

#2: Rey Maualuga. By some accounts he "fell" in the draft. The reality is this guy went 6 rounds before he should have. Anyone who watched tape on him and read the reports knows it. He doesn't wrap up when he tackles, he's more concerned with making an ESPN highlight than making the play, he overpersues, has stiff hips, he's slow, he can't take off sprinting without pulling his hamstring muscles and he can't read offenses. He also lacks football AND normal intelligence. On the character front it was no secret at USC he was a raging alcoholic as well as immature. The only things he brought to the NFL table was Polamalu hair, an ethnic surname and some tribal tats. The "experts" had him rated over Clay Matthews prior to the draft and a mid first round talent.

#3: Mike Iupati. Again, watching the tape on the guy it was clear as day he was a 3rd round pick at the absolute best. Guards aren't normally taken in the first round for one unless you're elite talent such as Logan Mankins. Secondly he was constantly having to hold on most plays in order to not give up sack after sack. Once again, long wild hair and tribal tats prevailed.

#4: Kaluka Maiava. Career backup at USC/average special teams player and yet... The "experts" had this kid graded out as a 2nd-5th rounder.


Those are just four. Not to say they ALL are but for every Seau who produces there are a dozen who don't have NFL talent drafted into the NFL. Before you say it yes that is true for the affletes as well. There's a big difference though, each year you have 100+ blacks drafted into the NFL.

 

[46D-Plank]

Polamalu doesnt even merit a "career achievement" award. Here are 3 seasons that were subpar, (and this excludes his injury plauged 2009 season):

2003-16 games-38 tackles, 0 INT. 4 passes defensed

2005-16 games-73 tackles, 2 INT. 6 passes defensed

2007-11 games-58 tackles, 0 INT. 9 passes defensed

Basically running around aimlessly....

 

[johnnyboy]

Polamalu doesnt even merit a "career achievement" award. Here are 3 seasons that were subpar, (and this excludes his injury plauged 2009 season):

2003-16 games-38 tackles, 0 INT. 4 passes defensed

2005-16 games-73 tackles, 2 INT. 6 passes defensed

2007-11 games-58 tackles, 0 INT. 9 passes defensed

Basically running around aimlessly....

"Basically running around aimlessly.." seriously, dude? that's your scouting report on Polamalu? i don't want to argue with you man, but just know that a lot of people, especially those that have played football before, don't see Polamalu as a guy who "basically [runs] around aimlessly..."

 

[johnnyboy]

Perhaps I am in the minority on these boards since I came here looking for equality across all races in regards to treatment by the media and football recruiters and G.M.'s.<div></div><div>I fully support the white athlete, being a former one myself, and his struggles to get a fair-shake when it comes to being able to play the position he loves in the game he loves. But I am absolutely not racist which might be something many on these boards are. I don't condone it, but I understand it. To each their own I guess.</div><div></div><div>But I would guess many of the athletes we are trying to prop up and bring awareness too are not racist and merely want an equal opportunity to showcase their skills and be judged on the merits of their athletic talents. Sadly, many white athletes are not; hence the need for this website to raise awareness to the struggle.</div><div></div><div>Like I said, I'm not looking to get into any long-running arguments with any posters, realize I have recently started posting (but have read the boards for much longer) and my thoughts may not have weight... I guess I'm just hoping we, the Caste Football forums posters, can bring light to the gross mistreatment of white athletes without resorting to racism like many of the minority journalists and media members do when they prop up the black athlete (for example, the Desi Cortes article posted on the Peyton Hillis thread). </div>

warhawk,

i had many of the same problems you are experiencing, when i first started posting. free advice...don't take it personal bro. yeah some people are more into being anti-black than they are into being anti-caste, but who cares? don't let it affect you. the posters that show those tendencies are always going to think in racist terms, regardless of whether the caste system endures or ends tomorrow. leave them be. your not going to get them to change their opinions over an internet discussion board.

i don't want you to think this place is full of hate. there's a ton of posters that prefer logic in attacking the caste system. read TJRiggins, Aragorn, Westside (great source of boxing info),white Shogun etc etc. (i suck at remembering names).

cheers.

 

[Jack Lambert]

Perhaps I am in the minority on these boards since I came here looking for equality across all races in regards to treatment by the media and football recruiters and G.M.'s.<div></div><div>I fully support the white athlete, being a former one myself, and his struggles to get a fair-shake when it comes to being able to play the position he loves in the game he loves. But I am absolutely not racist which might be something many on these boards are. I don't condone it, but I understand it. To each their own I guess.</div><div></div><div>But I would guess many of the athletes we are trying to prop up and bring awareness too are not racist and merely want an equal opportunity to showcase their skills and be judged on the merits of their athletic talents. Sadly, many white athletes are not; hence the need for this website to raise awareness to the struggle.</div><div></div><div>Like I said, I'm not looking to get into any long-running arguments with any posters, realize I have recently started posting (but have read the boards for much longer) and my thoughts may not have weight... I guess I'm just hoping we, the Caste Football forums posters, can bring light to the gross mistreatment of white athletes without resorting to racism like many of the minority journalists and media members do when they prop up the black athlete (for example, the Desi Cortes article posted on the Peyton Hillis thread). </div>

warhawk,

i had many of the same problems you are experiencing, when i first started posting. free advice...don't take it personal bro. yeah some people are more into being anti-black than they are into being anti-caste, but who cares? don't let it affect you. the posters that show those tendencies are always going to think in racist terms, regardless of whether the caste system endures or ends tomorrow. leave them be. your not going to get them to change their opinions over an internet discussion board.

i don't want you to think this place is full of hate. there's a ton of posters that prefer logic in attacking the caste system. read TJRiggins, Aragorn, Westside (great source of boxing info),white Shogun etc etc. (i suck at remembering names).

cheers.

I also prefer logically attacking the system too.
Edited by: Jack Lambert

 

[jaxvid]

warhawk,

i had many of the same problems you are experiencing, when i first started posting. free advice...don't take it personal bro. yeah some people are more into being anti-black than they are into being anti-caste, but who cares? don't let it affect you. the posters that show those tendencies are always going to think in racist terms, regardless of whether the caste system endures or ends tomorrow. leave them be. your not going to get them to change their opinions over an internet discussion board.

i don't want you to think this place is full of hate. there's a ton of posters that prefer logic in attacking the caste system. read TJRiggins, Aragorn, Westside (great source of boxing info),white Shogun etc etc. (i suck at remembering names).

cheers.

whatev

 

[Bart]

I'm going to give an example of how to stick up for our guys and completely shred your arguement so you can get a feel for this website. In 1995 Brice Paup led the league in sacks with 17.5 sacks and also recorded two interceptions from the DE position. Junior Seau had 111 tackles, 130 combined tackles, and 2 sacks that year - somewhat pedestrian stats. There, that was simple.

Good post Kaptain.

I remember when Paup was with the Packers. He was very good, but didn't get the credit due him. Why not? Reggie White. Although Paup had only 2 less sacks than White while they played together it was often said that it was because White was double teamed etc. Buffalo snapped him up the next year and he won the DPOY.

He had a monster year, was all over the field and actually had 7-8 more sacks than teammate Bruce Smith.

He played great, deserved the award!! He had 4 more sacks than the second place finisher.

 

[Westside]

Johnnyboy. Thanks Mate for the kind word. Cheers!

 

[Colonel_Reb]

yeah some people are more into being anti-black than they are into being anti-caste, but who cares? don't let it affect you. the posters that show those tendencies are always going to think in racist terms, regardless of whether the caste system endures or ends tomorrow. leave them be. your not going to get them to change their opinions over an internet discussion board.



i don't want you to think this place is full of hate. there's a ton of posters that prefer logic in attacking the caste system. read TJRiggins, Aragorn, Westside (great source of boxing info),white Shogun etc etc. (i suck at remembering names).



cheers.

I for one am unabashedly pro-White, and CF is a pro-White sports website. In fact, it is the only pro-White sports website on the internet. I deal in facts, and those facts include the reality that blacks and other diversities are the undeserving recipients of wildly excessive adoration on the part of the media, coaches, scouts and ignorant fans. What's more is that they get all this while Whites are not only ignored but often ridiculed. I will fight against this if it means getting the names of White players out through this websites and if it means telling the truth about a non-white's lack of skill, non-dedication and overall negative behavior. Pointing out the obvious double standards that exist in race and sports must be done in order for the Caste System to fall apart. Political correctness and timidity to speak the truth even if it sounds "racist" must fall away if we are to succeed. My advice is to spend less time analyzing other posters and spend more time helping the cause of this website, the cause of the White athlete.
Edited by: Colonel_Reb

 

[warhawk46]

One thing to say:<div>
</div><div>I feel embarrassed, but I was totally wrong about Seau deserving it over Paup in 1995. I was mistaking his 94 season. Seau deserved it over the (imo) overrated Deon Sanders that year.</div><div>
</div><div>Paup's dominant season was the next year. He was outstanding and clearly the best defender in 1995. So I apologize about mixing things up. Not a good thing to do regarding a white defender on here! My bad guys, Jaxid, etc.</div><div>
</div><div>JohnnyBoy, thanks for the encouragement. I appreciate it. Like I said, I'm not trying to judge others' viewpoints. I just feel very strongly about exposing the caste system to as many people as I can. Want others who might be curious about learning more not to be off-put is all.</div>

 

[johnnyboy]

yeah some people are more into being anti-black than they are into being anti-caste, but who cares? don't let it affect you. the posters that show those tendencies are always going to think in racist terms, regardless of whether the caste system endures or ends tomorrow. leave them be. your not going to get them to change their opinions over an internet discussion board.

i don't want you to think this place is full of hate. there's a ton of posters that prefer logic in attacking the caste system. read TJRiggins, Aragorn, Westside (great source of boxing info),white Shogun etc etc. (i suck at remembering names).

cheers.

I for one am unabashedly pro-White, and CF is a pro-White sports website. In fact, it is the only pro-White website on the whole internet. I deal in facts, and those facts include the reality that blacks and other diversities are the undeserving recipients of wildly excessive adoration on the part of the media, coaches, scouts and ignorant fans. What's more is that they get all this while Whites are not only ignored but often ridiculed. I will fight against this if it means getting the names of White players out through this websites and if it means telling the truth about a non-white's lack of skill, non-dedication and overall negative behavior. Pointing out the obvious double standards that exist in race and sports must be done in order for the Caste System to fall apart. Political correctness and timidity to speak the truth even if it sounds "racist" must fall away if we are to succeed. My advice is to spend less time analyzing other posters and spend more time helping the cause of this website, the cause of the White athlete.

i can honestly say i don't spend any time "analyzing" posters.

i have no problem with your approach Reb. it suits your belief system well. i don't judge you. my case is different. i played highschool and JUCO ball with guys of different racial backgrounds, so when i am "telling the truth about a non-white's lack of skill," i do so because i genuinely believe he is not skilled, not simply because he is a "non-white." i don't expect you to agree with or understand my point of view, but that's ok. the internet would be a pretty boring place if everyone had the same take on things.Edited by: johnnyboy

 

[johnnyboy]

One thing to say:<div></div><div>I feel embarrassed, but I was totally wrong about Seau deserving it over Paup in 1995. I was mistaking his 94 season. Seau deserved it over the (imo) overrated Deon Sanders that year. </div><div></div><div>Paup's dominant season was the next year. He was outstanding and clearly the best defender in 1995. So I apologize about mixing things up. Not a good thing to do regarding a white defender on here! My bad guys, Jaxid, etc.</div><div></div><div>JohnnyBoy, thanks for the encouragement. I appreciate it. Like I said, I'm not trying to judge others' viewpoints. I just feel very strongly about exposing the caste system to as many people as I can. Want others who might be curious about learning more not to be off-put is all.</div>

you're welcome warhawk. i found this article helpful in proving the caste system to friends.

here

the quotes always seem to have an effect on people.

cheers.Edited by: johnnyboy

 

[johnnyboy]

warhawk,

i had many of the same problems you are experiencing, when i first started posting. free advice...don't take it personal bro. yeah some people are more into being anti-black than they are into being anti-caste, but who cares? don't let it affect you. the posters that show those tendencies are always going to think in racist terms, regardless of whether the caste system endures or ends tomorrow. leave them be. your not going to get them to change their opinions over an internet discussion board.

i don't want you to think this place is full of hate. there's a ton of posters that prefer logic in attacking the caste system. read TJRiggins, Aragorn, Westside (great source of boxing info),white Shogun etc etc. (i suck at remembering names).

cheers.

whatev

(yawn)

 

[Don Wassall]

A divergence of opinion and style is to be expected and is healthy, within reason. What gets some folks riled up is when posters take it upon themselves to say what's good for the site and what isn't. I know I don't appreciate it when it happens. We've had these types of discussions before, and sometimes they get heated. That type of opinion is best expressed through pms to the mods or whoever. I think any independent thinker can see by the thread titles and the vast majority of the posts that this is a serious site supported by intelligent people. Those who have come here solely with an axe to grind have either been banned or eventually left of their own accord. Racial slurs are not permitted, and while negative traits of individual athletes and groups of people are often pointed out, they should be.Too much dysfunctional and criminal behavior (overwhelmingly by blacks) has gotten afree ride from the media and often from the judicial system.And White fans and certainly White executives, broadcasters, journalists, etc., get bashed here all the time.




So let the brilliance of your opinions shine brightly and leave the "policing" of the site to those who have that responsibility.

 

[46D-Plank]

My scouting report is that he had 3 subpar seasons and an season lost mostly to injury. Im not off base to say that hes an on/off player.

 

[whiteathlete33]

I certainly don't have a problem with different approaches to attacking the caste system. What I do have a problem with, however, is when newbies claim most members on this site are racist. Some members do come on strong at times, but it's only because it's necessary.