Oleg Maskaev vs Samuel Peter

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I noticed that the eastsideboxing regulars are praising Samuel Peter to the highest, predicting that he will beat Maskaev, and later in the year beat Vitali Klitschko. There's the usual insulting and discrediting of Maskaev and the Klitschkos.

This reveals their motive - it isn't that they hate people from other countries, because Peter is from Nigeria. It isn't that they cheer for Americans over foreigners, because Maskaev is now an American citizen, and Peter is not. They just don't like White boxers!

That's why I like this website - it is good to find a place on the internet where White boxers are given credit when they deserve it.

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Don't bet Peter will fight Vitali if he beats Oleg. Shady ass ****** Don King owns Peter and is calling the shots.
 

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I don't like all this, I smell a rat. I predict the fix is in and King came up with enough money to buy off Maskaev and his people. I predict Peter wins and does NOT fight Klitschko. King ducked that fight because he couldn't buy off the Klitschko camp.
 

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I really hate to see Vitali fight Peter without a warm up fight. I'm a big fan of the Klitschko brothers, but Vitali will not have fought in 2 years and Peter has been fighting and improving during that time. Vitali I think is the better fighter of the two, if for no other reason he can take a punch, and that will be crucial against the hard hitting Peter. If Vitali comes in sharp I think he'll win, but if he shows alot of ring rust it could be a long night. I'm not totally convinced that Peter can beat Maskaev, so maybe we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves. It could be Vitali verses Maskaev. That would be great. We'll be in a win win situation. That hasn't happened in 50 years.
 

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Samuel Peter is very beatable. His two defeats at world level boxing have both been by white boxers: Italian Paolo Vidoz beat him in the quarter finals in the 2000 Olympics, and Wlad defeated him as well.

Oleg Maskaev is a class act, a very skillful fighter who keeps himself in excellent physical condition. Peter will try to hit him behind the head with his infamous "rabbit punches", as he did to Wlad and Toney. I just hope the referee is on top of it.

Look for Maskaev to win a late round TKO or KO, or a UD.
 

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jaxvid said:
I don't like all this, I smell a rat. I predict the fix is in and King came up with enough money to buy off Maskaev and his people. I predict Peter wins and does NOT fight Klitschko. King ducked that fight because he couldn't buy off the Klitschko camp.
If this proves to be true, Maskaev is not worthy of our support. I hope it's not.
 

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No, the fight was cancelled because Peter's camp was asking for too much "step aside" money, and so it wouldn't have been a good business decision to go ahead with the Maskaev-Vitali match.

Don King and the others in the Peter camp were asking for an unrealistically high amount of money. For awhile it was thought the fight in Moscow could make enough to cover the 2.5 million or more and still have enough left over to make it worthwhile for Maskaev and Vitali, but eventually they found it could not.

It all works out for the best, because Maskaev will beat Peter, and the other fight will take place in the fall. Edited by: JD1986
 

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Unfortunately, I have to disagree with my fellow melanin-challenged fight fans on this one. I think Peter will KO Maskaev, despite the fact Peter couldn't knock out James "Fatman" Toney. Maskaev is too easy to hit, IMO.
 

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White Shogun said:
Unfortunately, I have to disagree with my fellow melanin-challenged fight fans on this one. I think Peter will KO Maskaev, despite the fact Peter couldn't knock out James "Fatman" Toney. Maskaev is too easy to hit, IMO.
If Maskaev wins this fight it will be a huge upset. He will have to box Peter the way Maskaev did against Tua until he tired and was caught late in the 10th round and finished early in the 11th. A tough task for a guy approaching 40. Maybe Maskaev is a better technical boxer, then he was when he was closer to 30 but I'm not sure he can physically dig down deep against a guy 10 years younger than him.
 
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Maskaev is also a puncher. Remember how he won his Championship. He was way behind on points and knocked Rahmann out of the ring. He also broke Sinan Samil Sam's jaw in the second round of their eliminator match. He also has a 3" height advantage and a 2" reach advantage. I thnk it will be a competitive fight and yes Maskaev has at least an even chance of winning.
 

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So this fight is now less than two weeks away.

I think Oleg has a chance! There would be nothing sweeter that seeing Maskaev KO the overrated Don King fighter, Sam Peter.
 

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If Oleg beats Peter, I think the "white takeover" will finally be official, as EVERY SINGLE black prospect will be gone.

Personally, I think this fight will be too close to call. Peter looked aweful against McCline, but Oleg hasnt fought in such a long time. We all know Peter can punch (and take a punch) rather well. Oleg, however, is relentless, big, and very strong. Peter is young, Oleg is old. Honestly (and as much as it sucks), I could see this fight going either way. I just pray it goes "our" way!
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As much as I want Maskaev to win, I simply can`t get my hopes up too high. He is 39 and he hasn`t fought in so long because of the injuries. My hope is that he can get the fight past 8 or 9 rounds and his stamina and toughness will take over. Man, ifhe could knock Peter through the ropes-like Rahman-it would make my year so far.


If Maskaev wins, I have no problem with him facing Vitali next. I suspect that Vitali would fight only the one time and retire for good. I don`t see him standing in the way of his brother unifying the title. One way or the other, I can see Wladimirwinning over Povetkin, and then probably Chagaev, before moving on tohis final goal of becoming the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.
 
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No doubt Oleg has his hands full with Peter. If he comes in supreme condition and with no lingering injuries he has a chance. My game plan would be to take Peter into deep waters. Along the way every now and then touch him to the body and jaw to keep Peter Honest. In round 8 open up on Peter and start to push the Nigerian.

Oleg will have to take Peter's monster blows and fend off or miss most of them in the beginning. Based on Peter's last outing, his chin was definiately exposed. Oleg has much more power than Cline. Oleg has that Ace up his sleeve. He definiately has a good chance to win, and if does, further cement white dominance at the elite level. Go Oleg!
 

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Van_Slyke_CF said:
One way or the other, I can see Wladimir winning over Povetkin, and then probably Chagaev, before moving on to his final goal of becoming the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.

He also has another mandatory, Tony Thompson. If he fights Chagaev next and beats him, he'll inherit his mandatory, Valuev! But there were rumors of Chagaev's next fight being a voluntary defense against Krasniqi. If that were to happen, his next fight would have to be against Valuev. And we all know about Vitali possibly fighting the winner of Maskaev-Peter. So it could be a while before Wlad gets a crack at the other champions. We'll see.
 

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This would be an amazing upset if Maskaev wins. Remember, he's 39, been inactive for a year and a half, and has had serious back injuries. Fighting in a tropical climate (Cancun) with the humidity of oceanside may affect a Russian more than someone who grew up in hot humid Nigeria. I imagine the referee will allow Sam Peter to hit Oleg with all the rabbit punches he wants. And if it goes to a decision, I don't trust the judges scores in this Don King boxing event.

But I have the feeling that Maskaev may land some good good uppercuts and lay Peter on his back! Edited by: JD1986
 
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I have a feeling Oleg is gonna win big. Not sure why I have that feeling. But something tells me that he is gonna win by a late knock out. I give Peter rounds 1-5 to KO Maskaev. After that I believe humidity, or no humidity Maskaev will progressively become stronger as Peter fades. Look for a Oleg victory by knockout in the middle of round eleven.
If Oleg does lose I think it will e over by the third.
 

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Peter is bad bet at -350, the Mcline fight has thrown a fly in the ointment for his coronation ceremony. For the whigger trolls, (Sol Rosenberg and friends) I recommend you bet Peter strong so that the local mob factions can have your thumbs or knee caps for a down payment on your debt....
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I have a feeling Oleg is gonna win big. Not sure why I have that feeling. But something tells me that he is gonna win by a late knock out. I give Peter rounds 1-5 to KO Maskaev. After that I believe humidity, or no humidity Maskaev will progressively become stronger as Peter fades. Look for a Oleg victory by knockout in the middle of round eleven.
If Oleg does lose I think it will e over by the third.

Why do you think Peter will fade? I certainly haven't followed his career, and I really don't watch his fights that closely (except for his fights against Wlad and McCline,) so maybe I missed something. But from what I've seen of him, his main strength is his consistent aggression. He's slow, fat, and not particularly skilled, but he's in his opponent's face all night.
 

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I think this fight is bad news for Oleg. I hope I'm wrong, very wrong, but I think Oleg will be KO'd.

Easy to hit + big puncher = lights out.
 

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Tough talk from Peter today at the Cancun press conference, as per fight news... Peter lashes out!
Photo: David Martin Warr/DKP

The normally reserved Samuel Peter, who has been in Cancun for a week, wasted little time in disparaging just-arrived WBC heavyweight champion Oleg Maskaev at a press conference today at the Royal Hotel promoting the first world heavyweight championship in Mexico at Plaza de Toros (HBO 9:30 ET/6:30 p.m. PT). Maskaev and Peter had been scheduled to meet on Oct. 6 at Madison Square Garden, but Maskaev pulled out on Sept. 21 due to a back injury. That postponement did not sit well with Peter, whom the WBC made its interim heavyweight champion on Sept. 24. When Peter was asked to speak, he stepped to the podium and glared at Maskaev. "I'm coming to fight on Saturday night and I promise I'm going to beat you," Peter said. "I'm going to punish you and beat you up. I've been fighting for seven years and I've never ducked anyone. I hope you're planning on coming to fight on Saturday. You can run no more."Edited by: white is right
 

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Maskaev is one tough SOB, I'd never bet against him. Peter is nothing special, this one can go either way.
 

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Both Maskaev and Peter are contenders but neither are champion material: their respective deficiencies are too great to overcome against the very best among the heavyweights (the Klitschkos).

Maskaev is slow in both hand and foot and is old. He usually has good stamina, blocks punches reasonably well, and has power in his right which he knows how to use to counter his opponents. But because he lacks speed he must win by a knockout as Peter will likely be busier or at least more effective in scoring. Because he is slow he leaves himself open to counters and has been knocked out as a result.

Peter is not fast but he is faster than Maskaev and he appears younger. His power is not worse than Maskaev's but it is not better. His power has been greatly exaggerated as his two fights with Toney and his fight with Mcline proved this. He does not seem to learn-on-the-go during fights and this has been his downfall. For example, when he fought Toney, his corner told to stop trying to hit him in the head directly as Toney is too good at defending head shots. It was not until the second fight that he made the change and shot for Toney's chest. Peter's chin does not seem to be better than that of Maskaev's but, again, it does not seem to be worse. He will pick himself up as much as he can and do anything to win so I would not question his desire.

This fight is really for Peter to lose and not for Maskaev to win. Peter will be faster and if he works behind double and triple jabs and takes the easy body shots that will be there for him he will win on points. Maskaev can only try and nullify Peter by getting close to him -which should not be too difficult- and keep the fight close by staying close with short bursts inside and many frustrating clinches. In the late rounds Maskaev may find Peter tiring and he may be able to knock him out with an inside right hand.

I hope Maskaev finds the concentration within him to send Peter to the canvas for the count; and because of the venue being in Cancun, I think that is the only way Maskaev can win.
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