NFL Week 15

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black quarterback Josh Freeman has fallen back to earth, after showing the most promise out of all the recent black quarterbacks, it looked like he was back to his 2010 form for about a 4 to 5 game stretch (after looking crappy for the first 4 games), now has been awful for the past 5 games, 4 interceptions against the SAINTS, who have the last place defense in the league. Over the past 5 games he has completed 52 percent of his passes 7 tds and 6 interceptions. This is his 4th year in the league, I am sure he will get at least another year to prove himself though. Everyone keeps speaking of his "amazing deep ball", but every time I tune in, I don't see it. Somehow last year was a "sophomore slump" but it was his 3rd year in the league, and he started 9 games his rookie year, playing in 10.

ESPN trying to downplay Kirk Cousins performance yesterday, saying it was "just the Browns". It was just his first start. I don't care who the opponent was, that 54 yard touchdown throw was very nice, he was still on the move running when throwing that down the field. The last time he played a significant amount he threw a 70+ yarder to Santana Moss, yes a good deal came after the catch but he was willing to chuck it deep. On around 40 pass attempts, he probably has about half the amount of deep passes that RG3 has. Rg3 has 4 games with a pass over 50 yards, I know the 88 yarder to Pierre Garcon barely crossed the line of scrimmage.

They are trashing Christian Ponder in order to raise Adrian Peterson up. Yes he hasn't shown to be a great qb just yet, but its his 2nd season and he has shown improvement, with nobody to really throw to, no deep threat to take advantage of the running game, even when Percy Harvin was healthy, he was running mostly short routes. That is poor coaching because he should be running more of a variety. Welker is a slot receiver as well, with less top end speed and runs more of a variety. I mean if the coach was smart, they could be running something similar to what the Patriots had with Welker and Gronkowski with Harvin and Rudolph, but they don't.

Woodhead showed that if you give him just a little variety he will produce. Most of the plays were up the gut but they weren't all the same draw play to simply keep the defense respecting the run. It would have been nice to see a toss play, outside zone, anything to the outside. I think they did once near the goal line and it was a td. If they had run just a few of those plays with him he would have broken off a big run. I see it with Ridley all the time, he gets those type of plays with huge holes and gets maybe a 20 yard gain, those would be 40 with Woodhead. He would have had a better shot of breaking 100 yesterday. Its good to see Bellicheck sticking by his standards for all backs, one fumble and your out for most of the game. Ridley did lose the ball twice but the first one was technically not a fumble as he hit the ground first. Vereen lost the ball and was out. I think he will be back to around 10 touches next game, but hopefully sees an increased workload. I think it depends on where they play. Those other two backs aren't cut out for cold weather.
 
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Great post Thrashen, you continue to out-do yourself week after week. Must be that blue-collar, lunch pail, non-stop motor, overachieving attitude you have.

To follow up what has been said about Chad Greenway, I find it highly impressive that he is achieving these totals as an outside linebacker. It's almost like Watt being a sack monster in the 3-4. I've always wondered if Chad would be better or worse if he played MLB instead?

Another White star putting up absurd stats is Luke Kuechly. After his modest day Sunday, modest only by his lofty standards, is 2nd in the NFL with 138 tackles. Defensive rookie of the year should be his, baring some robbery. I love Chad Greenway, but how cool would it be to see a White rookie lead the NFL in tackles?
 

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I wouldn't mind seeing Harrison Smith win DROY over Luke. He currently has 91 tackles, (10 coming yesterday) 3 picks, 2 of them going for a td, 10 pass deflections and 1 fumble recovery, so he will reach the 100 tackle mark at this pace, maybe put up another interception or two. The safeties who have more tackles than him are more of the prototypical in the box guys like Roman Harper and Ryan Clark, Smith can do anything you ask him, not limited to playing in the box and some of the stuff he does doesn't show up in the stat sheet, his nickname is the eraser, making up for other players mistakes.
 
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There is no doubt in my mind that Woodhead could be a thousand yard back but he'd need a bit over 200 carries a season to accomplish that feat. Not going to happen when the most he's been give is 97 carries a few years ago. He should be good for around 500 receiving yards as well if used enough. He has a Jamaal Charles skill set with the speed to break off long runs like Charles.

Without question Woodhead has everything a scat back needs. He really is every bit as good as the great Barry Sanders. THats not going to far to say that. I mean can anybody point to any attribute that Sanders had which Woodhead doesn't? Speed, agility, moves, vision, power, heart, blocking, hands? I think hes got it all. All he needs is some sane play calling, and a lot more touches. It almost seems like the Pats coaching staff dont want him to shine like he could.
 
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Without question Woodhead has everything a scat back needs. He really is every bit as good as the great Barry Sanders. THats not an going to far to say that. I mean can anybody point to any attribute that Sanders had which Woodhead doesn't? Speed, agility, moves, vision, power, heart, blocking, hands? I think hes got it all. Al he needs is some sane play calling, and a lot more touches. It almost seems like the Pats coaching staff dont him to shine like he could.

Vereen even has 54 carries to Woodhead's 70 this year. Ridley has almost 4 times as many touches. Ridley isn't anything special and he's slow with a 4.66 40 time which would mean blocking duties for him if he was white. Yet he's somehow managed to go over 1,100 yards to far this year and average a very decent 4.4 yards per carry. Makes sense doesn't it?
 
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Vereen even has 54 carries to Woodhead's 70 this year. Ridley has almost 4 times as many touches. Ridley isn't anything special and he's slow with a 4.66 40 time which would mean blocking duties for him if he was white. Yet he's somehow managed to go over 1,100 yards to far this year and average a very decent 4.4 yards per carry. Makes sense doesn't it?
I wanted to post this a few weeks ago but 2 commentators on the New England pre game show on the radio were discussing all of the Patriot running backs and both agreed emphaticaly that Danny Woodhead " is NOT elusive ". What the hell? These guys are PATRIOT commentators its not like they cover the Patriots twice a year. I have no idea how they came up with this conclusion other than being brain washed by the caste system. Wow!
 

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Tim Shaw will be starting for Colin McCarthy again tonight at middle linebacker. McCarthy's had a lost season due to injuries but Shaw has played well. It may be too late in Shaw's career to get a starting job as he was pegged early on as a White Special Teams Demon despite his speed and productivity at Penn State.
 

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Without question Woodhead has everything a scat back needs. He really is every bit as good as the great Barry Sanders. THats not going to far to say that. I mean can anybody point to any attribute that Sanders had which Woodhead doesn't? Speed, agility, moves, vision, power, heart, blocking, hands? I think hes got it all. All he needs is some sane play calling, and a lot more touches. It almost seems like the Pats coaching staff dont want him to shine like he could.

I don't think they are the same kind of player. Woodhead is and can be a great scatback but Sanders was built differently. Sanders had huge outsized thighs for his height. Woodhead is more evenly proportioned. Woodhead is good but that comparison is a bit much.
 

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Vereen even has 54 carries to Woodhead's 70 this year. Ridley has almost 4 times as many touches. Ridley isn't anything special and he's slow with a 4.66 40 time which would mean blocking duties for him if he was white. Yet he's somehow managed to go over 1,100 yards to far this year and average a very decent 4.4 yards per carry. Makes sense doesn't it?

Not only that, but Ridley also gets many different types of carries. This will sound like Im a "know it all", but if I was the offensive coordinator for the Pats we would score 50 points a game, and Woodhead would be a thousand yard back for sure. Maybe even a 2000 yard back. He has the talent.
 

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I don't think they are the same kind of player. Woodhead is and can be a great scatback but Sanders was built differently. Sanders had huge outsized thighs for his height. Woodhead is more evenly proportioned. Woodhead is good but that comparison is a bit much.

they are different types of backs, but I think Woodhead could easily put up Sanders type stats if given the rock that many times a game. Woodhead doesn't get the negative runs that Barry did. The whole argument that Sanders had a poor line is crap, he didn't have the Cowboys line, but they weren't bad, I believe they had 2 or 3 guys that were all pro but the qb situation wasn't the best. Sanders struggled to run in the redzone as well as blocking. Although Sanders was amazing to watch,I wouldn't say the comparison is a bit much. They are both smaller scat backs (around the same size) that have elite speed . I think thats where the comparison begins, and ends. Woodhead's initial burst is probably better than his top end speed, as he has gotten caught down the field the few times he has gotten the blocking to go all the way, like 50 yarder against the Jets. I think his legs are shorter than Sanders, which allows him to cut quickly but probably doesn't help with top end speed, I don't think his thighs are that much smaller in terms of bulk. I would say he would be somewhere in between Warrick Dunn and Marshall Faulk. Now Marshall Faulk had all of the tools. Now that comparison would be a bit much, but in terms of potential I think he could have a career somewhere in between those two, but he is already 27 so its not going to happen. Hopefully he can start at least getting the touches kevin faulk got. He should at least be in a Darren Sproles type role right now.
 
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I stopped watching the game last night after the INT that bound off of Hernandez's hands. I was surprised to see the final score. That loss is solely on the black RBs that McWigger prefers over Woodhead. They both fumbled the ball away and that let the game get out of hand. Hopefully the next two games see alot more Woodhead.

The Seattle and Carolina games were both very disappointing. It still baffles me that the black midget in Seattle is winning games somehow. Scam is stat padding late in the year and getting praised for his performances. At least their victories came against coal black defenses.

It is hilarious how the media is downplaying the Cousins performance. The Browns have been playing well the past few weeks but leave it to BSPN and all the moronic talking heads to break down to the game was just against the Browns. No one seemed to say that in Griffin's first start vs. the putrid New Orleans defense. Cousins performance really showed that he is just as good as Griffin.

Ponder is getting the **** end of the stick. Draft Vernon or Swope and it will pay dividends right away. Sanchez is getting the no WR excuse due to all the injuries the Jets have had but no one wants to address the fact the Vikings WRs are among the worst in the league. Freeman has also benefited from that excuse. His fall back to earth has been a pleasure to watch.

I have found this season of football to be somewhat disappointing. Tebow getting screwed, Gerhart not getting a fair shot, Hillis' woes continue.

The WR performances have been good and hopefully more whites will be drafted at the position.
 

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These bumbling morons Gruden and Tirico just bashing Tebow. They are making it seem like he is coming in taking snaps from Peyton Manning.

This is the time of year when I finally get fed up with all the caste speak and blatant anti-white racism especially against Tebow - everyone's favorite target for no good reason.
 

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Tirico and Gruden are upset when the great Mark Sanchez comes out for Tebow for a play. And who can blame them? After all, Sanchez has led the Jets to all of 3 points so far against a bad Tennessee defense.
 

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Woodhead should be getting these type of touches every game. 10-15 carries, 5 catches. I think the Sanders - Woodhead comparison is about as ridiculous as it gets, however.
 
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Though the sample size is much smaller, here is how Danny Woodhead stacks up against some of the all time greats:

Emmit Smith YPC AVG-- 4.2
Barry Sanders -- 5.0
Adrian Peterson -- 5.0
Walter Payton -- 4.4
Jerome Bettis -- 3.9
Eric Dickerson -- 4.4
Marshall Faulk -- 4.3
Jim Brown -- 5.2
Danny Woodhead -- 4.8
Also, the year Danny had his most carries he avg 5.6 yards per carry which is amazing. Some might think I and others are crazy but I believe in my heart of hearts that Woodhead could POSSIBLY have had a Hall-of-Fame type career IF his skin was the correct color. Remember, he would have received all the benefits that come with being a black player IE more confidence, unlimited praise, feeling wanted amongst his peers, etc.
 

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Sanchez with his third INT yet Tirico defends him again citing the supporting cast.
 

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Woodhead should be getting these type of touches every game. 10-15 carries, 5 catches. I think the Sanders - Woodhead comparison is about as ridiculous as it gets, however.

Come on man "as ridiculous as it gets" seriously? I guess some people dont think there can ever be a white Barry Sanders lol. I used Sanders for two reasons. Their size is very similar, and the moves are almost identical. They way they both cut, and juke, and make would be tacklers wobble, and fall is amazing. I think only castethink can make one deny the obvious similarities.
 

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Any other quarterback would be benched except for a guy in front of Tebow. Talk about a team trying to lose! Wow. Anything to keep the great white hope just a hope. Gruden an Trico suck donkey balls!
 

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That portly jew steve levy just insulted both Locker and Tebow during the sportscenter highlights.

He just said Locker was not much better than Sanchez...are you ****ing kidding me?
 

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And sportscenter immediately ridicules who on the highlights? Tebow. For throwing a pass out of bounds - normally considered smart football play. Amazing the degree of brainwashing. Sanchez stinks it up again and Tebow gets ridiculed and laughed at?
 

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And now Trent Dilfer is busy blaming the Jets entire season on Tim Tebow. Unbelievable! Is there anybody with a voice of sanity out there in media land?
 
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That portly jew steve levy just insulted both Locker and Tebow during the sportscenter highlights.

He just said Locker was not much better than Sanchez...are you ****ing kidding me?

I heard him. "Locker a better runner than a thrower (SARCASTIC VOICE)." Imagine him saying that about any number of black quarterbacks.
 

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I'm going to have to watch the Jets game again and maybe five more times. Anyone who doesn't believe in the Caste system after seeing the way Mark Sanchez played, is an idiot. Mark Sanchez 4ints and 1 huge fumble, his QB rating has to be in the negatives. He he were white with a black backup he would have lost his job 2 weeks into the season. IMO Sanchez should be the third string QB.:thumbup:
 

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I thought there could be just one NFL telecast where the announcers would refrain from the obligatory "RG3" meme, but it just happened. The NFL and most of its announcers do this...........................:baby:

Chuckie Smucky Gruden and Congenial cocoa Star Trackio are stalwart members of "I suck caste members only club" LOL
 
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