NFL Preseason week 1

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Brief Jeff Maehl sighting for the Texans last night. If the Texans won't use him, maybe Chip Kelly can get him over to the Eagles.

 

[PHillisFan]

DWFs are salivating over EJ Manuel scoring a touchdown against the second and third string Colts defense. He was playing with the Bills first string offense. Against the Colts first string defense he's struggled and aside from the touchdown drive he struggled against the third stringers.

Dat upside though, you guys seen his wrist flick?

The 3rd stringer Jeff tuel looked way better than manuel. Jeff tuel is a diamond in the rough. Watch him end up being the future qb.

 

[bigunreal]

Manuel will be the starter. Keeping in line with the last 3 years of magical black quarterbacks, he managed to complete nearly every pass, of course no turnovers. That seems to be a real "black thing" now, somehow never throwing interceptions. And his QB rating was 102, even though he only threw for barely over 100 yards on 16 completions. We always hear these affletes' QB ratings, or the new QBR ratings, touted as being exceptional. It's almost like they add points for being black, in the finest tradition of affirmative action in the workplace.

Geno Smiff's injury will be the only thing that keeps him from starting. And I predict he will be curiously unable to throw interceptions, too. Meanwhile, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbart and Christian Ponder continue to struggle with low QB ratings and are not blessed with the black quarterback's astounding immunity from turnovers.

I have no confidence that the nearly all black defenses, coached by either blacks or white gym coach rejects, will ever be able to "solve" the "complex" affletic QB offenses. After all, they haven't managed to counteract the magical running black quarterbacks in college, have they?

Unless Griffin can't come back from injury (and he appears to be "magical" in that regard, too), we can look forward to many verbal orgasms from the jock sniffers and DWFs over him, Scam, Wilson, Manuel and Smiff. And next year, there will be 2-3 more black starting QBs, at least. Do the math. But at least we'll always have long snappers, kickers and punters.

 

[davidholly]

They don't throw interceptions because they don't take risky throws. As a result their QB ratings are high but their wins are low. When they go up against defenses with good coverage they struggle big time.

Look at Griffin's stat line against the Atlanta Falcons last year. 10 of 15 for 91 yards with 0 touchdowns or interceptions. He also got injured on his sole rush of the game. That stat line just shows he only takes the safe throws. When a white QB is overly reliant upon yards after the catch they're harshly criticized. When a black player does it they're treated like Hall of Famers.

Edit: Just remembered the Steelers game, Griffin was 16 of 34 for 177 yards, 1 touchdown and 0 interceptions.

 

[Carolina Speed]

They don't throw interceptions because they don't take risky throws. As a result their QB ratings are high but their wins are low. When they go up against defenses with good coverage they struggle big time.

Look at Griffin's stat line against the Atlanta Falcons last year. 10 of 15 for 91 yards with 0 touchdowns or interceptions. He also got injured on his sole rush of the game. That stat line just shows he only takes the safe throws. When a white QB is overly reliant upon yards after the catch they're harshly criticized. When a black player does it they're treated like Hall of Famers.

Edit: Just remembered the Steelers game, Griffin was 16 of 34 for 177 yards, 1 touchdown and 0 interceptions.

Great point davidholly, similarly, here in Carolina, Scam 90% of the time used TE Olsen on the 5 and out route or the check down to the RB. On the few times he threw the ball over 15 yards, it was rarely completed. The Panther coaching staff has even admitted to simplifying the offense for Newton.

Very few black QB's if any, have shown the courage to stay in the pocket or the brains to go through their reads/progressions to become great QB's.

If the NFL is going to dumb down the QB position in order to finally get mostly blacks in this position, they may succeed and at that point I will watch the NFL as much as I watch the NBA, which is about once a season!

 

[sport historian]

Great point davidholly, similarly, here in Carolina, Scam 90% of the time used TE Olsen on the 5 and out route or the check down to the RB. On the few times he threw the ball over 15 yards, it was rarely completed. The Panther coaching staff has even admitted to simplifying the offense for Newton.

Very few black QB's if any, have shown the courage to stay in the pocket or the brains to go through their reads/progressions to become great QB's.

If the NFL is going to dumb down the QB position in order to finally get mostly blacks in this position, they may succeed and at that point I will watch the NFL as much as I watch the NBA, which is about once a season!

Yes, we've seen this with black QBs for a while: a dink and dunk passing game.

 

[Leonardfan]

Much like basketball the NFL has become very dumbed down. The point of the game is to score TDs effectively and efficiently but more emphasis has been put on how this is done than the end result. Just another case of style over substance.

 

[Thrashen]

I'm amazed watching the Eagles-Patriots game. Philly is even Whiter on offense than New England, lots of White tight ends and receivers, an all-White or almost all-White o-line and the backup linemen are all White or close to it. Even with Vick starting they had 7 White starters on offense, and both predominantly White offenses have moved the ball well in this game.

Foles looked very good and Barkley has been good for his first playing time. Philly may be the team to root for in the NFC this season even if Vick starts, especially if Riley Cooper puts up nice numbers.

Both the Eagles and Patriots started all-white offensive lines (since Jason Peters was injured for the Eagles), and all 10 back-ups were white also. Deep into the 4[SUP]th[/SUP] quarter, a black OT was inserted for the Eagles. Second string Patriot guard, Marcus Cannon, would have also played, but was injured. Despite the league’s incessant drafting of sumos, I’ve noticed that several teams with an affinity for black lineman (Lions, Raiders, Cardinals, Rams) will have a significant uptick in white starters in 2013. The Eagles were trending in this direction under Andy Pig, and the drafting of Lane Johnson in the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] round further proved that commitment.

As you mentioned, with their 4/5 OL, Cooper, Ertz, Casey, and Celek, Philly should be the most exciting NFC offense to watch in 2013 (more so than Green Bay, in my opinion), and would be even better if Mike Vick suffers his yearly broken ribs. When Riley Cooper caught his first pass during the contest, half of the home-town crowd DWF’s cheered, the other half booed. Thankfully, the announcers didn’t mention the “national controversy.” Cooper is by far the Eagles’ biggest and strongest receiver, towering over Avant, Jackson, and Johnson. He’s unquestionably the starting #2 flanker, so he should have a stellar campaign in 2013…

CAPTION: Old Friends Reunited After Pre-Season Game

New England was actually pretty uninteresting to watch on offense during the game. Amendola only played the first series or two, Ballard barely played (presumably to “save” him for the regular season), Edelman made a few nice catches, Tebow played alright, and Sudfeld mostly played with the run-heavy Tebow-lead offense, making one fantastic catch-and-run...

CAPTION: Edelman Returns from Lengthy Injury

Defensively, the Pats started Rob Ninkovich and Steve Gregory, with Dane Fletcher featured heavily and playing well after a serious knee injury during the 2012 pre-season. OLB Jake Bequette got some significant playing time with the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] unit and did very little, as usual. If Bequette doesn’t “stand out” at some point, he could be cut. If they were to keep one white DE/OLB, I think they should have re-signed Trevor Scott. Jeff Tarpinian played at LB also and could make the roster as a special teams ace. LB’s Niko Koutouvides, Mike Rivera, and AJ Edds barely played and could all be cut. Reserve safety, Nate Ebner (who made the squad last year), didn’t play defense whatsoever.

 

[Freethinker]

I take it nobody watched the Giants last night? I guess no reason to, but wanted to know how Cooper Taylor was doing. He is supposed to be a nickel safety/lb hybrid.

Taylor did not play with a hamstring injury. The forgotten safety Tyler Sash had a good game. A bunch of tackles, 2 for loses (credited with a safety).

 

[white is right]

Yes, we've seen this with black QBs for a while: a dink and dunk passing game.

The West Coast offense has made short outlet passes the bread and butter of all offenses. The problem with most of the Black qbs are that in general their lack of touch on these paces hinders their offenses. If a tight end or receiver has to reach back to catch a 5 yard out the play will literally be 5 yards every completed pass. Watch Montana to Rice and you see that Montana hits Rice in stride 90+ percent of the time on these throws.

 

[TwentyTwo]

BigunReal...

This is not the first wave of "new style" QB's...like big time bust Akili Smith, Tony Banks, Shaun King(fizzled out); Aaron Brooks(one year wonder)....I only see EJ Manuel as a slightly better version of Jason Campbell...not sold on Geno Smith...he is maybe a starter only bec Sanchez is terrible! It may be unfair to compare him to Brooks...who had to go to leadership class on how to become a leader...guess time will tell.

There will always be room at the inn for the old school drop back passer...but if the game is evolving like the Marxst media wants...then dual-threat QB's like Locker(NFL's 2nd Fastest QB?), Tannehill(ex WR) & Ponder need to win a playoff game soon! They offset this movement...however Tebow won a playoff game and theat did not prove to be helpful.

And Andrew Luck ran a 4.58( same time as sCam)at combine only to have it trimmed to 4.63...he is the best QB to come out of the draft in years!

It is frustrating to see maybe an average of only 2 white starters on a defense?? Way under-represented.... The silver lining in this is seeing to JJ Watt & Clay Matthews as the new face of the NFL Defenses on the backgrounds of TV screens! And Eric Weddle was the highest paid $$ Safety & deservedly so! Last years two leading tacklers were Luke Kuechly & Chad Greenway...it may be mostly cloudy; but there is a little sunshine too...

I understand whites seem to share their special lil' corner... Kicker; Punter; Long Snapper Deal...

But you still have to take notice of the young up & coming stud TE's as well...Gronkowski(stay healthy), Fleener, Eifert, Rudolph, McDonald, Ertz & Kelce...along w most important players on O like Witten, Heath Miller, Greg Olsen, Pitta(out for year) + Dreesen/Tamme; Celek; Owen Daniels/Garrett Graham; Meyers, Zach Miller, Chandler, Jordan Cameron.. Zac Sudfield could become a baby Gronk...Tom Crabtree had a long TD last season w/ Packers; now w Bucs..he's battling w 6'-7" Luke Stocker. Rookie Luke Wilson could be one to watch as well.

I think James Casey could be a RB if given the opportunity...another version of albino rhino...give him the ball 20 to 25 times and he gets a 100 yards too!

The HS recruiting services are not helping...making this tougher for the cause....Then comes the funnel of the NFL Combine

 

[TwentyTwo]

*Double Post*

 

[bigunreal]

TwentyTwo,

The difference between the myriad of black QBs in the 1990s-mid 2000s and Scam, Griffin and Wilson is alarming, imho. One thing you could count on with even the best of those previous black quarterbacks (McNabb, Culpepper, McNair), is that their performances would be subpar, and never meet the ridiculous expectations of the jock sniffers.

Starting with Scam, however, who had bust written all over him in giant letters, and then really going into overdrive last year with Griffin, Wilson and Kaepernick, we see something entirely different. We cannot argue against the statistics of these new black quarterbacks. We can say they are dinking and dunking, but in the case of Kaepernick, at least, that isn't entirely true. I keep expecting Griffin or Wilson or Kaepernick to have at least one horrid statistical game, and to throw 4 interceptions or something, but it just doesn't happen. They don't turn the ball over, and have high completion percentages.

Meanwhile, a guy like Jake Locker, who certainly seems to have more talent than all these black quarterbacks put together, just hasn't really impressed since showing flashes as a rookie. And Christian Ponder is nearly as talented, imho, and again always seems to leave doubts, doubts that we really can't debate, especially when the black quarterbacks are putting up these gaudy stats (however they are achieving them).

We all know that white QBs are referred to as "dink and dunking" when they do what Griffin and Wilson do, and that black quarterbacks don't take the chances white QBs do. That's always been the case, but in the past, the Sean Kings and Quincy Carters were so obviously deficient that even the DWFs couldn't stand behind them for long. Things have changed, and we need to at least acknowledge that.

The success of these four black quarterbacks is going to guarantee that the NFL will be flooded with more of them, even if these particular ones regress back to the mean. And the vicious campaign to destroy Johnny Manziel assures us that these exciting "new" read offenses are for blacks only. Tim Tebow being denied a chance to run one of these offenses, which he is tailor made for, is just another piece of conclusive evidence that they would love to make QB the new RB position in the NFL, full of their kind of "diversity."

Andrew Luck, Matthew Stafford and Andy Dalton are the only very young white QBs who have achieved success in the NFL. While Luck is safe, Dalton is incredibly underrated and one mediocre season from being benched. Even Stafford, with a 5000 yard, 41 TD season under his belt, has been called a potential "bust" by DWFs and is always under appreciated by the jock sniffers. We need a lot more Luck types- undeniable white franchise QBs, Do we see many of them coming out of college?

 

[Extra Point]

Tim Tebow being denied a chance to run one of these offenses, which he is tailor made for, is just another piece of conclusive evidence that they would love to make QB the new RB position in the NFL, full of their kind of "diversity."

I bumped a thread not long ago (can't remember which one) which was first posted after Tim Tebow's first or second year in college.

The OP said that the anti-whites have reserved the dual run pass role for QBs who are black.

He predicted that the anti-whites would never allow Tebow to succeed in the NFL because he was white. The OP was right. I was impressed by this prediction.

 

[dwid]

the success of black quarterbacks is the read option. Last year d coordinators didn't know how to defend it, other than to bring a safety down, sometimes both to contain the running game.

You see its a numbers game. With a drop back qb on running plays its 11 vs 10 favoring the defense, because the qb doesn't block or anything, now teams have to worry about biting on the play action fake which is why I don't think it will die out any time soon.

With the read option its 10 vs 11 favoring the offense. The defense leaves a defender unblocked, so he is basically out of the play, the qb and rb are both a threat to running the ball, there is the mesh period, both the qb and rb have the ball for a nanosecond where the unblocked defender is read on whether he is going to go after the rb or the qb, and the qb decides what to do in this split second.

Then you have play action off of that, and wide receivers have like 5 to 10 yards of separation, its easy for them to complete passes. Despite this, Rg3 had the least amount of passes over 15 yards which is pathetic. You don't set up the run to set up the short pass. Ive never seen him thread the needle like a real qb should do.

Locker, Ponder, Tannehill, all guys that RAN the read option in college and could run it now, aren't running it, and would have put up better numbers if they did run it last year. Locker with Johnson in the read option would be unstoppable.

Cam Newton does take more shots down the field, look at his td to int ratio. is it really that impressive? with 56 or 57 percent completion ratio. Josh Freeman, doesn't run the option, he has stunk and regressed, which is what all of these black quarterbacks will do once defenses can defend it better. Oh yeah, and Michael Vick, no option, he sucked. A WHITE qb won the Superbowl last year. The Ravens stopped Kaepernick.

Kirk Cousins had a 101.6 passer rating, without the read option.

Can it be stopped? eventually. Monte Kiffin was the first to stop it I believe, the original version. Contained the read option at Tenn vs UF with Tebow. The only problem was Tebow could just run typical running plays out of shotgun like a halfback, and they won the game. Its called the scrape exchange, but teams like Oregon came up with new wrinkles to get around this. Its a cat and mouse game. Eventually the cat gets the mouse.

Plus, you want your franchise qbs to be there for over 10 years. The average rb career is 3.5 years. Even the good ones tend to decline around 30. So even if this is succssful, they will have to learn to run a more traditional offense.

so there is no conspiracy to make black quarterbacks "great", defensive backs can hardly cover as it is, give them something new and leave them one on one with no over the top help with an all black dline confused and they are screwed. Still with all of this help they dink and dunk.

Despite what people say about Tebow, for the time he was used as a qb, he had the most throws over 20 yards, and the completion percentage is low for those, and the most passing situations for 3rd and long, another thing that will lower completion percentage, so now we are told he can't throw. Give him an offense like rg3 and let him dink and dunk and he succeeds.

White qbs do dink and dunk, but they thread the needle and throw down field quite a bit. Theres only like 3 top targeted receivers that get close to half of their yards after the catch, thats Wes Welker, Percy Harvin and Randall Cobb, so qbs are throwing deep.

so if you think Rg3 throwing screen to the left, screen to the right, middle screen with read option runs in between and then running play action off of the read option for a 14 yard completion to Garcon who takes it for a total of 88 yards is impressive, continue to think that. Usually its a play action pass to the tight end for a 10 yard gain or something, but every now and then you get a highlight play, and then its shown over and over and over and over and over and over and over and you believe this is what this guy does routinely.

as far as White qbs coming out, we have guys like AJ McCaron and Aaron Murray who can star in this league. Then we have guys that went into back up situations who will be ready in a few years. Mike Glennon etc. Let those guys sit a year or two. Its what qbs used to do and they can only benefit from it. Then when this read option fad dies out we have experience White qbs to fill the void.

and if you just take a moment to look at college football, who is winning championships? White quarterbacks, despite the read option being bigger than ever in college last year, AJ McCarron won, although a good deal of White guys doing great running the spread option. I think one black in the past however many years, which was Cam Newton, who had a hell of a o coordinator. The rest of the guys are just putting up numbers that look good on paper.

 

[Leonardfan]

Great post DWID.

I just want to add David Fales of SJSU to the list of QBs to watch as well as Jeff Matthews from Cornell.

 

[Wes Woodhead]

every now and then you get a highlight play, and then its shown over and over and over and over and over and over and over and you believe this is what this guy does routinely.

This is the main point IMO. The highlights are what the DWFs remember most. I was talking to my neighbors just the other day about football starting back up. These kids dont even know who Joe Flacco is. They know Griffen, Scam, Vick, Krapernick, Freeman, and Wilson. The only white QBs they even know are Brady, and Manning. Well, they know Tebow, but they just repeat the media party line about him.

The puppet masters have conspired together very well to create the myth of the magical negro QB.

 

[bigunreal]

dwid,

I'm hardly "impressed" by anything professional sports has to offer these days, least of all the alleged brilliance of affirmative action black quarterbacks. My point was that, statistically speaking, this new crop of black quarterbacks takes that argument away- their stats, for whatever reason (and they are certainly misleading) are much better than the kind of stats Akili Smith, JaMarcus Russell, Sean King and Tavaris Jackson were producing.

I agree with you, of course, about Locker, Ponder, Tannehill, Tebow and other white QBs being natural for the "read option" offense. The fact their coaches aren't realizing this shows that, once again, they aren't interested in winning games, much as they wouldn't keep drafting black defensive players in the first round, year after year, who are almost always busts, to one degree or another, if they wanted to win. With the "read" offense being all the rage in the league, and coaches supposedly being "copycats," then of course you'd want Locker, Tebow and other mobile white QBs to run it. They don't. Why?

The NFL is as controlled a product as any other "reality" show is, although its brand of "diversity" calls for almost everyone to be a member of that one magical race. I predicted that the NFL would do something to keep Tebow from playing, when he was a freshman in college. I predicted last year, that they would do something to stop Manziel from playing. They've already succeeded with Tebow, and they aren't going to stop the campaign against Manziel until they succeed there. Expect more exciting "revelations" about autograph signings. Maybe we'll hear more incomprehensible remarks from his idiotic father, who appears to be a willing participant in the witch hunt.

I would be perfectly willing to admit that these mobile black QBs were as good as the jock sniffers say they are, if we'd start seeing a lot more whites permitted to play other positions, especially RB and WR, and at least some white QBs allowed to run that magical "read option" themselves. Right now, however you slice it, it's very hard to look at the NFL and feel optimistic.

 

[Soccer&track]

This is the main point IMO. The highlights are what the DWFs remember most. I was talking to my neighbors just the other day about football starting back up. These kids dont even know who Joe Flacco is. They know Griffen, Scam, Vick, Krapernick, Freeman, and Wilson. The only white QBs they even know are Brady, and Manning. Well, they know Tebow, but they just repeat the media party line about him.

The puppet masters have conspired together very well to create the myth of the magical negro QB.

Most of you guys on here certainly have more knowledge about how offenses and defenses work than I do. But to me it seems like something new and shiny comes around (the magical untouchable black quarterback) once in a while. And while defenses weren't able to do too well against it last year, I believe this will change! I am willing to bet all those defensive coaches are staying up late studying every game and play these paper weight black quarterbacks had last year and will have more answers this year. Midget Russell Wilson for example, is not nearly as fast as people think, and I predict he's gonna try his little backfield prance this year and get blasted(which I'd love to see). And even if these nauseating black quarterbacks have another year or so of success, defenses will catch up eventually. The only quarterback that wins every time is a Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck type, because they realize that its not a one man show and they have the brain power required to general an offense and make decisions at the line. It seems like black quarterbacks just drop back, if no ones available down field they run left or right and do a little 5 yard dump off. Whereas Peyton Manning will change a play so he doesn't need to do that. He lets his receivers and backs do their work! These little scramble plays will not work forever! Just my very novice 2cents. PS - I really hope Seattle goes 0-16. It's terrible living up here!

 

[wile]

Gotta go with Track on this one. I remember the magic days of early Dog Killer who was going to revolutionize the game and all that trash, slightly above average mediocrity on a good day. And as the ironic as it sounds Shannon Sharpe called out Kapernick last year as a one read guy. As I have said before, sports is more social engineering than sport. If a team listens to the hypesters it gets ruined IMO even if the hype surrounds white players such as Brady, Manning, and Rogers. For instance I am a Pack fan and I was overjoyed the day I heard Randy Moss got a HUGE contract, then I knew it became a one man team in an 11 player game. These black quarterback teams will fail as well along the same lines since the hype will give these black quarterbacks outsized contracts/egos/attention and the team will suffer.

 

[Don Wassall]

I just watched about 5 minutes of the unwatchable Lions-Jets game. After the first play, a black Lions linebacker, named, ironically, Whitehead, pushed a White Jets o-lineman in the back for no reason. The lineman to his credit instantly turned around and gave Whitehead a hard return push. After this short burst of "extracurricular activity," the play by play guy says, "Whitehead is chisled." The color man in the booth (both White) then coos, "Yeah, he's really built." Maybe after the game they watched Mandingo together.

This may be the first season I watch all the games with the sound off. It's gotten to the point I can't stand to watch anything from the corporate media, even as an aware observer. It's like watching a cartoon, a colossally dumbed down, anti-White, "gay," communistic cartoon without end or relief.