NFL News, Rumors and Musings

[Don Wassall]

Gastineau had a short run where he was as good a pass rusher as the NFL has ever seen. He had 20 sacks in '81, just 6 in the strike shortened '82 season, then led the league in back to back years in '83 and '84 with 19 and the then league record 22. That's when the Jets had the All-World Sack Exchange with three of the four d-linemen being of the overachieving variety, Joe Klecko and Marty Lyons along with Gastineau.

Gastineau's over the top celebratory "sack dances" made him very unpopular with DWFs and other NFL players. During the 1987 strike, Gastineau was one of many NFL players who crossed the picket line instead of striking, which caused the strike to eventually collapse. I remember seeing footage of striking players rocking a bus containing non-striking players including Gastineau and they went out of their way to find where Gastineau was sitting to spit at him. The spitters were black but my memory could be foggy on that particular detail.

Favre gave the record to Strahan. I imagine some posters here would react much like Gastineau did if they met Brett given some of the posts on CF about it.

 

[wile]

"Gave" is nearly an understatement.

 

[white is right]

Favre was an open MAGA supporter before the dam gave way and it became acceptable to be an "out" Trump supporter this year. Saw him a few times on Jesse Watters' show. He speaks deliberately like a lot of Southerners do but he's always had a sharp mind. Gastineau on the other hand, that's tough to watch.

Gastineau is recovering from cancer and probably has CTE as he played pro football for over a decade in the NFL and for short bit in the CFL and then had his celebrity boxing type career before the term existed.

I recall him getting laid out by a journeyman boxer who later shot and killed his promoter over a fixed fight where the boxer alleged he was poisoned to lose against Gastineau.

As for the incident it's possible Farve intended to roll out and then saw the Strahan brick wall and decided to slide to avoid getting blown up. Otherwise it should have been unratified as it looked like the equivalent of a fixed fight.

 

[aalin]

As for the incident it's possible Farve intended to roll out and then saw the Strahan brick wall and decided to slide to avoid getting blown up. Otherwise it should have been unratified as it looked like the equivalent of a fixed fight.

A comment from Favre's FB post about the incident

only one in on it was Favre. It was a called run play to the left but he kept the ball and rolled right knowing Strahan would be left unblocked because of the play call. I remember the oline being pissed about it because they stonewalled Strahan all game.

So yes, Favre 100% stole the record from Gastineau and gave it to the magic afflete. And Gastineau is 100% right to feel robbed. Should've decked Favre right there.

 

[icsept]

Just like the ‘72 Dolphins pop champagne when the last undefeated team loses; these records mean a lot to the old guys. But, he shouldn’t be that ate up about it. It’s not healthy.

 

[wile]

All the records suck, I started watching the NFL when it was 14 games.

 

[Rocky B]

One of my favorite Brett Favre moments was at the ESPN awards show when Bruce Jenner won person of the year. You could see Brett rolling his eyes, as if to say. WTF....??? The media sure did scorn him.

 

[Don Wassall]

After Week 17's games, here is the current draft order for 2025. Notice what the listed teams have in common. All CFers know the answer so this is directed at lurkers. If you can't figure it out check out the thread on team demographics for 2024 as well as the weekly threads during the season. Every NFL team is powered by Caste System/DEI principles to varying degrees, but the pattern linking most of the blackest teams and poor performance is undeniable and is similar every year.

1. Patriots
2. Titans
3. Giants
4. Browns
5. Jaguars
6. Jets
7. Panthers
9. Bears

 

[Don Wassall]

Another sign that the era of woke totalitarianism is on the retreat:

NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero reports “multiple teams” have been doing extensive homework on former Raiders coach Jon Gruden and that he could get interviewed for head coaching vacancies. Got us feeling nicey. Gruden worked to help install the Saints offense in 2023 and Pelissero notes that Gruden could have finagled his way into the Saints OC position if he wanted it. The Saints connections already existing make that feel like an obvious interview spot — that’s just our speculation — but perhaps he still has other fans in the league.

 

[Leonardfan]

https://nfltraderumors.co/lions-oc-ben-johnson-interested-in-jaguars-hc-job/

Johnson is the best OC in the league. I think this would be the best move for Trevor Lawrence.

 

[wile]

Reject Diversity - Vox Popoli

There is absolutely no benefit to giving into the demands for diversity. If you don’t give in, you’ll take the heat but you won’t suffer the negative consequences of destroying your organization. If you do give into them, you’ll first suffer the negative consequences of destroying your...

voxday.net

Is it true that ESPN is having a DEI meltdown over Black Monday/Tuesday? Like was said on the Raiders thread no one really cares anymore and to get people to care about the Protected Classes and their privileges takes billions if not a trillion or two of the $ in media psyop.

As Al Davis told Art Shell that he was the first black head coach to be hired and most likely would be the first black head coach fired.

 

[Don Wassall]

The NFL's TV ratings fell 2.2% from last year. Breitbart goes over the top and calls this "shocking" but the most interesting fact in the article is that the average NFL game this season drew 17.5 million viewers. That unsurprisingly still dwarfs other sports, but is still roughly just a little more than 5% of the country, which means the vast majority of Americans aren't watching Caste Ball.

ESPN's football ratings fell 14%, which is significant and likely caused by that far-left propaganda network being rejected more and more by awakening Americans, much like a recent survey finds that a quarter of the country says they refuse to watch any movies produced by the groomer perverts at Disney.

NFL Experienced Shocking Ratings Fall During 2024 Season

Viewer data is beginning to show that the NFL lost a step in its TV ratings for the 2024 regular season over its numbers from 2023.

www.breitbart.com

 

[jimmyjerapolo]

The NFL's TV ratings fell 2.2% from last year. Breitbart goes over the top and calls this "shocking" but the most interesting fact in the article is that the average NFL game this season drew 17.5 million viewers. That unsurprisingly still dwarfs other sports, but is still roughly just a little more than 5% of the country, which means the vast majority of Americans aren't watching Caste Ball.

ESPN's football ratings fell 14%, which is significant and likely caused by that far-left propaganda network being rejected more and more by awakening Americans, much like a recent survey finds that a quarter of the country says they refuse to watch any movies produced by the groomer perverts at Disney.

NFL Experienced Shocking Ratings Fall During 2024 Season

Viewer data is beginning to show that the NFL lost a step in its TV ratings for the 2024 regular season over its numbers from 2023.

www.breitbart.com

The average game might have 17.5 million viewers but how many people catch 1 game a week, or a few games a month? How many people pirate games or just catch the highlights? These numbers still dwarf not only other sports but every other entertainment product outside of international soccer.

The number 1 show on Netflix (a global platform) had 21 million viewers this week, which is cumulative. Twitch, the Amazon-owned streaming platform, averages 2-3 million global viewers at any given time. The fact that the NFL can pull 17.5 million concurrent live viewers on for an average broadcast to a domestic audience, despite being a cable/broadcast TV product, is remarkably impressive. I'm not trying to defend the league here but it's the only pillar of the legacy media/entertainment industry that has shown no real signs of weakness. 2.2% decline can probably be explained by the loss of the Taylor Swift viewers as much as anything else.

 

[Don Wassall]

The average game might have 17.5 million viewers but how many people catch 1 game a week, or a few games a month? How many people pirate games or just catch the highlights? These numbers still dwarf not only other sports but every other entertainment product outside of international soccer.

The number 1 show on Netflix (a global platform) had 21 million viewers this week, which is cumulative. Twitch, the Amazon-owned streaming platform, averages 2-3 million global viewers at any given time. The fact that the NFL can pull 17.5 million concurrent live viewers on for an average broadcast to a domestic audience, despite being a cable/broadcast TV product, is remarkably impressive. I'm not trying to defend the league here but it's the only pillar of the legacy media/entertainment industry that has shown no real signs of weakness. 2.2% decline can probably be explained by the loss of the Taylor Swift viewers as much as anything else.

That's basically the same point I was making -- the NFL is still king and a 2.2% drop isn't that big a deal -- but also that if the average televised game is watched by 17.5 million viewers, that also means 318 million Americans aren't watching the average game, and that's a good thing. Football, particularly the NFL, is still America's secular religion, but it's far from being all-pervasive or omnipotent.

Looking into it a little further, TV ratings since 2008 have fluctuated some, taking a dive during the "Colin Kapernick/kneeling era" but have since bounced back. The NFL is a very stable and profitable entity, but without gambling and fantasy football those ratings wouldn't be nearly as high as so many games are boring, poorly played affairs. https://www.statista.com/statistics/289979/nfl-number-of-tv-viewers-usa/

 

[Snow Plow]

AP All Pro​

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First team​

Fullback — Patrick Ricard, Baltimore

Tight End — Brock Bowers, Las Vegas

Left Guard — Joe Thuney, Kansas City

Center — Creed Humphrey, Kansas City

Right Guard — Quinn Meinerz, Denver

Edge Rusher — Trey Hendrickson, Cincinnati

Second Team​

Quarterback — Josh Allen, Buffalo

Fullback — Kyle Juszczyk, San Francisco

Tight End — George Kittle, San Francisco

Left Guard — Quenton Nelson, Indianapolis

Center — Frank Ragnow, Detroit

Right Guard — Chris Lindstrom, Atlanta

Right Tackle — Lane Johnson, Philadelphia

Edge Rusher — T.J. Watt, Pittsburgh;

Edge Rusher — Andrew Van Ginkel, Minnesota

Interior Linemen — Zach Allen, Denver

 

[jphoss]

AP All Pro​

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First team​

Fullback — Patrick Ricard, Baltimore

Tight End — Brock Bowers, Las Vegas

Left Guard — Joe Thuney, Kansas City

Center — Creed Humphrey, Kansas City

Right Guard — Quinn Meinerz, Denver

Edge Rusher — Trey Hendrickson, Cincinnati

Second Team​

Quarterback — Josh Allen, Buffalo

Fullback — Kyle Juszczyk, San Francisco

Tight End — George Kittle, San Francisco

Left Guard — Quenton Nelson, Indianapolis

Center — Frank Ragnow, Detroit

Right Guard — Chris Lindstrom, Atlanta

Right Tackle — Lane Johnson, Philadelphia

Edge Rusher — T.J. Watt, Pittsburgh;

Edge Rusher — Andrew Van Ginkel, Minnesota

Interior Linemen — Zach Allen, Denver

sewell over lane johnson is a joke

 

[Freethinker]

AP All Pro​

​

First team​

Fullback — Patrick Ricard, Baltimore

Tight End — Brock Bowers, Las Vegas

Left Guard — Joe Thuney, Kansas City

Center — Creed Humphrey, Kansas City

Right Guard — Quinn Meinerz, Denver

Edge Rusher — Trey Hendrickson, Cincinnati

Second Team​

Quarterback — Josh Allen, Buffalo

Fullback — Kyle Juszczyk, San Francisco

Tight End — George Kittle, San Francisco

Left Guard — Quenton Nelson, Indianapolis

Center — Frank Ragnow, Detroit

Right Guard — Chris Lindstrom, Atlanta

Right Tackle — Lane Johnson, Philadelphia

Edge Rusher — T.J. Watt, Pittsburgh;

Edge Rusher — Andrew Van Ginkel, Minnesota

Interior Linemen — Zach Allen, Denver

So it goes without saying that Whites are discriminated against at all positions, but the one that is the most egregious (other than QB) is offensive line. So this years best evidence to support this position is that 7 out of 10 of the All-Pros are White. Yet, every draft we are not seeing 70% of our guys drafted at OL. Looking back on the last draft, only 2 of 9 OL drafted in round 1 are White. A total inversion! The prevailing dogma is that long armed sumos, and to a slightly lesser degree, tubby Polys have more talent or raw ability than Whites. This is an obvious lie but has gone unchallenged for years, even decades now.

 

[Don Wassall]

I recall one year when all four of the defensive ends selected to the first and second All Pro teams were White -- believe it was Jared Allen, Patrick Kerney, Aaron Schobel and Kyle Vanden Bosch. Of course it didn't cause a stir anywhere but here, and just as with all the other DE "outliers" such as J. J. Watt and now his brother, the Bosa brothers, etc., nothing changed as far as recruiting and drafting White DEs into the big show. It was just a temporary embarrassing blip, quickly confined to the memory hole. . .

 

[jimmyjerapolo]

So it goes without saying that Whites are discriminated against at all positions, but the one that is the most egregious (other than QB) is offensive line. So this years best evidence to support this position is that 7 out of 10 of the All-Pros are White. Yet, every draft we are not seeing 70% of our guys drafted at OL. Looking back on the last draft, only 2 of 9 OL drafted in round 1 are White. A total inversion! The prevailing dogma is that long armed sumos, and to a slightly lesser degree, tubby Polys have more talent or raw ability than Whites. This is an obvious lie but has gone unchallenged for years, even decades now.

On top of individual awards, take a look at the top units. This outlet lists:

1. Denver - 5/5 white
2. Baltimore - 4/5 white (Mekari is half Lebanese, but I count it)
3. Tampa Bay - 4/5 white
4. Buffalo - 3/5 white - the black RG is among the lowest graded starters at the position
5. Kansas City - 3/5 white - Thuney remains the starting LT on the depth chart, supplanting the sumo who struggled all year. Also worth noting the other sumo, Taylor, is among the worst RTs in the league. Fair to say this unit succeeds in spite of him.
6. Detroit - 4/5 white - No sumos, 2 deep at LT

At the bottom, we have (starting from the worst):

1. New England - 1/5 white
2. Houston - 1/5 white
3. Seattle - 0 whites
4. Cincinatti - 3/5 white
5. Tennesse - 3/5 white - Skoronski is mentioned as a "bright spot" of this dual-sumo line. Remember he was a tackle in college but those arms are just too short.
6. New York Giants - 2/5 white
7. Miami - 0 whites

Although lower on this list, Philly (3/5) and Washington (4/5) are also frequently mentioned as top units. Green Bay is the only notable exception, grading out above league average despite only having 1 white lineman.

 

[Freethinker]

On top of individual awards, take a look at the top units. This outlet lists:

1. Denver - 5/5 white
2. Baltimore - 4/5 white (Mekari is half Lebanese, but I count it)
3. Tampa Bay - 4/5 white
4. Buffalo - 3/5 white - the black RG is among the lowest graded starters at the position
5. Kansas City - 3/5 white - Thuney remains the starting LT on the depth chart, supplanting the sumo who struggled all year. Also worth noting the other sumo, Taylor, is among the worst RTs in the league. Fair to say this unit succeeds in spite of him.
6. Detroit - 4/5 white - No sumos, 2 deep at LT

At the bottom, we have (starting from the worst):

1. New England - 1/5 white
2. Houston - 1/5 white
3. Seattle - 0 whites
4. Cincinatti - 3/5 white
5. Tennesse - 3/5 white - Skoronski is mentioned as a "bright spot" of this dual-sumo line. Remember he was a tackle in college but those arms are just too short.
6. New York Giants - 2/5 white
7. Miami - 0 whites

Although lower on this list, Philly (3/5) and Washington (4/5) are also frequently mentioned as top units. Green Bay is the only notable exception, grading out above league average despite only having 1 white lineman.

Great research! Really shows clearly what the path to success is. Honestly a White, or super majority White, offensive line might be the most consistently accurate predictor of success in the “modern NFL”. Of course lots of Whites at other positions helps too but it can elevate an otherwise coal black team like Baltimore into a consistent winner.

 

[wile]

Why the NFL Fixes Games - Vox Popoli

I find it genuinely amusing that the NFL expects us to believe that the Aaron Glenn-coached defense that supposedly played “lights out” and completely dominated the 14-2 Vikings, who supposedly didn’t show up at all for their biggest game of the year, just happened to be blown off their home...

voxday.net

He has his opinions, but if you think it remotely possible than lay some money on the Rams for the SB win. I myself do not sports bet the last time I did about two decades ago I had to buy a cheap generic cream filled snack out of a vending machine for my boss and I'm still chapped that the favored Packers lost to TB. How anyone can sports bet is beyond me though I finally figured out why I had to duct tape my Keds shoes in my youth as my father always had money on the game (back when you dealt with guys named "No Neck Tony") So yeah don't cry to me when you lose your cash.

 

[wile]

On top of individual awards, take a look at the top units. This outlet lists:

1. Denver - 5/5 white
2. Baltimore - 4/5 white (Mekari is half Lebanese, but I count it)
3. Tampa Bay - 4/5 white
4. Buffalo - 3/5 white - the black RG is among the lowest graded starters at the position
5. Kansas City - 3/5 white - Thuney remains the starting LT on the depth chart, supplanting the sumo who struggled all year. Also worth noting the other sumo, Taylor, is among the worst RTs in the league. Fair to say this unit succeeds in spite of him.
6. Detroit - 4/5 white - No sumos, 2 deep at LT

At the bottom, we have (starting from the worst):

1. New England - 1/5 white
2. Houston - 1/5 white
3. Seattle - 0 whites
4. Cincinatti - 3/5 white
5. Tennesse - 3/5 white - Skoronski is mentioned as a "bright spot" of this dual-sumo line. Remember he was a tackle in college but those arms are just too short.
6. New York Giants - 2/5 white
7. Miami - 0 whites

Although lower on this list, Philly (3/5) and Washington (4/5) are also frequently mentioned as top units. Green Bay is the only notable exception, grading out above league average despite only having 1 white lineman.

Being my normal off tangent a bit, you mention a half Leb named Mekari. I mentioned one day to a work buddy the need to go buy some pet supplies and he said a former classmate managed a local one for her dad. Anyway dad was a Lebanese Christian "refugee" or some such that married a woman in America. The coworker mentioned that she was the hottest chick in his rather large class, so I had to go see for myself. Yep, she was absolutely gorgeous with a body of doom, write bad checks and spend a year on the chain gang and still have a smile on your face level of hotness.

 

[Freethinker]

Why the NFL Fixes Games - Vox Popoli

I find it genuinely amusing that the NFL expects us to believe that the Aaron Glenn-coached defense that supposedly played “lights out” and completely dominated the 14-2 Vikings, who supposedly didn’t show up at all for their biggest game of the year, just happened to be blown off their home...

voxday.net

He has his opinions, but if you think it remotely possible than lay some money on the Rams for the SB win. I myself do not sports bet the last time I did about two decades ago I had to buy a cheap generic cream filled snack out of a vending machine for my boss and I'm still chapped that the favored Packers lost to TB. How anyone can sports bet is beyond me though I finally figured out why I had to duct tape my Keds shoes in my youth as my father always had money on the game (back when you dealt with guys named "No Neck Tony") So yeah don't cry to me when you lose your cash.

Interesting food for thought. Adds extra intrigue to the Rams v Eagles game later….

 

[Snow Plow]

Interesting food for thought. Adds extra intrigue to the Rams v Eagles game later….

Yes, plus the Rams would get a home game so they could really feature the wild fires and discuss all the things the NFL is doing to help.

It just seems like a tough task to have a warm weather team go into the snowy Philly weather and pull out a win.

 

[wile]

Yeah about that bit of theater of cold and new exciting QBs. It was 2002 the Packers never lose a game when temp is below blah blah blah plus its a playoff game and the "Ice Bowl" never forget that. So in comes the Atlanta dome team with a really exciting new style QB/dog trainer named Mike Vick. They rolled over the Packers and as Favre said his team was just tired. I don't have any conspiracy theory as to why the Packers were crushed by an underdog on the road team except maybe no one watched film of Vick for some stupid reason and he ran over them, and I knew it was over by the half. Things happen. Of course when a new exciting QB needed a showcase win over a HoF QB the Packers provided convincing defeats, Vick, Scam, Kapernick, and others I cannot remember, maybe Bridgewater though honestly not much excitement there.