NFL 2014 Week 13

[jaxvid]

Is it really true franchise QB's have no input on offensive players? That seems odd. What boss doesn't get expect their senior employees to provide some feedback on the people they are going to interact with? I find it hard to believe that a Brady or Manning is not solicited for their opinions on the guys they throw to a hundred times a season. I'm not saying they have yea or nay status on players but on the other hand how can super competitive people not want to have input on important decisions?

I think their input will vary from situation to situation, Denver is clearly different then Indianapolis but still, is a GM not going to care if a QB doesn't have chemistry (or dislikes) a receiver? I imagine in many cases it's very important. In almost every employment situation the viewpoint of other employees holds a lot of weight. I don't see why it wouldn't in football.

Franchise QB's are not GM's but I think they can have some influence in player decisions.

 

[The Spaniard]

I'm expecting Decker to be used as a scapegoat for the Jets offensive incompetence.

 

[woody39]

I dont think they have much of an influence even Brady could not keep Welker in New England despite his team friendly contract extension to free up money and his well known friendship and chemistry was ignored. You would think they would and indeed SHOULD HAVE an influence but i dont think they have much if any at all sadly.

 

[northwinds]

The Jets' Salas with a beautiful 25 yard end around for a TD. Of course the announcer ( Gruden?) immediately said "nobody in the State of Florida would have thought that Greg Salas could score on an end around".........followed by praise for some black lineman who made a block downfield......not a word of praise for Salas

 

[Wes Woodhead]

The end zone celebration is just a joke i don't think that should be held against him too much.

Woody I say that because he and Welker, and Thomas practiced it during the week. Then when Manning got in front of the media he was like " aww shucks I cant believe those guys did that. What a special memory thats gonna always be for me. Im gonna kill those guys." He was trying to sell it as real, and spontaneous. Its a small thing but it does PROVE a certain level of falseness. The staged celebration is fine. At worst its corney. However to talk to the media as if you had no idea it was gonna happen, after working on it in practice, is very phoney.

We are an extreme bunch here castefootball (the best website on the net). In some cases we are extremely critical of our guys for tiny reasons, and at some times we refuse to criticize them no matter how they play on the field, or how despicable their character is off field. notice I say WE not yall or you. I know Im guilty too.

 

[The Spaniard]

Both Brain Hartline and Greg Salas are out for the rest of the game. Each receiver got hurt after the only plays' that they touched the ball.

 

[BeyondFedUp]

The 5 St. Louis Rams "protest gesturing" players...

[h=1]Reading this is very telling of the afflete mindset and blows away the "poverty/class" argument thrown up now by the liberal media. It's clearly a show of racial solidarity and support of criminal activities. The next to last paragraph is ironic and hilarious.

NFL will not discipline Rams for pregame gesture[/h]

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• By Dan Hanzus
• Around the NFL Writer
• Published: Dec. 1, 2014 at 04:21 p.m.
• Updated: Dec. 1, 2014 at 06:01 p.m.

The NFL will not discipline the St. Louis Rams players who held up their hands as a gesture of solidarity with protesters in Ferguson, Missouri, prior to Sunday's win over the Oakland Raiders.
"We respect and understand the concerns of all individuals who have expressed views on this tragic situation," NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said in a statement on Monday.
Stedman Bailey, Tavon Austin, Jared Cook, Chris Givens and Kenny Britt emerged from the tunnel during pregame introductions Sunday using the "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" pose adopted by protesters following the August shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown by police officer Darren Wilson. The St. Louis County prosecutor's office announced last week that it will not indict Wilson for the fatal confrontation, a decision that led to unrest in Ferguson and protests across the nation.
The St. Louis Police Officers Association released a statement that it was "profoundly disappointed" by the display while "calling for the players involved to be disciplined and for the Rams and the NFL to deliver a very public apology."
After Sunday's 52-0 win over the Raiders, Cook explained the thought process behind the pregame gesture.
"We kind of came collectively together and decided we wanted to do something," Cook said via ESPN.com. "We haven't been able to go down to Ferguson to do anything because we have been busy. Secondly, it's kind of dangerous down there and none of us want to get caught up in anything.
"So we wanted to come out and show our respect to the protests and the people who have been doing a heck of a job around the world."

 

[TwentyTwo]

Last night on the NBC Post Game show Tony Dungy reminded us that "Jordy Nelson is faster than people think"....NO HE IS NOT! We have been knowing how fast he is! Do the DWF's still need reminding I guess??

*PROOF*
This season he has 5 TD catches 59+ yds (80, 73, 66, 64 & 59) + the 45 yarder yesterday

This was ALL BEFORE this 2014 season even started...
•Ranks No. 6 in the league with 30 TD catches since 2011 and ranks No. 5 in the NFL (min. 125 receptions) over that span with a 16.4-yard receiving average.

•Is tied for No. 2 among active NFL players with three career TD catches of 80-plus yards.

•Led the league with 19 receptions of 25-plus yards in 2013,

•Registered three TD catches of 80-plus yards from Week 16 of 2010 through Week 6 of 2011, becoming the first NFL player since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger to post three 80-yard TD grabs over an eight-game span in the regular season.

 

[icsept]

Hartline and Decker both had 1000+ receiving yards each of the past two seasons. Both are still in their prime, but Hartline has been relegated to 3rd or 4th option, and Decker has no quarterback. Neither will come near 1000 yards this season. I don't know Hartline's contract status, but I'd like to see him move to a white friendly team with a good quarterback. At least Decker's the no. 1 guy on the Jets, if they ever get a quarterback.

 

[The Spaniard]

1st round pick Dion Jordan blocked a punt, therefore he's not a bust.

 

[Wes Woodhead]

Last night on the NBC Post Game show Tony Dungy reminded us that "Jordy Nelson is faster than people think"....NO HE IS NOT!

Former journeyman WR Nate Burleson is fast becoming my favorite talking head on the NFL channel, or anywhere else. The other day he went on a passionate rant about how mad he gets when people say Nelson is "sneaky fast", or "faster than he looks".

He was getting a little ghetto, but he was right. He said Jordy was a top 5 WR and hes not sneaky fast hes simply FAST! Then he asked his comrades WHY they said that about Nelson, and they both looked confused. He repeated it like 4 times. "WHY do people label Jordy Nelson as "sneaky" fast? WHAT does that even mean? The guy is blazing fast, and WHY dont people just say that?

It was priceless to see those other guys faces! It was ALMOST as if they were thinking.

 

[icsept]

Former journeyman WR Nate Burleson is fast becoming my favorite talking head on the NFL channel, or anywhere else. The other day he went on a passionate rant about how mad he gets when people say Nelson is "sneaky fast", or "faster than he looks".

He was getting a little ghetto, but he was right. He said Jordy was a top 5 WR and hes not sneaky fast hes simply FAST! Then he asked his comrades WHY they said that about Nelson, and they both looked confused. He repeated it like 4 times. "WHY do people label Jordy Nelson as "sneaky" fast? WHAT does that even mean? The guy is blazing fast, and WHY dont people just say that?

It was priceless to see those other guys faces! It was ALMOST as if they were thinking.

Like Geno Smith, he's "sneaky smart"...he's a lot smarter than he looks.

 

[Extra Point]

The anti-whites are great wordsmiths. They are adept at demeaning white people with words.

Being sneaky has a negative connotation. By pairing a negative word with the word fast they manage to denigrate whites who are fast.

It doesn't matter if phrases such as "sneaky fast" make no sense. The average DWF never questions such things.

 

[dwid]

Former journeyman WR Nate Burleson is fast becoming my favorite talking head on the NFL channel, or anywhere else. The other day he went on a passionate rant about how mad he gets when people say Nelson is "sneaky fast", or "faster than he looks".

He was getting a little ghetto, but he was right. He said Jordy was a top 5 WR and hes not sneaky fast hes simply FAST! Then he asked his comrades WHY they said that about Nelson, and they both looked confused. He repeated it like 4 times. "WHY do people label Jordy Nelson as "sneaky" fast? WHAT does that even mean? The guy is blazing fast, and WHY dont people just say that?

It was priceless to see those other guys faces! It was ALMOST as if they were thinking.

yeah he seemed okay when back in the day he wanted to be known as the black Welker, not too many blacks i know trying to be like a White guy.

 

[icsept]

Geno Smith, 65 yards passing. Smh

 

[BeyondFedUp]

Geno Smith, 65 yards passing. Smh

Yes, I was just about to post that.
7/13 - 65 yds, 1 int, 0 td.

 

[Westside]

Smiff being Smiff, 7/13 65 yards. The revolution continues unabated. LOL and the Jets lost. Great.

 

[dwid]

Is it really true franchise QB's have no input on offensive players? That seems odd. What boss doesn't get expect their senior employees to provide some feedback on the people they are going to interact with? I find it hard to believe that a Brady or Manning is not solicited for their opinions on the guys they throw to a hundred times a season. I'm not saying they have yea or nay status on players but on the other hand how can super competitive people not want to have input on important decisions?

I think their input will vary from situation to situation, Denver is clearly different then Indianapolis but still, is a GM not going to care if a QB doesn't have chemistry (or dislikes) a receiver? I imagine in many cases it's very important. In almost every employment situation the viewpoint of other employees holds a lot of weight. I don't see why it wouldn't in football.

Franchise QB's are not GM's but I think they can have some influence in player decisions.

yeah they have input, but Brady restructured his deal to keep Welker and they let him go anyway

here is one article

"Though Brady has said publicly that he has no say over Patriots personnel decisions and that Welker leaving was just part of the business, Welker said Brady was bothered that New England decided to move on, especially after the quarterback had restructured his contract to free up money under the salary cap.“You know, after it happened, obviously we talked and everything like that,” Welker said. “He was upset about it, and part of me was a little upset about it, too. But things happen for a reason, and I’m excited about the opportunities here and the type of team we have and things that we can do."

makes me feel bad for the both of them, so I think Eli probably had some say in getting the guy who went to same high school, and Peyton had some say in getting Stokley who was from Louisiana and at the passing academy with him but it really comes down to the higher ups if they really dont want a guy they don't want him so yeah just influence, and probably not as much as we'd like to think.

 

[Westside]

Duhmarcus Russell is going to have a buddy getting their "purple drank" on this summer.

 

[Extra Point]

Geno Smith passed for 65 yards and had a 35.7 quarterback rating tonight. You can probably find players off the street that can do better than that.

The Jets should sign a QB off someone's practice squad but they probably won't.

 

[white is right]

Like Geno Smith, he's "sneaky smart"...he's a lot smarter than he looks.

ROFLMAO by the way the last pass by Smith while it was Black on Black violence it was clearly screening or pass interference the defender never looked back at the ball. Not that it matters much.

Ps Geno Smith is officially a 1970's qb, without a loaded backfield like what Miami had or Pittsburgh. 7 for 13 is the playbook that a high school qb or a Nebraska wishbone qb had......:scared:

 

[Wes Woodhead]

yeah he seemed okay when back in the day he wanted to be known as the black Welker, not too many blacks i know trying to be like a White guy.

I hadnt heard that dwid. Yeah thats EXTREMELY rare! Buleson seems to have zero anti White complex.

 

[Tannehill17]

Ryan Tannehill's 4/5 chocolate O-line did him no favors today, despite getting the win. Of course, the caste announcers Gruden and Tirico have to get in a little dig at Tannehill about how "horrible" he is with the long ball. (Geno Smiff predictably received no criticism despite his measly 65 yards passing) Never mind the fact that his receivers have no time to get open on deep passes because these sumos can't block to save their lives. That also answers the question to why Hartline's production has gone down. It isn't that he's not being targeted, its the very dark O-line not giving him any time to get open. This chocolate offensive line (and a past his prime Daryn Colledge) is still the same crappy unit from last year, only Tannehill has gotten better at masking their deficiencies. Of course, the Dolphins DWF's still place the blame on Tannehill. If Ryan Tannehill (as well as Brian Hartline) had the Patriots all-white O-line, they would be putting up mind boggling numbers.

 

[Upside]

What a show by Geno tonight!! It really sucks about Decker, but he made his bed by signing with that joke of an organization. Was really hoping to see he and Hartline have big games on national tv.

What happened to Jason Trusnik??? I thought he was starting for Miami..

 

[Tannehill17]

What a show by Geno tonight!! It really sucks about Decker, but he made his bed by signing with that joke of an organization. Was really hoping to see he and Hartline have big games on national tv.

What happened to Jason Trusnik??? I thought he was starting for Miami..

Koa Misi came back from injury and forced Trusnik back to his "rightful" place on the bench. They could always... you know.. have Trusnik starting instead of the overpaid free agent bust Phillip Wheeler, but then there would be too many pale-faces on the field, and we can't have that.... at least according to the DWF's